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Tim
24-06-2013, 00:43
I have been seriously thinking of getting shot of my TV over the weekend, there's nothing much on that interests me these days, in fact I think its mostly crap if I'm being frank! I never watch soaps, I dislike reality TV and talent shows leave me cold - I abhor everything about them . . . so for me a TV these days is a thief of time. I only watch it because it's there and to be honest the amount I watch is very little and if there is anything really important, I could always watch it later on-line.

So what do you think guys - should it go so I can spend more time listening to music and reading, or should I hang on to it?

:cool:

(its a 42" Panasonic Plasma by the way)

chelsea
24-06-2013, 00:50
Keep it just for glastonbury and sky arts...

Tim
24-06-2013, 00:52
I don't have Sky, only poor man's TV and Glasto is on-line ;)

Marco
24-06-2013, 06:13
uRUhjFF5a6Y


Press Play! :eyebrows:

Marco.

realysm42
24-06-2013, 07:03
Been without for 8 years, don't miss it one bit.

Rots your head and 50% f*ucking adverts, which I can't stand.

Thing Fish
24-06-2013, 07:22
I just keep it to watch blu rays on. Most of my watching is done online as I refuse to pay for sky.

Rare Bird
24-06-2013, 07:30
Tim:
I do not watch TV only play DVD's, if the TV is on while the wife is at home, i might watch something for half an hour once in a blue moon but it will be something of interest like a documentary, never the crap you see on everyday viewing. I really begrudge paying for a licence + sky & would get shut of the TV in a flash but i have the wife to consider

Audioman
24-06-2013, 07:33
Worth it for news, politics and sport even if any other decent content is thin on the ground. Don't buy papers any more so it's how I keep up with events. Of course if you want to isolate yourself from the world get rid of it and you won't be able to engage in inane discussions on AOS about reality TV. There is also loads of extra crap now we have freeview as well as shopping channels. Combine with Amazon and Tesco Direct and you need never leave home. :lol:

freefallrob
24-06-2013, 08:41
uRUhjFF5a6Y


Press Play! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Oh my god, I haven't seen that for years, used to love it!

REXTON
24-06-2013, 08:59
+1 used to watch this every week. To answer the thread, yes I think I would get rid of the tv

walpurgis
24-06-2013, 09:19
Get rid of it.

It seems to be a choice of endless rubbish these days. My family watch it, but there's little to interest me. I've thought of disposing of the TV and my phone landline many times. I have no great use for either.

A friend of mine got rid of his TV a few years ago and is endlessly harrassed by the TV licencing people. They just will not believe he hasn't got one. Mind you he just tells them to F*** Off when they visit.

Tim
24-06-2013, 09:27
A friend of mine got rid of his TV a few years ago and is endlessly harassed by the TV licensing people.
Do you know what Geoff, being the practising curmudgeon that I am, this part really makes me want to get rid of it, just so I can feck with them :lol:


Of course if you want to isolate yourself from the world get rid of it and you won't be able to engage in inane discussions on AOS about reality TV.
I never watch the 'news' on TV, I really don't like the modern media - I pick and choose the news I want to read on my tablet BBC News app ;)

As for reality TV shows :sofa:

walpurgis
24-06-2013, 10:42
Do you know what Geoff, being the practising curmudgeon that I am, this part really makes me want to get rid of it, just so I can feck with them :lol:

Go for it!

Joe
24-06-2013, 11:24
Get rid of it. The only stuff worth watching is on BBC4, and almost all of those programmes end up on the iPlayer.

Joe
24-06-2013, 11:26
Get rid of it.

It seems to be a choice of endless rubbish these days. My family watch it, but there's little to interest me. I've thought of disposing of the TV and my phone landline many times. I have no great use for either.

A friend of mine got rid of his TV a few years ago and is endlessly harrassed by the TV licencing people. They just will not believe he hasn't got one. Mind you he just tells them to F*** Off when they visit.

I just get a letter every couple of years asking if I still haven't got a TV. I just go on to their website and tick the relevant box and they go away again.

prestonchipfryer
24-06-2013, 11:35
If I had my way, then there wouldn't be a TV in my house, but the wifey likes it. Be honest, it's all bloody crap.

John

shane
24-06-2013, 15:22
Worth it for news, politics and sport

You can get all of that on Radio 4 in a much more engaging format.

John
24-06-2013, 15:37
I think you answered your question
I use Iplayer for the few hours of TV I watch
Have a screen for DVD's but no TV tuner with it

Audio Al
24-06-2013, 16:08
I have a TV. only switch it on for the F1 and Football and maybe the odd Film / documentary

I could see all that on line maybe?, my monitor is 24" and the TV is 52" , SIZE MATTERS " Apparently " :lol:

I will keep my TV ;)

Marco
24-06-2013, 16:54
You could set-up your own channel: PISHANTO TV :D

Marco.

Audio Al
24-06-2013, 17:03
You could set-up your own channel: PISHANTO TV :D

Marco.

It cant be worse than most of the crap on TV now

We have Bargain Hunt

Boot Sale Challenge

So could be a demand for " Boot Sale Pishanto TV ":lol:

AlanS
24-06-2013, 17:15
Keep it and get some self control. Nobody makes you watch.

Marco
24-06-2013, 17:22
So could be a demand for " Boot Sale Pishanto TV ":lol:

I'm liking it! Would you wear that funny wee hat of yours on air? :D

Marco.

Audio Al
24-06-2013, 17:37
I'm liking it! Would you wear that funny wee hat of yours on air? :D

Marco.

Most Defiantly Sir

Marco
24-06-2013, 18:25
Quality! Do you think you can manage to say this in a posh 'BBC accent' (wearing your wee hat, with a cheeky grin):

"Good evening, daftees and daftee-esses and welcome to Pishanto TV. I am your host for this evening's rampant nonsense."

:lol: :eyebrows:

Marco.

walpurgis
24-06-2013, 19:36
You could set-up your own channel: PISHANTO TV :D

Marco.

Seems to me that's largely what we're stuck with already!

Tim
28-06-2013, 19:19
Well this has been very useful, so thanks guys. Its been really interesting discussing it with a few of my friends too, you would think I was contemplating cutting off an arm, by some of the reactions I have had - strange influence TV has on some people, which has strengthened my resolve to get shot of it - still not finally decided yet and my licence is up for renewal in 2 months time :eyebrows:

Macca
29-06-2013, 08:58
I like to watch a bit of telly late on when it isn't neighbourly to have the music blasting out (hate headphones) - I've got the full package, that's a couple of hundred channels which I've distilled down to about eighty that might have something worth watching on, so I just cycle through until something takes my fancy. Modern shows are generally not up to much but I like the old stuff from the Seventies and there is plenty of that across multiple channels. Anything with adverts I hit record then come back to it 20 minutes later and start watching it - that way you have enough time built up to fast forward through all the commercial breaks. I've done without in the past - at college I went 2 years without watching any telly or reading a newspaper - I didn't find out about the Berlin Wall coming down until 2 months after it happened. Never missed the TV, forgot all about it in fact. When I left college and started work I got a corking brand new 28 inch Hitachi and was instantly mesmerised again :)

Tim
29-06-2013, 10:11
Anything with adverts I hit record then come back to it 20 minutes later and start watching it . .
I do that too Martin, although I rarely watch anything 'live' now apart from F1 or Rugby, its always been recorded previously. When I lived in the Caribbean my dish got taken out by a lightning strike and it was over 6 months before the landlord replaced it, as he had to import a new one from the US - I missed it at first to be honest, but after a few months I didn't and I was a little annoyed when he fixed it - I'm one of those people that if its there I use it, but if its not I don't miss it. Music is what floats my boat and I'm not big on music DVD's, it has to be the real thing for me.

I get all my news from my tablet PC app or Radio4 now and that's all you really need, the rest is just filler IMO. I can't even watch F1 now with that gargoyle Suzi Perry :spew: and Rugby I prefer to watch at my mates, or down the pub with a beer and some atmosphere ;)

The Grand Wazoo
29-06-2013, 10:31
I got used to life without a TV when I was abroad as a kid. Back in the UK after I left home I only ever had a black & white portable right up until so recently you wouldn't believe! We got a colour set in about 1999 - still a tiny portable though! That's how important TV is to me.

A photo of our living room circa 1993/4 reveals the order of priorities:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1663/imgkrb.jpg

We have a bigger set now but I could happily do without.
Radio is my preferred source of news. I was thinking about the nature of many TV programmes the other day and it occurred to me that there are actually very few programmes that even need pictures - think about it next time you're watching. OK, sport and nature content are both transformed by pictures, but most other stuff works fine if you do away with the images.

Barry
30-06-2013, 00:07
I got used to life without a TV when I was abroad as a kid. Back in the UK after I left home I only ever had a black & white portable right up until so recently you wouldn't believe! We got a colour set in about 1999 - still a tiny portable though! That's how important TV is to me.

A photo of our living room circa 1993/4 reveals the order of priorities:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1663/imgkrb.jpg

We have a bigger set now but I could happily do without.
Radio is my preferred source of news. I was thinking about the nature of many TV programmes the other day and it occurred to me that there are actually very few programmes that even need pictures - think about it next time you're watching. OK, sport and nature content are both transformed by pictures, but most other stuff works fine if you do away with the images.

What are those power amps Chris? Love the Zeta arm - but what is that Naim-like thing on the top shelf!?

