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badsoden
29-08-2013, 12:54
I love my Squeezebox Touch and radios but they can be a bit temperamental and this causes problems for the other half so I was looking for a more simple setup. Does anyone have any thoughts on Sonos? How do they sound, are they easy to use and are they stable?
Apple TV and airplay work for me and I can stream just about anything and use whatever gear I want. But happy to be convinced otherwise.
badsoden
29-08-2013, 14:21
I've heard Apple TV works well, my brother uses it. I have no Apple products and I'm very unlikely to get any I'm not the biggest Apple fan although I do recognise they produce great products. Difficult to explain!
krugdoktor
29-08-2013, 15:04
Sonos works very well, is absolutely easy to use AND uses its own network, so if you intend to use more than one Sonos device, each one connects to the next, so when your WIFI has some weak spots they are filled by the Sonos network. I use 4 devices, one in the opposite corner of my flat with many walls between my router and the Sonos and it works flawlessly.
Can recommend it highly.
badsoden
29-08-2013, 15:16
Are there any file format limitations?
krugdoktor
29-08-2013, 16:12
Unfortunately the limit is 44/16, no high-res. Any other format (WAV, AIFF, ALAC, MP3....) works
that ... and if you have a Collection of more than 55.000 - 60.000 tracks then there is a limitation. It is not a precise number as it depends on the amount of tags your tracks have.
and if you are using addons or any internet music services then you might want to double check. The openess of Squeezebox have insure a bounty of add-ons to all kinds of services, extra functionality and remote apps on various platforms.
Sonos is closed and you have to wait for them to provide support... if ever
badsoden
29-08-2013, 17:09
that ... and if you have a Collection of more than 55.000 - 60.000 tracks then there is a limitation. It is not a precise number as it depends on the amount of tags your tracks have.
and if you are using addons or any internet music services then you might want to double check. The openess of Squeezebox have insure a bounty of add-ons to all kinds of services, extra functionality and remote apps on various platforms.
Sonos is closed and you have to wait for them to provide support... if ever
Those are the very things that has put me off Sonos, that and lack of 24bit support.
Sonospy was designed to work around these limitations: https://github.com/henkelis/sonospy
I don't know if the project is still alive or it has just 'matured' as there seems to have been no updates for a few years but it looks promising. I think the requirement is for a Linux based Proxy server to front up your music collection getting around the file limit and also down sampling hires files on the fly with SOX into 16 /48. I've not used it but it may be worth following up if you are hitting these limits.
Unfortunately the limit is 44/16, no high-res. Any other format (WAV, AIFF, ALAC, MP3....) works
Actually the Sonos works beautifully with 16bit 48Khz files as well. Most HiRes files sounds their best when downsampled to even halves; 88.2 and 176.4 into 44.1 Khz, 96 & 192 into 48Khz.
At least in my experience and system, that is... ;)
Other that that i have nothing but praise for Sonos, sounds good and really easy to use and manage.
On the other hand, i only use for Internet Radio, Spotify, Wimp and local files in 16/44.1-48Khz AIFF.
Oh, another goodie; You dont need any server applications, just a network disk!
Less to get annoyed by!
Regards Mike
badsoden
30-08-2013, 08:10
The problem being though even if you don't use them now or are quite happy with down sampled 24bit files you would be buying into a system that doesn't even give you the option and should you change your mind you then have to buy into another system.
icehockeyboy
09-09-2013, 13:58
I love my Squeezebox Touch and radios but they can be a bit temperamental and this causes problems for the other half so I was looking for a more simple setup. Does anyone have any thoughts on Sonos? How do they sound, are they easy to use and are they stable?
Tell more of the problems you have encountered......I ask as I had thee most frustrating problems with my SB, but, having given Spotify Premium the heave ho, and installed Deezer instead, I'd say that it has cured everything.
I would not have believed Spotify could cause so many problems!
I would not have believed Spotify could cause so many problems!
Spotify?
You're using open source applications in yer Sqeezy server, right?
I find spotify works faultlessly with my Touch,only freezes sometimes when i try to hurry it.:D Slow down..!
icehockeyboy
13-09-2013, 14:17
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Spotify?
You're using open source applications in yer Sqeezy server, right?
Dunno, am I? :scratch:
Stratmangler
13-09-2013, 14:42
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Dunno, am I? :scratch:
LMS and plugins are open source.
Squeezebox firmware is not.
icehockeyboy
13-09-2013, 14:54
LMS and plugins are open source.
Squeezebox firmware is not.
As ever, scuse my iggerance........explain why that matters please!
Stratmangler
13-09-2013, 15:10
As ever, scuse my iggerance........explain why that matters please!
It means that the server software and plugins belong to the wider community.
The whole server software is a collaborative effort by members of the open source community.
It is not owned by Logitech, so they cannot pull the plug on it, and Logitech do not have exclusive rights on it.
icehockeyboy
14-09-2013, 08:24
It means that the server software and plugins belong to the wider community.
The whole server software is a collaborative effort by members of the open source community.
It is not owned by Logitech, so they cannot pull the plug on it, and Logitech do not have exclusive rights on it.
Ah, right.
But Allfa, why did you mention it at all?
Sorry again if that is a silly question, just trying to figure out the relevance of your reference to it. :)
My point was simply, dont blame Spotify, it's not their work either...
It's the work of a community of amateur developers (mostly) adapted to the LMS.
So, you get the whole package, warts and all... :)
Regards /Mike
icehockeyboy
17-09-2013, 16:02
My point was simply, dont blame Spotify, it's not their work either...
It's the work of a community of amateur developers (mostly) adapted to the LMS.
So, you get the whole package, warts and all... :)
Regards /Mike
OK, But why is it that most other Spotify/ Squeezebox users have not experienced the problems that I have? ( cue Stratmangler!)
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