PDA

View Full Version : Guitar based music



John
26-04-2009, 16:07
I love guitar based music; learning to play the guitar only increased my love of the instrument and helped open my ears to other music styles. Here I hope to share my passion for guitar based music. Some of the reasons why the guitar grew in popularity are:
a) It was cheap so people could afford it
b) It is portable so easy to carry around
In its early days it was mainly used for rhythm and would mainly be used as a backing Instrument.
One of the first players to open up the harmonic possibilities of the guitar was Django Reinhardt. Django is still one of my favourite players of all time. Lot of his unique style was due to the fact he could only use two fingers on his fretting hand to create music. His music has a strong sense of rhythm this helps drive his music and then has his amazing playing coming through tracks like Nuages, Minor Swing, Daphne and Dark Eyes capture his playing style well at times his playing can give me goose bumps. It’s amazing still how many modern players still admire his music and spirit.
A couple of modern players who I love that are heavily influenced by Django include Birelli Lagrene and Martin Taylor. Birelli made his first album at the age of 12 he grew up in a traditional gypsy lifestyle and grew up in hearing the music of Django. My two favourite albums by Birelli are Birelli Lagrene and Vic Juris Live for me one of the greatest live guitar acoustic based albums ever recorded it captures the sheer joy of 2 great musicians playing at there best lots of fun improvisation great melodies and fantastic playing. I also love inferno this has a lot more of an Electric feel and yet again some great improvisation and melodies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HSOy6JoSe4

Martin Taylor is a British guitarist perhaps a good place to start is Don’t Fret he has sometimes recorded albums that are mainly tunes written or inspired by Django Gypsy is the best one to try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZlxwXjomZg

