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MartinT
14-05-2014, 19:30
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Description
The SLIC Innovations Eclipse C balanced XLR cable is a substantial offering, thick and quite resistant to tight bending and very nicely presented and finished in a black braid. The XLR plugs on my sets are Black Rhodium, although various plug options are offered. No significant details of materials used are available but there exists a patent (https://data.epo.org/publication-server/rest/v1.0/publication-dates/20090107/patents/EP1509932NWB1/document.html) (no. EP 1 509 932) from which construction details may be gleaned. Reasons given in the patent for the cable’s performance include improvements in skin effect conductivity and magnetic field interaction between nearby conductors, although much of it is lost in the usual impenetrable patent-speak.

Two 1m pairs were kindly loaned by MCRU but have now been purchased as a permanent fixture in my system. My two runs are used in SACD Player > Preamp and Preamp > Power Amp runs, giving a fully balanced system path for optical disc playback.

For comparison are my previous Yannis 223.5 ConnectLitz silver XLR cables, themselves high performers which have seen off Kimber Select KS-1121, Tellurium Q Black XLR, Canare Star-Quad XLR and Mark Grant silver plated XLR cables in the past.

There was a small improvement in sound from new over the course of a few days, but not nearly as much as I am accustomed to with, for instance, silver cables. I believe that MCRU burns them in on a cable burner before sending them out.

Listening Notes
k d lang – Drag: more space around Lang’s voice. I could hear the studio for the first time. Big dynamics and her soaring voice really tested midrange clarity. Reduced sibilance and the ride cymbal really sounded like metal being struck. I played at a higher volume than I’m used to (a common theme with these cables).
Jeff Beck – You Had it Coming: a real sense of menace to some of the track openings, especially Loose Cannon.
Jeff Beck – Emotion and Commotion: fantastic impact but less harshness when the songs got very busy. Joss Stone’s voice incredibly lifelike in I Put a Spell On You.
Christina Pluhar & All’Improvviso – L’Arpeggiata: wonderful delineation of fine detail. Lovely delicacy to the dulcimer and startling attack on the Spanish guitar.
Dire Straits – Brothers in Arms [SACD]: the drum in So Far Away had metronomic timing and started and stopped very quickly. Some nice left/right swirling that I had never noticed before.
Prince & The New Power Generation – Diamonds and Pearls: the massive wall of sound in Thunder retained the various strands of the music and hung together wonderfully as a performance. This has always been a good test for any harshness in my system.
Damian Rice – O: the drum strikes in Delicate had proper shape in the big acoustic, putting me right there. The cymbal decay went on and on into a whisper-quiet shimmer.
Philip Glass – Violin Concerto, Eschenbach, Houston SO: lovely violin sound, highly vivid and with truly thrilling orchestral climaxes.
Albeniz – Suite Española, Frühbeck de Burgos, New Philharmonia: brass crescendi that took me aback with their attack in Castilla.
I listened to many more pieces but you probably get the general idea by now.

Sound
To summarise what I am hearing in my system, the SLIC XLR cables bring the following benefits:


There is more very fine detail, especially noticeable when it was previously buried in the mix. It isn’t just more detail appearing, there is space around the notes improving overall definition. Further listening reveals things creeping into my awareness that I hadn’t noticed before.
Quiet sections of music reveal more cues about the soundstage and recording venue. Reverb around the room, the noise the air volume makes, people shuffling, sub-bass shudders.
The volume seems quieter even when I’m pulling some serious decibels (I was hitting 95dB at my listening position during the Jeff Beck, for instance). There is a sense of the presentation sounding less busy, and appearing lower in volume, because the strands of the music are better separated; overall definition is up and glare is well down. I’m setting the gain 2-4dB higher than I’m used to.

I have not mentioned bass or treble simply because I can hear no enhancement or deficiencies throughout the frequency range. These findings are for my system with my ears. Since cables can only subtract from the signal, the above comments should be seen as saying that the SLIC XLR subtracts the least of any cable I have ever used.

Conclusions
Balanced cables, due to their superior connection and common mode noise rejection, tend not to exhibit the dramatic differences that single-ended cables do. It has therefore been a surprise to hear such an upgrade in presentation over the Yannis. Cable choice is just the final tuning and should not be seen as a tone control or a fix for poorly performing components. However, the greater the system resolution, the more subtle changes become audible and that is what happened in my system. So this is one solid rung up the performance ladder for me.

