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StanleyB
13-05-2014, 08:27
So what is the opinion on the English team selection? Is youth over experience the right way to go? If I am not mistaken we have already tried that a few times without any luck. It is a tough and long campaign in climate conditions I know very well.
chris@panteg
13-05-2014, 10:06
I don't think there is much to lose by gambling on a young squad, it will be quite an achievement if England get through the group stage, what the hell give the youngsters a crack I say.
Brazil are overwhelming favourites with Argentina and Uruguay close behind, I will be very surprised if a European team win it but Germany should be strong contenders, Italy too.
Looking forward to it and hoping for some great games, maybe a few shocks?
Old or new makes no odds,so give the new a chance.
Until we teach kids how to pass the ball the world cup is a million miles away for England.
chris@panteg
13-05-2014, 11:13
Very true , It will be interesting to see how Spain fare this time ,they should be contenders but I have a feeling the great run is coming to an end ?
Yes,expect them to be in last 4 but there team is getting on now.
They will bounce back soon though imo.
Sadly if things don't change in our coaching skills the same conversations will be happening on www in 50 years time.
Belgium could be worth watching out for.
chris@panteg
13-05-2014, 11:30
Yes,expect them to be in last 4 but there team is getting on now.
They will bounce back soon though imo.
Sadly if things don't change in our coaching skills the same conversations will be happening on www in 50 years time.
Belgium could be worth watching out for.
Underachievers Belgium ,they do play some good stuff .
At least Roy is prepared to take a gamble with the youngster's , I didn't think he would ? Most England managers in the past always pick the same safe old bunch of has been's and experienced (so called) players , it could all go horrible wrong and he'll get crucified by the media , but its a breath of fresh air , if he can somehow get them to click as a team ? Easier said than done .
Old George
14-05-2014, 10:05
England's chance of winning the world cup?...............They'll be back home before the postcards.
Has some opportunist second-rate singer released an England song yet? No chance of winning the world cup without an England song to lift the team.:rolleyes::D
As usual we have the hardcore deluded England fans who actually think England have a chance, the reality is Accrington Stanley have more chance of lifting the cup.
The European teams to watch are Germany/Spain/Italy. Expect some good football from some of the African nations too.
chris@panteg
14-05-2014, 11:20
England's chance of winning the world cup?...............They'll be back home before the postcards.
Has some opportunist second-rate singer released an England song yet? No chance of winning the world cup without an England song to lift the team.:rolleyes::D
As usual we have the hardcore deluded England fans who actually think England have a chance, the reality is Accrington Stanley have more chance of lifting the cup.
The European teams to watch are Germany/Spain/Italy. Expect some good football from some of the African nations too.
Deluded England fans ? I think almost to a man everyone of em thinks England won't get out of the group stage if they are being honest ? Uruguay and Italy will probably get to the semi's at least .
Stratmangler
14-05-2014, 11:34
I hope Roy is going to play videos of the Germany games in the last World Cup.
Simple attacking football and a resolute team mentality is the way to go in my opinion.
Patience will also be key - trying too hard to force a goal is not something to get engaged in - they'll get hit on the counter and will be overstretched and overwhelmed.
The other thing the England players must do is ignore all the worthless twats in the media.
chris@panteg
14-05-2014, 11:42
I hope Roy is going to play videos of the Germany games in the last World Cup.
Simple attacking football and a resolute team mentality is the way to go in my opinion.
Patience will also be key - trying too hard to force a goal is not something to get engaged in - they'll get hit on the counter and will be overstretched and overwhelmed.
The other thing the England players must do is ignore all the worthless twats in the media.
Yes Chris spot on , England can't compete with Uruguay or Italy in the flare stakes , they a need some sort of gameplan and stick to it ,all out attack and six in the box against Germany as I remember it ? Could easily have been 6-1 .
Old George
14-05-2014, 12:11
Deluded England fans ? I think almost to a man everyone of em thinks England won't get out of the group stage if they are being honest ? Uruguay and Italy will probably get to the semi's at least .
There has always been a group of fans (certainly after the '66 win) who kid themselves that England will succeed at every tournament. The more realistic fans just hope they can give a reasonable performance.
chris@panteg
14-05-2014, 13:06
There has always been a group of fans (certainly after the '66 win) who kid themselves that England will succeed at every tournament. The more realistic fans just hope they can give a reasonable performance.
Possibly, though I personally don't know any of them, certainly nobody I know around here?
There has always been a hardcore bunch of scots haters at every world cup as well.
I fancy Colombia to have a very strong run; lots of talent and experience and some serious firepower up front. Guarin, Cuadrado and Rodriguez have been on top form this season. Add Bacca and Falcao up front and they're very serious contenders.
England? Hmm.:rolleyes: Don't see them going past the group stage.
im gonna stick a fiver on uruguay.
at 28-1 i figure its a good bet.
chris@panteg
16-05-2014, 11:54
28-1 those are generous odds, I expect Uruguay and Argentina to do well along with Brazil of course.
Gmanuk101
16-05-2014, 12:02
hi
I don't think that he had much of an option and the squad picked itself really. IMHO it's good to see the youth coming through and given a chance, rather than decades of taking "celebrity" players and all the ego and baggage that comes with them, in previous years this approach has not worked and we've failed ever since 1990 (where we all know we got to the Semi-Final), since then it's been the same old selection policy.
I honestly think we won't get out of our group as with youth comes inexperience when tired (brain wise) and this not only a very hot and humid country but International football is very technical indeed. I hope I am proved wrong though.
Beers at 10pm should prove good for work the next day though :)
Got my bets on. Uruguay to win 28/1, Suarez to be top scorer 14/1.
England will struggle to get out of the group but it makes sense to field a younger side given the climate. Hodgson is the biggest liability I think, he is one of those managers who is reluctant to make changes when things are not working. He never seems to have a plan B. Hopefully he will prove me wrong.
julesd68
16-05-2014, 17:36
Anyone see the story about Samir Nasri's girlfriend who got a bit upset her man was left out of the French national squad? She layed into Didier Deschamps on Twitter and now he's taking her to court for 'public insult'!!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/samir-nasri-girlfriend-anara-atanes-in-hot-water-with-france-over-twitter-rant-9387359.html
Absolutely stupid behaviour by her, but Deschamps's response is equally pathetic IMO - he needs to man up a bit... And what kind of country is France becoming where you can sue someone for swearing at you??
Stratmangler
16-05-2014, 20:46
Deschamps response is very girlie.
He does need to man up.
It is strange though that he should leave Nasri out of his squad - Nasri has played exceptionally well this season.
Old George
21-05-2014, 10:47
.......he is one of those managers who is reluctant to make changes when things are not working. He never seems to have a plan B.
If that's the benchmark for England managers then you England fans will end up with Moyes after Hodgson goes..........;)
The crying shame is that Gareth Bale, who for me, right now, is the best player in the world, won't be gracing our screens...
As usual, I shall be supporting Italy, although I can't see us doing too well this time - quarter finals, tops. For me, it's Brazil's trophy!
Marco.
chris@panteg
21-05-2014, 23:35
It is a crying shame, also Ramsey.