Tim
30-06-2013, 08:55
I was thinking about the nature of many TV programmes the other day and it occurred to me that there are actually very few programmes that even need pictures . . .
And judging by some of those so called Talent Shows, a lot would be better without any sound as well :lol:

The Grand Wazoo
30-06-2013, 09:09
What are those power amps Chris?
They're Art Audio Tempo mono amps Barry. 4 x EL34 per channel with a little switch on the back to select pentode or triode connection. They were quite nice, but the STA15 is better!


....but what is that Naim-like thing on the top shelf!?
It's not Naim-like it's actual Naim! A CDI compact disc player.

Werner Berghofer
30-06-2013, 09:56
Tim,

get rid of it. Remember thouse famous lyrics from Zappa’s “I am the slime”?

“That’s right folks, don’t touch that dial!
I am the slime from your video
Oozing around on your living room’s floor”

Werner.

AlanS
30-06-2013, 10:04
Hasnt it gone yet? Kill the evil

The Grand Wazoo
30-06-2013, 10:11
........get rid of it. Remember thouse famous lyrics from Zappa’s “I am the slime“?

I was going to quote that song too Werner - it contains plenty more evidence for the prosecution!

"I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get......."

walpurgis
30-06-2013, 10:27
The first line from 'Dumb All Over' springs to mind too:

"Whoever we are, wherever we're from, we shoulda noticed by now our behaviour is dumb."


(don't you just love old Frank)

Barry
30-06-2013, 10:30
I was going to quote that song too Werner - it contains plenty more evidence for the prosecution!

"I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get......."

Makes the TV license seem like good value for money! :lol:

system7
30-06-2013, 10:37
Having dumped TV last year, the only thing I miss is the live NFL American Football games late at night on Channel 4. :(

But otherwise I have got my life back! Newspapers are a waste of time too.

Most of the media, especially the BBC, is a socialist propaganda machine anyway. The McCarthy era people in America had the right idea in keeping communist stooges out of the film business and media. Unfashionable but true.

The decision was based on the simple observation that my life (at College) was better when I was too busy for these timewasters.

Of course, you then need to find other things to do. I do Physics and loudspeakers these days. I have my music collection and read a novel or two as well and take out a film now and then. I'd estimate my IQ has gone up several points. It's better. :)

Macca
30-06-2013, 10:53
Do any of you who have no TV in the house have young children? Just wondering as when I was at school there was a couple of kids whose (very high-brow) parents did not have televisions and I have to say they were not very well adjusted individuals.

One of my brothers decided when he had his first-born that he would not let him watch any current TV at all and would instead feed him with DVDs of classic shows from the past. Starting with Ivor the Engine, Bagpuss and so forth and then moving on with age to the likes of Space 1999, UFO and The Prisoner. 'He is not going to know what Peppa Pig is!' he proclaimed. Sadly the reality is that even a 2 year old can now use an iPad thing and access anything he wants. And he loves Peppa Pig. Epic Fail.

walpurgis
30-06-2013, 11:02
As I've suggested. I'd be happy to get rid of the TV, but there'd be an uprising in my house. I'd never hear the last of it from the grandkids (who live with me), missing 'Horrid Henry' or 'The Simpsons' would not be tolerated and my daughter would not be happy without her regular dose of soaps and reality TV (all shite).

Tim
30-06-2013, 11:20
I think that's me decided then, when the licence runs out in August its going. I do agree though, I would have no chance getting shot of it if I had a wife or children, but at nearly 55 I think I need no further 'adjustment' of my personality from a television - I am who I am, warts an' all and that's unlikely to change now. Having just watched the end of the Glasto broadcast from last night (the Stones were just brilliant, as always), I was subjected to some dumb arsed 20 something presenter who's every other word was 'like' and each sentence ended with upspeak . . . I'm going to love not listening to that particular affliction in future.

Great discussion here too guys, both for and against, but Frank Zappa sealed the deal I reckon - thanks Chris and Werner ;)

The Grand Wazoo
30-06-2013, 11:25
Excellent choice.
Also, a thought prompted by your description of the dumb-arsed presenter, just think of all the sentences that begin with 'So...' that you won't be subjected to!

Macca
30-06-2013, 11:43
Great discussion here too guys, both for and against, but Frank Zappa sealed the deal I reckon - thanks Chris and Werner ;)

Lies. Everyone knows that Frank was a huge fan of television. His favourite show was 'The Love Boat'.

shevans
30-06-2013, 14:13
Do any of you who have no TV in the house have young children? Just wondering as when I was at school there was a couple of kids whose (very high-brow) parents did not have televisions and I have to say they were not very well adjusted individuals.

One of my brothers decided when he had his first-born that he would not let him watch any current TV at all and would instead feed him with DVDs of classic shows from the past. Starting with Ivor the Engine, Bagpuss and so forth and then moving on with age to the likes of Space 1999, UFO and The Prisoner. 'He is not going to know what Peppa Pig is!' he proclaimed. Sadly the reality is that even a 2 year old can now use an iPad thing and access anything he wants. And he loves Peppa Pig. Epic Fail.

Lots of children here we compromised by selling the 42" plasma and buying a 26" LCD. The TV is still there and available for viewing but only watched half the amount of time, probably because its half the size. In the evening the wife used to automatically turn the TV on and channel surf, now she asks if there is anything worth watching.

aquapiranha
30-06-2013, 14:44
I would advise getting rid. Before I moved here I did not have a TV for years. Once it was gone I kept asking myself why I had not done it sooner!
Now that I live with my other half and her young daughter it seems the only thing on is so called talent shows and soap opera rubbish. I use one of the TVs for my streamer to play music but wish it didnt need one.


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Roy S
30-06-2013, 15:11
I will, in general, watch any old crap, mostly one or other of the Discovery channels for Wheeler Dealers, Chasing Classic Cars, Aucton Hunters etc. and will definitely be keeping my Samsung 55" LED

walpurgis
30-06-2013, 15:48
For those who are actually television fans here are the closing lyric lines from 'TV Is King' by The Tubes (great track by the way).

I really love my ---- Television
Love to sit by ---- Television
Can't live without my ---- Television
I can't turn off my ---- Television
Don't really know why ---- Television
I understand my ---- Television
I really love my ---- Television

TV is King!
Your my everything
TV is King!

MartinT
01-07-2013, 07:14
I think it's all too easy and almost the 'done thing' to criticise TV as if there were not plenty of choices and reasons for keeping but limiting your viewing. For me, TV with the Sky HD recorder allows me to watch in high definition, record everything so that I can skip adverts, and gives me access to some of the best drama available regardless of format. Most importantly, I only watch my recordings and turn it off immediately afterwards. It's there for me when I want it but it never dictates my evenings.

So, my question to Tim and the assembled is, how could you go without the following in HD with great sound:

- Game of Thrones
- The Borgias
- Suits
- Person of Interest
- Revolution
- Continuum
- Wallander (and several other Scandinavian dramas)

Ok, so I've just named my favourites, but you can substitute your own. There's also the question of F1 live (the Sky F1 channel is superb) and Wimbledon (ditto the BBC broadcasts). Not to mention being able to play some Blu-ray films (and no, the PC is not adequate).

There, I've just justified my TV, the licence and Sky subscription.

MartinT
01-07-2013, 07:16
just think of all the sentences that begin with 'So...' that you won't be subjected to!

I've already raised that in Pet Hates. The BBC are rife with it, especially on Radio 4.

The Grand Wazoo
01-07-2013, 07:29
Yes I saw that and applauded it - it's been bugging me for some time too.

Tim
01-07-2013, 08:53
So, my question to Tim and the assembled is, how could you go without the following in HD with great sound:

- Game of Thrones
- The Borgias
- Suits
- Person of Interest
- Revolution
- Continuum
- Wallander (and several other Scandinavian dramas)


Well, honest answer I can do without all of the above and if there is anything I really want to watch, catch up on demand on-line. I don't have SKY and never would, I can't watch F1 anymore because Suzi Perry does my head in and that's on the iPlayer anyway.

I will put my movie collection on my NAS and with all the Synology apps, I can stream anything to my tablet. I sat on the sofa last night and held up my tablet against my 42" TV - same size visually believe it or not, only good for 1 viewer though, but then its only me. Plug a pair of good headphones in and that's good enough for my use.

I cancelled my Radio Times subscription this morning and my TV licence expires on 31.7.13 - I will be listing it for sale in 3 weeks time and I'm feeling like a weight is about to come off my shoulders. But lets face it, if I do miss it I can always buy another one ;)

Tim
02-07-2013, 21:17
There is of course one fundamental element here which hasn't been discussed yet, as I guess we are all frightened of mentioning it . . . . . . but you guys do realise that they are inside your TV watching you, don't you?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/tinfoil-hat_zps2281bebb.jpg

:lol:

MartinT
03-07-2013, 05:37
Well, honest answer I can do without all of the above

Which is why I said "you can substitute your own". Perhaps instead of thinking of a TV as that, think of it as a big screen. If you are a film or drama lover, why would you want rid of the device that is closest to giving you a cinematic experience? Using a tablet up close with earphones is not a substitute!

Werner Berghofer
03-07-2013, 06:44
Tim,


Ok, so I've just named my favourites, but you can substitute your own.

that’s what I hereby like to do (in deliberate sequence, if possible watched in the original language version):

• The Wire
• Treme
• Breaking bad
• The Sopranos
• Six feet under
• Mad men
• Borgen
• Dexter
• Homeland

Purchased on DVD or Blu-Ray and ripped. Look and sound just wonderful on my 27 inch iMac, Schiit DAC/headamp stack, Rokit 2.1 active speakers. For news I prefer radio and print and the occasional visit to some of my favourite newspaper’s websites. My partner has a huge flat-screen TV above in the living room, but most of the programme viewed upstairs comes from an attached WD media player. The moment live TV is being switched on I flee downstairs to my office :-)

There’s a quote dealing with TV. Unfortunately I don’t know it’s source and I only know it in German, so I’ll have to translate it on the fly: “TV works pretty much like the neutron bomb. It beams your brain away, but leaves the rest of the body functional.”

