View Full Version : How ‘safe’ is the area you live in?
Type in your postcode and find out how many crimes were committed recently in your area (England, Wales and N. Ireland only): http://www.police.uk/
For our area in Wrexham, in August this year, it was 23. Seems pretty low, so no wonder it’s nice and quiet here :)
What about you guys?
Marco.
Oldpinkman
10-10-2014, 08:03
I don't need to type in the post code - I can just look over the fence. Mind, having previously lost a Range Rover, Land Rover Defender, Ifor Williams Horse Trailer, Set of Wilson Deep Red golf clubs, Stihl strimmer and chainsaw, and 1 tonne of dried dog food - all on separate thefts, the last involving bolt cutters on marine chain round a neighbouring farmers gate, then hand barrowing the food up our (long) drive, through a hole cut in the farmers fencing.
However, touch wood, we have had no incidents since 2 German Shepherds run free during the day ...:eyebrows:
Our neighbours like to get the boys in blue round on a regular but infrequent basis - they must like to chat :(
I live next door to The Man With No Name which might explain 719... YEEEEHAAAAAW!!! :lol:
Lol - nice one, Richard. I’d be curious to know what the actual figures are for your area though, so perhaps you could type in your PC and let us know? Just a bit of fun :)
Round here, quite often I’ve forgotten to lock the car, not used it for about 4 days, and it’s still there when I go out to get it the next time. We went on holiday once, and accidentally left the back door of the house unlocked. Everything was still there when we got back…
That said, we’re still careful (much more careful now than we used to be), but it’s nice having the peace of mind not having to ‘fret’ all the time about being attacked or robbed.
Marco.
I live next door to The Man With No Name which might explain 719... YEEEEHAAAAAW!!! :lol:
719. Bloody hell….. :eek:
The man with no name - who he? :scratch:
Marco.
mr sneff
10-10-2014, 08:26
A 17 for Rhayader.
33 - mostly sprout-rustling I'd imagine. :D
A 17 for Rhayader.
Hehehehe… Quality! :eyebrows:
:sheep:
I’d imagine that it's a different story round Cardiff/Swansea way, though…. :eek:
Marco.
33 - mostly sprout-rustling I'd imagine...
Yesh, and three of those would’ve been you getting caught stealing ladies knickers off of washing lines! :lol: :D
;)
Marco.
walpurgis
10-10-2014, 09:02
I'm not even going to bother entering this post code. I don't have time to read through the reams of crime figures.
Just been onto the phone with my other half and her son has been up all night after a robbery at his new house up in Liverpool.
He had just moved in with some mates to start second year at uni and they all went out for their first night together. Got back and the bastards had broken a window and smashed down six locked doors and knicked a pile of stuff including all their laptops with uni work on.
Very distressing start to new year at uni!
Jeez, James. Sorry to hear that :(
Were they insured?
Marco.
Zoidburg
10-10-2014, 09:32
328 for me. I live on the very outskirts of Liverpool. Jimbo I hope your sons situation improves mate, if its any help I was broken into at another address in Liverpool a few years ago and the police were actually pretty helpful and the case was solved (Nothing was recovered though unfortunately).
Spectral Morn
10-10-2014, 09:37
28 :)
Regards Neil
dantheman91
10-10-2014, 09:38
91 for me...........
West Howe mush!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
The Black Adder
10-10-2014, 09:40
22 here...
840! The area includes a town centre with plenty of booze related werkend night trouble. Some of the area is quite densly populated.
Yeah, you’re in a big catchment area there, Clive, so that figure doesn’t surprise me.
Interesting, though, how crime figures are so vanishingly low in rural and semi-rural areas, compared with urban ones… I’d have expected there to have been rather less ‘action’ there, so to speak, but not quite such a massive discrepancy in the crime figures.
