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Gordon Steadman
29-08-2013, 08:21
I am a motor racing fan and subscribe to a Blog by one of the better informed of the commentators.

He posted this today and I'm sure he won't mind me pasting it here. I think his point about people feeling free because its all a bit anonymous is right. It seems shame that people are prepared to be different than they would be face to face. Maybe the threat of a right hook as a good idea after all! What gets me is the seriousness with which people take stuff. If its cars, computers, hi-fi or anything else which is merely an add on to our real lives, why on earth would anybody get so het up and see another opinion as a personal insult? Everybody seems to think they are an expert but forgets there is another human being at the other end of the line (or ether as the case may be)

Over the summer break some people seem to have forgotten the Blog Rules. There are too many people who fire off abusive comments, without thinking. Saying things one would never say to another person if you were face to face. Everyone is a hero when they are hidden behind their little monikers and their fake e-mail addresses. The fact remains that I am not going to publish such comments, so those of you who do this are wasting your time. I do the best I can to sort out what is really happening in F1 and my sources and connections are wide-ranging and in the know. So just because you might read a contrary story somewhere on the Internet does not make it right. There is so much crap out there. This blog is designed to help fans see the sense in what is happening.

I don't have a problem with being wrong. It happens to us all from time to time. It is an inevitable part of the game of trying to sort the wheat from the chaff. Having a bunch of know-it-alls writing abusive and disrespectful things seriously weakens my desire to interact with the F1 public. Most of my colleagues think I'm nuts to waste so much time on these things, and there are times when I feel the same way. So please, if you want to be able to go on making comments, try to make them positive, respectful and non-personal. It is just no fun dealing with the negative stuff all the time. The blog rules are as follows:

"People are welcome to comment, but they should always remember that this is a privilege, not a right. Any posts that include unpleasant and abusive language will not be published. Joe has no problems with passionate comments and sensible debate, but remember that you are part of a diverse community and it is necessary to be respectful of others. Some of those posting are from the F1 community, and know what they are talking about.

"One can be critical of statements, but try to avoid personal attacks; try to talk about the motorsport world, and skip obscenities, political rhetoric, and anything that might give offence. If you ignore these rules you will be banned. And your future posts will go straight into spam.

"It is always best to include a proper email address with your comments as Joe can then contact you if there are things that need to be discussed outside the public domain."

Firebottle
29-08-2013, 09:03
:clapclapclap:

MikeMusic
29-08-2013, 09:31
Top man
Tells it like it is

>this is a privilege, not a right.

I hope more take this on board

jollyfix
29-08-2013, 09:43
:clapclapclap:
Well said that man.

Spectral Morn
29-08-2013, 11:07
Well said that man :exactly: :clap:

The law is starting to catch up and the police take more seriously the kind of nasty, vile rubbish launched by trolls and online bullies, and those who think they have some sort of 'divine' self appointed right to attack people willy nilly, anyway they like for the slightest deviation from what they might think is the 'correct way/thinking'.

With the recent (there have been way too many in the past as well) terrible deaths of children bullied online the Government and online protection agencies are beginning to pull their socks up over this type of online behaviour. The thing is its not just children but adults who can find themselves on the end of a hate campaign and unwarranted bullying.

What you say online has consequences - just as what one says and does in real life - and increasingly so. There are agencies to report websites and online abusers to, including the police and I for one think there should be a totally zero tolerance attitude towards this type of behaviour and those who engage in it wherever and further sites/blogs/forums etc that allow, condone, encourage or don't police such vile behaviour properly should along with the perpetrators be prosecuted under the law. Make no mistake you are not safe and anonymous behind your keyboard anymore.

Often I have heard people say.... 'its only the net' well sorry no its not. What one says and does online can affect peoples lives, their physical and mental health and sometimes seriously so.

Think hard before you type.


Regards Neil

Oldpinkman
29-08-2013, 16:03
Just because fatigue caused us to bunk off this time, don't think you're getting off that lightly. I hide behind no email or avatar, and am far worse in the flesh. You have been warned:eyebrows:

As for right hooks, just call Mrs S a fat warbler to her face cos I haven't had a proper laugh in weeks :cool:

Gordon Steadman
29-08-2013, 16:20
Just because fatigue caused us to bunk off this time, don't think you're getting off that lightly. I hide behind no email or avatar, and am far worse in the flesh. You have been warned:eyebrows:

As for right hooks, just call Mrs S a fat warbler to her face cos I haven't had a proper laugh in weeks :cool:

In case anyone should wonder what the hell he is going on about.......... its private:lol:

I don't think you read the post properly. No matter what I might think in private, I wouldn't dream of saying anything nasty out load (cough cough). Why no laughs, I though that is what holidays are for. Serious type are we?

Seriously though folks............I would love to meet Mrs S and that means you'd be there too I suppose. As you say. maybe next time:)

Barry
29-08-2013, 17:11
Good post Neil! :clap:

Puffin
29-08-2013, 17:54
As my mum said "if you can't say anything nice - don't say anything at all"!

Oldpinkman
29-08-2013, 18:30
In case anyone should wonder what the hell he is going on about.......... its private:lol:

I don't think you read the post properly. No matter what I might think in private, I wouldn't dream of saying anything nasty out load (cough cough). Why no laughs, I though that is what holidays are for. Serious type are we?

Seriously though folks............I would love to meet Mrs S and that means you'd be there too I suppose. As you say. maybe next time:)
No - I realised it wasn't about that. Just looking to get our flippant banter going again - and we will do that date - maybe October half term if you are up for it, although there may be surgery interferes with our schedule. Even Mrs S is looking forward to it and practicing her warbling. Would hope to meet Alan too. But home and some catching up now :cool:

Oldpinkman
29-08-2013, 18:31
As my mum said "if you can't say anything nice - don't say anything at all"!

I know that quote and repeat it often. Well, a slightly different version, but the gist is the same.

Gordon Steadman
29-08-2013, 18:52
No - I realised it wasn't about that. Just looking to get our flippant banter going again - and we will do that date - maybe October half term if you are up for it, although there may be surgery interferes with our schedule. Even Mrs S is looking forward to it and practicing her warbling. Would hope to meet Alan too. But home and some catching up now :cool:

Hope the ferry crossing is calm and peaceful. Don't know how long half term is but its possible all three of us could meet at the same time. Alan is about 2.5/3 hours away from us here. I am seeing him and his wife on Monday so we might discuss the conditions upon which we would be prepared to abide your company:eyebrows:

YNWaN
29-08-2013, 19:09
In case anyone should wonder what the hell he is going on about.......... its private:lol:

I'm glad you posted that because I was indeed just thinking "what on earth is he on about?".
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It's all very well asking people to behave in a civilied manner but the reality is that some people are incapable of doing so, or they have a very different idea as to what constitutes 'civilised'. There has recently been a big thread on another forum relating to this very issue - despite a huge amount of input from all manner of participants, nothing of substance resulted.