Werner.

MartinT
03-07-2013, 06:53
• Mad men

I forgot that from my list, Werner, but agreed it's an excellent series and a really insightful look into the chauvinistic world of the 1960s.

Marco
03-07-2013, 07:32
There is of course one fundamental element here which hasn't been discussed yet, as I guess we are all frightened of mentioning it . . . . . . but you guys do realise that they are inside your TV watching you, don't you?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/tinfoil-hat_zps2281bebb.jpg

:lol:

Tell me about it - the buggers are everywhere... One of them even found our long-lost bunny.


http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4162/pgd5.jpg


The tinfoil heads are WATCHING YOU! :uhho:

Mark Grant
03-07-2013, 08:04
. Having just watched the end of the Glasto broadcast from last night (the Stones were just brilliant, as always),

The picture quality in HD was fantastic on freeview HD ( free apart from the licence fee) on my Humax T2, you dont get that picture quality on the radio or iplayer :)

Tim
04-07-2013, 09:38
ē The Wire
ē Treme
ē Breaking bad
ē The Sopranos
ē Six feet under
ē Mad men
ē Borgen
ē Dexter
ē Homeland

That's a half decent list Werner, apart from Breaking Bad and Dexter I have watched all those and really like them. I need to get Breaking Bad as my best mate tells me its my kind of series. I would add The West Wing, The Bridge and The Hour to that ;)

I am just about to buy an ASUS 27" (https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX279H/) screen and with my Mini-T, HRT DAC, Celestion setup in the dining room, that will keep me happy. I have started weaning myself off TV this week, I haven't recorded anything and only watched Luther (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10156599/Luther-was-so-horrifying-I-couldnt-get-to-the-end.html) on my 24" Samsung on catchup - perfect for my needs :) I want my listening room to be uncluttered and calming . . . groaning Hi-Fi racks and a huge TV just don't do it for me . . . . anyway, I need to get my tin foil hat back on, I think there are watching me again . . .


The tinfoil heads are WATCHING YOU! :uhho:

:lol:

MartinT
04-07-2013, 12:03
Hope it works for you, Tim. At least big screen TVs have come so far down in price that it would be easy to reacquire one if you need.

Mark Grant
04-07-2013, 12:48
I am just about to buy an ASUS 27" (https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/MX279H/) screen and with my Mini-T, HRT DAC, Celestion setup



Looking at your link to the Asus site it looked expensive as it looks so bling, but it is only £276 at scan :)

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/27-asus-mx279h-ips-led-monitor-1920x1080-5ms-250cd-m-80m1-bang-and-olufsen-icepower-audio-black-silv

ideal for a streaming pc/ spotify etc if you don't need tv tuners.

Tim
04-07-2013, 13:29
£274 at Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-MX279H-Widescreen-Multimedia-SonicMaster/dp/B00A4K9KBQ/ref=sr_1_1/278-3297407-4086412?ie=UTF8&qid=1372944393&sr=8-1&keywords=mx279h) Mark ;)

As its going to sit in the dining room it needs to be pleasing on the eye, as well as performing a function, so I think it meets both those criteria.

Exactly Martin, I'm not cutting an arm off, I can always buy another one and TBH being 3 years old now, its out of date anyway :lol:

MartinT
04-07-2013, 14:48
My Samsung SyncMaster S27C450B 27" monitor is rather nice ;)

Tim
04-07-2013, 16:30
My Samsung SyncMaster S27C450B 27" monitor is rather nice ;)
I did look at that Martin, as my current monitor is a Samsung - but I need 2 x HDMI inputs and a less 'industrial' look appeals too. OK in an office environment, but a bit too masculine for the dining room ;)

MartinT
04-07-2013, 16:47
I did look at that Martin, as my current monitor is a Samsung - but I need 2 x HDMI inputs and a less 'industrial' look appeals too. OK in an office environment, but a bit too masculine for the dining room ;)

Yep, fair comment! Superb picture quality at 1920 x 1080, though.

MartinT
04-07-2013, 18:23
For the sake of clarity, since I listed only current series and Tim included some past, these are my top five all-time drama series:

1. Game of Thrones
2. Battlestar Galactica
3. West Wing
4. The Sopranos
5. House

There are many other very satisfying series, but the above, for me, surpass anything else ever made.

Tim
31-07-2013, 21:01
My licence runs out at midnight tonight . . . I have already had an email 'reminder' :eyebrows:

pjdowns
31-07-2013, 21:25
3. West Wing

Brilliant series, I have the DVD box set and my wife and I ritually watch it between September and Christmas each year :) :)

pjdowns
31-07-2013, 21:26
My licence runs out at midnight tonight . . . I have already had an email 'reminder' :eyebrows:

We have it setup as a direct debit so never have to worry about that :)

ceejaydee
31-07-2013, 21:27
We only watch certain things which are recorded on the HD box and the TV often goes for weeks without being turned on.
If I lived on my own I wouldn't have one and before I met my good lady I only used my screen for watching videos or playing games rather than actually watching broadcast programmes... Didn't even have an aerial.

pjdowns
31-07-2013, 21:40
We only watch certain things which are recorded on the HD box and the TV often goes for weeks without being turned on.
If I lived on my own I wouldn't have one and before I met my good lady I only used my screen for watching videos or playing games rather than actually watching broadcast programmes... Didn't even have an aerial.

These days anything we do watch is more often than not a recording via the Sky HD box. It works out so much better as you can skip through any adverts etc!

Usually (like tonight) we watch films via the Apple TV or DVD's that we've hired from LOVEFiLM :)

The Grand Wazoo
31-07-2013, 22:10
My licence runs out at midnight tonight . . . I have already had an email 'reminder' :eyebrows:

Prepare to be treated as guilty until proven innocent!

On Saturday we were at our house in Lincolnshire - there's no TV there, nor has there been for 4 years. We used to constantly inform them of the status of the house but we've realised we were wasting our time. Every time we go over there, I sort the junk mail out but it kind of accumulates in one place & then gets jettisoned every few months. I chucked out 17 letters from those idiots on Saturday and it was an extraordinarily wide range of different coloured letters, displaying an exotic variety of threats and admonishments!

The annual cost of the letters and 'surprise' visits must total far in excess of the value of the licence fee.

pjdowns
31-07-2013, 22:16
Prepare to be treated as guilty until proven innocent!

On Saturday we were at our house in Lincolnshire - there's no TV there, nor has there been for 4 years. We used to constantly inform them of the status of the house but we've realised we were wasting our time. Every time we go over there, I sort the junk mail out but it kind of accumulates in one place & then gets jettisoned every few months. I chucked out 17 letters from those idiots on Saturday and it was an extraordinarily wide range of different coloured letters, displaying an exotic variety of threats and admonishments!

The annual cost of the letters and 'surprise' visits must total far in excess of the value of the licence fee.

:lol: shows where our TV licence fee's are spent ay!

Tim
31-07-2013, 22:23
Prepare to be treated as guilty until proven innocent!
Well in my warped 'I like a good verbal scrap' kind of way, I'm looking forward to having a go at the buggers should they decide to descend on me. I really object to the whole prove you are innocent crap, which you may understand. I'll let them into the main living area only and make them feel uncomfortable doing it too - if they want to come back a second time they are going to need a warrant, as they have no power of entry without one.

pjdowns
31-07-2013, 22:29
You go Tim, it's about time the buggers get what for .... and don't even get me started on Council tax... it's ok for them to hold on for months before giving monies back but if I we fail to pay them for more than a month they slap a CCJ or something similar on you... complete and total bastards!!

The Grand Wazoo
31-07-2013, 22:39
I used to enjoy it at first!
We got the same treatment when we only had a black & white set. They simply refused to accept that human beings could live their lives without access to a colour television. However, they've never set foot inside the house - not once. I wouldn't allow it and they didn't push to do so once refused.

Tim
01-08-2013, 07:06
I was thinking about this in the shower this morning and I might try and have a laugh with this one, not sure I'll be able to pull it off without bursting into fits of laughter, but I'm going to give it a go. Basically I live in a flat with a video entry phone, so any callers need to announce who they are before getting into the building. I'm going to keep a tin foil hat near the front door and put it on if they call. I'll attempt (shouldn't be too hard for me) to act like a conspiracy loony and at the same time make them feel uncomfortable whilst they carry out their enquiry . . . bring it on :D

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcThM0HwqarrjtsDLMSFkaivsZ3iGTurJ jEFfKKGvUpoIYESSxEL

The Grand Wazoo
01-08-2013, 07:21
Ha!
It occurred to me once that it might be fun to have a TV in the house and on view from one of the front windows but to have emptied the cabinet of it's electronics and to have removed the aerial socket. It might be fun to stick 'appropriate' images on it!

http://www.ecpat.org.uk/sites/default/files/scales-of-justice-.jpg

http://familyrights.azproject.org/files/2012/11/accusation-evidence1.jpg

walpurgis
01-08-2013, 08:17
Well in my warped 'I like a good verbal scrap' kind of way, I'm looking forward to having a go at the buggers should they decide to descend on me. I really object to the whole prove you are innocent crap, which you may understand. I'll let them into the main living area only and make them feel uncomfortable doing it too - if they want to come back a second time they are going to need a warrant, as they have no power of entry without one.