An interesting one for me is a figure of 23, where I live on the outskirts of a fairly large town like Wrexham (which is now an official county borough of Wales), and 22, for Joe (for example), who lives in a tiny little village in Staffordshire… :hmm:
From Wiki:
At the time of the United Kingdom Census 2001, Wrexham centre had a population of 42,576, and the wider Wrexham Urban Area, as defined by the Office for National Statistics, had a population of 63,084, the seventh-largest in Wales. The county borough of Wrexham, which covers 50,500 hectares, has a population of over 130,000.
Originally a market town with surrounding small villages, Wrexham is now coalesced with a number of urban villages and forms North Wales' largest conurbation exceeding 60,000 residents including its north, western and south western suburban villages. The Office for National Statistics defines a Wrexham Urban Area which consists of Wrexham Town and some coalesced suburbs (Pop. 63,084 in 2001) making it the 134th largest urban area in the UK, and the 7th largest in Wales.
…and those figures would no doubt have increased considerably, in the last 13 years since that census was taken.
All the sheep-shagging round here must relieve any pent-up anger or frustration amongst the resident delinquents! :D
Marco.
Its pretty good here, with very little crime. You can leave the door open and keys in the car overnight lol
Is there a Scottish version for this link? I’d like to know what the figures were for where I used to live in the south of Glasgow and in East Renfrewshire...
Marco.
73 for me - most seem to be 'anti-social behaviour'. That'll just be stupid kids mouthing off, nothing to get worried about. Not bad for a ghetto. ;)
719. Bloody hell….. :eek:
The man with no name - who he? :scratch:
Marco.
Not a Spaghetti Western fan I'm guessing. Clint Eastward... A fistful Of Dollars, A Few Dollars More etc, etc... ;)
Not a Spaghetti Western fan I'm guessing. Clint Eastward... A fistful Of Dollars, A Few Dollars More etc, etc... ;)
Lol - I am actually, but (call me thick) I still don’t get what reference that has to whoever lives next door to you and the crime figures in your area… :confused:
Did Clint used to live in Northampton, or something? :D
Marco.
Where I used to live in Liverpool is at 360! And it's not a bad area of Liverpool, comparatively speaking. Lot rougher when I was there in the 'Eighties though.
Lol - I am actually, but (call me thick) I still don’t get what reference that has to whoever lives next door to you and the crime figures in your area… :confused:
Did Clint used to live in Northampton, or something? :D
Marco.
It woz a joke ya numpty - bar brawls, gunfights, horse rustling.... :lol:
www.sns.gov.uk/
Cheers, dude. That’s 150 for where I was in Glasgow, and 129 where I used to live just outside of Paisley (in Ralston), see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralston,_Renfrewshire
Still not too bad considering both were near very large and highly populated areas…. I guess I’ve never believed in being surrounded by riffraff! :eyebrows:
Marco.
It woz a joke ya numpty - bar brawls, gunfights, horse rustling.... :lol:
Lol… :D
Initially, a bit too cryptic though, me thinks.
Marco.
Lol… :D
Initially, a bit too cryptic though, me thinks.
Marco.
Cryptic is as cryptic does, or so they say. If you want cryptic try talking to the UFO community, I guarentee you'll be needing to spend a long weekend in Italy every other week just to clear your head... :lol:
Cheers, dude. That’s 150 for where I was in Glasgow, and 129 where I used to live just outside of Paisley (in Ralston). Still not too bad considering both were large and highly populated places…. I guess I’ve never believed in being surrounded by riffraff! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Think mine was 66, which seems a lot. Must be up the crescent dragging up avenues down
Oldpinkman
10-10-2014, 12:00
Lol - nice one, Richard. I’d be curious to know what the actual figures are for your area though, so perhaps you could type in your PC and let us know? Just a bit of fun :)
Round here, quite often I’ve forgotten to lock the car, not used it for about 4 days, and it’s still there when I go out to get it the next time. We went on holiday once, and accidentally left the back door of the house unlocked. Everything was still there when we got back…
That said, we’re still careful (much more careful now than we used to be), but it’s nice having the peace of mind not having to ‘fret’ all the time about being attacked or robbed.
