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MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 08:59
I used to think bad things when I heard versions of songs I know and love
A while ago I realised that the new version, usually by a different artist could be s good, sometimes even better
To start with
Papa was a rolling stone
Temptations
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Was (not Was)
play.spotify.com/track/13oi7bwyf5VtJHteMPcYPL
live
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longer version
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Still love the original and Don Was has technology on his side, so well made
Audio Al
08-08-2013, 09:25
This one as well
Original by Elton John ( ignore the Martha Reeves bit :scratch: )
open.spotify.com/track/55uHgEQV1BVtTbI72uEpOq
Or this one :D by Billy Paul
open.spotify.com/track/2wqHoUGCGSpi5xzqgcJcWz
I like the second one best :D
Gordon Steadman
08-08-2013, 09:51
One of my favourite songs from the great days of pop was 'Fire and Rain' by James Taylor.
Was looking at some Richie Havens stuff on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3L_oAQG-nI
He is great live (sorry was, sadly:()
MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 10:03
This one as well
Original by Elton John ( ignore the Martha Reeves bit :scratch: )
Or this one :D by Billy Paul
I like the second one best :D
Never been an EJ fan so I have to prefer the 2nd
:)
MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 10:04
One of my favourite songs from the great days of pop was 'Fire and Rain' by James Taylor.
Was looking at some Richie Havens stuff on YouTube
He is great live (sorry was, sadly:()
Like it.
Great guy.
MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 10:08
play.spotify.com/track/1klqBqLXdUN6ilIhtOAYtm
or left field, Devo
play.spotify.com/track/6qy31G5yc9COgOcjgQL2zE
Assume you know the original
:)
Audioman
08-08-2013, 10:26
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Good.
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Best.
MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 10:33
Joe gets the nod from me too
Joe gets the nod from me too
I'd agree in the one too. Not so sure about either the Elton John or James Taylor songs, still prefer the originals myself :)
Audioman
08-08-2013, 10:55
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Good.
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Even Better - a great tribute.
Audio Al
08-08-2013, 10:55
Not so sure about either the Elton John or James Taylor songs, still prefer the originals myself
And I thought YOU APPRECIATED MUSIC :scratch:
All hope is now lost :lol:
And I thought YOU APPRECIATED MUSIC :scratch:
All hope is now lost :lol:
:lol: nice one Al ;)
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Good.
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Even Better - a great tribute.
Agreed and double agreed :)
MikeMusic
08-08-2013, 12:00
Floyd good
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CBV just a bit better ? is this heresy ?
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MikeMusic
10-08-2013, 14:22
Paul Mc - good
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Faces - wonderful
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Thought it was a Faces original for years
MikeMusic
10-08-2013, 14:27
The not really Fleetwood Mac
play.spotify.com/album/6b6FYoisWvkLKxF2JDjm1j
the whole album - yes the whole album by Camper Van Beethoven
play.spotify.com/album/4gGwo2KWm3kHogFov9qdTU
Amused the hell out of a not really Fleetwood Mac fan
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 08:40
Jake Thakray is one of my all time favourites but this was released at a time when 'naughtiness' was not allowed 'out there' and its dressed up to make it pretty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQhi4oyH6k
So unusually, I reckon Jasper's is better because the performance is in keeping with the song. Its dirty after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CprQ295dxVw
Looked at some of the others and they are all either totally over the top or just desperate to be funny. It may be that Jasper looks like a chicken that makes it work!!
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 09:48
Jake Thakray is one of my all time favourites but this was released at a time when 'naughtiness' was not allowed 'out there' and its dressed up to make it pretty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hQhi4oyH6k
So unusually, I reckon Jasper's is better because the performance is in keeping with the song. Its dirty after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CprQ295dxVw
Looked at some of the others and they are all either totally over the top or just desperate to be funny. It may be that Jasper looks like a chicken that makes it work!!
Can't bear the sound of Thackery
Jasper I can take lots of so case proven there :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfqVDHNW6c
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 10:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfqVDHNW6c
:eek::scratch::mental::stalks::steam:
Utterly horrible:)
Clothears
17-08-2013, 10:16
Probably I'll be accused of sacrilege, but I like this song..
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but prefer this version..
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jollyfix
17-08-2013, 10:36
I prefer Spooky Tooth's take on I am the Walrus.
What about a version of a song by the same artist, but with a different lead singer? This even though its Tom Jones is very good 'imop'.
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MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 10:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfqVDHNW6c
Valid -for sure
plus I like lots of other versions including the original !
:)
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 10:41
Probably I'll be accused of sacrilege, but I like this song..
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but prefer this version..
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Such a good song. I like both, plus there's another I can't think of. As there are 100s I'll have to search in my head
The Grand Wazoo
17-08-2013, 10:41
Some of my favourite 'better than the original' tracks:
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After:
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After:
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Sometimes I love covers, not because they're better, but just because they are different - painting by numbers is rather boring, I find:
Aussie band Zoot featuring Rick 'Jessie's Girl' Springfield on guitar!
