My New Toy - Not HiFi Related

[Ninanina]

As some may know I have been selling a few items to pay for my new toy/s........

Here is a pic of my very sexy looking toy, and mine will be arriving Thursday/Friday as the music store had to order in the exact finish, Sunburst, that I wanted:

[synsei]

Very nice Bev and in classic sunburst to boot, lovely ;)

[User211]

Well then learn this immediately, just like I have just done:D Ride - Leave Them All Behind (http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/ride-leave-them-all-behind-bass-tab-s16388t2)

Just select Distortion Guitar - Andy and hit play... loud:);)

Spotify - Leave Them All Behind (http://open.spotify.com/track/7ae2Lv8rdHjGXbrE2W1lCJ)

Very hard if your just learning I guess. Not too bad if you're not.

[John]

Nice what guitar amp will you be using
Are you learning or can you play

[Stratmangler]

The Classic Vibe Fenders are a lot of guitar for the money.
Enjoy :cool:

[Ninanina]

Thanks all.....

No I can't play yet, although I used to strum a bit when I was a little girly, ... I am taking lessons, had the first one last Thursday

Indeed it is a Classic Vibe. I short listed 3... Yamaha Pacifica 112v, Squier Vintage Modified and the Classic Vibe... Although I really know nothing about choosing a guitar really even I could tell the difference. The Pacifica gets such rave reviews everywhere I was quite convinced that that would be the best out of the 3 but I hated the feel of the neck, it felt like a baseball bat, it was horrid. Between the Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe there wasn't much to choose but the Classic Vibe just pipped it for its feel, which to me was a step above

I also purchased a Roland Micro Cube GX amp in a very fetching Red finish

Now I can't wait for the guitar to arrive.... then I can get practicing.... :D :guitar:

[Macca]

Cool guitar - I was looking at some in Manchester the other day. Must resist temptation as I have not played in years and was always a bit crap. Light gauge strings and set the action as low as possible is my advice - much easier to sound good that way :)

[Stratmangler]

The Micro Cube are pretty good too.
A friend has one, and I like it.

Macca's advice about having a lowish action is good - fighting a guitar with a high action is not a good idea, as you'll get all kinds of strain injuries, and you'll find the intonation poor further up the neck because of the mere fact that you've got to push the string further to meet the frets.
I set up my guitars so that the action is low but not buzzing, and put a heavier gauge set of strings on to give a little resistance to the fingers.
I don't use mega heavy strings, just a bog standard set of D'Addario EXL110s (10-46), and the guitars are in standard E tuning.
I'm thinking about setting up one of my Strats for E flat tuning (darker sounding overtones) and sticking on some EXL115s (11-49) on it.

[John]

Learning to play is a fascinating journey I wish you the best with it. The first few months are the hardest just stick with it and practise every day

[Canetoad]

I have a Strat in black. Damned if I am any good at playing it though? Still, I'll get back to it at some stage. :eyebrows:

[Ninanina]

Thanks for all the comments

When I pick the guitar up from the dealers I already had in mind for them to set it up properly for me, with the lowest action I can get away with

I can't wait for my new baby to arrive..... I think I'll call her 'my precious' :D

[User211]

Portsmouth hey? I was in a recording studio in Gosport a few months ago jamming with a member of Waking Charred - a Portsmouth local band.

Next essential is an acoustic - helps build up some strength in the hands due to the generally higher string tension. Plus they're just nice to own. Washburn J28SDL is lovely for the money if you fancy a jumbo.

[Stratmangler]

Thanks for all the comments

When I pick the guitar up from the dealers I already had in mind for them to set it up properly for me, with the lowest action I can get away with

I can't wait for my new baby to arrive..... I think I'll call her 'my precious' :D

Ask them if they can sort out the intonation too - factory setup will be rudimentary at best :eyebrows:

Three of my guitars have names.
My pride and joy is an American Deluxe Stratocaster finished in Olympic Pearl. It's name is Pearl.
My Candy Apple Red Mexican Stratocaster is known as Candy. As you can see, there's a theme, commonly known as stating the bleeding obvious ;)
My Squier Jazz Bass is known simply as JB :D

[Ninanina]

Super names Chris

Have you tried the Classic Vibe strat? if so what did you think of it?

[Stratmangler]

Super names Chris

Have you tried the Classic Vibe strat? if so what did you think of it?

Oddly enough I haven't tried a Classic Vibe Strat.
That said I rarely pick up Strats when I go into any music shops - I'm more into trying other things out.
I've got a Classic Vibe Telecaster (one like this (http://www.themusiczoo.com/images/12-01-10/6595_Squier_Classic_Vibe_Telecaster_Custom_3_Tone_ Sunburst_CGS1013489_1.jpg) little Minx), which I think is great - it plays well and it sounds wonderful.

I've also tried the 50's reminiscent models (the Butterscotch Blonde, and the White Blonde), and again they're beautiful playing and sounding instruments. Interestingly the bodies of both of these guitars is made from pine (normally you're going to get Ash, Alder, or Basswood).

The CV Strats will be very much in the same mould as the Teles - really nice guitars that feel good and play well, and they'll sound good too, as the pickups use alnico magnets.
If I'm not mistaken the CV guitars are made in the same Chinese factory as makes the "Player" Strats, and they're really good too.

[keiths]

Very nice Bev. It's really worth getting a professional set up done. I'd rather have a cheap guitar properly set up than an expensive one badly set up.

[Oldpinkman]

Very nice Bev. It's really worth getting a professional set up done. I'd rather have a cheap guitar properly set up than an expensive one badly set up.

+1 although more so for an acoustic. But a good setup makes a guitar so much easier to play. Especially if you have weedy weak fingers like me ;)

[Macca]

Very nice Bev. It's really worth getting a professional set up done. I'd rather have a cheap guitar properly set up than an expensive one badly set up.

Yes, but the difference is that a cheap guitar doesn't stay well set up for long. I had a pal who was a guitar tech in the eighties for some poodle metal bands ( anyone remember Man O' War?) and he set up my Columbus Les Paul copy for me, took him hours -afterwards it played like a real Les Paul - for about a day, then quickly became rubbish again.

[Oldpinkman]

Yes, but the difference is that a cheap guitar doesn't stay well set up for long. I had a pal who was a guitar tech in the eighties for some poodle metal bands ( anyone remember Man O' War?) and he set up my Columbus Les Paul copy for me, took him hours -afterwards it played like a real Les Paul - for about a day, then quickly became rubbish again.