Marco.
29 for August. I guess they were on congee annuelle like our French chums ;)
Ha - indeed! :eyebrows:
If I lived where you do, I’d probably spend at least half of my time in France… I envy folk who live in Dover. If I lived there, I simply wouldn’t shop, or eat, much in the UK (or indeed do much at all there).
Marco.
Actually I did it again on a different site and mine came out as 40 crimes
www.ukcrimestats.com/
Oldpinkman
10-10-2014, 13:41
Yup
We avail ourselves of the escape route via Dover often - at least the Pikies haven't nicked the water from the channel yet. They nicked all the copper cable running through the village and left us with no phones and no broadband for a week. And a poor telecom engineer phoning up to say "is that 12345678? Oh it is. Good. I've got 600 of these to connect up!"
Mrs S & I of course have plans to escape permanently. They were thwarted earlier this year when we offered on a house, only for the vendors to change their mind about selling. We saw another house we liked, with 2 acres of land and asked for a precise location. The agent gave us the land registry numbers (cadastre in France) and they added up to about a tea-towel bigger than an acre. In response to what I think is a not unreasonable question to the agent to explain this discrepancy we have been greeted with a deafening silence. It's not easy... :(
Combined with realising how much money we lose from Sue's salary not being readily replaceable, and the swinging French NI charges - which I am still investigating solutions for - the plans have been set back a bit. Well - at least until the tax return season is out of the way at the end of January.
But the plan remains to escape South. One day. I didn't get a result when I typed in the postcode for Montazels but I bet its less than 29 :)
Jeez, James. Sorry to hear that :(
Were they insured?
Marco.
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Yes luckily we had insured his laptop but not sure about the other housemates. One poor girl had her car stolen aswell! Someone must have been watching the house to know all 6 people were out.
Nightmare - I know what I’d have done with the wankers. Such vermin are a complete waste of space and of no use to anyone. Were they ever caught?
Marco.
istari_knight
10-10-2014, 14:15
88 in Petersfield. Anti-social behaviour & violence / sexual offences all near the pubs... Well theres a surprise :rolleyes: Mostly theft, shoplifting & vehicle crime, two cases of arson though.
32 at the previous address [Lizard, Cornwall.] All are either anti-social or public order. Given the amount of "bad juju" that I know goes on there that crime map is laughable & shouldn't be taken seriously IMO.
At least the police have investigated and taken fingerprints etc. Don,t expect we will see any of the stolen stuff back but maybe scumbags might get caught!
Even if they get caught nothing will happen to them. They will turn up in court in their tracksuits and when they get slung (suspended sentence or community service is regarded as getting slung these days) all their mates will cheer from the gallery. I remember it well ;)
Oldpinkman
10-10-2014, 14:54
At least the police have investigated and taken fingerprints etc. Don,t expect we will see any of the stolen stuff back but maybe scumbags might get caught!
Must warn my stepson - although he is in Gloucester, in Uni digs directly opposite a police station. Makes sense for them to back up uni work to the cloud. Says he of the 3 separate IT nightmares due to failure to backup - each time promising to learn for the next time. Will be doing a backup once I finish this post!
Don't count on the enterprising souls being caught. The police attend a crime scene to issue facile advice about security, complete their paperwork for crime stats for Marco's entertainment, and provide an incident number for insurance purposes. They don't waste their time trying to catch difficult criminals. They settle for easy to solve crimes - like kids using their Noddy cars on a public highway, or my niece crayoning on the pavement. :steam:
Even if they get caught nothing will happen to them. They will turn up in court in their tracksuits and when they get slung (suspended sentence or community service is regarded as getting slung these days) all their mates will cheer from the gallery. I remember it well ;)
Howzzat, then? :)
As far as I’m concerned, all these good-for-nothing wasters (in their chavvy tracksuits) should be rounded up, and dropped by helicopter onto a remote island, 1000s of miles from civilised society, where they can stab, shoot, rape and steal off of each other until their heart’s content - leaving the rest of us (decent people) to get on with our lives, ‘uninfected' by their repellent sub-human activities!