Another jazz guitar pioneer is Charlie Christian he mostly played as a back up musician to Benny Goodman a great piece to hear what he is all about is Solo Flight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-U1-AB_vnM
The 50s saw the birth of Rock and Roll. When people watched Elvis played Jailhouse Rock the guitar suddenly became the instrument people wanted to learn. The 50s also was the start of electric blues people like Freddie King, Muddy Walters, BB King, and T Bone Walker had an incredible influence on music and a few years latter would inspire a whole bunch of players like Eric Clapton Jimmy Page Jeff Beck and Peter Green
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2T42SehZWA T Bone Walker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q85FSZXe_KE BB King
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez5izCf2DLI Muddy Waters
Also the 50s saw people like Scotty Moore, Chat Atkins Joe Pass Tal Farlow. The first two players have there roots in country music the last two Jazz. When I was younger I tried to get into these players but for me I could appreciate there legacy but could not really enjoy them.
Looking at the 60s suddenly the guitar is starting to become the main instrument of popular music; bands like the Beatles and Rolling Stones really helped to cement its place. In the 60s Britain threw up a whole bunch of players Clapton Page Green and Beck. For me the player I love the most from that period and whose music kept on developing is Jeff Beck. Jeff has amazing phrasing and a great tone he has spear headed many movements and is often cited by many guitarist as a player they most admire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8c0uzSbcrg Jeff Beck playing with Rod Stewart this predates Led Zeppelin and you can clearly see a direct influence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1jeisylBs Jeff playing a Nitin Sawhney song. For me this sends shivers down my spine his phrasing his tone the track itself just Awesome.
But the guitarist that turned everything on its head was Hendrix. Jimmy was drenched in the tradition of Blues and Soul. Playing in a number of bands as he learned his trade It’s easy to hear influences of people like Buddy Guy I love the first two albums the most and enjoy Electric Ladyland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE80W5xYbTI Jimmy playing on the Lulu show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uvICcOLRk&feature=related Jimmy at Woodstock
Other players to come from America from this period include Roy Buchanan Paul Butterfield and Carlos Santana I love Carlos first album it captures spontaneity and groove Tracks like Soul Sacrifice Treat and Jingo for me is Carlos at his best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnamP4-M9ko This band is so in the groove and Michael Shrieve drumming is just so awesome. The band is still young and hungry and this comes through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xghprblOiYI A more Jazzy feel with some nice keyboard work from Greg then moves into more traditional
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MNNox5HeN4&feature=related One of the all time Jazz guitarists Wes Montgomery started to record albums in the 60s famous for octave playing A great sense of rhythm and melody
The 70s so the birth of Stadium rock yet again it was the guitarist that took centre stage People Like Peter Frampton Jimmy Page Steve Howe. and King Crimson (Robert Fripp). Led Zeppelin was a giant of this time. For me as young boy seeing Jimmy with his double Gibson guitar was just so cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB8IZwdZG1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yFQ6vcRNk Zeppelin in there pomp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jhk5MEugJY Yes at there best
The 70s also brought Jazz Fusion Punk Heavy Rock/Metal and progressive rock the guitar played central part in all these diverse formats
Fusion saw bands like the Mahavishnu Orchestra Return to Forever and Tony Williams Lifetime. This produced 3 of the most influential guitarist within this format John McLaughlin Al DiMeola and Alan Holdsworth, my own favourite is Al because of his great riffs and fiery playing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujcYw2QTPzM Mahvavishnu Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySWS6i9kL4s Holdsworth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClbE6YEO6e0&feature=related Just great riffs I remember playing this using Vic Verus on my system and was the closest I ever got to the real thing; I could hear ever note jump out of the speakers.
The fusion genre also brought us players like Lee Ritenour, Pat Metheny, George Benson and Larry Carlton the music for awhile moved to smooth jazz and bands like Morrissey Mullen with the great Jim Mullen on guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwGHaKbnoL8 Larry most famous tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN7YHbQjwjo For me Pat is a player I sometimes love and sometimes find hard to listen too, but he is n amazing guitar player and has continued to develop over the years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5xNENSZwS4 The tune that got me into Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKl1jD0Bm0&feature=related Its clear to see Jim Mullen is heavily influenced by Wes the same goes for George Benson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QjTK0pL1go George Benson
Heavy Metal/Rock has often been about heavy riffs and guitar solos and the 70s saw some players like Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath Ted Nugent Michael Schenker (UFO) Ronnie Montrose and Eddie Van Halen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqy4DTHGqg The powerful driving rhythms heavy riffs of Black Sabbath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qP_OqOJ8ug The mad axeman!! I seen this band so many times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3J-XYnZHfU He is so Spinal Tap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc Montrose Led Zep is the min influence Ronnie doing a good Jimmy Page impression and Sammy Hagar is copying Robert Plant but great stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWtRzM6lork When I first heard this I could not believe what I was hearing I never heard anyone tap before and never heard harmonics like that the music came screaming at you
Other guitar players to come from this period include Mark Knopler Andy Summers Alex Leifson and Gary Moore
Punk also had a huge influence it brought guitar back to its basics and also brought back a energy and passion to music
The 80s so the rise of Shred guitar players like Yngwie J Malmsteen Steve Vai Joe Satriani and Tony Mac Alpine But it also saw bands like the Smiths (Johnny Marr) and Alan Murphy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj3ec2cCaJwOneof my funniest memories was going to see Yngwie at the Marquee seems like someone spread a rumour that it was Bruce Springsteen play under a different name so a lot of Bruce fans going to see a Swedish neo classical guitar player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b0XwyeWNl0 Steve first made his mark as a Frank Zappa sideman but here is a track from his first solo album
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM This is Satch playing Always with you always with me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcANDk_Q4Ho&feature=PlayList&p=5F724135B4AA3E70&index=0&playnext=1 The Smiths
Modern Players
The 90s saw renewed interests in fusion players people like Scott Henderson, Frank Gamble, Shawn Lane, Carl Vernheyen, Bill Frisell, Eric Johnson, John Petrucci and Nguyen Le
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svzv-YkUzdk Bill is capable of playing a wide variety of styles and is a great innovator on the guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o9psdo86x0&feature=PlayList&p=1280A5E84FE94919&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13 Nguyen is a player that is at times combines beauty with complexity in his music and ranges from World influences to Rock to Jazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jit_KXxhX4 I saw Shawn play with this band at the Pizza Ezpress a few years before he died I had no doubt I was watching a master at work the next track represents Shawn more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPTeFta4lw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnqpOFcBiMM Eric has actually been around since the late 70s making albums but did not really find fame till the 90s a very versatile guitar player I prefer his first few albums and I am not the greatest lover of him singing but some of my friends like his singing voice
Players in other Styles
I realise there re a whole bunch of players in different styles that I have not even touched upon so here will be a very quick overview
Classical
I guess without Andres Segovia the whole Classical guitar movement might of not got started and without doubt is the single most important person in classical guitar the same way Pagganni is important to the Violin Other players worth listening to are Julian Bream John Williams Nicola Hall Sharon Isbin Elloit Fisk and David Tanenbaum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WqVfKLNm4Y&feature=related David Tanenbaum playing a very modern classical piece at times challenging yet has moments of beauty too
Various world music and Folk
Paco DeLucia is great Flamenco player and has dabbled in other forms of music too. His recording with John McLaughlin and Al DiMeola is one of my all time favourite albums ever. Other artists worth checking out are Strunz and Farah Oscar Lopez and Tomatito
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUZDRPd9g_w&feature=related A great guitar duo this really represents what they are about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ypeZ6R-t0&feature=related Just wonderful music still touches something inside and can make the hair stand on the back of my neck
India has produced great musicians VM Bhatt plays a version of the guitar and Prasanna combines Indian music with swing and sometimes rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e-sx_2pquA This is totally unique I never Just awesome guitar playing he really swings yet he he is doing some crazy bends and slides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e-sx_2pquA
Country
My knowledge of Country players is very limited some of note include The Hellecaster (WillRay Jerry Donahue and John Jorgenson) were one of the tightest bands I ever seen. Another great guitar player is Danny Gatton Other players to check out include James Burton Albert Lee Chat Atkins Steve Trovato and Ricky Skaggs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjR-CdRf3jA&feature=related The Hellecasters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lILSP-enbJw&feature=related Danny could play in any style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYK13NPAvks&feature=related if you look closely at Danny playing he is using pick and fingers Just amazing playing
One of my favourite players is Michael Hedges is simply a joy to hear other Acoustic players in similar style include Billy McLaughlin Pierre Bensusan Leo Kottke and Phil Keggy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0cd7MLIZno&feature=related Billy Mclaughlin
I love many things about the guitar one of them is how people have adapted to different styles of music I like that on its own it can sound like a band that you can play it at different levels but most of all I love the sound it creates