Its almost unthinkable that any other nation but Brazil will win it, vs Argentina in the final perhaps?
It is a crying shame, also Ramsey.
Its almost unthinkable that any other nation but Brazil will win it, vs Argentina in the final perhaps?
Yup, or some other South American team, such as Uruguay, as the heat will be incredible... I guess it depends on how well Brazil handle the pressure as hosts and favorites - that's always a big factor, as the expectation levels will be immense.
As for Bale and Ramsey, yeah maybe one day Wales will be able to field a full team with players of that talent, and then become a force to be reckoned with! In my dreams, anyway... ;)
Marco.
MikeMusic
22-05-2014, 11:53
Pu Dave Brailsford in charge and we will win - the next one
No sooner have I put my bets on Uruaguay than Suarez gets injured in training and will almost certainly need a knee op and will be out of the World Cup, or at least the group stage. Bloody typical. Would anyone like me to knobble some other team's chances? Just let me know who and I will go and put a bet on them now for you, thus immediately reducing their chances to nil....
No sooner have I put my bets on Uruaguay than Suarez gets injured in training and will almost certainly need a knee op and will be out of the World Cup, or at least the group stage. Bloody typical. Would anyone like me to knobble some other team's chances? Just let me know who and I will go and put a bet on them now for you, thus immediately reducing their chances to nil....
Maybe his coach told him to train like as if it was a real match and so he is practicing his diving.
Maybe his coach told him to train like as if it was a real match and so he is practicing his diving.
LOL - South America is the spiritual home of diving so expect a lot of it in this year's competition...
Good news (for me) is that Suarez is now expected to start for Uruguay.
chris@panteg
28-05-2014, 11:33
Yup, or some other South American team, such as Uruguay, as the heat will be incredible... I guess it depends on how well Brazil handle the pressure as hosts and favorites - that's always a big factor, as the expectation levels will be immense.
As for Bale and Ramsey, yeah maybe one day Wales will be able to field a full team with players of that talent, and then become a force to be reckoned with! In my dreams, anyway... ;)
Marco.
Didn't know you had a soft spot for Wales Marco ,mucho respect for that , being of anglo welsh decent myself ,I always want Wales and England to do well , my dream is to see Wales make it to either the Euro's or especially the World Cup , maybe one day ?
I think Italy will do ok ,they had a poor World cup in SA , I'm sure they will get to the QF at least this time , sadly I can't see England getting past them or Uruguay , you never know though , desperately need a player like Bale or Ramsey , Wilshere just isn't there yet .
chris@panteg
08-06-2014, 09:19
Well, after watching the warm up games, I'm predicting an early exit for the three lions, can't see them beating Costa Rica? Let alone the Azzuri or Uruguay.
I have to agree with Rio ferdinand, its Brazil or whoever can beat them.
mr sneff
08-06-2014, 10:45
I won't be watching the world cup, I've seen it before :)
chris@panteg
08-06-2014, 11:53
I won't be watching the world cup, I've seen it before :)
Lol, yeah these bloody repeats.
Techno Commander
08-06-2014, 12:25
There's no way I cant take it seriously now.
http://www.pmslweb.com/the-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/48-FIFA-world-cup-facepalm.jpg
30 May 1984 - Liverpool v Roma European Cup Final. My birthday, had booked a romantic dinner at an Italian restaurant. Went to penalties. Restaurant came to a halt, a TV came out from the kitchen, all the staff were cheering for Roma, guests for Liverpool. We won and dessert and drinks were on the house.
14 June 2014, OMG where did the 30 years go? Will be at the Gran Melia, Rome. Very bad planning. Can anyone lend me an Italia T-shirt?
Can't believe that is more than 30 years ago now. Seems like yesterday.
chris@panteg
14-06-2014, 07:18
Netherlands last night, wow what a performance, Spain ripped to shreds, fabulous from Van Persie, and Robben hustling and bustling about the pitch.
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 07:25
Netherlands last night, wow what a performance, Spain ripped to shreds, fabulous from Van Persie, and Robben hustling and bustling about the pitch.
I saw the result but missed the match :doh:
I'll have to see if ITV player has it listed ...
Found it, it's on BBC iPlayer.
DanJennings
14-06-2014, 07:38
first game I've been able to catch so far, what a cracker it was!
I'm going to OD on football today though!
Columbia - Greece
Uruguay - Costa Rica
England - Italy
I'm going to watch the lot!
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 07:47
I am going to continue with plan A as far as watching matches go - watch the ones with City players (ok, I missed last night's game - I didn't get in until late and I was knackered), and check out the usual suspects (ie Germany).
Brazil won the other night, but there were more than a couple of dodgy decisions, and I'm still not sure why the Croatian equaliser was disallowed :scratch:
I'm very much behind this disappearing painted line thing - it's a fantastic way of keeping a wall in position :)
It should be used in the Premier League from the start of the next season.
DanJennings
14-06-2014, 08:03
I am going to continue with plan A as far as watching matches go - watch the ones with City players
Ha, if I did that for Villa I'd only be watching Holland (Ron Vlaar) USA (Brad Guzan) and Switzerland (Phillippe Senderos), very disappointing from a a formerly proud club that used to be packed with internationals.
I'm still shocked at the lack of call ups for Negredo, Nasri and Navas!
I'm very much behind this disappearing painted line thing - it's a fantastic way of keeping a wall in position :)
It should be used in the Premier League from the start of the next season.
I think that is the plan Chris. There was a funny moment last night where the ref sprayed the foam across the boots of a Dutch defender, he seemed quite indignant!
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 08:21
I'm still shocked at the lack of call ups for Negredo, Nasri and Navas!
So am I!
Well not quite....
Navas can cause real chaos coming in from that right wing, but his final ball is frequently none too accurate if he's crossing it into the area.
Negredo hasn't played at his best since the West Ham game (League Cup Semi 2nd Leg) when he injured his shoulder, although he was starting to look good again at the end of the season.
Nasri has had a phenomenal season - he must have upset Deschamps big style. Nasri's girlfriend has also upset Deschamps - the wuss should just get over it ;)
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9g9xkEjAf1qbdumgo9_r2_250.gif
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 08:28
I think that is the plan Chris. There was a funny moment last night where the ref sprayed the foam across the boots of a Dutch defender, he seemed quite indignant!
:D
kininigin
14-06-2014, 08:55
England to beat Italy and Costa Rica and draw against Uruguay! I have spoken,i go now!
Italy are notoriously shite at the beginning of tournaments, so I wouldn't be surprised at an England win. However, I'm going for 1-1! :)
Marco.
kininigin
14-06-2014, 10:39
Not a bad shout Marco and probably a sensible prediction,but it's the world cup and England are playing so i'm taking leave of my sense's and say it will be 2-0 to England :D
I'm not feeling any pre-match nerves yet...such a late kick-off time, I only managed half of the Australia/Chile match last night before dozing off.
If we can stop Italy scoring early we may manage a nil-nil. But my prediction is 2-0 to Italy.
Not a bad shout Marco and probably a sensible prediction,but it's the world cup and England are playing so i'm taking leave of my sense's and say it will be 2-0 to England :D
Lol - and quite right, too! As my roots are Italian, though, I'll be rooting for the Azzurri! :)
Marco.
