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Labarum
23-07-2009, 15:54
This is a FLAC stream

http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac

It is discussed here

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65553&highlight=flac

At the moment there is no easy way for a Squeezebox to stream it, but it can be accessed by other means.

I have not listened. I would have to move some hardware around the house, but I would be interested to hear views from others.

Is it a classical music station?

lovejoy
23-07-2009, 16:44
VERY interesting.

Yes, it is a classical station. Or at least, in the 10 minutes I've been listening I've made out the names Schubert and Liszt. Difficult to know what the pieces are given my limited knowledge of both classical music and what the Czech presenter is saying, but it sounds very nice. I have it playing faultlessly via VLC Media Player on the Mac. There is also no talking over the music. Sounds a bit like a Czech BBC Radio 3.

I need to start bookmarking these interesting stations, there's only so long you can keep listening to Radio Paradise.

Thanks for that. I shall keep listening, I might learn something ;)

lovejoy
23-07-2009, 16:49
I also just realised that they're streaming at 48000Hz, so I adjusted my Audio MIDI settings to match and now it sounds VERY good.

Wonder why it's 48KHz though...

Labarum
23-07-2009, 16:50
I need to start bookmarking these interesting stations, there's only so long you can keep listening to Radio Paradise.


My Squeezebox Favourites

Bartók Rádió (Hungary)
http://212.92.28.75:2008/
MP3 at 320kbps

AVRO Klassiek Beste NL MP3 256
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s55517&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Venice Classic MP3 128
http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=4975&filename=playlist.pls

D-dur (Czech Republic)
http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/download/ddur_maxogg.m3u
OGG at 224kbps

Vltava (Czech Republic)
http://radio.cesnet.cz/cgi-bin/cro3-256-ogg.pls
OGG at 224kbps

Devín (Slovakia)
http://live.slovakradio.sk:8000/Devin_256.ogg
OGG at 256kbps

NRK Alltid Klassisk (Norway)
http://media.hiof.no/streams/m3u/nrk...sk-172.ogg.m3u
OGG at 172kbps

Radio 4 (Netherlands)
http://shoutcast.omroep.nl:8106/listen.pls
MP3 at 192kbps

Baroque Ottawa MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s65422&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Classical Quebec MP3 128
URL: http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s96897&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16

Radio Swiss Classic MP3 128
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25582&Formats=mp3,wma,real&username=sampletime&PartnerId=16


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Radio Swiss Classic (Switzerland)
http://stream-1.ssatr.ch/rsc/aacp
AAC+ at 64kbps (sounds like MP3 at 160-192kbps)

Play Classical (UK)
http://audio3.playradiouk.com:8060/
AAC+ at 64kbps (sounds like MP3 at 160-192kbps)

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BBC WMA Streams at 128

R1

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r1.asx

R2

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r2.asx

R3 (at 192)

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r3.asx

R4

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4.asx

R4 Longwave

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx

R5 Live

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r5l.asx

R5 Live Sports Extra

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r5lsp.asx

R6 Music

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r6.asx

R7

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r7.asx

R Asian Network

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/ran.asx

R4 Longwave

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx

Labarum
23-07-2009, 16:54
Wonder why it's 48KHz though...

Even without the FLAC the best Internet Radio I have heard has been from eastern Europe with OGG encoding.

Live concerts (or time slipped live concerts) are the very best. If the music has never been on CD the recording is probably at 48 or 96.

Do you think?

lovejoy
23-07-2009, 17:12
If the music has never been on CD the recording is probably at 48 or 96.

Do you think?

I agree. I was wondering if these were being played off DAT or something similar. It would seem silly to be playing CD's out and upsampling them, just a waste of bandwidth.

That's an impressive list of stations. Thank you very much for sharing that. I've been trying to expand my knowledge of classical music for some time: Compilations are pretty much useless as they always have the same stuff on them. Spotify is very good, but only if you know what you're looking for. This could be the way forward!! :gig:

serendipitydawg
30-07-2009, 09:19
Hello all!

My first post, after lurking since near the beginning. Thanks for posting the link to the Czech-based station streaming flac.

Not really my musical cup of tea, but the sound quality is streets ahead of MP3 based stations, which I avoid almost as a matter of principle, regardless of musical content.

I just copied and pasted the lnk into VLC ( already on my PC) and the music poured forth.

Well out of my m-audio Transit and into my TC 7510 (Yes I've got one too!

Again thanks

Nick_G
08-08-2009, 12:41
I was trying this last night on VLC, and the following error came up:

flac: this doesn't look like a flac stream, continuing anyway
flac: invalid size for a STREAMINFO metadata block

It still plays the stream fine though.

However, looking at the log for VLC it thinks its a 128kbits/sec stream, although it does say its 48kHz sampling rate. What's happening here? Am I not getting the full bandwidth stream?

It sounds good through headphones, whatever the bit rate.

Labarum
08-08-2009, 12:51
I was trying this last night on VLC, and the following error came up . . .

I have never seen that error.

Have you tried installing Foobar and the plugins that make bitperfect streaming possible.


(PC only, and you may be running a Mac)

Nick_G
08-08-2009, 13:18
I have never seen that error.

Have you tried installing Foobar and the plugins that make bitperfect streaming possible.


(PC only, and you may be running a Mac)

Hi there.

Yes I'm running an old G4 800MHz Power Mac that's rather slow these days.

So am I not getting the full bandwidth stream?

Labarum
08-08-2009, 13:58
I am no expert. The stream is playing, so provided you do indeed have the right URL I guess you must be getting the full 800Kb/s and VLC is misreporting. It must be a different version of VLC to that used on the current Intel Macs. Surely if your internet connection was not fast enough you would get dropouts?

The FLAC stream is here

http://radio.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac

and should be about 800Kb/s

The OGG stream is here

http://www.rozhlas.cz/audio/download/ddur_maxogg.m3u

at about 200Kb/s

Both are excellent. How you would play OGG (other than VLC) on your Mac G4 I don't know.

Songbird will play OGG

Is there aversion of Mozilla Songbird complied for Mac G4?

I can only see a version for Intel Mac

http://getsongbird.com/download/