Marco.
229 in East Gateshead which is a pretty big catchment, although in my ward there were only 8 including 1 instance of antisocial behaviour on my street for which no perpetrator was identified.
I best keep schtumm then....
Long story but I spent a little time in the courts many years ago now and I doubt things have improved any. I should point out I was there as an observer; they never caught me for anything...;)
Howzzat, then? :)
As far as I’m concerned, all these good-for-nothing wasters (in their chavvy tracksuits) should be rounded up, and dropped by helicopter onto a remote island, 1000s of miles from civilised society, where they can stab, shoot, rape and steal off of each other until their heart’s content - leaving the rest of us (decent people) to get on with our lives, unaffected by their repellent sub-human activities!
Marco.
They tried that already Marco and now have Australia to show for it
Pinky is right btw the cops like soft targets these days. Tracking down burglers like some sort of latter-day Sherlock Holmes is not really their bag. If you are white, middle class and have got a few quid watch your step because they will be down on you like a ton of bricks should you even so much as spit on the sidewalk. Yer typical chav, on the other hand, will get a million let-offs for far more serious offences.
288 here. That sounds like a lot judging by some of the other figures quoted in this thread - but it's actually a pretty quiet area....
Pinky is right btw the cops like soft targets these days. Tracking down burglers like some sort of latter-day Sherlock Holmes is not really their bag. If you are white, middle class and have got a few quid watch your step because they will be down on you like a ton of bricks should you even so much as spit on the sidewalk. Yer typical chav, on the other hand, will get a million let-offs for far more serious offences.
And why is that, exactly?
Marco.
Beobloke
10-10-2014, 15:43
11 for us out in rural Hampshire.
And why is that, exactly?
Marco.
Modern thinking is that people from poorer, disadvantaged backgrounds commit crimes because of that, and not because they couldnlt care less about other people and think they can take the piss. Consequently if you are poor and disadvantaged the courts will be far more lenient with you on the grounds that it is not really your fault that you are a bad person. Claim an addiction to drugs and/ or alcohol - whether you actually have a problem or not is irrelevant, they won't check - and you will get even more lenient treatment. A pal of mine used that particular dodge to get out of assualting two police officers. he broke the nose of one and left a boot print on the other one's face (they took a photo of it). This was the third time he had been up before the beak for assualting the Police but he got off because he claimed he was addicted to drugs (which he wasn't) and it was the drugs that made him do it (which was bollocks). Anyway he got slung (again) on condition he went for 'counselling'.
Modern thinking is that people from poorer, disadvantaged backgrounds commit crimes because of that, and not because they couldnlt care less about other people and think they can take the piss. Consequently if you are poor and disadvantaged the courts will be far more lenient with you on the grounds that it is not really your fault that you are a bad person. Claim an addiction to drugs and/ or alcohol - whether you actually have a problem or not is irrelevant, they won't check - and you will get even more lenient treatment.
That brainless shortsighted thinking is so fatally flawed and counter-productive that it beggars belief! :doh:
A pal of mine used that particular dodge to get out of assualting two police officers. he broke the nose of one and left a boot print on the other one's face (they took a photo of it). This was the third time he had been up before the beak for assualting the Police but he got off because he claimed he was addicted to drugs (which he wasn't) and it was the drugs that made him do it (which was bollocks). Anyway he got slung (again) on condition he went for 'counselling'.
Most police I don’t have much respect or time for these days (as brainless power-hungry idiots, unfit to wear the uniform, seem to be getting employed into the police force now), so I presume the officers concerned were twats of that nature who deserved a ‘wee slap’ in retaliation for whatever it was they did to your mate? ;)
Marco.