Old George
14-06-2014, 11:39
Italy are notoriously shite at the beginning of tournaments, so I wouldn't be surprised at an England win. However, I'm going for 1-1! :)
Marco.
And England are consistently shite at any stage of a tournament Marco.;) Italy to win 2-1. Mind you, if England beat Italy the England fans will still be banging on about it 20 years from now.:rolleyes::D
Old George
14-06-2014, 11:43
Netherlands last night, wow what a performance, Spain ripped to shreds, fabulous from Van Persie, and Robben hustling and bustling about the pitch.
Van Persie's first goal was excellent, but (needless to say) having the right manager who can get the best out of players is essential. I'm expecting Van Persie to have a good season when Van Gaal takes over at OT.
chris@panteg
14-06-2014, 13:47
England v Italy, mmm tempted to say 1-1 but I think Italy will get a penalty in the dying minutes to win 2-1, remember euro 2004 and Zidane.
DanJennings
14-06-2014, 14:48
I think that is the plan Chris. There was a funny moment last night where the ref sprayed the foam across the boots of a Dutch defender, he seemed quite indignant!
http://giant.gfycat.com/ImpossibleDirectHawaiianmonkseal.gif
Hee hee
mr sneff
14-06-2014, 16:01
The England soccer team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. 'It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces and no hope,' said Jose, aged 6.
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 16:06
The England soccer team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. 'It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces and no hope,' said Jose, aged 6.
:rfl:
And England are consistently shite at any stage of a tournament Marco.;) Italy to win 2-1. Mind you, if England beat Italy the England fans will still be banging on about it 20 years from now.:rolleyes::D
Did something happen in 1966?
Marco.
The Black Adder
14-06-2014, 19:31
Did something happen in 1966?
Marco.
The Beatles released Revolver... To which will be playing tonight whilst the football will be not, not in this house anyhoo..!
:sofa:
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 20:01
The Beatles released Revolver... To which will be playing tonight whilst the football will be not, not in this house anyhoo..!
:sofa:
I'm surprised you bothered looking in the thread, seeing as how footie isn't your bag.
Desist with the thread crapping and go play elsewhere :ner:
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 20:07
Just saw one of the England support staff stamping down loose bits of the pitch in Manaus - it doesn't look very good at all, and they've only been training on the pitch :doh:
Tonight's game will be interesting just because of that pitch, and it doesn't bode well for decent football.
The Black Adder
14-06-2014, 20:45
lol... I deserved that.. red card for me. ;)
Techno Commander
14-06-2014, 20:48
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Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 20:53
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There's no such flag on my car ;)
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 20:54
lol... I deserved that.. red card for me. ;)
Taken with grace :)
Andy, that is thread crapping. But quality thread crapping. Respect.
Pre match nerves kicking in now. I've got some Guinness in to steady them a bit.
Well who saw that coming!? Costa Rica played really well, great win. Uruguay seemed too defensive and slow going forward. This will be interesting :eek:
Stratmangler
14-06-2014, 21:04
Well who saw that coming!? Costa Rica played really well, great win. Uruguay seemed too defensive and slow going forward. This will be interesting :eek:
Aye, just goes to show that it takes more to make a team than 3 footballing superstars.
Great win for Costa Rica :)
Hard luck, lads. I thought that England played pretty well, but tired badly in the second half, thus allowing Italy to dictate play. Pirlo was once again immense - what about that free kick? :eek:
Could've been a different game, though, had Rooney scored that 'sitter'! Sterling was superb - no doubt the other teams in the group will find him a real handful. Never mind, Uruguay look a bit pish, so you should pump them easily....! ;)
Marco.
Stratmangler
15-06-2014, 08:15
It was a tough game last night, and all three goals were first class.
The result is a bit disappointing, but the consolation is that England were not outplayed, and the team can hold their heads ups and march on.
skimminstones
15-06-2014, 09:29
didnt think england deserved to lose that game at all, for once we saw an england team trying to pass and attack with pace and movement. Gerrard is still giving the ball away far too often though when he tries too many long balls.
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 10:08
Yeah, a very good performance from England, on the whole, Italy were looking very tired in the 2nd half, content to defend the 2-1 lead and hit England on the break, Rooney will be kicking himself, missing that chance.
He really should be playing his normal role though ?
Pirlo was marvellous again, what a fine player he is, makes the game look so easy, just love the aloof way he plays, like he's not even trying.
Not sure you can contain him really? Hack his legs anytime he gets the ball, Uruguay and Costa Rica might try that.
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 10:10
My prediction was right for once, despite England's encouraging display, I still don't think they'll get out of the group.
Old George
15-06-2014, 10:28
Did something happen in 1966?
Marco.
Yes, something very exciting that people still talk about to this day........The 'Beeb' started broadcasting in colour.;)
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 10:47
Yes, something very exciting that people still talk about to this day........The 'Beeb' started broadcasting in colour.;)
Wrong!
1st bbc colour transmission was Wimbledon in 1967.
Thing I remember most about 1966, is going on holiday to weston super mare, aged 3 and getting chicken pox.
walpurgis
15-06-2014, 10:54
People who recall the 1966 World Cup as being in colour on TV have probably just forgotten going to see the 1967 FIFA film 'Goal', which was in colour!
BTH K10A
15-06-2014, 11:08
It was in colour for me ;)
Old George
15-06-2014, 11:20
Wrong!
1st bbc colour transmission was Wimbledon in 1967.
Thing I remember most about 1966, is going on holiday to weston super mare, aged 3 and getting chicken pox.
Actually we are both WRONG! First 'off-air' transmissions date back to 1962, trade test transmissions date to November 1965.
The formal announcement that colour transmissions would be made was in 1966. And part of the Wimbledon tournament was broadcast in '67.
Old George
15-06-2014, 11:22
Any predictions for the Argentina and Bosnia-Hercegovina match? i'll go for 3-0 Argentina.
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 11:23
Getting back to the world cup, got to say its been good so far, loads of goals, one or two shocks ! Holland and Costa Rica wins.
If its not too subversive to say but looking forward to seeing Argentina later and Messi, he's in my dreamteam along with Robben who was so magnificent the other night.
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 11:26
Actually we are both WRONG! First 'off-air' transmissions date back to 1962, trade test transmissions date to November 1965.
The formal announcement that colour transmissions would be made was in 1966. And part of the Wimbledon tournament was broadcast in '67.
But the Wimbledon 67 was the 1st broadcast to the general public, keep it simple.
Argentina to win of course, Bosnia might give em a game though?
mr sneff
15-06-2014, 17:22
Thing I remember most about 1966, is going on holiday to weston super mare, aged 3 and getting chicken pox.
I remember watching the '66 World Cup final on a TV in the lounge of a German hotel, with one other English family and about 100 unhappy Germans :)
chris@panteg
15-06-2014, 18:20
I remember watching the '66 World Cup final on a TV in the lounge of a German hotel, with one other English family and about 100 unhappy Germans :)
I was in Germany during the 1998 world cup, we were watching Scotland playing, can't remember the other team? But the scots needed to win but lost 2-0, the Germans in the hotel bar watching the game were gigling and laughing, have to admit so did I.