Only you can decide whether this cable represents good value for money, and only after you have auditioned it. In the context of my system, the two pairs represent 1/50th of its total cost and I consider that to be a very satisfying value proposition for the performance yielded.

Price
See the MCRU (http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/analogue-interconnects-/877-slic-innovations-eclipse-c-interconnect-cable.html) site for prices according to length and plugs selected.

My system as in my signature.

Effem
14-05-2014, 19:53
Good appraisal there Martin, you did better justice to it in words than I did :lol:

Interesting that you have picked up the same attributes with your balanced cable as I have from a single ended cable.

Have you listened to a well recorded live album? One of the biggest joys for me is listening to a live album and just how REAL an audience sounds. I'm listening to Fleetwood Mac's "The Dance" right now and the audience sounds as good as the band LOL. No more "bacon frying in a pan" rushing and whooshing sort of noises any more and at first it's unnerving to be surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of people clapping, whistling and cat-calling. You can almost hear the annoying guy behind you rustling the sweet wrappers :lol:

Alex_UK
14-05-2014, 20:00
Yep, top work there Martin, as always! :)

brian2957
14-05-2014, 20:07
Nice write up Martin . Very informative and to the point as ever.

Ninanina
14-05-2014, 21:18
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What he said :D:D

MartinT
14-05-2014, 21:22
Have you listened to a well recorded live album?

Yes, I was just playing Eric Clapton's Unplugged. The sense of a live occasion is wonderful and the audience noise and applause very lifelike.

SLS
15-05-2014, 07:38
I'm trying out several DACs, having sold my streamer, and Dave sent me down a mystery digital cable with the Longdog DAC. My amp had also just come back from having a complete silver rewire. Too many new toys for my own good, but the result is truly wonderful. In particular, Les Nuits d'ete, 24/192 Robin Ticciati version from Linn, the vocal has the most wonderful warmth and body to it. Single notes on a harpsichord have a tangible quality. Phoned Dave more about the cable than the DAC, transpired it is a SLIC with the posh Furutech Rhodium connectors at £120 per pair. You can get a good DAC for the price of the one cable. Very impressed all the same.

The DAC hunt comprises PS Audio Mk2, Longdog (shades the PS), Moon 380D (picked up yesterday, still in the box) and Auralic.

MartinT
15-05-2014, 07:58
Steven - just to clarify, you're using a single SLIC as a digital cable? That's a new application and not even advertised. Interesting - what other digital cables have you compared it with?

Effem
15-05-2014, 08:23
Steven - just to clarify, you're using a single SLIC as a digital cable? That's a new application and not even advertised. Interesting - what other digital cables have you compared it with?

It is shown on the website Martin:

http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/hifi-cables/885-slic-innovations-eclipse-c-interconnect-cable.html#

I'm told the SLIC range will be expanded to a whole lot more products.

MartinT
15-05-2014, 09:02
Ah thanks Frank, I didn't know that.

SLS
15-05-2014, 10:22
Steven - just to clarify, you're using a single SLIC as a digital cable? That's a new application and not even advertised. Interesting - what other digital cables have you compared it with?

The problem is I've got a lot of new stuff going on. Not really testing cables, more the DACs, and running two DACs at once for comparison. Cables from DACs to amp are TQ Ultra Black and Osborn Silver (from Australia, £140, as good as the UB's to my ears).

Was intending to connect my Ava Media Zara Premium data source by usb. The ZP has a problem with usb drivers (don't know if its me - probably - or the machine), so was using Meicord CAT6 as the PS Audio has a network bridge. You wouldn't expect there to be an issue with data over usb, but either I've gone senile or suffering from audio illusion, but direct to the DAC with the MCRU mystery cable gave a really thrilling performance.

I think the Longdog helped. It pips the PS Audio. I think it has cracked the digital to analogue sound trick. I plugged in the Moon 380D this morning and it sounded unpleasantly solid state by comparison, even with Dave's cable. The bass was possibly fuller, but the top end was dry and fatigue set in quite quickly. To me the balance of the DAC was wrong and all was revealed by the cable.

Dave is sending me down the standard SLIC digital RCA in due course, to see if the £120 plugs make any difference. I noted on his blurb that his mate in the Huddersfield mafia who is responsible for the SLIC that he selected much cheaper plugs that suit the cable and there is not need for the "upgrade". I think this is a test cable.