Do not let them in and do not identify yourself (check out the legal reasons). Just tell them to P*ss off if they call, you do not need to speak to them or to correspond in any way. If you suffer harassment, you can threaten an injunction (at their cost) and get one if need be.

Tim
01-08-2013, 09:05
Do not let them in and do not identify yourself (check out the legal reasons). Just tell them to P*ss off if they call, you do not need to speak to them or to correspond in any way. If you suffer harassment, you can threaten an injunction (at their cost) and get one if need be.
Nah, I want to have some sport with them - I do know exactly what they can and cannot do on a legal front and at no time will I be offensive or non-compliant, that's not me and could cause me problems if I am anything other than civil, but I wouldn't be offensive anyway as that's not in my nature, unless of course they are offensive to me, then the gloves would come off. It also doesn't work and just brings a spotlight of attention onto you.

Love the pictures Chris, maybe I should put them on the wall where a TV would normally go :lol:

Tim
01-08-2013, 11:05
All seems rather painless TBH and I have a feeling they may not even bother me with a visit having fully researched how the process works. Just a simple on-line declaration, they will obviously now do credit checks etc., to make an assessment and decide if I'm an honest person, so I have a feeling I won't get bothered..... we shall see?

The hassle seems to start if you don't renew and ignore them, tell them to * off or deny them access to the property should they wish to do a physical check.

Maybe I won't get to have my fun with them after all :(

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/tvlicence_zpsafedef8d.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/greatgig/media/tvlicence_zpsafedef8d.jpg.html)

The Grand Wazoo
01-08-2013, 16:50
That'll last for a bit

synsei
01-08-2013, 18:11
IIRC there is currently a loophole in the TV Licensing laws which allows viewing of On Demand TV (such as through BBC iPlayer) without a TV licence as long you have no equipment in the dwelling capable of receiving real time (scheduled) programming, however the BBC have asked the government to look into closing it.

Barry
01-08-2013, 18:54
The TV licence is a licence to receive in real time, that is, at the same time as the programs are broadcast. You do not need a licence to watch items on iPlayer, since these are only made available after the original transmission.

synsei
01-08-2013, 19:20
The TV license is a license to receive in real time, that is, at the same time as the programs are broadcast. You do not need a license to watch items on iPlayer, since these are only made available after the original transmission.

'Real time', that's the term my addled brain was trying to come up with, post amended. Thanks Barry... :lol: It is possible to view real time TV shows on iPlayer too Barry ;)

Tim
02-08-2013, 08:42
The correct terminology is at the same time as it's being broadcast, not necessarily 'live'. There is a legal action going on between TV Licensing and a company who provide an app called TVCatchup that has a built in time delay, so its not 'live', but is going out at the time the program is being broadcast - not sure how that's progressing?

It matters not if you watch it on an iPhone, tablet, PC or a television, if you are watching at the same time as it's being broadcast, you need a licence. This is a step forward from the past when you needed a licence for the receiving equipment.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/licence_zps8c10b197.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/greatgig/media/licence_zps8c10b197.jpg.html)

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/

walpurgis
02-08-2013, 09:47
The correct terminology is at the same time as it's being broadcast, not necessarily 'live'. There is a legal action going on between TV Licensing and a company who provide an app called TVCatchup that has a built in time delay, so its not 'live', but is going out at the time the program is being broadcast - not sure how that's progressing?

It matters not if you watch it on an iPhone, tablet, PC or a television, if you are watching at the same time as it's being broadcast, you need a licence. This is a step forward from the past when you needed a licence for the receiving equipment.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/licence_zps8c10b197.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/greatgig/media/licence_zps8c10b197.jpg.html)

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/

Sounds like they're onto a loser. If you choose to use a delaying method, it doesn't alter the fact that the transmission was received live.

pjdowns
02-08-2013, 14:32
Sounds like they're onto a loser. If you choose to use a delaying method, it doesn't alter the fact that the transmission was received live.

I agree with Geoff but I still think we're all being conned!

Tim
26-07-2018, 14:48
Well I took the advice of the majority and didn't renew my licence in August 2103 and I still haven't. I kept the TV for awhile for Netflix, but sold it and have been without a TV since 2014.

I don't miss it at all, I guess I'm totally out of the habit of watching TV. I didn't have one in China either, asked my landlady to get rid of it as soon as I moved in, which seemed to upset her as it was BNIB and purchased especially for the rental of the apartment!

I go to the movies at least twice a week, gigs normally 50+ a year and the theatre occasionally. At home I read, listen to music and watch YouTube on a tablet to learn stuff and watch documentaries. Never say never, but I don't plan on having one again anytime soon, certainly not until I'm too old to not go out or do other stuff. It's very liberating, not for everyone I know, but for me . . . :D

(oh and the CAPITA bastards have never come to my door to check either!)

struth
26-07-2018, 15:03
still on my agenda.. hardly use it for live broadcasts.

Pigmy Pony
26-07-2018, 19:07
I've heard of people converting vintage TV sets into fish tanks. Doing that with current flat screens might be a bit cruel though.

Tim
26-07-2018, 23:13
still on my agenda.. hardly use it for live broadcasts.
I really enjoy life without one Grant, nothing really to miss as I'm not a football fan but do enjoy Rugby, as I'm in Wales I'm not alone. There's a good pub 5 mins walk away with a big screen to watch Ireland (goes down a treat me shouting for them!)

Without a TV you can arrange your lounge around your Hi-Fi too :)

hifinutt
27-07-2018, 19:58
Love the tv really,just watching the proms and the recent series on building London's sewers was incredibly interesting

Barry
27-07-2018, 20:39
I'm not adverse to watching some TV. There are some very interesting programmes on BBC4.

When I bought my house, I deliberately put the TV in a different room from the lounge as that is where the hi fi is. Also I didn't wan't to fall into the habit of switching on the TV when I came home from work and spend the rest of the evening aimlessly 'channel hopping'.

So now I ring the programmes I want to watch in the Radio Times, and when they are on go upstairs to watch, and then when the programme has finished switch the TV off and come downstairs and listen to some music.

struth
27-07-2018, 20:54
Wouldn't get rid of tv just not use the aerial Ive got my Apple TV Amazon prime and stuff Ive got on hard drives plus all my DVDs

Joe
27-07-2018, 21:56
When I bought my house, I deliberately put the TV in a different room from the lounge as that is where the hi fi is. Also I didn't wan't to fall into the habit of switching on the TV when I came home from work and spend the rest of the evening aimlessly 'channel hopping'.


I've never done that. I think my early exposure to many hours of shite TV when I was a nipper meant that I never wanted or needed to watch much TV. In fact, for most of the time between leaving school and buying my first flat, I was TV-less, so that's about a decade's worth of television that passed me by. Then, when I had children of my own, they tended to occupy the room the TV was in, leaving me to listen to music in peace. Now, I watch maybe a couple of hours of 'normal' TV a week, plus a film or two on Amazon Prime (most recently 'The Shining').

KindOfDaz
27-07-2018, 22:03
I do have a "TV" at home in the shape of LED panel with the tuner built-in, but I do not use it for watching TV. I use it to display content streamed from "Apple TV" box, which again would not be actual TV, but films and music I own on iTunes, Amazon or You Tube plus my own films and photographs. I also use my "TV" LED panel combined with blu-ray player. I haven't been watching TV at home for over two years now and I rarely miss it. But I do listen to the radio, which I found way better, in a sense of content choice, quality and presentation, than TV. So yes, get rid of your TV now and free your mind.

Marco
27-07-2018, 22:04
So now I ring the programmes I want to watch in the Radio Times, and when they are on go upstairs to watch, and then when the programme has finished switch the TV off and come downstairs and listen to some music.

Lol - that's *so* very you, Barry, and quaintly old-fashioned!:)

If you had a modern flat-screen smart TV, with a channel guide, you wouldn't need a Radio Times to show you what was on TV (plus set certain programmes to be recorded if necessary), and the programme information is right up-to-date, unlike anything in printed format, which is often quickly outdated - and just think how more environmentally friendly the saving in all that wasted paper would be!;)

Anyway, since installing my home-cinema system, I'd now never be without a TV, as aside from the host of programmes Del and I like to watch, it also acts as the hub for our watching of movies/DVDs and Blurays, and doubles as a screen for displaying both Internet content, and music content on my hard-drives, or when listening to music on Spotify or Tidal.

Like you however, as you know, I have the TV in a different room from my main hi-fi system, simply because for maximum enjoyment I believe in keeping both things separate, especially as I use a dedicated AV amplifier and speakers for movies.

In the wintertime especially, the TV/home-cinema and music system downstairs in our lounge is a valuable addition to our home, and essential to while away the long, dark nights, so I wouldn't be without it!:cool:

Marco.

Pharos
27-07-2018, 22:39
The plight of becoming non selective TV watcher is something to avoid IMO; it wastes time and results in adverse personal psychological programming.

There are some good things on, on BBC4 for example, but my having the TV in the centre of the Hi-Fi is deliberate, the intent to have effectively a media centre which allows; Surfing the web, (lectures articles, general education, and I gather, many radio stations), Emailing from 10' with a large screen, streaming films from various bought services, and also streaming music form various bought services.

I have not yet decided the configuration which will best provide these, but it seems an Apple TV, or more likely, a Mac mini + wireless keyboard will be the solution. I do not want trailing HDMI leads to be unplugged every day.

mikmas
27-07-2018, 23:00
... but it seems an Apple TV, or more likely, a Mac mini + wireless keyboard will be the solution.