Oi you - rememeber that there are plenty of Scotland supporters here (including me), so I'm sure you don't want us to laugh out loud when, probably sooner rather than later, England are put out of this World Cup! ;)
Marco.
Oi you - rememeber that there are plenty of Scotland supporters here (including me), so I'm sure you don't want us to laugh out loud when, probably sooner rather than later, England get put out of this World Cup! ;)
Marco.
laugh it up all you want 48 years of hurt we are used to it by now.
Speaking of which isn't it almost that long since your lot even qualified? 'Tonight on BBC1 World Cup Football except for viewers in Scotland who will have their own programmes' - bet you're sick of hearing that lol
Lol... I seem to remember that there were a couple of World Cups Scotland were at, which you lot missed, namely in 1974 and 1978, not forgetting your failure also to qualify in 1994 (supposedly as one of the 'big teams')! :eyebrows:
However, considering the difference in size of population between both countries, it's foolish to even attempt to compare their respective football teams against each other, in terms of success.... In that respect, Scotland will always be minnows.
I believe that Scotland last qualified for the World Cup in 1990. Gordon Strachan is doing wonders with them at the moment, though, and I reckon things are on the up and, given a favourable draw, we could well qualify this time for the Euro finals.
Marco.
I believe that Scotland last qualified for the World Cup in 1990.
Marco.
1998, opening game of the World Cup, against Brazil at The Stade de France.
I was there.
Yeah I'd like to see them have another go. I still recall the 1978 championships and the stupid song :)
1998, opening game of the World Cup, against Brazil at The Stade de France.
I was there.
Ah, forgot about that one - so it's not as long ago as we thought! :D
Marco.
twickers
17-06-2014, 21:14
I always recall that cracking goal by Archie Gemmill. Who was that against?
Holland, in 1978... Scotland won 3-2 :)
Marco.
Old George
17-06-2014, 22:18
Holland, in 1978... Scotland won 3-2 :)
Marco.
Remember it well, Scotland needed to win by three clear goals and came so close.
It was a edge of seat entertaining game and i was certainly not alone willing the Scots on, sadly it was not to be.
Back to this world cup. What a great game between the USA and Ghana, the yanks had to soak it up in the second half and they looked knackered, but what a well timed substitution.
So what's the score going to be tonight, lads? :)
I'd quite like to see England win, as the tournament would be more interesting with them in it for a while longer, but I have a feeling that, ultimately, they'll get done by Suarez....
Prediction? Uruguay 3 England 1.
However, I hope I'm wrong!
Marco.
chris@panteg
19-06-2014, 10:12
Oi you - rememeber that there are plenty of Scotland supporters here (including me), so I'm sure you don't want us to laugh out loud when, probably sooner rather than later, England are put out of this World Cup! ;)
Marco.
No hard feelings Marco, getting enough grief from an old friend up in Aberdeen who thinks he can speak Italian lol , I'm half welsh remember so I can suffer twice as much , yes England will go out tonight I expect it .
chris@panteg
19-06-2014, 10:16
Did anyone see that coming , Spain out after two games , Hasta Siempre Tika Taka football , I bet you won't mourn its passing Marco , they need to change ,teams like Chile have worked it out and the Dutch well ...
Lol - no hard feelings at all, Chris! It's just a bit of banter :D
Wales is now my adopted country, so I love it almost as much as I do Scotland. Also, my wife is half Welsh. Italy (and all things Italian), however, is ultimately where my heart lies.
England may just surprise us. I'll certainly be rooting for them :)
Marco.
Did anyone see that coming , Spain out after two games , Hasta Siempre Tika Taka football , I bet you won't mourn its passing Marco , they need to change ,teams like Chile have worked it out and the Dutch well ...
Indeed not. Watching Spain play last night (even when their existence in the tournament depended on them winning) was like watching paint dry! :rolleyes:
There was a distinct lack of tempo and very little sense of verve or urgency, pace or penetration - total dullsville!! <YAWN>
Holland, in terms of how they play football, are unquestionably my favourite team in the tournament. Their style of football is *exactly* how I like the game to be played, and with Van Gaal at the helm next season for Utd, it augurs well for them being successful, if he can get them playing in a similar way.
His first signing, in that respect, should be Arjen Robben, to partner RVP!!
Marco.
chris@panteg
19-06-2014, 10:49
Indeed not. Watching Spain play last night (even when their existence in the tournament depended on them winning) was like watching paint dry! :rolleyes:
There was a distinct lack of tempo and very little sense of verve or urgency, pace or penetration - total dullsville!! <YAWN>
Holland, in terms of how they play football, are unquestionably my favourite team in the tournament. Their style of football is *exactly* how I like the game to be played, and with Van Gaal at the helm next season for Utd, it augurs well for them being successful, if he can get them playing in a similar way.
His first signing, in that respect, should be Arjen Robben, to partner RVP!!
Marco.
I'm a big fan of Robben ,always admired his determination and skill , he is in my dreamteam , yes the Netherlands playing total football again , can they do it this time ? I think its wide open ? Brazil look beatable and Chile might face them , that would be interesting .
Germany strong as ever , Italy still capable too , this is a cracking World Cup so far ,just want more and more goals .
Rather unexpectedly, it's been the top European teams that have impressed me much more than any of the South American ones. In that respect, Holland, Germany, France and Italy have all been fantastic, less so Brazil or Argentina, although I fully expect one of the latter to be in the final.
Personally (leaving aside my supporting of Italy), I'd love to see a Brazil v Holland final - what a mouth-watering prospect that would be!! :eek: :drool:
Marco.
chris@panteg
19-06-2014, 11:42
Rather unexpectedly, it's been the top European teams that have impressed me much more than any of the South American ones. In that respect, Holland, Germany, France and Italy have all been fantastic, less so Brazil or Argentina, although I fully expect one of the latter to be in the final.
Personally (leaving aside my supporting of Italy), I'd love to see a Brazil v Holland final - what a mouth-watering prospect that would be!! :eek: :drool:
Marco.
Yes indeed ,though I wouldn't mind seeing a Brazil v Argentina or perhaps Netherlands v Germany ? Mainly because the rivalry makes it interesting though potentially explosive ,remember the voller Rijkaard incident at Italia 90 .
A couple of interesting or useless facts (depending on your point of view) Italy since 1970 have reached the final every 12 years ,1970 ,1982,1994 and 2006 , some kind of sequence going there Marco , so they should reach the final again in 2018 and win it again in 2030 ?
England have never beaten Uruguay in the world cup losing 4-2 in 1954 and 0-0 in 66 .
Old George
19-06-2014, 11:54
Indeed not. Watching Spain play last night (even when their existence in the tournament depended on them winning) was like watching paint dry! :rolleyes:
There was a distinct lack of tempo and very little sense of verve or urgency, pace or penetration - total dullsville!! <YAWN>
Holland, in terms of how they play football, are unquestionably my favourite team in the tournament. Their style of football is *exactly* how I like the game to be played, and with Van Gaal at the helm next season for Utd, it augurs well for them being successful, if he can get them playing in a similar way.