No point is linking to the original on this one!
After:
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MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 10:44
I prefer Spooky Tooth's take on I am the Walrus.
What about a version of a song by the same artist, but with a different lead singer? This even though its Tom Jones is very good 'imop'.
That Spook Tooth version is wonderful
Not a TJ fan, but confess that is some voice.
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 10:54
Some of my favourite 'better than the original' tracks:
Sometimes I love covers, not because they're better, but just because they are different
Agreed in spade
I find anything by Dylan is better by almost anyone else :)
Can't argue with The Pixies doing much
Not convinced with the others adding anything I want ....
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 12:07
Agreed in spade
I find anything by Dylan is better by almost anyone else :)
Can't argue with The Pixies doing much
Not convinced with the others adding anything I want ....
To a degree, of course, it depends when you were young!! The music of that time forms your likes and dislikes. As Wazoo said, just doing a cover note for note seems pointless but...... a case in point being Zoot's Eleanor Rigby..... a great song has music relevant to the words and I can't help feeling that a heavy metal band doing a very sad lament to a lonely woman quite rings true somehow:doh:.
This has been such an interesting thread though and its fascinating to see all the different views.
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 12:19
To a degree, of course, it depends when you were young!! The music of that time forms your likes and dislikes. As Wazoo said, just doing a cover note for note seems pointless but...... a case in point being Zoot's Eleanor Rigby..... a great song has music relevant to the words and I can't help feeling that a heavy metal band doing a very sad lament to a lonely woman quite rings true somehow:doh:.
This has been such an interesting thread though and its fascinating to see all the different views.
I was there when Dylan first appeared. Couldn't quite see what the fuss was about and there was plenty of fuss from artists and bands. Left me puzzled
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 14:24
I was there when Dylan first appeared. Couldn't quite see what the fuss was about and there was plenty of fuss from artists and bands. Left me puzzled
I think Dylan is a unique case.
The material actually overcomes his terrible voice. I have always rated the lyrics as equally or more important than the music. I come from a bookish family and we all love words. My book collection is worse than the music. In spite of dumping everything I hadn't read at least three times, when we moved out here, there are still too many and the space is needed.
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 14:55
I think Dylan is a unique case.
The material actually overcomes his terrible voice. I have always rated the lyrics as equally or more important than the music. I come from a bookish family and we all love words. My book collection is worse than the music. In spite of dumping everything I hadn't read at least three times, when we moved out here, there are still too many and the space is needed.
I've briefly look at his words and not found anything that merits the praise.
I like the way Peter Hammill has with words and phrasing, especially with the music !
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 15:08
I've briefly look at his words and not found anything that merits the praise.
I like the way Peter Hammill has with words and phrasing, especially with the music !
Never heard him or of him!! Looked him up an the net. Have heard of the band but never heard their music. Will check out YouTube.
A few million disagree with you about Dylan's lyrics, not that that means anything.
However, just another example of differing tastes.
Gordon Steadman
17-08-2013, 15:16
Never heard him or of him!! Looked him up an the net. Have heard of the band but never heard their music. Will check out YouTube.
Hmm, well check him out I did. For me, just another pro band, churning out the usual stuff with somewhat pretentious lyrics, trying hard to be meaningful. Probably a bit like Dylan who tried desperately to be as important as Woodie Guthrie and so invented a persona to go with it. Strange though that knowing that, I still like his stuff but find nothing for me - so far - in Van Der Graaf!!
Good game this - I keep seeing new stuff:)
MikeMusic
17-08-2013, 17:18
Hmm, well check him out I did. For me, just another pro band, churning out the usual stuff with somewhat pretentious lyrics, trying hard to be meaningful. Probably a bit like Dylan who tried desperately to be as important as Woodie Guthrie and so invented a persona to go with it. Strange though that knowing that, I still like his stuff but find nothing for me - so far - in Van Der Graaf!!
Good game this - I keep seeing new stuff:)
Would n't have said PH or VDG were doing the 'usual stuff'. Possibly because I heard it when first released. I think PH did the first ever drum and bass track, except it was good ! :) Odd how it became a genre.
Try In Camera, Chameleon in the shadow of night, Nadir's Big Chance, Sitting Targets, The Future now
for VDG have a go at World Record, Quiet Zone, H to He, Pawn Hearts
There are many others and they do vary.
I reckon they are very special in that era and style, being virtually unique
New stuff is great !
A few of my favourite covers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Dlbu4aPOc
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgiz5w9m-B8
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c37GdAzgQo
Paul
DanJennings
07-09-2013, 08:02
I like Dylan's originals, admittedly he's not a strong singer, but sometimes that that helps.
Sometimes I think vocal techniques can distract from the content of the lyrics, which is why a lot of my favourite bands don't have remarkable singers (Talking Heads, XTC, Bob Dylan, Mark Knopfler, Elvis Costello, even Roger Waters etc)
Of course there are always exceptions
DanJennings
07-09-2013, 08:03
Also this is a good 'un:
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