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The Barbarian
10-07-2014, 12:03
I Started a new job a while back which is ok but every time it comes to a day off they always without fail phone me up wanting me to work.. My shift starts at 6:00 am {Have to get up at 4:00am} I don't want to make a bad impression but im on the verge of making it that bad by walking.
What would you do because by the time im getting near to my days off i more than ready for it.
mr sneff
10-07-2014, 12:14
What does your contract say about time off/being called into work on supposed days off?
You could try and negotiate an overtime rate, go for time and a half and settle for time and a quarter...if you dont ask you don't get. Last time I was in that situation I just did all the hours they wanted, 7 days, 80 hours a week some weeks. But then I did need the money quite badly at the time and I've always found it best to make hay while the sun shines.
Personally I'd suck it up and just do what they ask cheerfully - you never know where it might lead if you create a good impression. Most places as you move up the food chain the work load drops and the pay increases :)
jollyfix
10-07-2014, 12:47
Take the time off Andre , its your right. A bad impression of you, no!
jollyfix
10-07-2014, 13:00
Personally I'd suck it up and just do what they ask cheerfully - you never know where it might lead if you create a good impression. )
Quite right Martin, i have done that many times, but many jobs where i was asked to do extra, i was asked because i had already made a good impression, and was known to always say yes to extra work etc. After working with the company a short while, i said no, and found nothing changed, they just had to spend more time phoning other people etc. I still moved up the chain, and still was asked to do extra, times i would say yes, most of the time it was no. Still kept on moving up the chain.
Yep the trick is to get your feet well and truly under the table. Once they realise that they don't want to lose you then you are in a position to start negotiating with them.
Really good employees are very rare even in this economy so any manager who is at all switched on will realise what they have got and not want to lose it.
Eagle owl
10-07-2014, 14:26
Yep the trick is to get your feet well and truly under the table. Once they realise that they don't want to lose you then you are in a position to start negotiating with them.
Really good employees are very rare even in this economy so any manager who is at all switched on will realise what they have got and not want to lose it.
What he said.
The Barbarian
10-07-2014, 16:45
The problem is that because all the staff are brand new, they know {& i Know} that some are slow, unreliable & a waste of space, they see my work as fast & accurate to time scale, because of this im getting penalised by having to cover they additional work. Fine it's nice that they see im a good worker but i also feel they are taking the piss asking me to work every single day! no way on earth am i prepared to get up at 4:00am, 7 days a week for god know how long.
btw: i did say i would do the odd hour now & then but not constantly & i won't be used .. The only fear i have is everyone is on a 13 week probation period. I said i would not live a life again of getting up during the night for work every day & im not gonna start it now. If it end my employment so be it.
Mr Kipling
10-07-2014, 22:55
You could try and negotiate an overtime rate, go for time and a half and settle for time and a quarter...if you dont ask you don't get. Last time I was in that situation I just did all the hours they wanted, 7 days, 80 hours a week some weeks. But then I did need the money quite badly at the time and I've always found it best to make hay while the sun shines.
Personally I'd suck it up and just do what they ask cheerfully - you never know where it might lead if you create a good impression. Most places as you move up the food chain the work load drops and the pay increases :)
Really?
Mr Kipling
10-07-2014, 22:56
Yep the trick is to get your feet well and truly under the table. Once they realise that they don't want to lose you then you are in a position to start negotiating with them.
Really good employees are very rare even in this economy so any manager who is at all switched on will realise what they have got and not want to lose it.
Oh really?
The Barbarian
11-07-2014, 03:40
Anyone is disposable no matter how sparkling they are.
Stratmangler
11-07-2014, 06:54
Anyone is disposable no matter how sparkling they are.
Absolutely correct!
If you wander through any cemetery you find the graves of loads of indispensable people - the world carried on after they'd gone.
I've seen plenty of times an employee hold the company to ransom because they literally were indispensible. It doesn't happen often and it is never a situation that will last for ever but it does happen. One place I worked for when I asked for a substantial pay rise I was accused of trying to blackmail the company - but I got the pay rise.
With work there's how it should be and there's how it is. I've always operated on the way it is and not some ideal marxist fantasy. And yes I've got up at 4 am to go to work before (for £2.50/hour) and it is a ballache and soul-destroying. If I'd had another realistic option I would have took it but I didn't so I just bashed on with it and eventually things got better.
I would suggest that you organise something to do on your days off so that when they ring you can say that you are already committed to be somewhere else during that time. Make sure it's something relaxing so that you benefit from the time off.
Working you into the ground won't benefit the company as eventually you could become too tired or stressed to do your work effectively. If they are asking you to work extra now over and above other employees they must already value you.
Just turn your phone off!
Just turn your phone off!
Now that is thinking outside the box. :)
Haselsh1
11-07-2014, 16:17
My excuse to work...? I'm sorry but I am in Sheffield on that day visiting friends. My excuse for not hearing them...? Oh sorry, my mobile battery must've been on charge. They soon get the message.
jollyfix
11-07-2014, 16:23
I don't like to give an excuse, i would rather be up front and straight with people. Much better in the long run, for you and for them.
Techno Commander
11-07-2014, 18:29
Id turn my phone off.
jollyfix
11-07-2014, 21:11
Why turn the phone off, just answer and say No. Be straight with people. Most of the time you will have to explain when you go back into work why you were not available etc, they only get frustrated from phoning you several times hoping that you will answer. Then its the, " didnt you get all the messages i left" etc.
Absolutely correct!
If you wander through any cemetery you find the graves of loads of indispensable people - the world carried on after they'd gone.
One of my mantras used to be (and I forget who it came from originally) - you never see on a gravestone "I wish I'd gone to work more" - about time I lived up to it!
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