His first signing, in that respect, should be Arjen Robben, to partner RVP!!
Marco.
A Robben RVP partnership would be a marriage made in heaven, but sadly it's not going to happen (I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on this)
This is what Robben said last month....
"Manchester United? That's not an option. I am staying at Bayern Munich. Period.
And I cannot imagine that Bayern would want to sell me.
"I have only just renewed my contract and we are happy with each other. It would have been a different story had I been unhappy.
"I would have been open to a move then, because I had a great time under Van Gaal at Bayern. He has been very important for my career.
"However, the fact is that I am very happy at my current club."
Of course money talks in football, but why would BM want to sell a prize asset? They don't need the cash.
2-0 or 2-1 for Uruguay tonight.
Very little sense of pace or urgency .... that's me all over.
Is there a game on tonight?
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 19:53
Surprise ! surprise ! - Suarez !!!! You couldnt make it up !! Now lets win da blinkin thing :steam: :rolleyes:
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 20:32
74th minute, 1-1 Nice one Rooney, bout bloody time ...... :rolleyes:
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 20:41
84th minute = Suarez = our agony. I'm off.........................
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 20:56
How bad can we get ? One man albeit one extremely talented and clinical man was the difference ..... and he wasnt even fully fit :scratch: :(
Suarez 2-1 England
That was the difference. Put him in any other team and the result would be the same. He's the best in the world at the moment. Period.
that was a bit depressing
Actually I think we have played well in both games, at least we had a go. Tonight we where undone by brilliance.
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 21:13
Actually I think we have played well in both games, at least we had a go. Tonight we where undone by brilliance.
We played well in the first game, nothing special in the second IMO. Totally agree about the brilliance. I knew he was good, but tonight I really saw why.
istari_knight
19-06-2014, 21:20
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/istari_knight9/zip_zps600615f4.gif
julesd68
19-06-2014, 21:34
I feel sick
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 21:35
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/istari_knight9/zip_zps600615f4.gif
:scratch:
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 21:37
I feel sick
U n me both Jules I was prayin we'd win
istari_knight
19-06-2014, 21:38
Rob, if I've got nothing good to say I'll keep my mouth shut ;)
...That said, we were shite.
RobbieGong
19-06-2014, 21:44
Lol ya nuts James :) I am so pissed it ain't real made my Mrs and girls watch it so we could get behind them and see a win......
chris@panteg
19-06-2014, 22:19
The difference in both games, world class!
England just don't have any, that's all, never mind eh.
Good grief. I could understand that 2nd Uruguay goal if England were 2-0 or even 1-0 down, but where was the defense? It is incomprehensible.
prestonchipfryer
20-06-2014, 07:01
Sad, innit!
Gordon Steadman
20-06-2014, 07:05
Its a good job that I find football rather boring and therefore don't have to suffer the agonies.
Feel for you though chaps, hard luck. Just think of me suffering the joys of watching McLaren slipping into the midfield again this Sunday.:rolleyes:
jandl100
20-06-2014, 07:12
Ah well.
At least true footie fans can now put National bias aside and just sit back and enjoy genuine world class sport without all the angst. :thumbsup:
Stratmangler
20-06-2014, 07:22
Ah well.
At least true footie fans can now put National bias aside and just sit back and enjoy genuine world class sport without all the angst. :thumbsup:
Not yet we can't!
We can only relax if Italy get beaten tonight.
If Italy can win their two remaining games and England manage to beat Costa Rica then we might just about manage to scrape through.
It's not ideal, but as I learned last season, it ain't over 'til it's over. I remember walking out of the Man City v Sunderland match convinced that City had kissed the title goodbye, yet look what happened.
England going forward looked very good again last night.
Unfortunately there are defensive frailties which need to be dealt with.
jandl100
20-06-2014, 07:26
Unfortunately there are defensive frailties which need to be dealt with.
Uruguay dealt with them rather well. :lol:
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 07:26
Forza Italia, comon you erm nice Italian players!
That's the spirit Chris.
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 07:31
Poor Stevie G, he looked a sad site at the end, the game against Costa Rica, may be his last ?
Nice to see Luis consoling him, quite touching, I see already loads of so called England fans? Slagging him off looking for the scapegoat as usual.
I'd quite like to see England win, as the tournament would be more interesting with them in it for a while longer, but I have a feeling that, ultimately, they'll get done by Suarez....
Unfortunately I was right... :(
Never mind, lads. I'm sure that the Azzurri will do you a turn - then all you need to do is pump Costa Rica! I agree with Strat; it's still very much GAME ON!
:exactly:
Marco.
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 08:18
Looking forward to seeing how the Azzuri deal with Suarez, Marco, he was brilliant last night, those 2 cheeky corner attempts, touch of genius.
Italy will be keen to beat Costa Rica, as a draw would mean Costa Rica and Uruguay could go through, but a win would mean they only need a draw against Uruguay, England are going home no question about it.
Stratmangler
20-06-2014, 08:43
Looking forward to seeing how the Azzuri deal with Suarez, Marco, he was brilliant last night, those 2 cheeky corner attempts, touch of genius
Last night we saw Suarez the world class footballer.
To be honest I think he didn't want to embarrass himself falling over in front of his compatriots, players and supporters alike.
I hope he behaves similarly next season :whistle:
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 09:01
Chris, a few more performances like that and don't think he'll be playing for Liverpool next season ? Barcelona or Real Madrid ?
Chris, a few more performances like that and don't think he'll be playing for Liverpool next season ? Barcelona or Real Madrid ?
x2- Could be a bit more dignified with his after match comments also.:(
julesd68
20-06-2014, 15:53
Chris, a few more performances like that and don't think he'll be playing for Liverpool next season ? Barcelona or Real Madrid ?
Not done and dusted but apparently it's Barca for £52M ...
Italy need to be careful or they will be out with England.
On behalf of all Italian fans, I would like to apologise to England fans... ITALY WERE UTTER PISHANTO!! A bloody embarrassment :o
Full marks, however, to Costa Rica. They thoroughly deserved to win and showed exactly how to play the game when your team have more brawn than brains... Italy, though, on that form, haven't got a prayer against Uruguay.
They'll have to WAKE UP, inject some urgency into their play, and stop simply relying on Pirlo and Balotelli to damage teams, if they are to progress beyond the group stages!
Marco.
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 19:07
Costa Rica topping the group, who saw that coming ?
I did predict it would be England's fastest exit from the world cup, sadly I was right.
Blimey Marco its squeaky bum time on Tuesday, Suarez to do the Azzuri like England ?
As italy are 1 better on gd over urg,i expect them to sit back and soak up the pressure.
If they do it could backfire.
mr sneff
20-06-2014, 20:37
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/ziggycat/2014-06/74ED781C-14BF-4358-AE59-9BA413721195_zpsx5l37swt.jpg
chris@panteg
20-06-2014, 22:27
Excellent lol
Ninanina
20-06-2014, 22:42
I always think England loose because I wasn't cheering loud enough for them to hear..... but I couldn't have cheered any louder than I did last night... so I have no explanation for it... apart from to say that 'at the moment' we are just not quite good enough BUT I think we might well be ready for the next Euro's... I think we have some good young players now and a little bit longer together is probably what we need
Come on England...... :eek::eek:
chris@panteg
21-06-2014, 07:21
I think Gerrard will surely call it a day after the Costa Rica game, he's had a horrendous world cup, the right time for him to go I feel.
