View Full Version : Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman Dies
Thing Fish
03-02-2014, 08:32
sad news indeed. I loved all his films especially his role as Lester Bangs in Almost famous.
He was only 46!
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/philip-seymour-hoffman-dies/
This is really sad news, he was an excellent actor and had recently 'come of age' so a signifiant loss!
Paul.
Wakefield Turntables
03-02-2014, 19:57
Its not sad at all, the stupid idiot injected himself with illegal drugs. I have no sympathy. :deceased:
Its not sad at all, the stupid idiot injected himself with illegal drugs. I have no sympathy. :deceased:
Is that really called for.
My sympathy goes to his friends and family he was a great talent regardless of his demons
Paul
Wakefield Turntables
03-02-2014, 20:27
take it how you want its of no consequence to me.
Philip Seymour Hoffman as Lester Bangs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO3amwzUZ-I
"Jim Morrison, he's a drunken buffoon, posing as a poet.".....gotta agree about The Doors v Iggy & The Stooges
:)
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Dominic Harper
03-02-2014, 22:40
We all have troubles and vices. Its called being human. He was a great actor and will be sadly missed, by me anyway.
We all have troubles and vices. Its called being human. He was a great actor and will be sadly missed, by me anyway.
Agreed, I liked him best in "Twister" one of his earlier films.
Its not sad at all, the stupid idiot injected himself with illegal drugs. I have no sympathy. :deceased:
Are you a member of a Borg collective by any chance Andy? :D
Compassion and understanding costs nothing and yet it is not only good for the soul of the receiver but also for the souls of those who offer it. There will be a time in all our lives when we partake of things which do our bodies harm, this doesn't make us idiots, just human...
Agreed, I liked him best in "Twister" one of his earlier films.
:yesbruv:
Ninanina
04-02-2014, 00:16
Are you a member of a Borg collective by any chance Andy? :D
Compassion and understanding costs nothing and yet it is not only good for the soul of the receiver but also for the souls of those who offer it. There will be a time in all our lives when we partake of things which do our bodies harm, this doesn't make us idiots, just human...
Well said Dave
I know nothing about him, as I kinda don't do actors & actresses, but he was certainly far too young at 46 to loose his life.....for whatever reason !
Ali Tait
04-02-2014, 08:05
Lose, not loose! :D
Haselsh1
04-02-2014, 08:44
Its not sad at all, the stupid idiot injected himself with illegal drugs. I have no sympathy. :deceased:
+1 from me
Wakefield Turntables
04-02-2014, 09:00
Are you a member of a Borg collective by any chance Andy? :D
Compassion and understanding costs nothing and yet it is not only good for the soul of the receiver but also for the souls of those who offer it. There will be a time in all our lives when we partake of things which do our bodies harm, this doesn't make us idiots, just human...
Do you want assimilating?
+1 from me
Look, the guy was found with 50 bags of heroin. I can find now compassion and Understanding for individuals how fund criminal activities which create more harm than good. This was ONE man, the funding of a drug industry effects many more. If you spend a little time time and look at the bigger context of what taking drugs actually does to society then you may see my point.
Look, the guy was found with 50 bags of heroin. I can find now compassion and Understanding for individuals how fund criminal activities which create more harm than good. This was ONE man, the funding of a drug industry effects many more. If you spend a little time time and look at the bigger context of what taking drugs actually does to society then you may see my point.
your point is so facile it is not worth concideration
Wakefield Turntables
04-02-2014, 10:17
your point is so facile it is not worth concideration
:laugh:
You must have considered it. Why did you bother replying?
Additionally I think I'm addressing the complexities of the issue rather than ignoring them.
I replied because your daily mail style comments need condemning
Wakefield Turntables
04-02-2014, 10:22
I'm apolitical. Next........
Hmmm, maybe sometimes if you don't have anything good to say, isn't it perhaps better to say nothing at all - especially when making judgements on people you have never met that are well liked and respected by countless others? It's sad when anyone dies young, no matter what the circumstances are.
Don't believe everything the media feeds you either.
Spectral Morn
04-02-2014, 12:12
Compassion and understanding costs nothing and yet it is not only good for the soul of the receiver but also for the souls of those who offer it. There will be a time in all our lives when we partake of things which do our bodies harm, this doesn't make us idiots, just human...
+2
I didn't recognise his name when I first heard about it but once I saw a news item the penny dropped re who he was and his body of work - certainly a fine actor and burgeoning director.
Frankly a death like this is just a huge waste but such is life - very sad.
Regards Neil
If heroin was available on prescription like it used to be then there would be no deaths from overdose (or anything else) and no drug dealers either.
Wakefield Turntables
04-02-2014, 13:35
If heroin was available on prescription like it used to be then there would be no deaths from overdose (or anything else) and no drug dealers either.
No! I think It would just breed a society of addicts.
Ninanina
04-02-2014, 16:27
Lose, not loose! :D
Ooops... terrible English :brickwall:
Haselsh1
04-02-2014, 16:45
If heroin was available on prescription like it used to be then there would be no deaths from overdose (or anything else) and no drug dealers either.
It is available on prescription as morphine but only if you are terminally ill.
Thing Fish
04-02-2014, 18:57
Life is full of adictive drugs. Alcohol, tobacco, sugar and coffee to name a few.
Life is full of adictive drugs. Alcohol, tobacco, sugar and coffee to name a few.
....hi-fi.....etc
Last movie I saw him in was "Performance" where he played second violin in a quartet. Good movie, very fine performance by him.
Hal55
No! I think It would just breed a society of addicts.