OK. That's going to depend a bit on the guitar. A set up won't change its "sound" - especially an acoustic. You can change pickups on electrics (probably switches, valves, direction of resistors all sorts for all I know). Good tuners hold tune better than cheap ones. I had a Moondog Grand Auditorium (lovely guitar of its type) which had first the bridge unglue, and then all the internal bracing. Seems the Chinese were a bit mean with the glue. All were professionally repaired.

But I have had 5 acoustics, 3 of them cheap bangers (for the kids), set up professionaly by my local tech, and with the exception of the unglueing of the Moondog they have all held their set-up long term. They don't sound as pretty as my Guild, - that can't be changed by a set-up, but they stay very playable (when the kids bother to replace strings - the number of times I have visited at uni and picked up a 5 string guitar - don't start me...) :steam:

[Oldpinkman]

A further thought - not so much with a Les Paul copy, but a strat like Bev's - if you change string tension you are going to change the set-up - especially with a tremolo. I can remember constantly retuning my guitar after going up a guage until I realised I needed to adjust the tremolo spring for the increased string tension (worse on mine since I have a Floyd Rose). This of course applies in theory with even an acoustic, which could need a truss rod adjustment, but in practice I have found I can make modest changes in string types without affecting the setup.

If you are getting a setup done, make sure it includes a fret-dress. :)

[Macca]

OK. That's going to depend a bit on the guitar. A set up won't change its "sound" - especially an acoustic. :

Yep, I wasn't talking about how it sounded just that it played an awful lot better. As for acoustic guitars I have no idea, although I learnt to play on a very cheap acoustic. The Columbus is a lovely looking guitar but a cheapy. I once inquired about having it totally rebuilt and was told it wasn't worth the bother. I've also got a Stag telecaster copy I bought new direct off the importer for a very low price but I don't like how that plays at all. Not that it matters as I am crap but I do have friends with immense guitar collections and there is no question that the better the guitar the easier it is to play. As for guitars sounding different depending on the type of wood the body and the neck are made from I think that is the musician's equivalent of audiophilia nervosa myself ;)

[twickers]

Yes, but the difference is that a cheap guitar doesn't stay well set up for long. I had a pal who was a guitar tech in the eighties for some poodle metal bands ( anyone remember Man O' War?) and he set up my Columbus Les Paul copy for me, took him hours -afterwards it played like a real Les Paul - for about a day, then quickly became rubbish again.

Didn't experience that myself. I had a Squire strat from the late eighties professionally set-up by a guitar tech ( recommended by Andy Sneap); played great for years. In fact i kept it even when other guitars came and went over the years.

I remember Man 0' war. They were really cheesy, even for a metal band. ;)

[Gordon Steadman]

As for guitars sounding different depending on the type of wood the body and the neck are made from I think that is the musician's equivalent of audiophilia nervosa myself ;)

Nope. Every piece of wood sounds different, even each piece of the same species. There is actually some science behind these differences:eyebrows:

[Tim]

Nope. Every piece of wood sounds different, even each piece of the same species. There is actually some science behind these differences:eyebrows:
Haha, finally something we agree on Gordon ;)

[Gordon Steadman]

Haha, finally something we agree on Gordon ;)

Had to happen some time:lol:

[Oldpinkman]

Nope. Every piece of wood sounds different, even each piece of the same species. There is actually some science behind these differences:eyebrows:

Oh for sure, with knobs on. Not sure I am aware of it so much on electrics (although Joe, in my avatar is - he fusses about the paint on the finish) but acoustics.

Join me at Guitar village in Surrey Martin and listen to a Maton Messiah. Never mind you can't play them, it sounds better when you just bang it on the floor putting it down too heavily! :eek:

[Ninanina]

Thanks for all your guidance on set up etc, much appreciated

I think mine is arriving either tomorrow or Friday sometime, I can't wait.... :D

[John]

Yep, I wasn't talking about how it sounded just that it played an awful lot better. As for acoustic guitars I have no idea, although I learnt to play on a very cheap acoustic. The Columbus is a lovely looking guitar but a cheapy. I once inquired about having it totally rebuilt and was told it wasn't worth the bother. I've also got a Stag telecaster copy I bought new direct off the importer for a very low price but I don't like how that plays at all. Not that it matters as I am crap but I do have friends with immense guitar collections and there is no question that the better the guitar the easier it is to play. As for guitars sounding different depending on the type of wood the body and the neck are made from I think that is the musician's equivalent of audiophilia nervosa myself ;)
You need to read Eric Johnson views sometime and yes different guitars have different strengths A Les Paul sounds very different to a Strat

[John]

I remember Man of War gosh they were so bad they were funny

[The Black Adder]

Nice Axe... You need a decent practice amp now... Maybe a Marshal stack.. Heheheh! - Make the neighbors teeth rattle

[julesd68]

I had a pal who was a guitar tech in the eighties for some poodle metal bands ( anyone remember Man O' War?)

Yes I remember them very well. Not what I would call a poodle metal band though - as a metal obsessed teenager I saw them twice at the Manchester Apollo back in the early 80's. They were supposedly the loudest band in the world at the time and I remember having to duck down behind the seat in front of me to get relief from the decibels ... :eek:

http://ximmix.mixeriksson.com/bilder/manowar_hail_to_england_1500x1491px_110220150520_2 _th.jpg

[Ninanina]

Nice Axe... You need a decent practice amp now... Maybe a Marshal stack.. Heheheh! - Make the neighbors teeth rattle

Hi Joe
I have purchased a Roland Micro Cube in a rather fetching Red finish

I've read good things about it and it's the one I tried at the music shop

It's so cute too...

[Oldpinkman]

Hi Joe
I have purchased a Roland Micro Cube in a rather fetching Red finish

I've read good things about it and it's the one I tried at the music shop

It's so cute too...
The great thing about an electric, as I regularly reminded the kids before we built a soundproof studio, is you can play on headphones. Get a £20 2nd hand korg pandora, and you get a basic drum machine, reasonable effects,you can mix in backing tracks from your phone, and you can play on the beach (ok the sunbed outside the caravan) :cool:

[julesd68]

Must take a pic of my lovely 1977 Strat, which I still can't play ... :(

[Stratmangler]

Must take a pic of my lovely 1977 Strat, which I still can't play ... :(

Still saving up for lessons?

yaTnO2Mh-fk

[Ninanina]

Great post Chris, thanks ;)

There seems to be quite a few YouTube vids to help, as well as my lessons, of which I had my second one today, great fun

Now I just need a guitar, I really hope it arrives tomorrow at the dealers.... :D

[Jonboy]

my mum bought me a ukulele for my birthday i might have a chance of learning to play that as it only has four strings,

[Oldpinkman]

my mum bought me a ukulele for my birthday i might have a chance of learning to play that as it only has four strings,

Aaagh! Harry has one. If I hear "over the rainbow" one more time...:doh:

[John]

If you want I got a few old guitar books you can have

[Ninanina]

If you want I got a few old guitar books you can have

Hi John
Was that aimed at me? ooops sorry if it wasn't

If it was that would be super

Let me know

Cheers
Bev

[keiths]

Aaagh! Harry has one. If I hear "over the rainbow" one more time...:doh:

LOL I like playing George Formby's 'The Window Cleaner' on mine...

