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Well despite my plan to get a second system comprising a Techy 1210 and upgrade parts, its taken my well over 6 weeks to get to this point:scratch: Had to get help to strip the stock arm down and unstick the VTA, add new external cable, add new arm tube as old one was twisted (the skilful hand of JT audio origami). Ive also now added isonoe feet, sumiko headshell and DL110 cart. Next stage is to pick up a phono stage as using an old mixer (i use a trichord D MK2 in my main system) at the moment. Ideas I'm playing about with include dynavector (P1), Nad PP2, MK1 Trichord or maybe an integrated option like a sugden a21 .
What tried and tested recommendations would you techies offer:D?
Btw these are running into powered KRK's at the moment but will change in due course.
http://http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n48/oxela23/IMG_2621.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/oxela23/media/IMG_2621.jpg.html)
nobody got any suggestions then?
Suggested mods include Techniboots for the Isonoe feet, Achromat, externalise PSU or fit an upgraded one.
Mike New bearing and an upgraded platter.
As for the phono stage, it depends on your budget. Jez Arkless does some good modified phono stages, but I have no experience of these.
Well despite my plan to get a second system comprising a Techy 1210 and upgrade parts, its taken my well over 6 weeks to get to this point:scratch: Had to get help to strip the stock arm down and unstick the VTA, add new external cable, add new arm tube as old one was twisted (the skilful hand of JT audio origami). Ive also now added isonoe feet, sumiko headshell and DL110 cart. Next stage is to pick up a phono stage as using an old mixer (i use a trichord D MK2 in my main system) at the moment. Ideas I'm playing about with include dynavector (P1), Nad PP2, MK1 Trichord or maybe an integrated option like a sugden a21 .
What tried and tested recommendations would you techies offer:D?
Btw these are running into powered KRK's at the moment but will change in due course.
http:// (http://http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n48/oxela23/IMG_2621.jpg)http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n48/oxela23/IMG_2621.jpg (http://s109.photobucket.com/user/oxela23/media/IMG_2621.jpg.html)
looking good, if you are happy with the stock arm all is good on that point, iFI Audio make a good phono stage which is small so can be hidden round the back of your rack, I use it myself when my main phono stage
is out on demo, removing the stock power supply into an external box works well, or up-grade to a linear psu and remove the old psu will make your techy sound even better, decent linear psu starts at £135 and goes up to silly money (£1k+) not sure about the benefits of spending that much though, a decent mat is essential if you are using the technics platter, the mike new bearing is a lot of money but sonically cuts the mustard, the mike new platter should be the final piece in the jigsaw once everything else is done, the techniboots will make a slight improvement but not massive
hope that helps
...or up-grade to a linear psu and remove the old psu will make your techy sound even better, decent linear psu starts at £135 and goes up to silly money (£1k+) not sure about the benefits of spending that much though...
Well, you experienced the sonic benefits of such a linear PSU yourself, when you heard my Techy (fitted with the Paul Hynes SR7, together with regulator modules), at Dom's bake-off. Therefore, daftee, you may wish to revise that statement... ;)
Be honest, and I'm not saying this to blow my own trumpet, simply to add some relevance to the discussion (in terms of the benefits of top-notch external linear PSUs), have you ever heard a better modified SL-1210 than mine?
Marco.
Did J7 rewire your arm with a decent internal cable as well as the external?
The most noticeable differences for me came from the tonearm and cartridge changes.
Wakefield Turntables
12-02-2014, 11:01
have you ever heard a better modified SL-1210 than mine?
Marco.
he's not heard mine yet:ner:
belloire
12-02-2014, 11:30
big love for the Audio Innovations S200 here. it's a passive pre amp with a valve phono stage in it. i've removed the passive pre from mine (lol, i haven't done the work, but....), but it might be useful as you're straight into the active speakers and it'll allow other sources to be added etc.
mine was a bargain at £250, and has mm/mc. if you can find one they are usually a bit more than that, but deffo worth a try.
i put it up against some stiff opposition at a bake off in the not too distant past and it swept away all comers, including an arkless 650p, an Audio Note S2 sut into AI S500 mm and an EAR 836p.
he's not heard mine yet:ner:
Lol... Simon said that yours was pish! :lol:
Only kidding! ;)
Marco.
Wakefield Turntables
12-02-2014, 13:33
Lol... Simon said that yours was pish! :lol:
Only kidding! ;)
Marco.
Right that's it :door:.... :)
Hey guys - firstly thanks for all the responses.