Oldpinkman
10-10-2014, 16:13
Also the police are driven by statistics (like teachers in that sense)
So "solving" the crime of a kid crayoning on a pavement counts as 1 crime solved - the same score as for cracking a serial killer case. Notch up points with the easy targets. Not some rough thugs with the nerve to deny everything. I can think of a couple of incidents here.
First - I fell for a sob story from a lad in the village, who had helped us with our horses when we had them, who needed somewhere urgently for his mare because he was being turfed off his existing grazing. Apart from the fact the bloody thing jumped clean out of the paddock across a corner post and rail fence into a neighbours garden, it turned out it wasn't actually his horse. He had borrowed it (legally - with a loan agreement) and the owner wanted it back, so he had moved it to hide it. This was resolved easily once the owner showed up with papers to prove it was hers - I helped her load it into her horse trailer. First I knew about it was a visit from 2 squad cars and 4 police officers in flak jackets. Over a civil dispute involving a lad in his twenties (who admittedly spotted a soft touch in me)
2nd incident - I was walking my dogs (at the time German Shepherd and Doberman) off the lead across local farm land, and we encountered a lady walking her grossly overweight labrador, which she had on a lead. Now, my dogs were a nuisance, and bothered her and her dog, which was extremely poor (the current pair have much better recall; they will come back immediately without question if I whistle - and I carry a dog whistle so I don't suffer dry lips as on this occasion. - the Doberman was lovely but thick as 2 short planks). Nobody was hurt - no dog was injured - it was over in 10 seconds maximum, and I apologised profusely. The next lunch time I returned to find our gate swinging open, tyre tracks across the lawn, and huge axe marks in the gate which had been attacked with an axe. On the gate was pinned a hand written note, in the handwriting of the womans 30 year old son (who I suspect had learning difficulties - a syndrome of some sort) saying "keep your dogs away from my mum, or else". Now - you might have thought even Plod could spot a clue that simple, but the police who attended the incident concluded there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution. They had a word - and the Mum came down afterwards, not to apologise, but to explain to me with great compassion why her boy wouldn't do a thing like that. Yes - he wrote the note, cos he was worried about his mum, but he wouldnt have taken an axe to the gate...
I am a strapping lad, and was pissed off but not frightened. My girlfriend at the time was absolutely petrified - and wouldn't go out of the house on foot without me. So much for the police :doh:
(The police did on their visit to me seek to verify the accusation that my violent and dangerous dogs attacked the woman. Having been extensively licked and nuzzled, and spent 20 minutes stroking them and tickling their ears, and in the absence of any mark or injury on the woman or her dog, they concluded that no harm was done, and just suggested I make sure they are under control in public in future. Very sensible policing in that respect )
26 for my area, with 1 reported incident in my road (about 150m from me!) :rolleyes:
Was that when you got caught flashing at grannies in the local park? :eyebrows:
Dirty, boy! ;)
Marco.
What level of granularity is everyone using? I get 840 for my overall district but 0 on my road and to get to 1 I have to look a few roads away.
a figure of 1955 in my borough not surprising really as August is a quiet month with lots of scrote's on their jolly's , I would expect
this figure to rise steadily as the long nights draw in.:doh:
Must warn my stepson - although he is in Gloucester, in Uni digs directly opposite a police station. Makes sense for them to back up uni work to the cloud. Says he of the 3 separate IT nightmares due to failure to backup - each time promising to learn for the next time. Will be doing a backup once I finish this post!
Don't count on the enterprising souls being caught. The police attend a crime scene to issue facile advice about security, complete their paperwork for crime stats for Marco's entertainment, and provide an incident number for insurance purposes. They don't waste their time trying to catch difficult criminals. They settle for easy to solve crimes - like kids using their Noddy cars on a public highway, or my niece crayoning on the pavement. :steam:
Just a warning to all you folk out there who have kids at university.