[Mr Kipling]

Love me Tanglewood TW 68 John Lennon Rickenbacker 325 copy.

Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it.

LOVE IT!!

Just wish I could play better.

[julesd68]

Still saving up for lessons?

My mind is always on other things ...

Here's my baby -

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/11237282513_1cbb5eddf5_z.jpg

[Oldpinkman]

LOL I like playing George Formby's 'The Window Cleaner' on mine...

Sue has just bought 30 for her school, so she can use them to teach a whole class at a time. They are the 21st century "recorder" as the easy instrument all the kids can play. Many of the local schools have ukelele choirs now. There will be one performing almost certainly tomorrow night at our villages Christmas street fair.

Bloody things! :D

[Ninanina]

I still haven't received my new toy

I hopefully will in the next couple of days.... I am being really patient

[Oldpinkman]

I still haven't received my new toy

I hopefully will in the next couple of days.... I am being really patient

Bummer. Worse than waiting for santa when you're 6!

[Ninanina]

I now have my new toy...... :D:D

Will be trying it out tonight...... :guitar:

[Marco]

Ha - I could say plenty there but I won't! :eyebrows:

Marco.

[Ninanina]

Ha - I could say plenty there but I won't! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Oh go on.... be a devil...... :lol:

[Marco]

I can't - I'm too shy....

Marco.

[Ninanina]

I can't - I'm too shy....

Marco.


Oooooo come one..... I know you can do it.... :D:D

[Stratmangler]

Have you played with your wang yet? :eyebrows:

[Stratmangler]

To clarify on the wang thang http://iheartguitarblog.com/2012/03/a-guitarist-answers-whats-that-stick-thing-you-see-on-guitars-sometimes.html#more-5755

[User211]

One of my Gibsons:

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/User_211/SDC13392.jpg

But here's the best bit - the certificate - read it - always makes me smile:)

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/User_211/SDC13396.jpg

[Ninanina]

Have you played with your wang yet? :eyebrows:

Well I've tried to but I'm finding it a bit tricky, I'm finding it much more difficult to play than the one my teacher has been letting me borrow for the first couple of lessons... :(

[User211]

Well I've tried to but I'm finding it a bit tricky, I'm finding it much more difficult to play than the one my teacher has been letting me borrow for the first couple of lessons... :(

Is the action higher?

[Stratmangler]

Did the shop set it up or is it straight out of the box?
The setup on my American Deluxe Stratocaster left a bit to be desired, and I know that the Squier factory setup is not the best.

[Ninanina]

The shop set it up

If anything I would say the action is lower than the guitar I've been using from the teacher

[Stratmangler]

I'd be inclined to ask your tutor for an opinion on the setup, relative to the guitar you have been using.
Maybe your tutor can help with adjusting things too.

[Ninanina]

I'd be inclined to ask your tutor for an opinion on the setup, relative to the guitar you have been using.
Maybe your tutor can help with adjusting things too.

Thanks Chris
Yes I'll get him to take a look on Thursday.... my fingers are hurting so it must be a good sign....

[Stratmangler]

One of my Gibsons:

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/User_211/SDC13392.jpg

But here's the best bit - the certificate - read it - always makes me smile:)

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g436/User_211/SDC13396.jpg

That's a beauty for sure.
How does she sound?

[Stratmangler]

Thanks Chris
Yes I'll get him to take a look on Thursday.... my fingers are hurting so it must be a good sign....

Fingers sore?
It's good as long as you're not having to wrestle the guitar in the first place.
I'm fairly sure that the setup on your guitar is not too far from ideal, and just needs a little bit of tweaking.

[Oldpinkman]

Well I've tried to but I'm finding it a bit tricky, I'm finding it much more difficult to play than the one my teacher has been letting me borrow for the first couple of lessons... :(

Bev - don't let them muddle you with wrong terminology. The correct name is a "twanger" or as I not infrequently call it "that plucking instrument"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=28e_1351077259

:ner:

A good set up (about £60) is always value, and is not routinely done well by shops (pretty much the only other thing making it hard to play would be string guage). Actually, on the subject of strings, my mate Joe got me into elixirs and I recommend you at least try them. Opinions are sharply divided on them, but I've never had one snap on me, and Joe considers them robust and uses them professionally

Richard :)

[Stratmangler]

The Elixirs aren't bad strings at all but they're bloody expensive.
I generally use D'Addario strings, and get a 3 set pack for the cost of 1 set of Elixirs.
I rarely snap strings, and I do some pretty hefty string bending.
The only time I've snapped strings was because I've been too lazy to change old strings sooner - if you snap them frequently it's due to a problem with the guitar.

http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/p/911595/daddario-exl110-3d-nickel-wound-electric-10-46-regular-light-3-pack/

[Oldpinkman]

The Elixirs aren't bad strings at all but they're bloody expensive.
I generally use D'Addario strings, and get a 3 set pack for the cost of 1 set of Elixirs.
I rarely snap strings, and I do some pretty hefty string bending.
The only time I've snapped strings was because I've been too lazy to change old strings sooner - if you snap them frequently it's due to a problem with the guitar.

http://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/p/911595/daddario-exl110-3d-nickel-wound-electric-10-46-regular-light-3-pack/

Tell that to "slow hand" - I don't break em either but I'm a woos and very gentle. They are a bit expensive - but the claim is they last 3 times as long! I find them a bit easier on the fingers, and like I said, I'm a woos. :)

[Ninanina]

Richard, thanks for the funny link.....

I will let my tutor have a play of the guitar tomorrow and see what he thinks of it. I've practiced again tonight and it doesn't seem quite so bad so maybe me fingers are get getting used to it... :guitar:

I guess the most important thing is I'm really enjoying the new experience :D:D

[Ninanina]

Justin
That looks yummy

I may buy an acoustic at some stage

I have one that is literally falling to bits that I had as a kid... it's really fit for the bin but it's part of my childhood so it will never be thrown

[Stratmangler]

I don't have any expensive acoustics - they're both inexpensive Yamahas.
You could do a lot worse than one of these http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/el-ac-guitars/fx/fx370c/ - they're a lot of very playable guitar for the money.