Kevin I have am upgraded rb300 on another deck but did not go for the rewired arm as i thought I would change the arm in near future (SME or something). Marco thanks for detailing the upgrade path and to all for the suggestion especially re the PSU- hadn't heard of Paul Hynes before thus reading with enthusiasm - I will definitely check these out:eyebrows: As I have limited electrical knowledge, I'm wondering if i could tackle this change myself - have others?
I must say I'm loving having a 1210 back up and running and enjoying the sound although going through a DJ mixer for phono stage is really holding it back. Seems then like the PSU and phono stage seem to be competing for the next move. Hope it doesn't take as long as previous work but enjoying the records along the way :)
I've done all of my mods on my deck myself. It's not difficult, as long as you can solder.
Nice one Kevin.
I reckon I'd have not problem stripping and rebuilding the TT but feel a bit embarrassed admitting I never soldered. I may give it a go or ask someone I know to have experience to give me a hand with that bit.
Im trying to find the prices of the Paul Hyndes PSU's as I don't see this info on his site (unless on wrong page or something:scratch:)
scrap that Ive just spotted prices :)
For the PSU I fitted, the soldering was not difficult, but a bit of experience certainly helps. If you plan to do it yourself by the time you have bought all the gear, you may as well have paid someone to do it for you.
If you have a mate or colleague who can do it, even better.
Marco thanks for detailing the upgrade path and to all for the suggestion especially re the PSU- hadn't heard of Paul Hynes before thus reading with enthusiasm - I will definitely check these out: eyebrows:
No worries, Alex. Paul's designs, IMO, are second to none. Any of his PSUs transform the performance of the Technics: simply choose the one that best fits your budget!
Perhaps next time I'm up in Glasgow, I could pop by for a listen? You never know, I may even be able to tweak a few things for you and improve the sound! :cool:
Marco.
A vote here for the DIY PSU project to see if you want to make a big investment in a professional PSU. It will only cost you about £60 to make if you can solder a bit, and it really is very straight forwards.
You will need to remove the stock transformer and voltage selector boards to fit a 3rd party PSU anyway.
RobbieGong
16-02-2014, 12:57
Hi Alex, Glad your enjoying your 1210. Your about to embark on one hell of an emotional roller coaster ride BUT with a few carefully thought out approaches it's gonna be well worth it. With regard to PSU's you are spoilt for choice. You can opt to do your own cheaply, MCRU do some nice ones (the rep Dave is a member here), Origin Live, Custom Hifi Cables do some which have received good reviews and good value too, namely the DC-1 and DC-2 for the Techie. The owner, Sean Jacobs is a top bloke and produced a lovely big bespoke one for me which he and I refer to as a special order DC-3. Paul Hynes Design (You'll find him here) do a range of great psu's too. I've not had experience but a fair number of the guys here have. Again he does a few to suit your pocket. I get the impression that his are very very well thought out designs and if I ever change mine it would be for one of his which would allow for the option of his regulator modules. It all really depends on how far you want to go. Look at and digest all the options, have a think and then take a punt, it's the only way - Enjoy ! :)
Hey Marco
I'd be more than happy to have you (and other techies for that matter) visit if ever up this way. Nothing better than hi-fi chat, tweaking and playing some record etc :cool:
Thanks for the additional suggestions and will look into these. Meantime I've emailed Paul H to get an idea of costs. As you say Robbie, just pulling all the info together, which has been very helpful so far :)
Tiff_Needle
19-02-2014, 00:08
May I ask where did you get that "hockey" puck?
I've seen those somewhere before, but don't actually recall where...
Hey Marco
I'd be more than happy to have you (and other techies for that matter) visit if ever up this way. Nothing better than hi-fi chat, tweaking and playing some record etc :cool:
Nice one, dude. I'll give you a shout when I'm in the area :thumbsup:
Marco.
May I ask where did you get that "hockey" puck?
I've seen those somewhere before, but don't actually recall where...
Do you mean the Bruil record weight?
There is a link on here somewhere, but from memory it's on a site called soundfountain.
If you google Bruil record weight, you should find it.
Yea upon reading the recommendations on this site I bought the Bruil record weight which has positively met my expectations. I have found this weight ideal for creating correct surface contact slightly dished or warped records - resulting in a better presentation of the music without sucking the life out of it.
Ive added a link to the site and I found Rudolf (who engineers the product) was an absolute pleasure to deal with start to finish.
Lets know how you get on
http://www.soundfountain.com/amb/amb.html
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