There has been knowledge of taxi drivers informing a house is empty after they have picked up a house full of students. Students tend to share a taxi and all go out together so they know the house is empty, then they inform their scumbag thieving mates.
So advice to anyone with kids at uni ask them to get the taxi to pick them up somewhere other than outside the address they are living at - the end of the road or near a close pub will do.
That’s very good advice.
Marco.
Here we have a neighbourhood watch which works well. Got signs up etc. Scares a lot away. Then there was the proactive anti scumbag group;)
Most of the recorded activity in our area is classed as petty crime such as kids riding noisy mopeds, theft from cars or garden sheds, public order offences etc, etc. There has been a worrying increase in violence against the person this year however. Incidents of assault and sexually motivated attacks have risen by nearly 8% in the area and even more worrying is that the vast majority these are occurring between 8am and 5pm.
Historically Corby has always had a higher crime rate than nearby towns of a similar size such as Kettering and Wellingborough (a fact which many petty criminals are proud of btw :rolleyes:), although things did improve somewhat during the 'noughties'. Over the last five years however there has been a spike in population growth, a large percentage of which has been attributed to an influx of migrants from eastern Europe and the Caucuses. Unfortunately the rising crime figures reflect this as a good proportion of the increase is attributable to migrants.
I have lived on my street for ten years and in that time there has been
Four murders , several serious woundings and loads of property theft .
The current crime of choice for the scrotes is robbing teenage schoolgirls
And women of their phones cash and keys , in broad daylight . Recently
I have had to escort kids home from our local co op because they are hiding
From a gang waiting to rob them and are quite literally terrified . One
Concearned resident even put up posters warning women of the potential
Danger but the stupid council took them down.
The murder rate in Corby has dropped since the 1990's, it used to be disproportionately high for a small town, the local drug scene being the driving force. Sadly much of what you have posted makes for familiar reading Paul :rolleyes:
Haselsh1
11-10-2014, 12:32
Anyone is welcome to break in if they like but a Weirhauch HW45 will deal with them if they do.
Haselsh1
11-10-2014, 12:37
Anyone is welcome to break in if they like but a Weirhauch HW45 will deal with them if they do.
OK, so I checked the crime map and there was one in my immediate neighbourhood. Looks like I don't get to practice target shooting on the bastards after all. I love a bit of CQB...!
Anyone is welcome to break in if they like but a Weirhauch HW45 will deal with them if they do.
Hehehe… Nice air rifle, Shaun. I also have one, and indeed something else with a bit more, shall we say, ‘blasting power’, which I wouldn’t hesitate to use on the kneecaps of any intruder! ;)
Marco.
It's a pistol isn't it?
Anyways one drawback to your plans, gentlemen, is that you have to be there to fire said weapons. What if they break in while you are out?
Generally the house alarm (which is always set when we’re out), and other security measures in place, would scare off most burglars. If not, then we’re insured up to the hilt! ;)
Furthermore, as I work from home, being semi-retired, the house is occupied at times when most other people are out working and leaving their homes unoccupied, and thus often targeted by burglars.
At night, they’d have to get past me (and our assembled 'arsenal of toys’), as the cats and/or alarm system would wake us up at the slightest disturbance, before they got away with anything - and trust me, I’m the type who would do time in prison first, defending the contents of our property and those in it, before letting any fucker get away with gaining entry to our home uninvited…
Marco.
It's a pistol isn't it?
Yes, my boob. Mine is the HW95, which is a Weihrauch rifle.
Marco.
walpurgis
11-10-2014, 13:37
Anyone is welcome to break in if they like but a Weirhauch HW45 will deal with them if they do.
I had an HW55 years ago. Preferred my Sig Hammerli 403 and BSF Model 55 though.