Heroin has been cheaply and easily available on the black market for many years and we don't have a society of addicts now; I don't see why that would change if it was made safely and legally available on a 'scrip - and the money saved on policing could be spent on rehabilitation instead.
Wakefield Turntables
05-02-2014, 13:30
d we don't have a society of addicts now; I don't see why that would change if it was made safely and legally available on a 'scrip - and the money saved on policing could be spent on rehabilitation instead.
Which utopian society do walk in?
It's a pragmatic solution. I doubt GPs would be inundated with people just wanting to give it a try. It is just the same system as was actually in place prior to 1969. nothing 'pie in the sky' about it. Even of it did create some more addicts at least they would be healthy and safe addicts.
It's a pragmatic solution. I doubt GPs would be inundated with people just wanting to give it a try. It is just the same system as was actually in place prior to 1969. nothing 'pie in the sky' about it. Even of it did create some more addicts at least they would be healthy and safe addicts.
Yep. Most 'drug-related crime' is, after all, addicts stealing to feed their illegal habit rather than drug-crazed loonies on the rampage (unless the drug is alcohol, of course).
Wakefield Turntables
05-02-2014, 16:39
At least they would be healthy and safe addicts.
There is no such thing. All drugs rob Peter to pay Paul, in other words they give and then they take away, this is the science known as pharmacodynamics. This is a very interesting science I know a lot about ;) So, you could say that initially addicts are healthy but eventually they become unhealthy and then die, just like Mr. Hoffman.
The novelist William Burroughs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Burroughs) used heroin most of his adult life and died at the age of 83.
There is no such thing. All drugs rob Peter to pay Paul, in other words they give and then they take away, this is the science known as pharmacodynamics. This is a very interesting science I know a lot about ;) So, you could say that initially addicts are healthy but eventually they become unhealthy and then die, just like Mr. Hoffman.
Your viewpoint is blinkered and if I may say rather outdated. There is a lot that can be done for addicts, its a treatable disease and old fashioned ideas about law enforcement, lock em' up or just dismissing them do not work. Martin's comments about legalising and helping addicts have proven to be effective and also economically viable compared to enforcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking all addicts are the same, as they most certainly are not.
The novelist William Burroughs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_S._Burroughs) used heroin most of his adult life and died at the age of 83.
Absolutely and managed to write some very good books
Your viewpoint is blinkered and if I may say rather outdated. There is a lot that can be done for addicts, its a treatable disease and old fashioned ideas about law enforcement, lock em' up or just dismissing them do not work. Martin's comments about legalising and helping addicts have proven to be effective and also economically viable compared to enforcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking all addicts are the same, as they most certainly are not.
+1
Wakefield Turntables
06-02-2014, 09:08
Your viewpoint is blinkered and if I may say rather outdated. There is a lot that can be done for addicts, its a treatable disease and old fashioned ideas about law enforcement, lock em' up or just dismissing them do not work. Martin's comments about legalising and helping addicts have proven to be effective and also economically viable compared to enforcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking all addicts are the same, as they most certainly are not.
+1
Sadly you have completely missed my point. :brickwall: I couldn't really couldn't give a $hit what you think about my opinion the guy was a junkie and wasted his life.
He was in Scent of a Woman with Al Pacino. That's pretty good going and better than anything I have ever managed. Yes he was a junkie, but there but for the grace of God....
Watch "Synecdoche,New York"
Avoid "The Master"
Only my opinion
I am no film addict for sure and I wouldn't have known Mr Hoffman from Bugs Bunny unless someone pointed him out.
I very rarely watch any television at all but I did see the other night a programme about the death of Anna Nicole Smith who died from a deadly cocktail of prescription drugs for depression and Chloral Hydrate. It just struck me that the poor girl suffered so much in the name of vanity and celebrity that she had to resort to these measures just to stay at the top of her game, or at least try to climb up after the vilification she got from the media over her marriage to a millionaire.
Perhaps Mr Hoffman had his own set of demons to fight and the drugs were only a small part of that terrible battle - we may never know, unless of course we share the same demons and need some "external strength" too to fight.
No! I think It would just breed a society of addicts.
Right, so explain why Portugal's drug abuse stats are down by half since they decriminalised all drugs? It's because they're no longer treated like criminals, but are treated like patients now! The "war on drugs" has been well and truly lost, a war that is completely hypocritical considering that tobacco and alcohol are way up there in terms of danger, with alcohol being the most dangerous drug of all.
Anyway, I bet a load of the music you love was recorded by guys off their faces on drugs, certainly Aleister Crowley in your avatar was a massive advocate of drug taking...
Back on topic, it's a massive shame that Philip Seymour Hoffman died of a drug overdose, but he shouldn't be judged for it, he just pushed things too far...
Wakefield Turntables
11-02-2014, 13:03
Anyway, I bet a load of the music you love was recorded by guys off their faces on drugs, certainly Aleister Crowley in your avatar was a massive advocate of drug taking...
Back on topic, it's a massive shame that Philip Seymour Hoffman died of a drug overdose, but he shouldn't be judged for it, he just pushed things too far...
1. Crowley never recorded any music.
2. "he just pushed things too far..." :lol: Like a needle in his arm by any chance.... :rfl:
1. Crowley never recorded any music.
2. "he just pushed things too far..." :lol: Like a needle in his arm by any chance.... :rfl:
I know he didn't record any music, but as he's in your avatar & an infamous taker of drugs...
Point still stands about the link between drugs & GOOD music. ;)
Very black humour on 2., got a chuckle...
I know he didn't record any music, but as he's in your avatar & an infamous taker of drugs...
...
That was in the 1920s though, before drugs were bad.
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