Now I need a :cool:

break-3
26-04-2009, 16:12
Wow, I might have to approach this post in instalments... :lol:

John
26-04-2009, 16:16
Hahaha

Barry
26-04-2009, 18:15
Wow, I might have to approach this post in instalments... :lol:

I agree! Thanks John, you well deserve that beer.

Barry

Mr. C
26-04-2009, 18:27
Tut, Tut another in-depth that overlooked Mr B, like him or loathe him, The boy can play :-)

John
26-04-2009, 18:43
I am afried the arctile has missed loads of great players there are just to many; perhaps you can share your thoughts around Joe Bonamssa I presume
I also missed out Stevie Ray Vaughan and I am sure a few others too!!!

Mr. C
26-04-2009, 18:53
John,

Actually I was thinking of the man in black actually, though Joe is a talented guy, I have have seen 4 times now, great player and song writer, though an excellent player who is often over looked is Rory Gallagher

John
26-04-2009, 19:10
Ahh I think you mean Ritchie B?
Yes Rory is also missing too and Frank Zappa both great players. Maybe I should of gave it more time before I posted

aquapiranha
26-04-2009, 19:36
Voice of the seven woods . :-)

Mr. C
26-04-2009, 19:37
Hi John,

No you post was fine sir, and I suspect took a long time to prepare too.
Yes indeed Mr. Black-more, a very odd yet brilliant player, also too Eric Johnson, Andy Timmons, the ice man Albert Collins, Big Jim Sullivan, Gordon Giltrap, Randy Rhoads (RIP), George Harrison, Steve Howe, Janick Gers, Traver Rabin.
I am sure the list will grow with even more names thrown in the ring too!
Nice information John

John
26-04-2009, 20:30
Cheers Mr C
I used to love Randy Rhodes and still enjoy Goodbye to Romance and Mr Crowley I must check out Andy Timmons sometime
God knows how I missed Eric a fanastic player I saw him at the Marquee when he first came over the audience was full of musicians that night
Yes I hope the list grows regardless of style

Spectral Morn
26-04-2009, 20:57
Nice post John....well done.