I have both but would definitely recommend the Mac Mini above Apple TV which would really need an iPad to achieve all the functions you seek but would still be less than ideal.

Also, having tried all manner of wired and wireless peripheral combinations with Macs for more than twenty years, I would absolutely recommend a Logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse above wireless (the best I have ever encountered). I would definitely avoid any keyboard or mouse from Apple themselves - I have always found them vastly over-priced, limited in functions, of poor quality and totally unreliable.

montesquieu
27-07-2018, 23:01
I haven't had a TV for about 14 years. I lived without one for much of the 80s and early 90s when I was a daily newspaper journalist working shifts and never in in the evening, then I moved to New Zealand for several years through to the mid 90s and never bought a TV either. So I got used to it.

When I lived in New Zealand I used to go to a mate's house to watch Star Trek: TNG, and Star Trek (Voyager and DS9) was about the only thing I watched when I did have a TV through the late 90s and early 00s, which was mainly used to entertain the kids when they were small.

I see no need for a TV - I have a few web and magazine subscriptions, I read a lot of books, and my evenings are largely spent cooking, eating or listening to music.

Occasionally I join up one of the streaming services if there's something I want to binge-watch on the laptop. (Did that with Game of Thrones last year). In reality the only time I miss TV is on election night.

I don't go much to movies either - the only time I ever see them is on regular long haul flights to Asia. I had an ex who used to drag me to horror movies and 30 years later I still get sweaty palms going into cinemas (my body anticipating some gory shocker even if it's only Mission Impossible).

The down side is huge distraction if I'm anywhere there's a screen with something on, my attention gets sucked into it as it's an unusual thing for me, I'm also extremely intolerant to random/ambient crap music which I suspect people get de-sensitised to if they watch much TV.

EDIT bloody hell this is a thread resurrection and a half!

Marco
27-07-2018, 23:08
I read a lot of books, and my evenings are largely spent cooking, eating or listening to music.


Nice one. Well, we'd like to hear more about what you've been cooking, or listening to, on the respective food ['What's for lunch or tea today?'] and music threads;)

Marco.

mikmas
27-07-2018, 23:32
My wife works a 3 shift rota but when the time is right we like to watch a lot of TV drama together (just finished the BBC Wales series 'Hidden' - totally gripping and superb acting) and also catch quite a few comedy shows, so doing without a reasonable sized screen is not really an option - we find a 32 inch more than enough for comfortable viewing. Also use Apple TV occasionally to screen mirror stuff we've come across online.

If my wife is at work I rarely watch TV but did get hooked on 'Antiques Road Show' and 'Homes Under the Hammer' for a while after I retired (particularly during the Winter months...)

oldius
28-07-2018, 05:28
My wife works a 3 shift rota but when the time is right we like to watch a lot of TV drama together (just finished the BBC Wales series 'Hidden' - totally gripping and superb acting) and also catch quite a few comedy shows, so doing without a reasonable sized screen is not really an option - we find a 32 inch more than enough for comfortable viewing. Also use Apple TV occasionally to screen mirror stuff we've come across online.

If my wife is at work I rarely watch TV but did get hooked on 'Antiques Road Show' and 'Homes Under the Hammer' for a while after I retired (particularly during the Winter months...)Hiddem was quite brilliant and wonderfully acted.

Pete The Cat
28-07-2018, 06:53
After starting a family I found that I rarely had control of the TV and after a while I didn't really miss it. It meant that I had more time for other stuff. iPlayer etc show the high quality series anyway (The Bridge, The Fall, Broadchurch kind of things).

Must admit I've been struggling with Hidden since three episodes in the pace feels slow, I'll persevere though.

Pete

Macca
28-07-2018, 07:14
The plight of becoming non selective TV watcher is something to avoid IMO; it wastes time and results in adverse personal psychological programming.

.

Very good point this. Whilst I like my telly a lot I always tape everything I want to watch in advance so I can fast-forward the adverts. And I never watch the news or current affairs programmes. Mostly I watch 'proper telly' from the 1970s and early 1980s when shows were solely intended to be entertaining and not thinly disguised vehicles for brainwashing re gender/cultural/social issues.

Primalsea
28-07-2018, 08:54
Buy a little computer, like a Raspberry Pi and set the TV up so it just shows a rolling update of of the AOS Whatís New webpage...

Marco
28-07-2018, 10:39
Very good point this. Whilst I like my telly a lot I always tape everything I want to watch in advance so I can fast-forward the adverts. And I never watch the news or current affairs programmes. Mostly I watch 'proper telly' from the 1970s and early 1980s when shows were solely intended to be entertaining and not thinly disguised vehicles for brainwashing re gender/cultural/social issues.

Hear, hear! :clap:

Although I can't help sniggering at "tape". We've been here before;)

Marco.

Gazjam
28-07-2018, 11:45
Got rid of my "broadcast TV" a couple of years ago when I realized that realistically I was watching maybe 5% of what I was paying for.
Why am I giving money away every month says I? :doh:
The idea of coming in from work, slumping down on the couch and turning on the idiot box and switching my brain off...naa.

Kept my TV and associated kit, just got rid of Virgin Media and never looked back.
Netflix, YouTube and a whole universe of online stuff...watch what you want when it suits you, and spend the money on Blurays.

Works for me. :)

Macca
28-07-2018, 11:50
The idea of coming in from work, slumping down on the couch and turning on the idiot box and switching my brain off...naa.

)

I don't do that every night but I do like to be able to do it. My brain sometimes needs switching off after a day at work.

Gazjam
28-07-2018, 13:04
I don't do that every night but I do like to be able to do it. My brain sometimes needs switching off after a day at work.

I hear ya.

used to kinda lose myself in it.
Before I knew it hours had passed!

Probably not disciplined enough to resist...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Finrp-FWf2M/hqdefault.jpg

Marco
28-07-2018, 13:05
Got rid of my "broadcast TV" a couple of years ago when I realized that realistically I was watching maybe 5% of what I was paying for.
Why am I giving money away every month says I? :doh:
The idea of coming in from work, slumping down on the couch and turning on the idiot box and switching my brain off...naa.

Kept my TV and associated kit, just got rid of Virgin Media and never looked back.
Netflix, YouTube and a whole universe of online stuff...watch what you want when it suits you, and spend the money on Blurays.

Works for me...

And would work for most folk who had no interest in watching live sports and/or following certain continued dramas, broadcast on certain TV channels, and sometimes wishes to record them (if they're out) onto a set-top box, such as is available from the likes of Virgin and Sky.

Unfortunately, as that's the case, what works for you doesn't work for me:)

In terms of TV, I watch it much more to be entertained, than educated (or 'intellectually taxed'), so that's why some mindless 'disposable froth', after a hard day at work, or in my case, just simply because that's what hits the spot, is what is desirable.

Marco.

struth
28-07-2018, 13:20
Still toying with the idea. its expensive the licence, for all i watch it... almost always use my own stuff or netflix etc at night. i often have the yesterday channel on for company during day, but mostly could do without i think.

Gazjam
28-07-2018, 13:55
Of course, different strokes different folks...
Wisnae saying otherwise ;)

Big Live Sport events I tend to watch in the Pub anyways, dont miss F1 on C4 to be honest, though might get the Sky Sports F1 Add on for next season as it seems to be picking up again.
Be different too if the spawn hadn't grown up and moved out.
Just depends on your own circumstances.




And would work for most folk who had no interest in watching live sports and/or following certain continued dramas, broadcast on certain TV channels, and sometimes wishes to record them (if they're out) onto a set-top box, such as is available from the likes of Virgin and Sky.

Unfortunately, as that's the case, what works for you doesn't work for me:)

In terms of TV, I watch it much more to be entertained, than educated (or 'intellectually taxed'), so that's why some mindless 'disposable froth', after a hard day at work, or in my case, just simply because that's what hits the spot, is what is desirable.

Marco.

Marco
28-07-2018, 15:45
Of course, different strokes different folks...
Wisnae saying otherwise ;)

Big Live Sport events I tend to watch in the Pub anyways, dont miss F1 on C4 to be honest, though might get the Sky Sports F1 Add on for next season as it seems to be picking up again.
Be different too if the spawn hadn't grown up and moved out.
Just depends on your own circumstances.

Yups, no worries, muchacho. In terms of lives sports, and it's mainly SPL footy and Celtic games I'm interested in, I'm sure you can appreciate why I'd feel safer and more comfortable watching it at home, than in a pub, certainly in Glasgow!;)

Marco.

Gazjam
28-07-2018, 15:50
You utter Wuss!
:D

Buy...yeah, your right.

Marco
28-07-2018, 19:09
Lol - I've been in plenty of Celtic and Rangers pubs in the past, and enjoyed a bit of banter with the reasonable Rangers supporters, but I don't really miss that down here, and in general I prefer putting my feet up in the comfort of my own home, with a beer, whilst watching the footy, then being sat in a noisy pub:)

Marco.

Barry
28-07-2018, 22:33
Still toying with the idea. its expensive the licence, for all i watch it... almost always use my own stuff or netflix etc at night. i often have the yesterday channel on for company during day, but mostly could do without i think.

You still pay for TV whether you watch it or not, or even own a TV.

Tim
29-07-2018, 00:00
You still pay for TV whether you watch it or not, or even own a TV.

That's not the case any more Barry, used to be, but the rules have changed over the years. The licence used to apply to just owning the equipment, now it relates to the use of said equipment. You can own and watch anything you like on a TV without a licence, such as Netflix, DVDs, media files, on demand services and so on, as long as it's not broadcast programming (any channel) that you watch at the time of broadcast, or record to watch later. You also need a licence for the iPlayer now, which you didn't a few years ago.