[Ninanina]

Chris thanks so much for the link

I won't be buying anything in the next little while

My tutor tried my Classic Vibe Strat and loved it, no problem at all..... So that means it must be ok as I trust him

Am I right in saying that guitars multiply like hifi amps, cd players, etc ? :D

[Stratmangler]

Am I right in saying that guitars multiply like hifi amps, cd players, etc ? :D

Oh no, not like that!
It's much, much worse than that ;)
Current arsenal is 4 Strats (well 1 is in bits - I'll put it all back together one day), 1 Squier CV Tele, 1 Epiphone SG400, 1 Epiphone ES-339, 1 Squier CV Jazz Bass, 2 Yamaha acoustics.

I'm not surprised to hear that your tutor thinks your Strat is rather good - I've been impressed with all of the CV Squier guitars I've had a go on :cool:

[Ninanina]

Oh no, not like that!
It's much, much worse than that ;)


Oh dear Chris I think I may already have the bug..... :doh: everywhere I go all I see is guitars..... I don't normally go into the likes of Cash Converters/Cash Generators etc, but I've already found myself wondering into them just to see what they got!!.... :mental::mental:

Whats the cure??

[Stratmangler]

Whats the cure??

The knowledge that the guys at Cash Converters don't know their arse from their elbow.
I've just been looking at a Mexican 70s Strat in Plymouth, and they're asking £500.00 for it.
They're around £580.00 new, and that's from a place where they can give you proper warranty support.

I can imagine the looks you'd get at CC asking for them to do a proper setup for you :eyebrows: :mental:

[Ninanina]

Has anyone any experience of the Mexican Standard Strat, which retails for about £410? compared to the Classic Vibe 50's (Squier) if so what was it like?

[Macca]

You have got it bad. I sympathise, in fact this thread has started me thinking about getting a new guitar and resuming my piss-poor plank spanking. Thing is guitars, like hi-fi, watches and cigars is one of those things were as soon as you start scratching the surface you start to realise how deep the rabbit-hole goes ;)

Learn to play first. When you can play like the ghost of Hendrix himself, then worry about the guitar. A good player - and I am far from it- can make the crappiest guitar sound like the best thing ever. FWIW and IMO the best guitars are the custom made jobbies, but unless you have connections you won't get one cheap.

[Oldpinkman]

You have got it bad. I sympathise, in fact this thread has started me thinking about getting a new guitar and resuming my piss-poor plank spanking. Thing is guitars, like hi-fi, watches and cigars is one of those things were as soon as you start scratching the surface you start to realise how deep the rabbit-hole goes ;)

Learn to play first. When you can play like the ghost of Hendrix himself, then worry about the guitar. A good player - and I am far from it- can make the crappiest guitar sound like the best thing ever. FWIW and IMO the best guitars are the custom made jobbies, but unless you have connections you won't get one cheap.

+1 with the proviso that particularly for an acoustic a good setup is essential. The bloody things are hard enough to play as it is without making it harder from a poor setup. I am a shocker for buying a shinier new toy to improve my guitar playing, when time after time I prove to myself that half an hours practice is far more effective. My mate Joe, an exceptional professional, who gives me occaisional lessons emphasises the point. He may well have talent. But added to that he has a guitar in has hands on average 5 hours a day, and has since he was 14. He can pick up the crappiest cheap stagg strat copy and make it sing (I know - last lesson I had was at the music school where he teaches and he did just that):)

That said, even though my guitar playing, both in quality and quantity is hopelessly below the level that in any sane way justifies it, I think it unlikely I will make it to the grave without getting myself a Maton Messiah. Just to put on the wall ;)

[Stratmangler]

I've held off answering this one just to see if anyone else replied.
Both Martin and Richard's advice is excellent.

My main Strat for many years was a MIM Standard from '93/'94 - I bought it second hand around about '95/'96, as its previous owner had decided he was never going to make it sing like Hank.
The MIMs are good, but there are economies made.

The recent Squier stuff is made in China, and they've managed to get the CNC machining spot on.
They're also fitting decent quality pickups with alnico pole pieces.
The only place they seem to fall down slightly is that the hardware quality is not as good and solid feeling as that on the American models (this is also the same with the MIM models), but in truth the hardware is more than adequate.

[Macca]

I used to muck about with my mum's old acoustic, a very cheap one she had bought from a catalogue and then later replaced with an Aria or something. The neighbour's sons, who were all accomplishd musos took pity on me and gave me a black les paul copy, forget what but very cheap and nasty and an old Woolco amp. I bought a copy of The Complete Guitar Handbook that was on sale cheap in the basement of Blackler's department store in Great Charlotte St in Liverpool. Don't look for it, it's not there any more. I learnt the major and minor chords and the pentatonic scale. after months of practice I was still crap but blamed it on the guitar but I could not afford to buy a better one so lost interest. One of my brothers who was a very accomplished pianist and violinist but who had never picked up a guitar in his life borrowed it off me. Within two days, and I am not exaggerating here, he could play like a professional.

Talent. You can't buy it.

[pwood]

Cure!! There is no cure for GAS its a medical condition much ignored by the NHS. Guitar acquisition syndrome leads to hours looking at guitarguitar or anderson websites or similar. I recently rediscovered my love of playing and got out my Strat plus. Now a year and a half later.....have a few more. I got a Yamaha silent guitar (http://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/silentguitars/) nylon string a couple of weeks ago and using my headphones its stunning. Can play at all hours of the night downstairs :D

If your tremolo is floating consider getting its blocked off or add two springs to place it hard against the body. Unless you have locking tuners a graphtec nut and saddles the guitar will likely go out of tune very easily unless you have a tame guitar tech to hand. Wipe strings down after each session and they should last longer. Elixirs cost more but last longer than the price difference in my opinion however there are other coated strings out there which I havent tried yet.

[Macca]

I visited this place with a guitar-mad friend last time I was in Las Vegas. It is the size of a B&Q and only sells guitars (and a few amps). Lots to drool over on the website too:

http://edroman.com/

[Ninanina]

Within two days, and I am not exaggerating here, he could play like a professional. Talent. You can't buy it.