Stratmangler
21-06-2014, 09:51
Ah well, there are three decent looking games on today, with City players involved in 2 of them.
For Argentina we could potentially have Demichaelis, Zabaleta and Aguero playing, and in the late game there's Edin Dzeko.
The match in the the middle is has the Germans - they impressed in the last World Cup, and I've no reason to suspect they'll disappoint tonight.
chris@panteg
21-06-2014, 09:57
Must say I enjoyed watching the french last night, playing excellent football, see how they fare against stronger opposition in the next round, much to look forward to.
Old George
21-06-2014, 12:02
It will be interesting to see the August FIFA world rankings when they are published. England are rated 10th at the moment, how did they manage that?:rolleyes:
Costa Rica are rated 28th, what are the odds that England will get yet another favourable rating in August?
chris@panteg
21-06-2014, 12:15
No they won't, its based on results, England will drop down to about 16th or 20th ?
chris@panteg
21-06-2014, 12:22
Costa Rica throughly deserve to win the group, after watching the highlights of the Italy game, from the national anthems, they showed, passion, pride,determination and desire, and they wanted it badly!
There's a clue in there somewhere?
Should have had a penalty too, played the Azzuri off the pitch, who'd have thought.
Stratmangler
21-06-2014, 12:26
I'm secretly hoping that now England have nothing to play for they'll relax and possibly give Costa Rica a good pasting!
I'm going to call the nurse now, as my medication needs topping up!!! :eek:
NURSE!!!
WHERE ARE YOU?!!!!
MY MEDICINE PLEASE ......
chris@panteg
22-06-2014, 08:19
I'm secretly hoping that now England have nothing to play for they'll relax and possibly give Costa Rica a good pasting!
I'm going to call the nurse now, as my medication needs topping up!!! :eek:
NURSE!!!
WHERE ARE YOU?!!!!
MY MEDICINE PLEASE ......
I think the England players will relax and play quite well Chris, but I think it will be Costa Rica giving England a real pasting, the final kick in the teeth ! There will be much rejoicing in Aberdeen on Tuesday night I think.
What a game last night though, and Germany playing so openly? This is why I love the world cup so much, great to see Ghana playing so well, one of my workmates is Ghanaian, he will be chuffed.
julesd68
23-06-2014, 11:57
Lampard to captain England on his final outing ... Will be interesting to see what Luke Shaw and Ross Barkley can do as they'll be starting as well it seems.
With Henderson not exactly impressing in the first two matches and Gerrard not running the show, I wonder where the future of the England central midfield lies?
My team would be:
--------------Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Shaw
-----------Lampard
Wilshere-------------Barkley
Sturridge---Lambert---Lallana
chris@panteg
24-06-2014, 08:09
Italy only need a draw today, think they'll get it, but a tough game though, I fancy Costa Rica to get at least a draw against England, we'll see.
chris@panteg
24-06-2014, 18:07
Italy joining England on the flight home, Suarez at it again, what's with the bloke ?
chris@panteg
25-06-2014, 08:42
No need to say anything really .
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75809000/jpg/_75809212_57129471-09ca-472d-8b4c-51ccea8faf98.jpg
Jeezuz... Much as I admire the footballing skills of Suarez, he is clearly a seriously damaged human being, and should be on the plane home along with the Italy and England team - if not in jail!! :rolleyes: 'Animal' doesn't cut it...
As far as actual football matters go, Italy were utter, utter MOLTO PISHANTO EL SHITE-O (which is 'pishanto' to the max), and as far as I'm concerned, fully deserve to be eliminated from the tournament. First game against England aside, which must've been a fluke, the yawn-inducing BORRRRRIIINNNG defensive tactics of Prandelli, together with the team's total lack of tempo, were a disgrace, and utterly alien to the concept of playing entertaining football.
In my opinion, although England didn't actually win a match, overall they played far better than Italy did, and at least tried to entertain their fans. England should stick with Hodgson, as they have the makings of a good (young) team - and one that could do well in the Euros.
As for Italy, arrivederci Prandelli (sei un vero scemo è grande biscaro) :wave: For Gawd's sake, let's hope the next manager appointed can inject some verve and passion into the team's play!!
Marco.
chris@panteg
25-06-2014, 09:45
Marco, I can't understand what happened to Italy ? There is always that feeling of expectation wirh England, somewhat over optimistic, but the Italian public quite rightly expect the Azzuri to get close or win the world cup, being recent champions that's fair enough I guess, just took a look at republica website and the utter despair on fans faces, well we know how it feels.
Marco, I can't understand what happened to Italy ?
No idea, mate. Prandelli said that he tried a 'technical system' that didn't work - and, by fook, it didn't!! :doh: :rolleyes:
As good as Pirlo was (and he was/is a special player), I suspect that when he retires, the team will be forced to change its style somewhat, as they'll no longer be able to place way too much reliance on him to control a game.
The other problem is that they have no truly great strikers, as indeed they once had....
Marco.
Other than a couple of players italy are pretty poor.
No doubt they will bounce back for the next world cup.
If only England played Uruguay after Italy played Uruguay! If Suarez was suspended or banned as he deserves to be then it would have been a completely different game.
No need to say anything really .
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75809000/jpg/_75809212_57129471-09ca-472d-8b4c-51ccea8faf98.jpg
Is there a mark there? It's so faint it's hard to see. Bloody primadonnas - in the old days you'd get the studs stamped right on the inside of your thigh - in the cold weather it bring tears to your eyes and the ref would never spot it. Next day the wound would be the size of a saucer and black and blue.
Ironic that the whipping boys from the so called group of death may go the furthest.
chris@panteg
25-06-2014, 13:59
Is there a mark there? It's so faint it's hard to see. Bloody primadonnas - in the old days you'd get the studs stamped right on the inside of your thigh - in the cold weather it bring tears to your eyes and the ref would never spot it. Next day the wound would be the size of a saucer and black and blue.
Looks as clear as day to me, that's quite a bite there.
prestonchipfryer
25-06-2014, 16:03
Yes it's looks quite clear there is a bite mark.
I've had worse from fighting with the cat....
chris@panteg
25-06-2014, 17:37
I've had worse from fighting with the cat....
Me too, now you're talking lol
Just a nip, that is. Not even broken the skin. Bet they ban him from the tournament anyway which means my bet on him being top scorer goes down the tubes. Suarez, if you're reading this you owe me five quid mate.
Don't expect he will play for Liverpool again.
Hopefully no-one will want to buy him off us. We need him to win the European cup next season.
it could be argued that suarez is the most talented player ever to wear the Liverpool shirt ? ( i said "could be")
what cannot be argued is that he is the biggest T*AT to ever wear the shirt.
the club just dont need him! sell and move on asap i say.
he cannot be compared to the likes of Dalglish, Rush etc.
he should have a season ban from competitive football and Liverpool should not pay him, during the ban.
mr sneff
26-06-2014, 11:41
A man goes to a brothel and says: "I have £40 - I want total humiliation please."