Steve Hillage...

Regards D S D L

Sand Dancin Donkey Walker
26-04-2009, 23:12
John

Great post, will have to get round sometime to doing something similar for my favourite female vocalists, along with the Youtube links where available.

Andy - SDDW

The Grand Wazoo
26-04-2009, 23:13
Great post!!
Guitar based music forms the core of most of what I listen to.
Jeff Beck - apart from his early stuff - the 'Guitar Shop' album is brilliant
A few others (perhaps less well known) worth checking out:

Lonnie Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSa_JluRs4E

Roy Buchanan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlumlj2lo1M&feature=related

Kelly Joe Phelps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFtiGpRlRRM&feature=related
One of my desert island discs would be 'Lead Me On' by this man

Martin Simpson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZRd6OIaT7o&feature=channel
Watch this one to the end. I went to see him perform the other month in his hometown of Scunthorpe (not something too many people boast about!). He was incredible - perhaps one of the best guitarists I've seen.

Frank Marino: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vwfwZ6D_U&feature=related
Went to see him on a whim at Hammersmith Odeon (as was) - walked away in a daze as I'd just heard a man play a guitar & make it sound just like a church organ!



Just a few, but there is so much more.................

John
27-04-2009, 04:15
Great post!!
Guitar based music forms the core of most of what I listen to.
Jeff Beck - apart from his early stuff - the 'Guitar Shop' album is brilliant
A few others (perhaps less well known) worth checking out:

Lonnie Johnson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSa_JluRs4E

Roy Buchanan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlumlj2lo1M&feature=related

Kelly Joe Phelps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFtiGpRlRRM&feature=related
One of my desert island discs would be 'Lead Me On' by this man

Martin Simpson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZRd6OIaT7o&feature=channel
Watch this one to the end. I went to see him perform the other month in his hometown of Scunthorpe (not something too many people boast about!). He was incredible - perhaps one of the best guitarists I've seen.

Frank Marino: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vwfwZ6D_U&feature=related
Went to see him on a whim at Hammersmith Odeon (as was) - walked away in a daze as I'd just heard a man play a guitar & make it sound just like a church organ!



Just a few, but there is so much more.................

I was at the Same Frank Marnio gig Good concert
Martin Simpson is great player and must check out KellyJoe never herd of him so thanks for thatagree aboout Guitar shop great album I think Jeff like a good bottle of wine has gotten better with age

John
27-04-2009, 04:16
John

Great post, will have to get round sometime to doing something similar for my favourite female vocalists, along with the Youtube links where available.

Andy - SDDW

I look forward to that

Sand Dancin Donkey Walker
27-04-2009, 05:21
I look forward to that

Hi John

I have put a basic first thoughts post up already, will have to reveiw it later and see what I can add. Did it while bored at work :eyebrows:. Not much happening at the moment.

Andy - SDDW

John
27-04-2009, 17:26
Hi Andy
I been listening to Kelly Joe Phelps he is a really good song writer; thanks for turning me onto something new! Well at least new to me!!

The Grand Wazoo
27-04-2009, 17:42
Hi Andy
I been listening to Kelly Joe Phelps he is a really good song writer; thanks for turning me onto something new! Well at least new to me!!

You should go & see him when you get a chance. He never plays any song the same way twice.

'Lead Me On' is stripped down & very basic, just him & his guitar, whereas most of his other albums are a bit more polished.

A great performer & player.

Glad to enlighten your life - even if just for a few moments!!!!!


Another player I really like is Robert Lucas - his albums were released by Audioquest & are that rare thing that is an audiophile recording of decent music!
Cheers

The Grand Wazoo
28-04-2009, 16:48
I just thought some of the people who enjoyed, or got something out of this thread might like to try reading:

'Guitar Man' by Will Hodgkinson

Bloomsbury Publishing PLC (20 Mar 2006)

ISBN-10: 0747577455
ISBN-13: 978-0747577454

It's a great read - the story of how the author made a bet with friends that he could become proficient enough on the guitar within 6 months to give a public performance to paying punters. During his 6 months he managed to get tips & real lessons from Roger McGuinn, Les Paul, Bert Jansch, Davey Graham, James Williamson, Johnny Marr, T-Model Ford and others. He actually went to Robert Johnson's crossroads (but with no luck on the Beelzebub front!).

