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It seems that Mr. Salmond has now become aware that Politicians sometimes are economical with the truth when making promises - really Mr. Salmond?? Where have you been for the last 50 years, on another planet? Oh no, that's right, in Politics :lol: . Nothing in politics is sacred, least of all the truth :rolleyes: .
Welcome to the real world, our world - could make you a better Politician in future if you learn from it.
Dave.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
A verbal agreement ain't worth the paper it's written on.
Sam Goldwyn
Never mind that pish, help expose the corruption of our current government by clicking on the following link and SIGNING for an official investigation to take place into the vote counting procedures during the recent Scottish referendum:
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/independent-enquiry-for-scottish-referendum-vote-count
If you abhor political corruption and being by ruled by the interests of the London-centric Tory/Lab establishment, as I do, and seek justice for their suspected rigging of the referendum, then SIGN IT NOW, folks!!
Marco.
How many seats are Scottish, Irish, Welsh? You can't call it an English government, especially when Scots have had so much influence in recent years.
Ok, Clive, I’ll give you that. Now changed to simply ‘government’. Anyway, the most important thing is to SIGN THE PETITION and help EXPOSE THE CORRUPTION.
I’m going to go to town on this and use AoS to generate as many signatures as I can! :trust:
Marco.
I’m going to go to town on this and use AoS to generate as many signatures as I can! :trust:
Marco.
For maximum effect the town to go to is London ;) - good luck with that!
38 degrees seems to have had some success in this regard in the past but now, IMHO, they seem to have diminished that success by going for a blunderbuss approach (target anything and everything) rather than their original selective approach.
In attempting to change things for the better for everyone, (including the moronic, illiterate ones on council estates note Marco), the first thing you need to know is to recognise your enemy in this regard, namely big banks, big business, the Establishment etc, in other words the ones who benefit from the status quo and will pull all the many many levers in their possession to preserve their position - no small task to defeat that lot.
That is not to say that we should not try but the strategy should be based on what we know about the 'enemy' not what we believe about the magnitude of the injustices.
All IMO of course.
Given the vote was held in Scotland, with Scottish scrutineers, any monkeying about with the vote will have been done by Scottish people.
For maximum effect the town to go to is London ;) - good luck with that!
38 degrees seems to have had some success in this regard in the past but now, IMHO, they seem to have diminished that success by going for a blunderbuss approach (target anything and everything) rather than their original selective approach.
In attempting to change things for the better for everyone, (including the moronic, illiterate ones on council estates note Marco), the first thing you need to know is to recognise your enemy in this regard, namely big banks, big business, the Establishment etc, in other words the ones who benefit from the status quo and will pull all the many many levers in their possession to preserve their position - no small task to defeat that lot.
That is not to say that we should not try but the strategy should be based on what we know about the 'enemy' not what we believe about the magnitude of the injustices.
All IMO of course.
Sure, I completely agree. However, I’m simply doing my bit to make as much noise as possible! Let’s remember that AoS generates on average 2000 hits a day (not to mention what impact that has on Internet search engines), so if that results in more signatures going onto the petition, and something positive comes from that, then I’ll be *very* happy bunny! :exactly:
Doing something is better than nothing, as I abhor with a passion, you couldn’t even begin to comprehend, those who try and control us!!
Marco.
Stratmangler
21-09-2014, 11:47
Doing something is better than nothing, as I abhor with a passion, you couldn’t even begin to comprehend, those who try and control us!!
Marco.
Funny you should come out with this comment when you declare so loudly and proudly that you never vote!
Not voting is apathy of the highest order!
I dislike the fact that you never have the opportunity to register disdain at the candidates available, but I still vote.
Stratmangler
21-09-2014, 12:03
On a more humorous note http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/salmond-votes-no-2014091890806
Stratmangler
21-09-2014, 12:07
And this http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/westminster-vows-never-to-allow-vote-on-anything-that-matters-ever-again-2014091990824
Hi Chris,
Funny you should come out with this comment when you declare so loudly and proudly that you never vote!
Not voting is apathy of the highest order!
I dislike the fact that you never have the opportunity to register disdain at the candidates available, but I still vote.