"You need to be covered by a licence to watch or download almost all BBC programmes on iPlayer. At the moment, there are just a few exceptions – watching S4C TV on demand, listening to radio, and watching films or TV shows you’ve bought on the BBC Store. There may be other exceptions in the future.

Remember, you also need a TV Licence to watch or record any live TV programmes on any channel, no matter what device you use"

Do I need a TV Licence for all on demand programmes?

No. You don’t need a licence if you only ever watch on demand or catch up programmes on services other than BBC iPlayer* (and you also never watch live TV programmes on any channel, including on iPlayer).
You don’t need to be covered by a licence to watch any films or TV shows that you buy online.
*You don’t need a licence to watch S4C TV on demand or listen to radio on iPlayer. You also don’t need one to watch films or TV shows on iPlayer that you’ve bought on the BBC Store.

Source (http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/bbc-iplayer-and-the-tv-licence)

They also have to prove you have been watching broadcast TV, either by physically seeing/hearing it occur and then confirm by entry, with a warrant if you refuse entry.

So just owning a TV these days does not require a licence.

Funny . . . your comment about the Radio Times? I used to do exactly the same, read through and then circle what I wanted to watch. I even had one of those leather Radio Times covers! What a daftee Marco is, on-line programming guides indeed - and him the lover of all things vintage ;)

narabdela
29-07-2018, 08:11
...and enjoyed a bit of banter with the reasonable Rangers supporters.


:lol::lol::lol:


:sofa:

Marco
29-07-2018, 08:11
Funny . . . your comment about the Radio Times? I used to do exactly the same, read through and then circle what I wanted to watch. I even had one of those leather Radio Times covers! What a daftee Marco is, on-line programming guides indeed - and him the lover of all things vintage ;)

Lol... Much as I love vintage things, I'll avail myself of technology if the function it's providing is no-brainer better than its vintage counterpart, and in this case it is!

Marco.

Marco
29-07-2018, 08:12
:lol::lol::lol:


:sofa:

Ha - yes there are some!:D

Marco.

Tim
29-07-2018, 15:06
. . . and in this case it is!
I would actually agree with you, but I was surprised to hear you say it ;)

Marco
29-07-2018, 16:25
Nah, if something's obviously better, it's better. I'm not irrationally anachronistic! :)

Marco.

Barry
29-07-2018, 20:34
That's not the case any more Barry, used to be, but the rules have changed over the years. The licence used to apply to just owning the equipment, now it relates to the use of said equipment. You can own and watch anything you like on a TV without a licence, such as Netflix, DVDs, media files, on demand services and so on, as long as it's not broadcast programming (any channel) that you watch at the time of broadcast, or record to watch later. You also need a licence for the iPlayer now, which you didn't a few years ago.

And how are the costs of programme-making paid for? Through advertising, and who pays for the adverts? Anybody who buys the products, as the advertising costs are factored into the sale price - so applies to all those who buy the product regardless of if they watch TV or not.

struth
29-07-2018, 20:47
I never had a tv program on today again. Lol

Pharos
29-07-2018, 22:02
Thank you very much Mike for your post 100 which is very helpful.

Of course I am trying to avoid all the mistake making with compatibility problems and dysfunctions which occur with apparently numerous attempts at solutions, and which of course the equipment makers must love.

I agree entirely about Logitech from my limited experience, which is a wireless mouse for my studio Mac.

Tim
29-07-2018, 22:33
And how are the costs of programme-making paid for? Through advertising, and who pays for the adverts? Anybody who buys the products, as the advertising costs are factored into the sale price - so applies to all those who buy the product regardless of if they watch TV or not.
I'm totally confused now Barry, I think my wires have been crossed as I was talking about the licence fee and how it's changed . . . or maybe you are? I can be a bit slow at times, I'm not getting any younger you know ;)

Barry
29-07-2018, 22:59
All I was trying to say was that even if you don't own a TV and never watch TV, you still pay for it if you buy the products that are advertised on the commercial TV channels.

Tim
30-07-2018, 07:42
Ah, a tad oblique for my intellect - I'll never know the answer to that one, as I don't watch adverts. So I'm happy to remain blissfully ignorant.

Might buy one again when I'm a real old codger with nothing better to do, but until that day . . . . :)

Pete The Cat
13-08-2018, 18:43
Must admit I've been struggling with Hidden since three episodes in the pace feels slow, I'll persevere though.

Pete

Well, Iíve clawed my way to the end of episode 4 of Hidden. On the upside it was easy to remember the plot after not watching for a few weeks since not much has happened so far (The Bridge it ainít). Unfortunately it has become even harder work than previously, like inching up the south face of Annapurna by tooth and nail. Every moment is now taking a huge effort to hang in there. Itís just so slowÖ :zzz:

Iíve challenged myself to appreciate that itís about atmosphere and realism, and that too much modern film and TV spoon feeds pace and action. But whole minutes of Hidden eke out mundanity and as if to test me further episode 4 pushed this to the maximum. Someone opens a door, they walk into a room, they walk to the end of it, they stop and they sigh. So what ? Itís painful :( Mrs C bailed out midway so Iím on my own now.

The characters, while shuffling pointlessly around, donít develop unlike say in Broadchurch. They donít do anything that alters your understanding of or empathy towards them. My fascination with Dylanís Inspiral Carpets haircut wore off some time ago. Little new plot or information emerges.

It seems to me that there are two kinds of crime drama. The ďwhodunnitĒ, where the story has the advantage of covering twists and turns in identifying the culprit, or, those where the culprit is known early on. The latter have to meet the challenge of retaining interest. The Fall was like that and the culprit had a family, job and local community to interact with, as well as cat-and-mouse with the police. Great thriller. However with his victim unconscious, Dylan in Hidden had almost nothing to interact with in episode 4 apart from his truck and his grumpy mother. It was a brave decision (I think Iím being kind here) by Hiddenís writers to get the two of them to sustain most of the hour when neither can manage more than a sentence, a long stare and chopping some wood.

Iím torn now since Iíve spent 4 hours of my life on it - does episode 5 leap forward ? :scratch: Watching it is like being stuck in a hut in a drizzly forest with nothing to do. Or is that the point ?

All merely my humble opinion :)

Pete

struth
20-09-2018, 11:09
finally got rid of tv licence. since my last thought on it ive watched tv approximately 0 times... so its gone. lets hope it goes smoothly

Macca
20-09-2018, 12:10
All those murder things are essentially the same story. I avoid any TV show that is about a murder mystery and anything set in a hospital. The only problem with that is it means there are no drama shows that I watch anymore as they are all one or the other. And don't get me started on that Scandanavian crap that seems to be all the rage now. Like watching paint dry.

Even though I've got all the channels it gets harder and harder to find anything worth watching. I don't like any of the new shows and all the old stuff I've seen a dozen times.

Documentries are most of my watching but the new series of 'Ancient Aliens' is just re-treading old ground. And whilst Hitler, WW2 and the Nazis is a big topic to cover I get the feeling that even that is almost exhausted.

So might get rid myself if it doesn't pick up in the next 6 months.

Spectral Morn
20-09-2018, 12:47
Well, I’ve clawed my way to the end of episode 4 of Hidden. On the upside it was easy to remember the plot after not watching for a few weeks since not much has happened so far (The Bridge it ain’t). Unfortunately it has become even harder work than previously, like inching up the south face of Annapurna by tooth and nail. Every moment is now taking a huge effort to hang in there. It’s just so slow… :zzz:

I’ve challenged myself to appreciate that it’s about atmosphere and realism, and that too much modern film and TV spoon feeds pace and action. But whole minutes of Hidden eke out mundanity and as if to test me further episode 4 pushed this to the maximum. Someone opens a door, they walk into a room, they walk to the end of it, they stop and they sigh. So what ? It’s painful :( Mrs C bailed out midway so I’m on my own now.

The characters, while shuffling pointlessly around, don’t develop unlike say in Broadchurch. They don’t do anything that alters your understanding of or empathy towards them. My fascination with Dylan’s Inspiral Carpets haircut wore off some time ago. Little new plot or information emerges.

It seems to me that there are two kinds of crime drama. The “whodunnit”, where the story has the advantage of covering twists and turns in identifying the culprit, or, those where the culprit is known early on. The latter have to meet the challenge of retaining interest. The Fall was like that and the culprit had a family, job and local community to interact with, as well as cat-and-mouse with the police. Great thriller. However with his victim unconscious, Dylan in Hidden had almost nothing to interact with in episode 4 apart from his truck and his grumpy mother. It was a brave decision (I think I’m being kind here) by Hidden’s writers to get the two of them to sustain most of the hour when neither can manage more than a sentence, a long stare and chopping some wood.

I’m torn now since I’ve spent 4 hours of my life on it - does episode 5 leap forward ? :scratch: Watching it is like being stuck in a hut in a drizzly forest with nothing to do. Or is that the point ?

All merely my humble opinion :)

Pete

My main motivation there was Gillian Anderson.

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/X-Files-Gillian-Anderson-BBC-The-Fall-UploadExpress-Vicki-Power-713254.jpg

She looked fabulous and her acting was very good as well.

Macca
20-09-2018, 14:39
She was my dad's favourite.

No longer at the height of her powers, though.