(still got a .22 BSA Meteor and a small German .177 rifle and a crossbow and about 8 powerful slingshots, an African spear, a variety of pickaxe handles, a razor sharp axe, hunting knives, etc., etc....... The list is endless.......:eyebrows:)
Heh-heh… Thing is, as they say in Glasgow: ‘ur ye as mental as the chibs yur carryin'’? ;)
Marco.
Haselsh1
11-10-2014, 13:53
If 'they' break in and are uninvited then they should be prepared to face the consequences of their action and that means leaving in a black plastic bag.
Haselsh1
11-10-2014, 13:55
Would really like an HW75 which is a fully tricked out version of the 45 but there is only so much money to throw around and I doubt a wooden grip would make much of a difference to a 5.5mm lead round hitting you in the face.
If 'they' break in and are uninvited then they should be prepared to face the consequences of their action and that means leaving in a black plastic bag.
Exacto!
Marco.
Spectral Morn
11-10-2014, 14:18
I have lived on my street for ten years and in that time there has been
Four murders , several serious woundings and loads of property theft .
The current crime of choice for the scrotes is robbing teenage schoolgirls
And women of their phones cash and keys , in broad daylight . Recently
I have had to escort kids home from our local co op because they are hiding
From a gang waiting to rob them and are quite literally terrified . One
Concearned resident even put up posters warning women of the potential
Danger but the stupid council took them down.
Flip where do you live Emerdale or near the Queen Vic
Regards Neil
walpurgis
11-10-2014, 14:30
If they break into my place, I'll experiment on them with my electric carving knife and gas flame weed torch.
walpurgis
11-10-2014, 14:42
Get one of these wicked little beasties: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS0G2UC_TSo
Nearly three times the power of the average pistol type! Cheap too.
Or of course there's always a nail gun. "Yer knee-bones connected to yer, head bone... " :D
On Christmas Eve in 2009, Ezekiel Gilbert paid an escort he found on Craigslist $150 for what he thought would be sex. Instead, according to the San Antonio Express-News, 23-year-old Lenora Frago left his apartment after about 20 minutes without consummating the act. Gilbert, now 30, followed her to a car with a gun and shot her in the neck through the passenger-side window. Frago became paralyzed, and died about seven months later. Gilbert admitted to shooting her but contended that he did not intend to kill.
Gilbert was tried for murder. Last Wednesday, a Texas jury ruled that his actions were legal. That’s because Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
Texas A&M Professor Mark Hoekstra, who studies the effectiveness of lethal-force provisions in self-defense law, says the protection-of-property element of the deadly force law is “pretty unique to Texas.” Within Texas, however, the case was not unique. In 2010, the law protected a Houston taco-truck owner who shot a man for stealing a tip jar containing $20.12. Also in Houston, a store clerk recently killed a man for shoplifting a twelve-pack of beer, and in 2008 a man from Laredo was acquitted for killing a 13-year-old boy who broke into his trailer looking for snacks and soda.
Texas law also justifies killing to protect others’ property. In 2007, a man told 14 times by a 911 operator to remain inside during a robbery gunned down two thieves fleeing from his neighbor’s house. (“There’s no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?” the operator said on the call. The shooter’s response: “The law has been changed….Here it goes, buddy! You hear the shotgun clickin’ and I’m goin’!”) He was acquitted the next year.
So-called “justifiable homicides” are on the rise in Texas, where in 2007 Governor Rick Perry expanded already expansive lethal-force laws to allow Texans to kill in their vehicles and workplaces in self-defense or in any location to stop “aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.” Though the penal code has included the clause discussing “theft during the nighttime” since the 1970s, some Texans might have taken the 2007 change as a declaration of open season. From 2002 to 2006, there were 146 cases of justifiable homicide committed by private citizens. From 2007 to 2011, the number jumped to 224, an increase of more than 50%.
walpurgis
11-10-2014, 15:07
That all seems a bit extreme, but I think anyone trying to rob somebody or break into a home has only themselves to blame if it costs them their lives.