The Madam replies: "Here, put on this England shirt!"
chris@panteg
29-06-2014, 08:56
Brazil a bit fortunate yesterday, Chile played them off the pitch in the 2nd half, Sanchez was outstanding.
James Rodriguez, simply magnificent goal and a superb world cup he is having, Brazil should be worried.
The Netherlands should be good enough to edge out Mexico today, looking forward to the Costa Rica v Greece, could be entertaining.
Stratmangler
29-06-2014, 19:55
Fortunate escape for the Netherlands today - they were certainly finding it hard going in the withering conditions today's early game were played in.
The huge empty sections in the sunlight in the stands said it all - being in the sunshine in the stadium probably made Hades look like a chillier place to be.
chris@panteg
01-07-2014, 08:44
Fortunate escape for the Netherlands today - they were certainly finding it hard going in the withering conditions today's early game were played in.
The huge empty sections in the sunlight in the stands said it all - being in the sunshine in the stadium probably made Hades look like a chillier place to be.
Chris ,do you fancy the USA to beat Belgium today ? I have a feeling they might , Argentina to beat Switzerland , Messi to score and carry the team again , I think so ,looking forward to seeing the little man play again .
Brazil,holland and germany were very lucky to get through.
Thought algeria were fantastic.
Think the USA may beat belgium tonight,have been impressed with them.
chris@panteg
01-07-2014, 10:35
Brazil,holland and germany were very lucky to get through.
Thought algeria were fantastic.
Think the USA may beat belgium tonight,have been impressed with them.
I agree there is no obvious winner I can see at the moment ,its there for the taking , Brazil look beatable , Colombia could take them , Germany not entirely convincing but Muller is so threatening , they are taking huge risks at the back ? The game with les bleus could be a cracker !
chris@panteg
01-07-2014, 22:43
Best I've seen Belgium play so far, but what a heroic performance from the USA, incredible last half hour extra time.
RobbieGong
04-07-2014, 22:50
Am I the only one who finds Chiles n co's negativity with regards to how Brazil played tonight a pain. For me it was a great fast paced game and Brazil played well, doing what was required and with a sense of passion. Super goal from Luiz too. Now I know Brazil havnt looked 'amazing' up to this point but to just go on and on about them not playin great etc after this game is just rubbish imo, annoying and missin the point :steam:.
Great game but brazil have had the luck with them the last 2 games.
Germany game will be interesting.
chris@panteg
05-07-2014, 07:07
Brazil played with passion all right, lots of that, you can sense the weight of expectation, but there was a real feeling of panic after going 2-0 up, I think I can understand that, but really opened themselves up to Colombia, who could have sent the game in to extra time.
With Neymar out, sadly I can't see how they can win it now, Germany should beat them.
RobbieGong
05-07-2014, 09:16
Brazil played with passion all right, lots of that, you can sense the weight of expectation, but there was a real feeling of panic after going 2-0 up, I think I can understand that, but really opened themselves up to Colombia, who could have sent the game in to extra time.
With Neymar out, sadly I can't see how they can win it now, Germany should beat them.
Hi Chris, Yeah, I agree on all counts. It's as if as the host nation and being Brazil their country expects them to win it. Truth is they have some good players but they are not a 'special' Brazil side ie: one you can see actually winning the World Cup this time round. At least we can see they've give it some and you can never ask more of a team than that at the end of the day.
julesd68
05-07-2014, 10:04
I think the criticism of Brazil is fair game myself Rob! We just expect so much more from them given their history - definitely the poorest Brazil team in living memory for me. The best that can be said for some of them is that they are 'triers' and have an excellent team spirit but not much more - I feel sorry for poor old Neymar having to play with some of those guys. 'Fred' and 'Hulk' have comedy names and performances to match - Fred in particular has been beyond woeful in every game. One shot last night and 34 'touches' … I can't believe that there isn't better available in Brazil but then with the likes of Jo on the bench, er, maybe not …
Outside of Neymar they are seriously lacking in flair compared to what we're used to apart from the occasional moment of inspiration - David Luiz amazing technique last night for the free kick. Wasn't a game for the purist with some brutal tackling (31 fouls against Brazil) but guess that is to be expected for a local derby at this stage of the competition. Brazil had obviously decided to stop James playing at all costs and the ref certainly helped them in this regard - how Fernandinho's challenges against him weren't carded early on I don't know. Personally, I really hope they don't win it as that won't be a very good advert for World football.
RobbieGong
05-07-2014, 10:32
I think the criticism of Brazil is fair game myself Rob! We just expect so much more from them given their history - definitely the poorest Brazil team in living memory for me. The best that can be said for some of them is that they are 'triers' and have an excellent team spirit but not much more - I feel sorry for poor old Neymar having to play with some of those guys. 'Fred' and 'Hulk' have comedy names and performances to match - Fred in particular has been beyond woeful in every game. One shot last night and 34 'touches' … I can't believe that there isn't better available in Brazil but then with the likes of Jo on the bench, er, maybe not …
Outside of Neymar they are seriously lacking in flair compared to what we're used to apart from the occasional moment of inspiration - David Luiz amazing technique last night for the free kick. Wasn't a game for the purist with some brutal tackling (31 fouls against Brazil) but guess that is to be expected for a local derby at this stage of the competition. Brazil had obviously decided to stop James playing at all costs and the ref certainly helped them in this regard - how Fernandinho's challenges against him weren't carded early on I don't know. Personally, I really hope they don't win it as that won't be a very good advert for World football.
Hi Jules, Hope you're good. Again, I agree. I wouldnt want them to win it simply because they are definitely not the best team in the competition. At the same time if we'd have got this far playing like they have I think we'd all be saying we turned up last night and are showing plenty of heart and promise.
julesd68
05-07-2014, 10:51
Hi Jules, Hope you're good. Again, I agree. I wouldnt want them to win it simply because they are definitely not the best team in the competition. At the same time if we'd have got this far playing like they have I think we'd all be saying we turned up last night and are showing plenty of heart and promise.
Hey Rob, yeah pretty good thanks mate, hope the family are all well?
Yes, I take your point. Just another thought - everyone bangs on about the Premier League being so physical and hard, but as far as I can see, all of the South American teams play a tougher brand of football which we can't match at the moment. Some of those teams combine that with a lot of skill and flair which is a potent combination. The talented youngsters in the England set-up won't be winning anything until they can get to grips with these kind of teams physically in my opinion ...
What's also interesting to me is that England have tried to adopt what the European teams used to do on the whole - ie very patient passing game building up from the back ... A lot of these teams and also the South American teams are now playing with a much higher tempo and more directly ... I don't think we can live with this at the moment. Of course we don't want a return to the old style of full-backs launching it long down the wing for someone to run onto, but we need to be able to play our passing game, which England can do well at, but at a tempo that can hurt the opposition. It wouldn't hurt if we had a central midfield that could control a game and a less error-prone defence ... That's it, World Cup rant over!
RobbieGong
05-07-2014, 11:09
Hey Rob, yeah pretty good thanks mate, hope the family are all well?