Gazjam
30-09-2018, 15:22
finally got rid of tv licence. since my last thought on it ive watched tv approximately 0 times... so its gone. lets hope it goes smoothly

Netflix, Netflix, Netflix

havent looked back since getting rid of mine.
Broadcast stuff you think you’ll maybe miss, (my case F1) theres ways to get it. (No, dont mean Pirate Bay)

struth
30-09-2018, 15:37
Netflix, Netflix, Netflix

havent looked back since getting rid of mine.
Broadcast stuff you think youíll maybe miss, (my case F1) theres ways to get it. (No, dont mean Pirate Bay)

Not missed it yet gaz... more use of netflix, and amazon which i have, and my apple library that has a good few films in it. Plus all my dvds and bluray...been rewatching my Simpson boxsets this week.
Plus more time for music... spending too much time alas in bed these days.

Gazjam
30-09-2018, 15:46
You say that like lying in bed is a bad thing... :)

Tim
23-11-2019, 13:26
Just thought I'd pop back in this thread to confirm I still don't own a television. I'm apparently one of the 5% of UK households who don't have one.

I quite like being one of the minority :D

struth
23-11-2019, 13:30
Just thought I'd pop back in this thread to confirm I still don't own a television. I'm apparently one of the 5% of UK households who don't have one.

I quite like being one of the minority :D

Well i have them but no arial etc..

Pigmy Pony
23-11-2019, 16:13
Well i have them but no arial etc..

Probably better off without one, didn't do Rod Hull any good :(

Alex_UK
23-11-2019, 20:07
Just had a count up and we have 7 TVís in the house, for 4 people! Plus god knows how many laptops, tablets, phones etc. :eek:

walpurgis
23-11-2019, 20:20
I like watching TV. I can even find the occasional programme that isn't rubbish. :)

Barry
23-11-2019, 21:18
I can receive at least a 100 channels of crap on my 'smart' TV. Fortunately there's plenty to interest me on Freeview, be they documentaries, natural history programmes or current interest items.

I'm happy to pay the TV licence.

walpurgis
23-11-2019, 21:22
I can receive at least a 100 channels of crap on my 'smart' TV. Fortunately there's plenty to interest me on Freeview, be they documentaries, natural history programmes or current interest items.

I'm happy to pay the TV licence.

Same here. I find enough for my needs on Freeview.

Pharos
24-11-2019, 00:18
I think it's a mind number, and programmer. Years ago I decided soaps were out because they encouraged vicariousness and voyeurism. That includes police things and hospital things. I wont allow anything which has a description "Alan returns to farm and finds that Ella . . . . " etc.

News is dreadful and seems designed to intimidate us. Freeview films are kitsch repetition, and the only hope for me is BBC4, but that contains celebrity seeking academics who want glamour and travel rather than dedicated academic work.

Political programmes described as debate never get any truths arrived at by good debate, and the BBC vastly overpays many people who are apparently talentless.

Alex_UK
24-11-2019, 00:57
I have Sky, Netflix, Amazon Prime as well as Freeview and YouTube - but for some reason I frequently end up watching Bullseye from the 80's/90's... :doh: And I am now... "look what you could've won!" (A speedboat...)

Barry
24-11-2019, 02:03
I think it's a mind number, and programmer. Years ago I decided soaps were out because they encouraged vicariousness and voyeurism. That includes police things and hospital things. I wont allow anything which has a description "Alan returns to farm and finds that Ella . . . . " etc.

News is dreadful and seems designed to intimidate us. Freeview films are kitsch repetition, and the only hope for me is BBC4, but that contains celebrity seeking academics who want glamour and travel rather than dedicated academic work.

Political programmes described as debate never get any truths arrived at by good debate, and the BBC vastly overpays many people who are apparently talentless.

That certainly applies to some presenters I could name, but does not apply to academics such as Dr Helen Castor, Dr Jim Al-Khalili, Dr James Fox, et al. I probably watch more programmes on BBC4 than any other; only last night there was the first of a two part programme on the history of sound recording, which I found informative and fascinating.

I also like to watch programmes such as 'Only Connect', and 'University Challenge'. They help me to stop my brain from turning into porridge.

And there is my latest addiction: 'The Repair Shop'. I'm amazed by the skills of the craftspeople who repair and restore antique items that have great sentimental value for their owners.

walpurgis
24-11-2019, 08:43
Similar tastes to mine Barry.

I watch anything Jim Al-Khalili presents, he has a relaxed enthusiasm that I like. Rather similar to that of the marvellous Carl Sagan years ago.

'The Repair Shop' is also a must, it's nice to see such talents showcased. I can identify with them too, but draw the line at clock repairs.

Pigmy Pony
24-11-2019, 15:56
Just had a count up and we have 7 TVís in the house, for 4 people! Plus god knows how many laptops, tablets, phones etc. :eek:

Surprised you found time to make kids :D

hornucopia
24-11-2019, 19:08
1981, I spent 3 weeks travelling around Iceland, being completely out of touch with 'the World'/news etc..
Never bought a paper after that, realising it didn't really have much effect on my life.


(Nearly drowned when rolling the car into a freezing river there, which might have affected my life view a bit?)

Barry
24-11-2019, 21:17
1981, I spent 3 weeks travelling around Iceland, being completely out of touch with 'the World'/news etc..
Never bought a paper after that, realising it didn't really have much effect on my life.


(Nearly drowned when rolling the car into a freezing river there, which might have affected my life view a bit?)

I haven't bought a paper since 1980. But we're talking TV's here, and Icelandic TV is, I admit pretty boring to the casual observer, but not necessarily to Icelanders themselves.

struth
24-11-2019, 21:33
Blurays, dvds here, along with Netflix and my Amazon library and some on apple/Google . Also amazon prime.
Haven't seen live TV for a long time and don't miss it.

Don't remember last paper I bought

Landloper
24-11-2019, 21:45
Just thought I'd pop back in this thread to confirm I still don't own a television. I'm apparently one of the 5% of UK households who don't have one.

I quite like being one of the minority :D

Constant battle with TV licensing who live in a universe where everybody watches TV and the '5%' are a myth.

Landloper
24-11-2019, 22:01
1981, I spent 3 weeks travelling around Iceland, being completely out of touch with 'the World'/news etc..
Never bought a paper after that, realising it didn't really have much effect on my life.


(Nearly drowned when rolling the car into a freezing river there, which might have affected my life view a bit?)


'It is impossible to glance through any newspaper, no matter what the day, the month or the year, without finding on every line the most frightful traces of human perversity, together with the most astonishing boasts of probity, charity, and benevolence and the most brazen statements regarding the progress of civilization.

Every journal, from the first line to the last, is nothing but a tissue of horrors. Wars, crimes, thefts, lecheries, tortures, the evil deeds of princes, of nations, of private individuals; an orgy of universal atrocity.

And it is with this loathsome appetizer that civilized man daily washes down his morning repast. Everything in this world oozes crime: the newpaper, the street wall, and the human countenance.

I am unable to comprehend how a man of honor could take a newspaper in his hands without a shudder of disgust...'


(Baudelaire, Intimate Journals)

Pharos
24-11-2019, 22:17
Sales have fallen dramatically.

Marco
24-11-2019, 23:52
Good luck to Timbo (and others) who've given up on TV and are surviving nicely:)

Me? I watch too much Sport, dramas and food/cooking and music programmes (mainly on the BBC) to be able to give it up - and that will remain the case for as long as I'm able to watch a television.

Marco.

Tim
25-11-2019, 10:14
Constant battle with TV licensing who live in a universe where everybody watches TV and the '5%' are a myth.

Not had a battle yet, I wouldn't mind them knocking on my door actually, I could have a rant :lol: However, the assumption that everybody watches TV is annoying and the emphasis on the non-user having to prove that by responding to their threats, or letting them in to check - now that does piss me off. I might let them in once, but they'd need a warrant a second time.


Good luck to Timbo (and others) who've given up on TV and are surviving nicely :)

I know it's not for most people, being single it's easier for me to do what works best for me. I'm sure if I had a wife/kids, I'd never get away with it - probably wouldn't want to either. If I was into football it would be an issue too. I go to the local when a good rugby game is on, more fun with a crowd and a pint. I love going to the movies as you know and where most people would watch TV for entertainment most days, I go to the cinema instead and as I walk most of the way, or use a bus/train, then it gets me off my arse and out the house. Easy for me I know, it's only 4 miles away and it's a great 15 screen theatre. I also read a lot, go to live gigs and theatre, then listen to music the rest of the time, so I don't actually have time for it.

I guess it's a habit I've just got out of through circumstance and I've found I don't miss it. Of course if I ever lost mobility and was less able to get out and about, then I'd probably get one, if only to watch films.

:cool:

Spectral Morn
25-11-2019, 13:09
I am going to stop this December and not renew. I watch so little live TV that I can do without. I will maybe do britbox, but netflix and maybe amazon plus all the DVDs I have will cover the rest. I watch a lot of stuff on you tube.

The licencing threats I will bin

struth
25-11-2019, 13:11
I am going to stop this December and not renew. I watch so little live TV that I can do without. I will maybe do britbox, but netflix and maybe amazon plus all the DVDs I have will cover the rest. I watch a lot of stuff on you tube.

The licencing threats I will bin

ive not had one yet.

Spectral Morn
25-11-2019, 13:12
ive not had one yet.

I suppose one replies to the renewal email and says you no longer need one.

struth
25-11-2019, 13:14
I suppose one replies to the renewal email and says you no longer need one.

I phoned them and enquired about not needing one etc. they asked me a few questions and said i didnt need one and would sort it their end. Ive not heard from them since

Joe
25-11-2019, 15:01
We were TV-less for several years, until a couple of years ago when my elder daughter's then-boyfriend gave us his old TV as he was upgrading. I hardly watch it; any TV I see these days is via iPlayer on my laptop. I'm down to University Challenge and Have I Got News For You, plus the odd art/music programme on BBC4, and if I was told I could never watch TV ever again it wouldn't bother me. Sometimes I try a new drama series but inevitably stop watching it after an episode or two.