I've been delighted with TQ Ultra Black speaker cables and interconnects since I got them a few years ago. My only other cable is a Kharma reference silver cable from phono to amp, as both are silver wired and terminated.

So I'll be buying the cable, either the standard one of the one I have at the moment. I'll then sit back and listen to the music and not worry about cables any more.

p.s. Does anyone else out there have the Zara Premium? I love it and with a good DAC controlled from n-serve, its just a joy.

YNWaN
15-05-2014, 10:54
Thank you Martin for writing what is, by far, the most informative review of these cables. The only disapointment, for me, is that you didn't compare the single ended versions.

MartinT
15-05-2014, 12:02
I might try a single-ended SLIC for the one run I have (phono pre > preamp), Mark, but I've spent quite enough this month!

nat8808
15-05-2014, 17:50
The photo looks like it uses a cross structure as per Eugene Howe's patent, and with the slight twist in order to put on a reel more easily after making the cable. Is that what it feels like to you Martin?

I wonder if there are any other cables using similar conductors in the same 4-point arrangement and how they would compare..

There are certainly other patents with twisted conductor pairs in a 4-point arrangement to reduce cross-talk but manufactured sealed inside a round dialectric rather than the easier-to-home-produce cross structure. Those patents are for data cables so likely to just be copper to data standard purity (whatever that might be) and I presume the Eclipse is purest silver .

Edit: I mean Eugene Howe's other patent to the one Martin mentions in the OP : https://www.google.com/patents/US7777135 .

Yomanze
15-05-2014, 17:52
Yes, I was just playing Eric Clapton's Unplugged. The sense of a live occasion is wonderful and the audience noise and applause very lifelike.

What a lovely album that is. Anything from MTV Unplugged is great & also a good test of a system.

nat8808
15-05-2014, 18:09
Are they silver cables does anyone know?

MCRU's website seems to neglect to mention the conductor material completely. Could just be CAT5 ready twisted strands for all we know, or tinned copper or just tinned steel wire. Not that it matters sonically but does help make decisions on VFM.

If it's copper, there could well be cable already made with a similar construction that no-one has bothered trying for hifi ... yet!

MartinT
15-05-2014, 18:18
I have been unable to uncover what the cable material is. I can only say that it outperforms my Yannis pure silver cables and the aforementioned Mark Grant silver plated cable.

MartinT
15-05-2014, 18:20
The photo looks like it uses a cross structure as per Eugene Howe's patent, and with the slight twist in order to put on a reel more easily after making the cable. Is that what it feels like to you Martin?

It feels off-round in cross-section, Nat, octagonal or similar. If there is a twist, it's not consistent.

Yomanze
15-05-2014, 18:24
Are they silver cables does anyone know?

MCRU's website seems to neglect to mention the conductor material completely. Could just be CAT5 ready twisted strands for all we know, or tinned copper or just tinned steel wire. Not that it matters sonically but does help make decisions on VFM.

If it's copper, there could well be cable already made with a similar construction that no-one has bothered trying for hifi ... yet!

Tin plating does add an edge to the sound. I know that some people do it because they are worried about oxidation, but for me it adds something at the top end, a false sense of detail when used in certain ways...

Ninanina
15-05-2014, 20:34
It feels off-round in cross-section, Nat, octagonal or similar. If there is a twist, it's not consistent.

It just feels like a little snake to me, it's soo thick... :D

And just to add also that I am so pleased I kept my SLIC as it does perform so well, I think if i'd have sent it back I would miss it so then I know I made the right decision... and as Frank says you need to listen to a good live recording to really hear what the SLIC can do; it is quite uncanny!! and very real... ;)

Gazjam
15-05-2014, 20:42
What a lovely album that is. Anything from MTV Unplugged is great & also a good test of a system.

Loved the REM ones...the Pearl jam one...the SRV one....
Pity you cant get them in good quality apart from the "best of" CD's.

MartinT
15-05-2014, 21:04
The Clapton is well worth getting, Gary.

Yomanze
16-05-2014, 08:15
As is Lauryn Hill's.

MartinT
16-05-2014, 08:41
As is Lauryn Hill's.

Noted - thanks.

MikeMusic
16-05-2014, 09:09
Jerry Goodman - It's alive - very good indeed