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Wakefield Turntables
29-08-2014, 15:41
This is a for the guys that have requested what I've done to my 1210 over the years but cant be bothered to read my thread on the subject. Here goes :-


DECK
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Technics 1210

Mat - Resomat
Platter - Mike New Copper/Aluminium
Bearing - Mike New
Chasis - Silicone dampened
- Mike New Baseplate
- Filled and stiffened
Tonearm board - Magna Audio ebony armboard
Feet - Isonoe
- 6mm Sorbothane intrinsic "cushions"
PSU - Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/Jaeger(low-impedance) connector
PCB mods - Paul Hynes 3 Stage Regs
- Recapped and optimised PCB
- Pitch slider removed
- Cue light removed
- Strobe removed
- PSU removed
- Internal silver (2mm solid core) rewire + teflon dialectic
- Intrinic & Extrinsic ferrite coils
ARM - SME V
- Kondo Ag Rewire
- Kondo Ag cartridge tags
Cartridge - Ortofon Cadenza Black
Cables - Yannis SPD-4 IC Tonearm + Eichmann Ag bullets
- Shielded earth + gold plated earthing spade

Hope this is of some use.

Marco
29-08-2014, 15:44
Cool - mine is all in my signature, which is precisely why I’ve put the info there (for the same reasons as you starting this thread), and thus why my sig is as long as it is! ;)

Marco.

Wakefield Turntables
29-08-2014, 16:45
Yeah I did think of that but the sig can only have so many chars and there are a few things which I have done which arn't in the sig like the ferrite coils and an internal silver rewire and the sorbothane cushions etc etc, yada yada..... ;)

struth
29-08-2014, 17:34
Hows about an order of preference Andy......and a rough cost would be helpful:lol: Looks like an awful lot.:doh: kinda daunting

CageyH
29-08-2014, 17:42
My mods have been a lot less extreme, but never having compared my deck to anybody else's it's difficult to say what the differences are.
One thing I am puzzled by is that once you have a decent PSU, and the motor turns accurately, what difference does a top end PSU make if the control circuit is left standard?

Andrei
29-08-2014, 18:25
One thing I am puzzled by is that once you have a decent PSU, and the motor turns accurately, what difference does a top end PSU make if the control circuit is left standard?
I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but the word 'accurately' is the key. Once you have a top motor - SP10 and hopefully SP1200 - then the goal is to ensure it spins at a constant rate. By and large the better the power supply the more accurate and constant that will be. I guess like anything else there are diminishing returns.

Wakefield Turntables
29-08-2014, 18:25
Hows about an order of preference Andy......and a rough cost would be helpful:lol: Looks like an awful lot.:doh: kinda daunting

Well all the Mike New mods prices are available on his website
The prices for the work done my SME V is available from J7 @ audio origami & SME websites
The prices for Paul Hynes stuff is available directly from him.

etc etc

In other words just do a little digging you'll get there. Now with regards which order, well I cant answer that as I actually bought them all at the same time so I guess I spoiled things for myself :(


My mods have been a lot less extreme, but never having compared my deck to anybody else's it's difficult to say what the differences are.
One thing I am puzzled by is that once you have a decent PSU, and the motor turns accurately, what difference does a top end PSU make if the control circuit is left standard?

A decent PSU is great but the internal regs make ALL the difference.

6L6
29-08-2014, 19:13
For the record -

6L6's Technics SL-1200

Mat - Acromat
Platter - stock
Feet - Isonoes
Bearing - Modified stock by JKWynn, with new thrust plate and converted to oil well.
Strobe - switched using the stock mains switch
Arm - Graham 2.2 ceramic
Armboard - Custom, my design. Two-layer aluminum.
PSU - Jim & Ken Super DC with precision reference regulator.
Cartridge - Benz-Micro custom for Scheu. (Medium-output MC based on Glider chassis)

RobbieGong
29-08-2014, 20:47
Well all the Mike New mods prices are available on his website
The prices for the work done my SME V is available from J7 @ audio origami & SME websites
The prices for Paul Hynes stuff is available directly from him.

etc etc

In other words just do a little digging you'll get there. Now with regards which order, well I cant answer that as I actually bought them all at the same time so I guess I spoiled things for myself :(



A decent PSU is great but the internal regs make ALL the difference.

Could you elaborate on that Andy. Also am I right in believing that the internal regs are only possible with a Paul Hynes psu ?

Andrei
29-08-2014, 21:52
[...] am I right in believing that the internal regs are only possible with a Paul Hynes psu ?
The Longdog Audiophile power supply for the 1200 /1210 comes in two boxes. One is the external power supply and the other smaller box is the regulator. I don't fully understand the electronics but I believe voltage regulation to be very important. In the Longdog power supply the regulator can be fitted internally or externally. I fitted mine internally in the space where the old power supply sat. I used plastic tie-wires to hold it in place. The supplier MCRU provides a pdf on how to install it.

Wakefield Turntables
30-08-2014, 07:43
Hi Rob,

just do a quick google for paul hynes and contact him, he's great at explaining stuff.

Andy

RobbieGong
30-08-2014, 12:57
Hi Rob,

just do a quick google for paul hynes and contact him, he's great at explaining stuff.

Andy

Sorry, I misunderstood you. When you said the internal regs make ALL the difference I thought you were saying in the context of to your ears hence I was curious as to how that translated sonically for you - no worries. I have a bespoke DC3 similar to this http://www.custom-hifi-cables.co.uk/home/power-supplies/dc3-power-supply and very happy with it indeed :)

Wakefield Turntables
29-10-2014, 20:50
Well its been ages since I modded the 1210, probably years. I thought I might try these simple mods to see if I could eek a little more out of the 1210. :)


TO DO
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- 6mm Sorbothane extrinsic "cushions"
- Intrinic & Extrinsic ferrite coils
- sorbothane bearing cushion
- Car dampening material

Clive197
29-10-2014, 23:22
One of the very first things I did was to put a ferrite on the mains lead as a few of you guys advised against changing the lead. I would love to upgrade the power supply and David at MCRU very kindly posted the fitting instructions to me. I read these and showed them to a friend and we both agreed that the soldering and using a meter to check the wiring that was required was way above our comfort and confidence level. So unless some kind soul can come to my house and do the work required the replacement power supply has to go on the back burner. It took me awhile but changing the bearing was both easy and very rewarding, should have done that earlier. Matt and feet were changed early on over a 6 week period and were relatively inexpensive and worth every penny.
The arm was changed at time of purchase and has now along with the cartridge been further upgraded. I know that there is still many things I can do but at the end of the day the sound I'm getting is the best I've ever had.