Marco
25-11-2019, 15:02
I know it's not for most people, being single it's easier for me to do what works best for me. I'm sure if I had a wife/kids, I'd never get away with it - probably wouldn't want to either. If I was into football it would be an issue too. I go to the local when a good rugby game is on, more fun with a crowd and a pint. I love going to the movies as you know and where most people would watch TV for entertainment most days, I go to the cinema instead and as I walk most of the way, or use a bus/train, then it gets me off my arse and out the house. Easy for me I know, it's only 4 miles away and it's a great 15 screen theatre. I also read a lot, go to live gigs and theatre, then listen to music the rest of the time, so I don't actually have time for it.

I guess it's a habit I've just got out of through circumstance and I've found I don't miss it. Of course if I ever lost mobility and was less able to get out and about, then I'd probably get one, if only to watch films.

:cool:

Not a problem, mate. We have different interests and lifestyles. Even if I were single, I'd still want a TV, for precisely the same stated reasons. Del's TV usage doesn't come into it, as married or single, I'd still be 'me'!:)

Totally get watching sport in a pub, whilst enjoying a few beers, especially with others who are 'like minded', preferably friends. It's a good vibe:cool:

Marco.

Marco
25-11-2019, 15:10
We were TV-less for several years, until a couple of years ago when my elder daughter's then-boyfriend gave us his old TV as he was upgrading. I hardly watch it; any TV I see these days is via iPlayer on my laptop. I'm down to University Challenge and Have I Got News For You, plus the odd art/music programme on BBC4, and if I was told I could never watch TV ever again it wouldn't bother me. Sometimes I try a new drama series but inevitably stop watching it after an episode or two.

All these fussy fuckers, eh?:D

;)

Marco.

Joe
25-11-2019, 15:16
All these fussy fuckers, eh?:D

;)

Marco.

Dramas are either adaptations of 'classics' (like the current dramatisation of 'War of the Worlds'), where they monkey around with the plot, introduce extra characters, and drag in some ahistorical politically-correct stuff, or, if they're 'new' drama series, they pile on the blood and gore, which I can't watch. I've never been a huge fan of television anyway, and I don't keep harping back to some supposed Golden Age of Television, because TV was just as shite back then, but for different reasons. I had to watch it back then, at least in the winter, because the TV was in the only room in the house that was actually warm!

Marco
25-11-2019, 15:34
Lol - I just chuckle, Joe, because we're *so* different!:D

I'm not a big reader, so chances are that any of the dramas you're referring to I won't have read 'first time round' (or seen in some other format), so have nothing really to judge them against. Plus, I tend not to scrutinise things that deeply... As long as there's some good 'action' and I'm kept entertained, I'm happy:)

So, among other dramas, I'm loving War of the Worlds, World on Fire, The Dublin Murders, and most recently, His Dark Materials: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b1v2

There so many shows I enjoy watching on TV that it would take me ages listing them all... Looking forward to watching The Repair Shop, which is on BBC1 shortly, followed by Flog It (anything involving antiques is of great interest), and later on, The Walking Dead, which is currently one of my (and Del's) favourite programmes!:cool:

Marco.

Oddball
25-11-2019, 18:23
All those murder things are essentially the same story. I avoid any TV show that is about a murder mystery and anything set in a hospital. The only problem with that is it means there are no drama shows that I watch anymore as they are all one or the other. And don't get me started on that Scandanavian crap that seems to be all the rage now. Like watching paint dry.

Even though I've got all the channels it gets harder and harder to find anything worth watching. I don't like any of the new shows and all the old stuff I've seen a dozen times.

Documentries are most of my watching but the new series of 'Ancient Aliens' is just re-treading old ground. And whilst Hitler, WW2 and the Nazis is a big topic to cover I get the feeling that even that is almost exhausted.

So might get rid myself if it doesn't pick up in the next 6 months.

Jamie Theakstone trying to find the Holy Grail or eek out a bit more about how the Nazis were inventing flying bells/saucers .. I expect most of it is probably bollocks!!!

However I do like Impossible Engineering World War Wierd and stuff like that !
The only problem is my knowledge of Tenna pants , simplicity funerals and dating for over 50,s is extensive ,and my son says the demographic Dad relates to you :rolleyes:


Mind you , my Bargain Hunt , Antique Road Trip viewing is extensive too. If not for glimpses of Roo, or that Kate Southern in her tight trousers

Barry
25-11-2019, 18:48
Lol - I just chuckle, Joe, because we're *so* different!:D

I'm not a big reader, so chances are that any of the dramas you're referring to I won't have read 'first time round' (or seen in some other format), so have nothing really to judge them against. Plus, I tend not to scrutinise things that deeply... As long as there's some good 'action' and I'm kept entertained, I'm happy:)

So, among other dramas, I'm loving War of the Worlds, World on Fire, The Dublin Murders, and most recently, His Dark Materials: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b1v2

There so many shows I enjoy watching on TV that it would take me ages listing them all... Looking forward to watching The Repair Shop, which is on BBC1 shortly, followed by Flog It (anything involving antiques is of great interest), and later on, The Walking Dead, which is currently one of my (and Del's) favourite programmes!:cool:

Marco.

+1 to the "Repair Shop". I'm totally addicted to it. "Flog it" is not bad, but I prefer "Bargain Hunt".

Regarding TV presentations of "classics" - all of them deviate to some extent from the books, as do film adaptations for the cinema. Some are better than
others and with the most of recent TV adaptations, the production values are very good - they look good, thus: "The Name of the Rose"; "The War of the Worlds" and "His Dark Materials" (although I didn't really enjoy reading Pullman's trilogy).

walpurgis
25-11-2019, 18:58
I've made a point of not watching 'The Name of The Rose' series. I think it would be disappointing after the superb 1986 movie and the novel by Umberto Eco, of which I still keep a copy.

Barry
25-11-2019, 19:11
I've made a point of not watching 'The Name of The Rose' series. I think it would be disappointing after the superb 1986 movie and the novel by Umberto Eco, of which I still keep a copy.

From what I have seen so far, I think the TV adaptation may be closer to the book, though the film was very good, it was somewhat 'sanitised'. The book is far grimmer.

Marco
25-11-2019, 19:48
+1 to the "Repair Shop". I'm totally addicted to it. "Flog it" is not bad, but I prefer "Bargain Hunt".

Regarding TV presentations of "classics" - all of them deviate to some extent from the books, as do film adaptations for the cinema. Some are better than
others and with the most of recent TV adaptations, the production values are very good - they look good, thus: "The Name of the Rose"; "The War of the Worlds" and "His Dark Materials" (although I didn't really enjoy reading Pullman's trilogy).

Yes I love Bargain Hunt, too! Pretty much any show involving antiques will hold my interest, as we have a few ourselves, and it broadens your knowledge as to what things are worth. In terms of "His Dark Materials", Del would like to read Pullman's trilogy, as she loves the TV series!

Being a serious foodie and lover of foreign travel, I also enjoy shows such as Rick Stein's Secret France, and any other programmes like them, where you get to see some really lovely places, off the beaten track on foreign soil [that you can earmark for future holidays], as well as getting to know the *real* food from the area that locals eat.

The thing for me is that, primarily, I watch TV to be entertained and/or amused, not educated, and so some of the rather serious stuff that 'academics' seem to like would bore me to tears! I can 'do' the odd documentary, but only so often, and it has to be on a topic of particular interest, otherwise I'll be :zzz:

Marco.

walpurgis
25-11-2019, 20:05
Well I'm watching 'Junk and Disorderly' on ITV4 right now. Programmes like this make having a TV worthwhile. :)

Marco
25-11-2019, 20:16
Love that programme:thumbsup:

Marco.

Barry
25-11-2019, 21:07
What's it about? Bargain hunters looking for stuff in barns?

walpurgis
25-11-2019, 21:17
What's it about? Bargain hunters looking for stuff in barns?

Brief description here.

https://superbike-news.co.uk/henry-coles-junk-disorderly/

Tim
25-11-2019, 23:41
I phoned them and enquired about not needing one etc. they asked me a few questions and said i didnt need one and would sort it their end. Ive not heard from them since

Their time frame for 're-checking' is two years Grant, so if they're complying with the guidelines in your area, you should get a reminder 2 years from your last 'licence not needed' declaration.

Gazjam
26-11-2019, 22:05
They can't be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear!
And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you give the BBC your money...

struth
26-11-2019, 22:13
They can't be reasoned with. They donít feel pity, or remorse, or fear!
And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you give the BBC your money...Lol.

Wont be getting any from me via a licence. In fact they shouldn't get a licence at all. It's been outdated for years, and only get it by dealing with successive govts and such.

Pharos
26-11-2019, 22:49
The main entertainment for me when watching TV is in analysing what they must think I find entertaining, such is the patronising banality of much of it. A bit like listening to a transparently con salesman.

So I'm building a database on their idea - of what my thinking and ideas are.
In essence this is a bit like looking at the bollocks that the politicians are trying to fob us off with currently; yes an interesting matrix of a belief system, but it bears little relation to the underlying reality of events.

If I want to watch the walking dead, I go and shop in Morrisons.

Barry
26-11-2019, 23:01
Just listen to the radio instead. There are plenty of plays, news and analysis, comedies, quiz programmes, documentaries - as well as music.



If I want to watch the walking dead, I go and shop in Morrisons.

So where do you shop - Fortnum and Mason?