He's frustrated by his mate, who's had no lessons from anyone - ever, but is a natural. "You just kinda feel it, man".

Great book, great story. It's also very funny. He did a follow-up called 'Song Man' along similar lines about songwriting.

John
28-04-2009, 17:16
Sounds like my kind of book Cheers for the tip
If people want me to do a list of notable albums around this thread let me know

Sand Dancin Donkey Walker
28-04-2009, 18:21
Hi John

The notable albums is a good idea, go with it and see what you end up with. Could be good source of new listening stuff for us, well me anyway :)

Andy - SDDW

John
28-04-2009, 19:39
Hi Andy
I do this at the weekend

John
02-05-2009, 21:50
Here a list of guitar based music I like in no order of preference
Al Di Meola John McLaughlin and Paco DeLucia- Friday Night In San Francisco Live. This a great acoustic guitar based What comes cross is the joy each musician has when playing with each other and the way the Audience responds to each moment. The playing is superb. If you can get it on vinyl the recording quality is excellent
Birelli Lagrene and Vic Juris- Live Two great players The sense of improvisation fun and telepathic understanding is outstanding yet again get it on vinyl if you can find it but it is a lot easier to get on CD
Strunz and Farah- Live These two players have recorded a lot of albums the play Flemenco music but mix it up with a lot of Jazz influences yet again the playing is of the highest order and has a sense of passion
Stefanovski and Tadic - Krushevo Music from the Balkans So the music has exotic eastern European music that is beautiful to hear Yet again the musicianship is of the highest order and if you like Friday Night in San Fran..... then you should enjoy this too
Buckethead -Colma: Buckethead is usually known for a more his Shred approach which is often quite outside in its nature. On this album he shows another side it could almost be New Age in nature the music is often reflective and at time haunting
Peter Wolpl- Mr Fudge Speaks Peter is a underrated player with great phrasing. When listening to music I usually can hear where they are going Peter someone brings new possibilities but yet makes everything fits. Usually when a player does this it can be hard to listen too, with this album it is never like that
Kazumi Watanbe- Spice of Life too Another fusion album melodic but great playing
Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane- Temporal Analogues of Paradise: For me one of my favourite fusion albums of all times. A telepathic understanding of each other each musician is totally in tune with each other
Alan Holdsworth Secrets I usually prefer when he is playing with a band than his solo stuff a good example of this would be K2 Summit but this is one of his accessible albums still not easy listening but captures why he is highly regarded
Al Di Meola is one of my favourite fusion players but for me hard to find one album that really does it all the way through for me, perhaps Live Tour De Force or Casino but most of his albums are worth getting
Jeff Beck For me he is a master of phrasing and has got better as he got older perhaps a good place to start is Guitar Shop but also check out the live DVD at Ronnie Scotts to get a understanding of way he is so rated
I love the first two Hendrix albums as they are more direct
UFO- Strangers In The Night
Michael Hedges- Aerial Boundaries: Its a shame this album gets put in as new age as for better or worse I usually associate that form of music as lacking passion and creativity this album lacks none of that yet has great melodies
Stevie Ray Vaughan- The Sky is Crying Proves Stevie is more than a Blues player shows some nice Wes influnces
Buddy Guy- Live at the Checkerboard Just very raw Buddy
Helecasters The Return of the Hellecasters Just great playing mixescountry with swing with rock with......... Generally I cannot handle country music but this is just a great listen
Birelli Lagrene- Inferno This is a more electric affair but has great melodies
If u want more added I will but a good selection to start off with

Sand Dancin Donkey Walker
03-05-2009, 10:15
John

Some nice stuff there, will also have to research some of the new stuff to me.

This is just when I am looking for, keep this up guys.

Andy - SDDW

John
03-05-2009, 13:02
Andy let me know how you get on with this what you like and i recommend more

Sand Dancin Donkey Walker
03-05-2009, 13:44
Hi John

I have a few saved in my ‘Wish List’ on Amazon, I’ll note them below if there are any better alternatives just let me know.

There are a couple on your last list, which are new to me;

· Strunz and Farah - Live
· Stefanovski and Tadic - Krushevo
· Peter Wolpl - Mr Fudge Speaks
· Kazumi Watanbe – Spice of Life too, Watanbe must the Japanese equivalent to Smith??
· Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane - Temporal Analogues of Paradise

My Amazon Saves;

· Terry Riley - Rainbow In Curved Air
· Penguin Cafe Orchestra
· Kelly Joe Phelps – Tunesmith Retrofit
· Jackie Leven – Creatures Of Light and Darkness
· Laura Nyro
· Mitch Ryder
· Susumu Yokota – Grinning Cat

Hadn’t realised there were so many there. I will definitely have to get round to making a start to buying some of them. Should be very interesting in deed. Any alternative suggestions are more than welcome.

Andy - SDDW

The Grand Wazoo
03-05-2009, 13:44
What about Sonny Landreth?

One of the best slide guitarists...........

Watch how he frets note & chords behing the slide..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oNFRWXDSA8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnofC7KsX2o&feature=related

Levee Town is my favourite of his albms

symon
03-05-2009, 14:22
Penguin Cafe Orchestra are amazing. I can't immediately find what I have of theirs. But, anything will be a delight.

Kelly Joe Phelps - look also for Sky Like a Broken Clock, Shine Eyed Mr Zen. Be carerful with his new album, though.

For 'folk' guitar playing you must try Bert Jansch - His first album, or Rosemary Lane - and Martin Carthy - try Waiting for Angels, or some of his early stuff, especially Both Ears and the Tail with Dave Swarbrick. And then there's John Renbourn - try Bert and John. And don't forget Pentangle.

I also highly recommend Steve Earle - Washington Square Serenade

The Grand Wazoo
03-05-2009, 14:42
Kelly Joe Phelps - look also for Sky Like a Broken Clock, Shine Eyed Mr Zen. Be carerful with his new album, though.

For 'folk' guitar playing you must try Bert Jansch - His first album, or Rosemary Lane - and Martin Carthy - try Waiting for Angels, or some of his early stuff, especially Both Ears and the Tail with Dave Swarbrick. And then there's John Renbourn - try Bert and John. And don't forget Pentangle.



.........KJPhelps - for me 'Lead Me On is the one.

.........Davey Graham is the guy who Bert & John wanted to be (as did Paul Simon, Jimmy Page, Martin Carthy, John Martin and a whole host of others)

symon
03-05-2009, 14:45
.........KJPhelps - for me 'Lead Me On is the one.

.........Davey Graham is the guy who Bert & John wanted to be (as did Paul Simon, Jimmy Page, Martin Carthy, John Martin and a whole host of others)

It's interesting that you've gone that far back in his work. I'm happily surprised :gig:

Oh yes - Davey Graham was Bert Jansch's hero big time! I had a chat with Martin Carthy about Davey Graham once - he said it was the heroin that did him in, he never quite came back from it.

Paul Simon owes a lot to Martin carthy, and Jimmy Page owes a lot to Davey Graham and Bert Jansch!

John
04-05-2009, 07:33
Hi John

I have a few saved in my ‘Wish List’ on Amazon, I’ll note them below if there are any better alternatives just let me know.

There are a couple on your last list, which are new to me;

· Strunz and Farah - Live
· Stefanovski and Tadic - Krushevo
· Peter Wolpl - Mr Fudge Speaks
· Kazumi Watanbe – Spice of Life too, Watanbe must the Japanese equivalent to Smith??
· Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane - Temporal Analogues of Paradise

My Amazon Saves;

· Terry Riley - Rainbow In Curved Air
· Penguin Cafe Orchestra
· Kelly Joe Phelps – Tunesmith Retrofit
· Jackie Leven – Creatures Of Light and Darkness
· Laura Nyro
· Mitch Ryder
· Susumu Yokota – Grinning Cat

Hadn’t realised there were so many there. I will definitely have to get round to making a start to buying some of them. Should be very interesting in deed. Any alternative suggestions are more than welcome.

Andy - SDDW

I am not sure how you get on with the Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane album I put in a link so u get a sense as it might be to much improvisation for you but everything fits into the music If u give it time u might like it but generally one that takes time to really appreciate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ_MfyrQT8I

The Grand Wazoo
01-06-2009, 21:12
I've just been listening to Ricardo Sweatt Rodriguez - 'Grande Reservoir: Solo Acoustic Fusion Guitar'.

Steel strung acoustic guitar noodlings - he's new to me. It caught my interest because of a track called 'Zappa'. Good music for just having a pleasant noise in the background - I can't see myself listening very hard to it, but it's entertaining enough.

I swear it's not all truly acoustic, though!

John
02-06-2009, 04:30
I will check out his stuff not heard of him either
Cheers Chris

John
02-06-2009, 13:27
I've just been listening to Ricardo Sweatt Rodriguez - 'Grande Reservoir: Solo Acoustic Fusion Guitar'.

Steel strung acoustic guitar noodlings - he's new to me. It caught my interest because of a track called 'Zappa'. Good music for just having a pleasant noise in the background - I can't see myself listening very hard to it, but it's entertaining enough.

I swear it's not all truly acoustic, though!

It reminds me of Jasun Carter
He is going through a processor (not sure what) still acoustic but heavily modified

The Grand Wazoo
02-06-2009, 16:42
It reminds me of Jasun Carter
He is going through a processor (not sure what) still acoustic but heavily modified

Yes, it's an acoustic guitar alright, but we're not hearing it's acoustics, despite what the album title would imply.

Did you like it?

John
02-06-2009, 17:43
Its a bit to nice for me but he can play

The Grand Wazoo
04-06-2009, 00:20
I'd tend to agree with that synopsis.

I've just been listening to 'Width of a Circle' from the Ziggy Stardust soundtrack at the moment - an album I know very well. But tonight on this track, it struck me that the guitar frenzy in the middle was so much ahead of it's time, it's not true!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibbXYEBryrs&feature=related

I often wondered before, just how much of what we heard on the Bowie albums of that era came from Mick Ronson, because after they parted company, Bowie was just not the same. The second clue is on Ronson's solo albums!

Another underrated and sadly lost talent.

John
04-06-2009, 18:34
nice link very rock and roll
Its intresting although this is a lot more basic I can connect with it more than Ricardo Sweatt Rodriguez yet I tend to go for people that combine good technique with a certain energy or passion so I guess I value that emotional connection more than I value Technique (ideally I want both)

The Grand Wazoo
06-05-2012, 23:56
From The Grave

RichB
07-05-2012, 10:02
Great post, theres a full evenings worth of youtube recommendations there...

My own recommendation: Mr David Gilmour, pioneer in his own way... a man not afraid to experiment with effects together to get a fab and unique sound. Just watch any of the Live in Pompeii stuff to see him pushing the boundaries of what could be done with the technology of the time.

bCfQkVqtHzo 646KtkEcPm8

JohnJo
08-11-2014, 21:34
Oh yes - Davey Graham was Bert Jansch's hero big time! I had a chat with Martin Carthy about Davey Graham once - he said it was the heroin that did him in, he never quite came back from it.

Someone correct me if they know otherwise but I'm sure I saw him live in the late 90s at the Ards guitar festival. He took a lot of encouragement to get up on stage but unfortunately the magic seemed to have gone but you could literally taste the respect for him in the room. TBH he could have blown on his thumb and been given a standing ovation such was his reputation amongst that knowledgeable crowd.

Curtius
09-12-2014, 10:33
What a comprehensive thread about guitarists. Yet no one has mentioned Jimi Hendrix, I am astonished, is there a secret art cult going on not to like Jimi Hendrix? After all he did influence majority of famous Rock guitarist in the 70's to say the least...

Stratmangler
09-12-2014, 10:49
What a comprehensive thread about guitarists. Yet no one has mentioned Jimi Hendrix, I am astonished, is there a secret art cult going on not to like Jimi Hendrix? After all he did influence majority of famous Rock guitarist in the 70's to say the least...

Hendrix was mentioned in the very first post! ;)
And yes, he was a very influential player.

Spectral Morn
09-12-2014, 11:01
Didn't see Pat Metheny

Its For You

805e8PJe8D4

September 15th

WbklUUuhHgs


Regards Neil

Joe
09-12-2014, 11:22
Didn't see Peter Green either:

YoasUjXBkm8

Curtius
12-12-2014, 16:44
OOps sorry. Thank you Chris for the correction. :doh::doh: