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Stubies
18-09-2013, 07:58
Can anyone recommend a good pair of two way speaker boxes for a project?

I have just acquired some old Genisis tweeters - that, from memory, have a very smooth and sweet sound. These are somewhat unique being packed in oil (which works as a kind of heat/vibration sink) - so they will make an interesting experiment.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genesis-Physics-1-Inverted-Dome-Tweeters-also-for-EPI-and-Epicure-/321205238702?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

Ideally the boxes would be sturdy, look good and come with a good woofer (or a size which is easily buyable).

Any suggestions?

Of course the 'boxes' can be a used pair of speakers - that may be best :)

walpurgis
18-09-2013, 09:38
Ah, so you bought them Stuart. I saw them on eBay. Not sure what you mean by "packed in oil", is that just ferrofluid in the coil gap?

Speak to Shane (southall-1998) may still have his 'full range speakers' in boxes, they'd probably be about the right size cases and they were for sale. He's in London too.

Stubies
18-09-2013, 11:02
Ah, so you bought them Stuart. I saw them on eBay. Not sure what you mean by "packed in oil", is that just ferrofluid in the coil gap?

Like sardines ;)

Actually, the back of the tweeter is a square (clear) plastic box of thick oil - i cant find clear picture that shows the back(most models have the box covered), from memory the 'oil' looks like thick grey grease.

you can see it here in the picture - showing it leaking out - probably these were seriously over driven to heat the oil to the temperature to run out like that. (notice the waxy seal around the tweets?)


http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x321/stuarttill/gentweetleak.jpg


Speak to Shane (southall-1998) may still have his 'full range speakers' in boxes, they'd probably be about the right size cases and they were for sale. He's in London too.

thanks, i will! was that the '1 way efficient missions' he was selling? hmm could be

Rare Bird
18-09-2013, 11:11
The ferrofluid is like thick grey grease like substance..

hard1175
18-09-2013, 13:35
I have a pair of two way speaker cabinets you can have.I paid a ten pounds for them on ebay.
If you would like to cover the cost of the purchase price there yours.
They are cut out for a volt mid bass unit and a dynaudio esotar tweeter the cabinets have been professionally sprayed in dark metallic Gray and are very heavy.

Bernie

Stubies
18-09-2013, 19:38
The ferrofluid is like thick grey grease like substance..

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Fantastic! Positively Alien!!

Yes that is the same stuff - i didnt know it was magnetic, i thought it was just thick oil - but i guess that makes sense. this stuff fills the box behind the tweeter -
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/5/5/6/5/1/3/webimg/684419743_tp.jpg

Stubies
18-09-2013, 19:39
I have a pair of two way speaker cabinets you can have.I paid a ten pounds for them on ebay.
If you would like to cover the cost of the purchase price there yours.
They are cut out for a volt mid bass unit and a dynaudio esotar tweeter the cabinets have been professionally sprayed in dark metallic Gray and are very heavy.

Bernie

Bernie, do you have any pictures you could share? How big are the woofer holes? (for 8 inch or other size driver?)

hard1175
18-09-2013, 20:14
I will take some pictures and measurements ASAP .

Bernie

hard1175
20-09-2013, 17:40
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The cabinet size is H x W x D inches 26 x 13 x 18 cm 66 x 33 x 46

The mid bass opening is for a 12 inch unit.

The cabinets were made by a company called Wellard speakers the front of speaker is five layers of 18mm mdf sandwiched with lead the rest of the cabinets are three layers sandwiched with lead the back of the speaker cabinet has a recess to fit a power amp if you want to make them active.
As I have said these are a heavy speaker. I have heard these units with a volt mid bass unit and a dynaudio esotar tweeter the sounded truly awesome.

Regards

Bernard

Stubies
20-09-2013, 18:59
Bernie,

Could i ask what is the diameter of the tweeter hole?

I have specific tweeters in mind and i would like to see if they will cover the whole hole...

Thanks!



1060610607

The cabinet size is H x W x D inches 26 x 13 x 18 cm 66 x 33 x 46

The mid bass opening is for a 12 inch unit.

The cabinets were made by a company called Wellard speakers the front of speaker is five layers of 18mm mdf sandwiched with lead the rest of the cabinets are three layers sandwiched with lead the back of the speaker cabinet has a recess to fit a power amp if you want to make them active.
As I have said these are a heavy speaker. I have heard these units with a volt mid bass unit and a dynaudio esotar tweeter the sounded truly awesome.

Regards

Bernard

hard1175
20-09-2013, 19:05
I think its 5 inches I will measure them tomorrow and let you know.

Bernie

hard1175
22-09-2013, 14:04
I checked the opening for the tweeter it's 5 1/2 inches 14 cm

Bernie

hard1175
22-09-2013, 14:27
The tweeter opening is 5 1/2 inches 14 cm

Stubies
22-09-2013, 19:08
Thanks Bernie - I'm traveling just now so I will need some time to figure it out - be back to u soon

istari_knight
03-10-2013, 19:56
Only just seen this - I have a pair of Mordaunt Short Pageant II cabinets in the loft with matching grilles if they are of interest you can have them for 'owt ? Bass driver cutout is for 8" [DSB208/B200 chassis] & IIRC the original tweeter had a square faceplate... Cant remember though !

I'll dig them out if your interested...

Stubies
04-10-2013, 02:46
Thanks James!

Just back, I still need to measure the tweeters - which are square in fact.

Will be back to you shortly!


Only just seen this - I have a pair of Mordaunt Short Pageant II cabinets in the loft with matching grilles if they are of interest you can have them for 'owt ? Bass driver cutout is for 8" [DSB208/B200 chassis] & IIRC the original tweeter had a square faceplate... Cant remember though !

I'll dig them out if your interested...