If they break into my place, I'll experiment on them with my electric carving knife and gas flame weed torch.
That’s not a bad start…. Usually I ‘tenderise’ them first with a baseball bat, then get jiggy with the boning knife… Wotcher fancy, love, a leg or a wing?
Marco.
walpurgis
11-10-2014, 15:19
Let's get imaginative. What's the best way to deal with scumbags?
You could strip them, bung 'em in a barrel with a dozen broken bottles then roll them down a hill. Then give what climbs out a pack of Elastoplast. :eek:
Don’t get me started on that. Honestly, the disturbing depravity, lurking in the dark recesses of my mind, is best not exposed…. ;)
Marco.
Marge Simpson: 'If the Police won't help us then we will have to take the law into our own hands!'
Chief Wiggum: 'Yes, a lot of people are doing that these days.'
The Barbarian
11-10-2014, 15:50
Putting crime aside i was ten mins away from being a gonna this week, something that happens on a regular basis where we live.
Putting crime aside i was ten mins away from being a gonna this week, something that happens on a regular basis where we live.
:eek: What happened?
Flip where do you live Emerdale or near the Queen Vic
Regards Neil
Holby city :lol:
No seriously it's actually one of the quieter streets on the estate
I live on , except for the time when a disgruntled gang systematically
Ran down the street smashing car windscreens with baseball bats , think
They managed about 180 screens before the rozzers turned up but they
Still managed to run away :doh:
The Barbarian
11-10-2014, 18:05
I was working late Thursday night got home around 8:20pm. Off the bus walked up the road & into out flat on the 2nd floor, i was around ten mins early. Gets in runs the bath around ten mins later {which would have been the bus after id have usually been on} this almighty bang that literally sounded like a bomb going off was indeed a car that had mounted the curb on the bend, straight across the coarse way id just walked on, the car went straight into the flat below us.. Cars come off that bend nearly every week.. I'll be using the rear entrance from now on.
I was working late Thursday night got home around 8:20pm. Off the bus walked up the road & into out flat on the 2nd floor, i was around ten mins early. Gets in runs the bath around ten mins later {which would have been the bus after id have usually been on} this almighty bang that literally sounded like a bomb going off was indeed a car that had mounted the curb on the bend, straight across the coarse way id just walked on, the car went straight into the flat below us.. Cars come off that bend nearly every week.. I'll be using the rear entrance from now on.
That sounds frightening! luckily where I live
there are so many parked cars that it stops
people driving to fast.
I was working late Thursday night got home around 8:20pm. Off the bus walked up the road & into out flat on the 2nd floor, i was around ten mins early. Gets in runs the bath around ten mins later {which would have been the bus after id have usually been on} this almighty bang that literally sounded like a bomb going off was indeed a car that had mounted the curb on the bend, straight across the coarse way id just walked on, the car went straight into the flat below us.. Cars come off that bend nearly every week.. I'll be using the rear entrance from now on.
Wowzers!!! Glad you are okay dude... :cool:
Stratmangler
11-10-2014, 20:01
Wowzers!!! Glad you are okay dude... :cool:
Same here - you just never know when!
There was a murder just a couple of hundred yards away from my front door a couple of years ago ....
The police managed to sort that one out pretty quickly.
Still it's a pretty quiet area, and most of the reported "crimes" are for antisocial behaviour - they should just be listed as public nuisance.
Another Andy
20-10-2014, 22:17
69!
Says a lot!
though I would think most of them are driving incidents, fast roads round here.......
I'll be using the rear entrance from now on.
Do they count that sort of thing in the crime statistics too? Glad you're fine!
walpurgis
20-10-2014, 22:32
If I had my way there'd be more crime around this shitty area. Due to me doing my 'Deathwish' bit and wiping out the local scumbags!!
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