Don't some people make you sick..!! a very nice skill to have ;)

I have today exchanged my Squier Classic Vibe for the Fender Strat MIM. I had a couple of issues with the Squier and decided to take a peek at the MIM while I was in the shop. I immediately gelled with the MIM. The neck seems a little bit smaller and more manageable, I've only got little girly hands after all. It isn't quite the handful I found the Squier to be

I would say the finish isn't quite as good as the Squier but everything else about it I prefer; it's definitely more playable to me than the Squier. Ok it was a little bit more expensive but I've been saving up so it's my Christmas pressie to myself

It's still in a beautiful Brown Sunburst finish, again a bit more expensive but it looks lovely...... It's my precious :guitar:

[Gordon Steadman]

Cure!! There is no cure for GAS its a medical condition much ignored by the NHS. Guitar acquisition syndrome leads to hours looking at guitarguitar or anderson websites or similar.

Nah.....if I want a new one I just make one:lol:

[pwood]

Nah.....if I want a new one I just make one:lol:

PICS?

[Gordon Steadman]

PICS?

For some reason Flickr isn't accepting pics at the mo!! I didn't make the mandolin, just rebuilt it. My avatar is my guitar label of course.

[pwood]

Nice.

[Ninanina]

How yummy......

I may add an acoustic some day..... I fear guitars may well be worse for multiplying than hifi :stalks:

[Oldpinkman]

And you were planning to let me loose on one of them axes gordon? I'd poo me pants :eek:

[Ninanina]

I have a quick question...... why are they called axes??

I have a little baby Stratocaster model coming for Christmas...... how sad am I??... no don't answer that.... :D

[Gordon Steadman]

I have a quick question...... why are they called axes??

This appears to be a reasonable explanation!!


This is old jazz usage that began with saxophone and other horn players. It may be from the sound of the word "sax," or from the player "swinging." From there any musical instrument became an axe. "Chops" is from use of the jaw and lips to play those instruments. It takes strong "chops" to make a good embouchure. That jazz slang also was extended to other instruments, probably in the 1950's. The reference of "chops" to lips is old--it predates jazz by a long way.
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[Gordon Steadman]

And you were planning to let me loose on one of them axes gordon? I'd poo me pants :eek:

No probs. We'll lay in some suitable absorbent material. I have thin surgical gloves you can wear to keep the nasty fingermarks off too.

They are, of course, just guitars. Their function in life is to be played. I admit that they are also part of the decorations in the bedroom as it looks a bit flash and pretends that there is a musician in the house. Sort of hi-fi willy waving equivalent:lol:

[Oldpinkman]

OK

Since everybody else seems to be shamelessly displaying their twanger on Bev's thread, I'm going to show you mine!:D


http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/t582/oldpinkman/washburn_zps32e8d3c8.jpg (http://s1315.photobucket.com/user/oldpinkman/media/washburn_zps32e8d3c8.jpg.html)


I get a lot of pleasure playing with it (I'm not sure many share that pleasure, but I enjoy it)

:cool:

[Ninanina]

everybody else seems to be shamelessly displaying their twanger on Bev's thread, I'm going to show you mine!:D
:cool:

Keep the twanger pics coming, love to see them. I'll take a pic of my new 'precious' and post it up :D

[The Grand Wazoo]

Copied from a post on another AoS thread....

My wife's rare and rather beautiful 9 string Moridaira:

http://imageshack.us/a/img12/4690/acousticu.jpg

.....and my rather more prosaic left handed Epiphone Sheraton

http://imageshack.us/a/img577/7430/semiacoustic.jpg

[Ninanina]

Well, I've now had QC problems with both the Squier Strat and the Mexican Strat. The Squier had a very scratchy sounding 5 way switch and a buzzy 6th string, and the Mexican had a faulty jack socket which made a nasty noise through the amp if 'breathed' on or the cable moved slightly

I took the Mexican Strat back to the shop and while I was there had a bit of a play on the American Standard Strat, oh dear.... :doh: I really shouldn't have tried the American as I fell in love with the way it played

So my final Strat is the American Standard which is now on order, a lovely 3 Colour Sunburst of course

I just have a few more things to sell to try and raise the extra money, but I really can't wait for the guitar to arrive :D

[Oldpinkman]

Well, I've now had QC problems with both the Squier Strat and the Mexican Strat. The Squier had a very scratchy sounding 5 way switch and a buzzy 6th string, and the Mexican had a faulty jack socket which made a nasty noise through the amp if 'breathed' on or the cable moved slightly

I took the Mexican Strat back to the shop and while I was there had a bit of a play on the American Standard Strat, oh dear.... :doh: I really shouldn't have tried the American as I fell in love with the way it played

So my final Strat is the American Standard which is now on order, a lovely 3 Colour Sunburst of course

I just have a few more things to sell to try and raise the extra money, but I really can't wait for the guitar to arrive :D

I think that may break a few records. I thought I was bad but that is a whole other league. Nearest I came was when I went to guitar village really to try better under saddle pickups and ended up playing the messiah with sue saying "that is your guitar" and I walked away :doh:
Of course, her singing had silenced the place which is always a trifle embarrassing :eek:

[Ninanina]

I know it's just madness :doh:

[Ninanina]

Has anyone else compared the Squiers to the Mex to the American Stats?? I was totally blown away by the American version, and I'm new to all this..:D

[Ninanina]

Here are a couple of pics of my miniature Strat I got for Christmas.... It's pretty much exactly the same as the full size I have on order... I just can't wait to get it.... sad but true.... !!!:D:D

[twickers]

Has anyone else compared the Squiers to the Mex to the American Stats?? I was totally blown away by the American version, and I'm new to all this..:D

Not surprising as the Californian made one's are the highest quality;). Although i've owned both mexican and squier strats with good results. The squier strats in particular, when set-up properly, are great value IMO.

[Ninanina]

Paul
I would agree that the Squier Classic Vibe is terrific value for money, but as soon as you try the American Strat it is simply better..... I just have to sell a few bits and pieces to try and raise the extra funds..... :rolleyes:

[lurcher]

It all sounds great, enjoy, I am thinking about an American standard sometime this year. But dont let yourself get caught up in the "I can't play X because the guitar/amp/pedal/pick/etc is not the right one", The truth is you can't play X because you have not practised enough. Sad but true, there is no substitute for hours in the shed. But if you have a tutor, he/she will help protect you from that guitarist disease. We all have done it.

Edit: I hope this doesnt come over as negative and naggy, its not meant to be, its huge fun playing, you can't beat it, but this is one area where you get out what you put in (well, you get out much more, but you have to put in). One of the great things is to start to lean something, and be convinced that there is no way you will get your fingers around it, a few hours of work (over a few days) and it starts to come together, and then you can do something you could not a few weeks ago. wonderful feeling.