Fair point, but the difference is in a general election I’d have to vote for a specific political party, and as I consider that they’re all as bad as each other (I hold all politicians in equal contempt), as ultimately they are all controlled by ‘the establishment’, and therefore corrupt, I choose not to take part in the corruption - and in the process divorce myself as far as possible from the system.
With Scottish Independence, I’m supporting/fighting for a cause, rather than just a political party - and furthermore it’s for something that I strongly believe would be of genuine benefit for the future of Scotland. That’s the main reason why there was a massively bigger turnout in Scotland for voting in the referendum than there is normally for a general election.
Why vote if you believe the political parties represented in UK general elections are all fundamentally corrupt? All you’d achieve by doing so is furthering the corruption! If the day ever comes when a political party genuinely has the desire to create fairness and equality for ordinary people, and are not simply puppets, having their strings pulled by ‘the establishment’, I might consider voting! :)
Marco.
I think one can safely say that UK politics is a good deal less corrupt than Italian politics.
Gordon Steadman
21-09-2014, 16:21
Hi Chris,
Fair point, but the difference is in a general election I’d have to vote for a specific political party, and as I consider that they’re all as bad as each other (I hold all politicians in equal contempt), as ultimately they are all controlled by ‘the establishment’, and therefore corrupt, I choose not to take part in the corruption - and in the process divorce myself as far as possible from the system.
With Scottish Independence, I’m supporting/fighting for a cause, rather than just a political party - and furthermore it’s for something that I strongly believe would be of genuine benefit for the future of Scotland. That’s the main reason why there was a massively bigger turnout in Scotland for voting in the referendum than there is normally for a general election.
Why vote if you believe the political parties represented in UK general elections are all fundamentally corrupt? All you’d achieve by doing so is furthering the corruption! If the day ever comes when a political party genuinely has the desire to create fairness and equality for ordinary people, and are not simply puppets, having their strings pulled by ‘the establishment’, I might consider voting! :)
Marco.
I can't believe that you could think that any Scottish politician would be any different. They all come out of the same barrel. What the hell would be achieved? Out of the frying pan into the fire without any possibility of backup from down south. Who would pay? The Scots of course. They would also have the same insects ruining the country.
The 'cause' would soon be forgotten and regrets would take its place - probably.
I hate politics.
I think one can safely say that UK politics is a good deal less corrupt than Italian politics.
Indeed, but that interests me even less than the UK pish does. The issue of Scottish independence was the sole reason I became involved here in discussions involving politics, as it’s a subject I normally avoid like the plague.
Now that that’s over (for the time being), and if the voting fraud allegations come to nothing, you won’t hear a peep out me again about politics. pfm is the natural home for that stuff.
Marco.
I can't believe that you could think that any Scottish politician would be any different. They all come out of the same barrel. What the hell would be achieved? Out of the frying pan into the fire without any possibility of backup from down south. Who would pay? The Scots of course. They would also have the same insects ruining the country.
The 'cause' would soon be forgotten and regrets would take its place - probably.
I hate politics.
I totally agree with your sentiments, Gordon. However, let’s just say it’s something I’d like to ‘suck and see’. What I despise most of all is ‘the establishment’ trying to keep us ‘in our place’. Fighting against that in any way possible, and refusing to be downtrodden, for me, is always worthwhile.
Marco.
Gordon Steadman
21-09-2014, 16:34
I totally agree with your sentiments, Gordon. However, let’s just say it’s something I’d like to ‘suck and see’. What I despise most of all is ‘the establishment’ trying to keep us ‘in our place’. Fighting against that in any way possible, and refusing to be downtrodden, for me, is always worthwhile.
Marco.
Or you could do what I've done and bugger off somewhere else that the barstewards are also messing up. There is no escape as someone has to do what the lousy gits do instead of a proper job.
Its not often I'm glad to be old and out of it all now.
PS. Just keep paying the pension please:)
Or you could do what I've done and bugger off somewhere else that the barstewards are also messing up.
Oh don’t worry, Del and I will be retiring to the properly we have in Italy, but we’re waiting a few years before we do that :)
In the meantime, it's fun trying to be as much of a thorn in the side as possible to ‘the establishment’, whenever the opportunity arises!
Marco.
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