Yes, I take your point. Just another thought - everyone bangs on about the Premier League being so physical and hard, but as far as I can see, all of the South American teams play a tougher brand of football which we can't match at the moment. Some of those teams combine that with a lot of skill and flair which is a potent combination. The talented youngsters in the England set-up won't be winning anything until they can get to grips with these kind of teams physically in my opinion ...
What's also interesting to me is that England have tried to adopt what the European teams used to do on the whole - ie very patient passing game building up from the back ... A lot of these teams and also the South American teams are now playing with a much higher tempo and more directly ... I don't think we can live with this at the moment. Of course we don't want a return to the old style of full-backs launching it long down the wing for someone to run onto, but we need to be able to play our passing game, which England can do well at, but at a tempo that can hurt the opposition. It wouldn't hurt if we had a central midfield that could control a game and a less error-prone defence ... That's it, World Cup rant over!
Lol! No rant Jules, Totally agree with the points you've made. That balance they've adopted of physical coupled with tempo and of course skill is very effective and hard to deal with. The physical bit though can be a bit much as we saw last night. The knee into the back of Neymar made me wince big time. You could see he was in serious pain and we now know the damage done to him and Brazil in the campaign of course.
chris@panteg
06-07-2014, 10:22
Smart substitution by Van Gaal last night, he has the midas touch, I have a feeling it could be a good season ahead for Man utd.
What about Costa Rica, hardest team to beat at this world cup, who'd have thought ? Great goalkeeper.
DanJennings
06-07-2014, 10:39
Smart substitution by Van Gaal last night, he has the midas touch, I have a feeling it could be a good season ahead for Man utd.
What about Costa Rica, hardest team to beat at this world cup, who'd have thought ? Great goalkeeper.
Yup. Fair play to costa rica, they had a brilliant run. Surprised everyone.
Hard to call who is going to win it, even now we're down to only 4 teams
chris@panteg
06-07-2014, 11:48
Yup. Fair play to costa rica, they had a brilliant run. Surprised everyone.
Hard to call who is going to win it, even now we're down to only 4 teams
Well I'm going for the Netherlands now , I said at the start ,Brazil or Argentina and it could still be them in the Final but I have a feeling the Dutch will do it .
chris@panteg
08-07-2014, 07:18
Prediction for tonight's game, 1-1 and a penalty shoot out, you can guess the rest.
Techno Commander
08-07-2014, 18:23
After being eliminated from the World Cup, the Nigerian captain has personally offered to refund all the expenses of fans who had travelled to Brazil.
He said he just needed their bank details and PIN numbers to complete the transaction.
istari_knight
08-07-2014, 19:09
After being eliminated from the World Cup, the Nigerian captain has personally offered to refund all the expenses of fans who had travelled to Brazil.
He said he just needed their bank details and PIN numbers to complete the transaction.
:lol:
Made I larf.
istari_knight
08-07-2014, 20:24
Brazil are going home methinks... At least they won't have to travel far...
4 goals in 15 minutes for Germany!!
brian2957
08-07-2014, 20:37
Bliddy hell , I was hoping for five or six goals , but not from the one team :rolleyes:
RobbieGong
08-07-2014, 21:33
Well I never !!!, Just got in and seen the result - What da......... ???
chris@panteg
08-07-2014, 22:13
Brazil were woeful, never seen anything like that? Germany superb, Brazil a nation in mourning.
They haven't been good for a few years.
chris@panteg
08-07-2014, 22:36
I agree, I thought Germany would win, possibly on penalties but 7-1 that's a huge scar on brazilian football.
Germany must win the world cup now, otherwise it will count for nothing, hoping they meet the Netherlands.
What is bizarre is that i don't think germany have been that great in some of there games.
More weeping Brazilians than an STD clinic...
I'm calling schennigans on this one.
Someone's made a lot of money off the back of this.
chris@panteg
09-07-2014, 06:19
What is bizarre is that i don't think germany have been that great in some of there games.
Yes, they seem to be improving with each game and last night really put it together as a team, unselfish and ruthless.
What's going to happen tonight ? I'll go for 1-1 and extra time, with the Netherlands getting a late winner.
chris@panteg
09-07-2014, 09:00
2-1 to the arg.
Some Messi Magic ? i think he will do something special .
More weeping Brazilians than an STD clinic...
Top line Gaz...I'm going to steal that one ;)
All this blarting on the pitch...there's no crying in Football!!!
Exposed for what they are, a bunch of show ponies, who should have been beaten by Chile in the last 16!
The final will be a different matter, both Holland and Argentina have defenders...tonight's game will be cagey :eyebrows:
[QUOTE=Gazjam;564505]More weeping Brazilians than an STD clinic...
you owe me a mouthful of beer and screen cleaning cloths :lol:
chris@panteg
13-07-2014, 08:50
Thought's on tonight's final, might be a tight cagey affair ? Possibly decided by 1 goal or extra time and penalties though I hope not.
I think Germany deserve it, been the best team, though Argentina have been hard to score against, but I'm going 1-0 to Germany.
Stratmangler
13-07-2014, 11:36
1-1 normal time, 3-1 Germany after extra time.
RobbieGong
13-07-2014, 21:27
And it's 1-0 Germany with a few minutes left of extra time. A fair result both tonight and tournament wise .....
chris@panteg
13-07-2014, 21:49
Yes, Germany worthy winner's, and I got the score right.
Stratmangler
13-07-2014, 22:00
That was one amazing goal!
Well done, Germany!! :yay: :champagne:
Overall, they were very worthy winners.
Marco.
kininigin
13-07-2014, 22:29
Yep Germany played well throughout the competion! Managed to get 3 predictions right overall.Germany to the final,Brazil to not make the final and England to be home before they had a chance to get a tan!
I don't much care for football these days, but I saw Vasco v Flamengo in the Maracanã stadium in 1979 - in those days it held around 200,000 people and I have never quite witnessed a spectacle like it, unbelievable and the atmosphere after outside was just mental, totally mental and it was just a regular game. Those guys really love their football! Such a shame Brazil didn't at least get to the final though and I was sorry to hear they lost, that would have been some mighty party had they won.
And don't you just love YouTube . . . I don't know if this is the game I went to, but gives a flavour . . . check out those shorts :lol:
UspKDcdxDrM
Fair enough result. I have noticed when watching the Bundesliga that Goetze is very accurate in his shots on goal. One thing that surprised me was that Schürle was not in the starting line up.
chris@panteg
14-07-2014, 10:19
That was one amazing goal!
Super goal , Chris , you have to say though that Argentina had two great chances ,which Higuain and Messi put wide ,that will hurt.
Roll on the premier league then .
DanJennings
14-07-2014, 17:48
How Messi got player of the tournament is beyond me.... He was disappointing.
Not even in the top 3 in his team.... I would put Mascherano, Zabaleta and Lavezzi over him.
I reckon player of the tournament should have gone to either Mascherano, Robben, Schweinsteiger, or Ochoa
StanleyB
14-07-2014, 18:45
Colombia playmaker James Rodriguez should have received the award.
Germany deserved it and think they will win the euros and next WC.
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