Best bit of advice I had was "practice what you want to play". I am guessing you dont intend to get work as a session player, so put the hours into what you want to play. Want to play blues?, Practice the pentatonic scale, not the lydian diminished.

[Ninanina]

It all sounds great, enjoy, I am thinking about an American standard sometime this year. But dont let yourself get caught up in the "I can't play X because the guitar/amp/pedal/pick/etc is not the right one", The truth is you can't play X because you have not practised enough. Sad but true, there is no substitute for hours in the shed. But if you have a tutor, he/she will help protect you from that guitarist disease. We all have done it.

Nick
I am quite sure you are totally correct, BUT when you try an American there is NO going back to either the Mex or the Squier.... sorry but the American really is that good, honestly.... I wished that the Squier and/or the Mex would be ok/good but really there is no comparison to the American Original version.... it's just like hifi..... the more you pay the better you get....... generally that is....

[lurcher]

Nick
I am quite sure you are totally correct, BUT when you try an American there is NO going back to either the Mex or the Squier.... sorry but the American really is that good, honestly.... I wished that the Squier and/or the Mex would be ok/good but really there is no comparison to the American Original version.... it's just like hifi..... the more you pay the better you get....... generally that is....

Oh no, I agree, the Cali guitars are great, no question. My point (which is entirely from sad experience) is don't let GAS get in the way of putting in the hours. I bought a 2004 Nashville ES335 last year, and I love it greatly, but I still spend most of my playing time on the Mex HSS Strat. As I said, I have a eye on an American later this year, but I dont expect it to improve my playing. Likewise, the advice to get it set up right, is all very good and true, but as long as the intonation is correct, and the action is within the Fender spec (should say what it is in the owners manual) then the limitation will be the player not the guitar. Too low action can be as big a problem as too high, especially is you are playing a style that involves a lot of tone, or tone and a half bends (or more if you are into Albert King). But never underestimate the importance of bonding with the guitar, so playing something you love will count for a lot, if only because you will be happy putting the hours in.

[Ninanina]

Nick
You are totally correct in saying it is the player and not the guitar but when you try the best (kind of!!) there is no going back

I know I need to practice and practice but it's important to me, and others I guess, to have the very best guitar possible.... I WANT to pick this guitar up and practice, practice, practice..... Knowing this is the very best tool I can buy...

I hope that makes sense..... Seriously I never intended to buy such an expensive tool but it really was that good once I picked it up

I can't wait to get it :D

[Ninanina]

Well my new beauty has arrived.... what a lovely thing she is.. I could lick her all over... ooops... :D:D

[twickers]

What are you doing on here then? You should be playing it until your fingers BLEED!!!

It's the only way;)

[Ninanina]

What are you doing on here then? You should be playing it until your fingers BLEED!!!

It's the only way;)

Paul you are quite right, but I've got a few chores to finish before starting on it :guitar:

[Stratmangler]

Well my new beauty has arrived.... what a lovely thing she is.. I could lick her all over... ooops... :D:D

Don't do that, you'll make the metal bits go all rusty :eyebrows:

[Ninanina]

Don't do that, you'll make the metal bits go all rusty :eyebrows:


That true nuff.... I'll refrain from doing that.. I've had her out and done a bit of practicing and it really does play very well indeed. I got a really nice case with it as well, it's not the normal ABS case it looks just like the Pro Series one, black with black furry interior, I'm well impressed

:D:D

[The Grand Wazoo]

Well, what about some piccies? Where is it then?
I've shown you mine - now it's time to show me yours!
(To quote a different thread)

[Ninanina]

Well, what about some piccies? Where is it then?
I've shown you mine - now it's time to show me yours!
(To quote a different thread)

Here are a few of her.... please excuse the messy cables behind....

[Ninanina]

My last lesson was barre chords.... Oh my goodness me they are soooo tricky... Any tips anyone can give would be much appreciated... other chords no problem but barre chords... nightmare :guitar:

[Thing Fish]

just stick with it Bev. I taught guitar for years and there are no short cuts.
Just keep playing and over time it all becomes easier. Trust me...lol

When I learned as a 10 year old it was never a chore as I just had to keep going. It was like a drug to me.

Strange thing is that I played in a few successful local bands for 14 years and just stopped in 2004.

I have never played (or wanted to) since. with the exception of a few lessons from people begging me...:)

[Oldpinkman]

My last lesson was barre chords.... Oh my goodness me they are soooo tricky... Any tips anyone can give would be much appreciated... other chords no problem but barre chords... nightmare :guitar:

They are for everyone. Then they become easy. Little and often is best. Practice some things you can play as well as some you can't. Don't keep straining at something - it just hurts, sounds worse, frustrates and convinces you you can't do it. Have a look at Justin sandercoe again and play some of his hundreds of no Barre chord songs. As the world's most crap learner I blamed small weak hands for not being able to play Katie media "closest thing to crazy" for sue (and lambasted Mike batt for writing so much in the key of e) till I realised she played it herself and she is a tiny weedy girlie. You'll toughen up:)

[Oldpinkman]

My last lesson was barre chords.... Oh my goodness me they are soooo tricky... Any tips anyone can give would be much appreciated... other chords no problem but barre chords... nightmare :guitar:

They are for everyone. Then they become easy. Little and often is best. Practice some things you can play as well as some you can't. Don't keep straining at something - it just hurts, sounds worse, frustrates and convinces you you can't do it. Have a look at Justin sandercoe again and play some of his hundreds of no Barre chord songs. As the world's most crap learner I blamed small weak hands for not being able to play Katie media "closest thing to crazy" for sue (and lambasted Mike batt for writing so much in the key of e) till I realised she played it herself and she is a tiny weedy girlie. You'll toughen up:)

[Stratmangler]

My only tip is to try playing 1st position E and A minor chords without using your first finger.
Then slide then up 1 fret and lay your 1st finger across the strings at the 1st fret. Your chords will now have become F and B flat minor respectively.
You'll find you can slide those shapes all the way up the neck.

Hand strength and flexibility will come only with time and practise - unfortunately there's no shortcut or substitute for practise.

[Oldpinkman]

I'm assuming its the physical pain aspect, and muffled strings, that bother you. Using an electric with a good action and light strings to start with is easier than an acoustic - but you are doing that now. The other tip is to use a capo at the 3rd fret and practice bar chords at the 5th and 7th fret. The fret spacings are still fairly manageable even for fat fingers there, and the pressure needed to get a barre is much less away from the nut. Bflat at the first fret must be the toughest chord because the pressure needed and finger stretch is greatest. So practice A (5th fret "E shape") and D minor 5th fret "Am shape") first. You'll get there - we all do, subject to our physical limitations. I am never going to make some of the stretches Al de Miola can manage! :)

[Gordon Steadman]

I always reckon that one of the most important parts of the guitar makers job is to make the thing easy to play. If its set up right, it should require no effort to hold the strings down, just a light touch should be all that is required.

If it were me, I would definitely start on a nylon stringed acoustic. Constant practice will harden up the tops of the fingers slowly and because the strings are kinder in general, the barre will become easier too.

I have to support the view that constant practice is the only way. Definitely start in small sessions and work up. Unless you are intending to take over the world as the next guitar hero, its supposed to be for fun so there should be no pressure to become an overnight sensation.

I haven't played regularly for twenty years. I picked up a guitar last week and whilst the fingers sort of remember where to go, it was obvious that there is a lot of muscle memory to reclaim. Only time will achieve that, maybe now I'm semi-retired I'll find some.

[Oldpinkman]

I always reckon that one of the most important parts of the guitar makers job is to make the thing easy to play. If its set up right, it should require no effort to hold the strings down, just a light touch should be all that is required.

If it were me, I would definitely start on a nylon stringed acoustic. Constant practice will harden up the tops of the fingers slowly and because the strings are kinder in general, the barre will become easier too.

I have to support the view that constant practice is the only way. Definitely start in small sessions and work up. Unless you are intending to take over the world as the next guitar hero, its supposed to be for fun so there should be no pressure to become an overnight sensation.

I haven't played regularly for twenty years. I picked up a guitar last week and whilst the fingers sort of remember where to go, it was obvious that there is a lot of muscle memory to reclaim. Only time will achieve that, maybe now I'm semi-retired I'll find some.

When you building me a guitar Gordon? Bloody Bev's got me planning a trip to Guitar village in February to see if I can walk out without a Maton Messiah twice. I have the action on my guitars set limbo low at the nut, but its still tougher than fretting higher up. Nylon strung acoustics are certainly easier than steel strings in that respect, and I note Katie Melua used a nylon string on the accompaniment I transcribed. Still a lot of jumps to B major though since its written in E. However, having arranged "I dreamed a dream" for the Mrs, frankly "Closest thing to crazy" is a stroll in the park.

For sure build up slow, remember its fun, and practice a variety of things rather than slog away at something not working and getting worse as you get sore. :cool:

[Ninanina]

Bloody Bev's got me planning a trip to Guitar village in February

Ooops sorry about that Richard ..... he he he

Thanks all for your support, yes I'm still really enjoying it which is the most important bit but I think these barre chords are a big step forward... :guitar:

[twickers]

My last lesson was barre chords.... Oh my goodness me they are soooo tricky... Any tips anyone can give would be much appreciated... other chords no problem but barre chords... nightmare :guitar:

Try fretting the barre chords further up the neck. It's always harder nearer the nut. Also some people find a 'sweet spot' when positioning their elbow closer to their body. Worth a try. It just takes time to build strength, motor skills etc.

[Ninanina]

Thanks for your post Paul.... yeah I've been trying that and it is a tiny bit easier.... maybe my fingers are just not long enough... I can come up with other excuses as well.... I'm trying very hard... BUT the other chords I've learned I can certainly do pretty ok I guess now so at least I can see improvement... I really do love it though... it's a great new experience :thumbsup:

[lurcher]

Don't worry, your fingers are long enough. Just keep at it. Part of the problem you have now is you are trying to force your fingers into positions they are unused to being in, with muscles that are not used to doing what you are asking them to do. Try to relax as much as you can, and try (I know its not easy) to also be aware of the position of your thumb, palm of hand, wrist and arm. At this point your thumb should be on the back of the neck, just about under the barring finger, your hand should be at 90 degrees to the neck, the neck should be raised at a bit less than 45 degrees and your shoulders should be parallel to the guitar. It may sound like I am giving you more to concentrate on, but it will all help, honest.

Also, don't leave the hand in position for too long, trying to force it into place, take the hand away, relax, then try again. It will come.

[Ninanina]

Don't worry, your fingers are long enough. Just keep at it. Part of the problem you have now is you are trying to force your fingers into positions they are unused to being in, with muscles that are not used to doing what you are asking them to do. Try to relax as much as you can, and try (I know its not easy) to also be aware of the position of your thumb, palm of hand, wrist and arm. At this point your thumb should be on the back of the neck, just about under the barring finger, your hand should be at 90 degrees to the neck, the neck should be raised at a bit less than 45 degrees and your shoulders should be parallel to the guitar. It may sound like I am giving you more to concentrate on, but it will all help, honest.

Also, don't leave the hand in position for too long, trying to force it into place, take the hand away, relax, then try again. It will come.

Thanks Nick I'll try all that next time I practice... ;)

[Oldpinkman]

I've just noticed a chip in my Guild acoustic (2 actually - both tiny,but). I could blame the kids. But surely an excuse to get a new Messiah.
Except what if I chipped that?
Unless I could get really brave and spend a kings ransom on a guitar and go deliberately "stage used" with it. I am just NOT going to put it back in the case after every play. Oh, why is life so difficult. And why did Bev start this nonsense? :(

[Ninanina]

Oh I'm so sorry Richard I didn't mean to do it :o

I'm still struggling with my barre chords, my poor little fingers

:guitar:

[Oldpinkman]

Oh I'm so sorry Richard I didn't mean to do it :o

I'm still struggling with my barre chords, my poor little fingers

:guitar:


In all seriousness Bev don't struggle - persist by all means, but don't struggle. They come in the end, and you just build gradually. How long have you been playing guitar? When you can make 60 changes a minute between A D & E open, and know all the main open chords you can worry about barre chords. I'm not saying you shouldn't start to learn them yet (although I really like Justins approach to guitar) but play stuff you can play too, and just build slowly. I played guitar as a kid, and then not till I met Sue 7 years ago. I learned classical guitar, and have had to learn a completely different style. And I sing like a hippo being castrated so chord accompaniments were not an obvious starting point. About 4 years ago I sulked on holiday, announced I was giving up playing - what was the point, if I couldn't consistently play an open A major chord clean and change to it???? I learned a different way to play it, and can now play it at least 5 different ways, and find the way I nearly gave up for trivially easy, even though its the one I hardly ever use.

It'll come. Don't strain. Practice different stuff. Never keep slogging away at one thing so much it hurts. Build finger muscle strength practicing a variety of different stuff you can do. And have fun! :)

[Ninanina]

Thanks for the encouragement Richard

I'm trying not to be too hard on myself re: barre chords. Certainly I can play about 9 chords pretty well, and sometimes without looking at my left hand position too, I guess that's not too bad after 5 lessons... 6th tomorrow

The good thing is I'm really enjoying the new experience and the lessons are always good fun too

I hope I haven't cost you too much in a new guitar as I've just looked up the Messiah....ooooo they are expensive aren't they?? :doh:

:guitar:

[Ninanina]

Last lesson was the Minor Pentatonic Scale

I'm trying really hard to get my little fingers round this one...

When I watch my tutor do it, it's amazing!! I just wonder if I will ever come close to him... I just think my fingers aren't long enough.... but I guess that's just an excuse...

I have to say I am really enjoying all this new stuff though.... it's super fun.... :D:D

:guitar:

[Stratmangler]

... I just think my fingers aren't long enough.... but I guess that's just an excuse...

I have to say I am really enjoying all this new stuff though.... it's super fun.... :D:D

:guitar:

It's really good to hear that you're enjoying yourself - that's the reason for doing it in the first place.
Many things you learn will be a challenge to stretch for - that's normal, but the physical challenge does subside as you practice more and gain experience.
Some things you will be physically unable to stretch for (doesn't give an excuse for not trying :eyebrows: ), but as you gain musical knowledge you'll find work arounds that will get you into the ballpark.

I've been doing a lot of messing around trying to get the rhythm guitar parts down for this ...

xF7G-5mFpQo

... which is a tune I've known and loved forever, yet never got around to learning.
There are combinations of stretched out chord voicings, with a good number of very tight note chord clusters, all combined with a funky approach and heavy back beat.

The challenges never go away, but it's all good clean fun :D

[User211]

That's a beauty for sure.
How does she sound?

Slow response but hey.

The Koa gives a clear, highly resolved sound that records extremely well. String tension is quite high and it is dynamic and responsive as a result. But action is low and the neck is very comfortable in my hands. It plays very well without a plec and avid fingerpickers would really like it, I think.

[Ninanina]

Chris how are you getting on with the Steely Dan?

[Stratmangler]

Chris how are you getting on with the Steely Dan?

Almost have it under my fingers.
That's excluding the solo - the rhythm guitar part is a whole load of lessons rolled into one, and keeping track of which chord voicing goes where is a skill in itself.
And the boys from The Dan never used one chord when several closely voiced ones could take you someplace altogether more interesting :eyebrows:

[Ninanina]

Almost have it under my fingers.
That's excluding the solo - the rhythm guitar part is a whole load of lessons rolled into one, and keeping track of which chord voicing goes where is a skill in itself.
And the boys from The Dan never used one chord when several closely voiced ones could take you someplace altogether more interesting :eyebrows:

:scratch::scratch:

[Ninanina]

I have a superb miniature Fender Stratocaster if anyone is interested, it really is a perfect match to the real thing but unfortunately I got two of them for Christmas..

This link shows the exact model:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001KZTSAC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Instead of the new price of £25 I am only asking £10 plus a bit of postage, which won't be too much as it's quite light

If no one is interested I will probably put it on eBay

[Ninanina]

Oh dear.... I think this may be worse than hifi collecting...

I've added another guitar.... I couldn't say no to it... It was local and included a rather nice amp too for a price I just couldn't pass up

It's another Strat, of course

This is one I can use outside, instead of using the expensive USA Fender Strat... I will probably use it when we do are bbq's for all our neighbours and friends which normally runs to about 20+ people and guitar playing and singing is part of the evening

This Strat is a rather nice Squire Affinity in a fetching red metallic finish and it's in mint condition... and the amp is not too bad either...

I think guitars may be worse than hifi.... guitars seem to multiply just as easily as hifi.. oooops :mental:

[Ninanina]

I've now played the new addition and had a bit of a jam with it and it plays very well indeed...

It is made in Indonesia and apparently these Indonesian built Squier's are a bit sought after and I can see why.... Much much better than the current Chinese made versions

For what I paid for it I think it's a steal.... It's not too far short of my £1k American Fender Strat to be honest..

A real result, and a guitar to be used as a 'hack' kind of, ie. I don't have to worry about knocking it about a bit...and using it in the garden during bbq's etc

If anyone else is looking for a cheap, but good Strat, look no further than these Indonesian versions, and I am VERY FUSSY about quality and finish

:guitar::guitar:

[Ninanina]

My front room has my computer/desk/chair and a 3 seat sofa etc as well as the following gear:

Oto amp
2 x Pioneer DVD/CD Transports
Rega DAC
1 x Spare Marantz CD player
Sky box
Sony TV
Klipsch Speakers

American Fender Strat Guitar
Indonesian Squier Strat Guitar

Roland Guitar Amp
Micro Marshall Guitar Amp
30w Vitesse Guitar Amp
12" Homemade Guitar Amp

2 x Guitar Stands
2 x Guitar Straps
3 x Guitar Amp Leads
2 x Guitar Tuners
1 x Hard Guitar Case
1 x Soft Guitar Case
1 x Violin


Quite a lot to squeeze into a fairly small space :stalks:

[Audio Al]

My front room has my computer/desk/chair and a 3 seat sofa etc as well as the following gear:

Oto amp
2 x Pioneer DVD/CD Transports
Rega DAC
1 x Spare Marantz CD player
Sky box
Sony TV
Klipsch Speakers

American Fender Strat Guitar
Indonesian Squier Strat Guitar

Roland Guitar Amp
Micro Marshall Guitar Amp
30w Vitesse Guitar Amp
12" Homemade Guitar Amp

2 x Guitar Stands
2 x Guitar Straps
3 x Guitar Amp Leads
2 x Guitar Tuners
1 x Hard Guitar Case
1 x Soft Guitar Case
1 x Violin


Quite a lot to squeeze into a fairly small space :stalks:


So thats why you have no room for the 57's :doh:

[Audio Al]

Bev

It's time for you to do a video of your Jamming session so we can see how you play :)

[Ninanina]

Bev

It's time for you to do a video of your Jamming session so we can see how you play :)

I'd be too embarrassed to.... I have actually made a couple of vids but not for anyone else to view really... I'm pretty pleased with my playing though !!

And even if I didn't have all this stuff in the room I still couldn't make room for some 57's....my room is just not long enough to get them away from the back walls

Klipschorns on the other hand could be located into the corners, you'd hardly know they were there...:doh: not....

[Ninanina]

I MUST resist the Klipschorns.....

Most of my hifi and other goodies are worth more than my car, but if I went with the "horns" the difference would be ridiculous

:eek: