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DaveK
24-04-2009, 20:03
Hi all,
Sorry for my confusion - this post is aimed at the member who said that he thought Equinoxe and Oxygene" were "a little twee". I have partaken in several different threads lately and now cannot find the message in question but I am sure that the 'guilty party' will recognise themselves if they read this. IMHO nothing JMJ has done since Equinoxe and Oxygene approaches the quality that these LPs achieved, with the possible exception of a couple of tracks on Rendezvous and Cousteau.
Just to provoke some reaction from others I make the following proclamations: -
1) the best piece of music ever written is Tchaikovsky's No. 6 (Pathetique) - I am still trying to find the best recording ever made of it !!
2) another wonderful piece of Tchaikovsky, but of a totally different genre, is Capriccio Italien.
3) I am a 'sucker' for an Instrumental version of Londonderry Air.
4) the best investment that I have made in music for a long time was the recent purchase of the DVD entitled 'Black and Whit Night with Roy Orbison and Friends' - the entire ensemble were each at (or very near) the top of their particular 'pile' and the whole equalled much more than the sum of the parts (IMHO) - I would just love to acquire an analogue version of the music (I could manage without the black and white video), but I doubt such a thing exists.
Now, fire away !!! I look forward to the fusilade !! - but take a 'chill pill' first perhaps, it helps to focus the mind !!
Dave.

DSJR
24-04-2009, 20:16
From one Dave to another, who cut his "electronic" teeth on Delia Derbishire (Dr Who theme), Barry Gray (all those Gerry Anderson soundtracks including the end titles for UFO), Walter/Wendy Carlos, Tonto's Expanding Headband, Echoes by Pink Floyd and was then knocked flat, never to recover, once having heard Phaedra and, later on release, Rubycon by Tangerine Dream, I think I can say that Oxygene especially, is a little "twee."

I'm not saying I dislike JMJ's two albums from this period, 'cos I do - very much, but one reason why these two albums work so well is that apparently that JMJ had the vision, but not the keyboard wizardry to see them through alone and had significant help from another credited artist to get the finished product "complete."

Today, my EM tastes lean towards Klaus Schulze, Redshift, a darker and far more powerful kind of "EM" and a German guy called Ulrich Schnauss, who's first two albums on CD are so comforting and emotive to me and often bring tears to my eyes.

I dare not comment on orchestral music, except to state the line "Wouldn't you just DIE without Mahler?" :)

DaveK
24-04-2009, 20:36
Hi Dave,
So you are the 'guilty party' eh!:):) Hope I didn't rattle your cage to loudly :):)
You obviously know much more about JMJ than I ever will - I am fascinated by your comments on his vision but lack of keyboard skills and the help he needed - I hope the 'facilitator' got the recognition that he deserves, but I suspect not.
I am ashamed to say that NOT ONE of the other EM specialists have I ever heard of - I feel as if someone has thrown open a new door for me. Can I ask which one of your listed EM guys you would suggest that I try listening to first, i.e. not too far removed from Jarre junior's early stuff, to start with.

I dare not comment on orchestral music, except to state the line "Wouldn't you just DIE without Mahler?" :) I am very happy to advise that, having lived for nearly 69 years without Mahler, I hope to manage another 69 without him - far too 'heavy' for me !!
Cheers,:cool:
Dave.

DSJR
24-04-2009, 21:05
Mahler's not as heavy as Wagner - now he's someone I'll NEVER understand..

Re "EM," I like the sequencer based stuff (the rhythmic tones during side two of Equinox for example), coupled with "outer spacey" soundscapes and, I suppose, a wonderful starter to alternative universes could be Rubycon by Tangerine Dream. Don't expect the comfort of JMJ, but kick back and try to let the sound wash over and into you.

I happily admit that JMJ is an excellent composer and the "help" he apparently had is acknowledged on the credits, to be fair. There was much discussion about this on one of the "EM" forums...

Perhaps you could try the more up-to-date Ulrich Schnauss CD "Far Away Trains Passing By." Quite simple, yet it touches my soul. The second track "Between us And Them" I find truly touching in its simplicity.

For real spacey desolation in one part and sequencer beauty in the other, try "Mirage" by Klaus Schulze.

Look on Amazon UK for some great prices.

The Tonto disc is brilliant and more hippy "spaced out man" and jazzy in feel. Remastered by one of the pair that composed and made it a couple of years ago, the musicianship is beyond critcism and the "voice" on Riversong didn't come from a vocoder apparently...

Good luck, and try the Adagietto from Mahler 5 as well (the Karajan or Tenstedt 1970's versions are really good). It's not heavy, well known and when played properly, time stands still for me.....

DaveK
24-04-2009, 21:15
Thanks Dave for all the info/advice/guidance - as soon as I press the 'Post' button on this I'll have a peek at Amazon. I must say that all your enthusiasm (passion) for your music reaaly shine:steam:s through - I hope it has the same effect on me !
Dave.

DaveK
24-04-2009, 21:45
Hi again Dave,:)
Just ordered all 3 EM CDs you recommended, from Amazon - will let you know how I 'get on' with them.
Dave.

Spectral Morn
24-04-2009, 22:08
Hi Dave


You might like Ghostland ....they are a mix of classical elements and electonica
Interview with the Angel is excellent as is Guide me God. They are a trio with guests. John Reynolds, Caroline Dale, Justin Adams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji16D9_Kb1I Interview with the Angel

Also the Little Death Orchestra are an acoustic piano lead electronic group too. This is slightly more minimal but does not stray into the avant garde.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foG7Bxm5uu8 Tiny Crescent Sun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGLM7a9-TNA&feature=related The beckoning Bell

Tim Blake's album New Jerusalem is very good too (the viynls worth a lot of dosh) I think its on CD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT75OmEQmbk Crystal machine live from Tim's house sound not great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va75CIkukwo&feature=related better sound video of above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E00e_i0MMlM&feature=related Tim Blake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5PRfpzhrBw&feature=related Tide of the Century (this is beautiful IMHO)

Andreas Vollenweider's album Behind the Gardens-Behind the wall-under the tree. Boy thats a mouth full is an excellent instrumental album featuring an electronic harp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtnDUSJfbzU From named album

Penguin Cafe Orchestra are worth checking out too...mostly instrumental. Everyone has heard their track Music for a found harmonium...its used in loads of tv adds etc....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJg1NNyke2E

Dusted's album Safe from Harm might be worth a look too beautiful music IMHO but the album is closer to ambient dance music than the previous items above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikkcIgr2Jc Always remember to respect and honour your mother pt1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01gkNaQyw_s&feature=related As above but The Deep Dish remix...this is amazing we will have you buying dance and electonica music yet Dave similar in vibe to JMJ

I will see if I can find links on You tube to these back in a mo.





Regards D S D L

REM
25-04-2009, 19:46
There's enough there to keep you busy for a while but after that check out some Kruder & Dorfmeister (The K&D Sessions) and then some Tosca (Suzuki) after that there's Peace Orchestra and then...well lets just say a couple of months hanging out round here and you'll be well spaced out and completely funked up:smoking::smoking:
BTW Dave I tried replying to your PM but had couple of wierd web moments so hope you got the message.
Cheers Ralph

DaveK
25-04-2009, 20:08
and then...well lets just say a couple of months hanging out round here and you'll be well spaced out and completely funked up:smoking::smoking:
Cheers Ralph
Hi again Ralph,
I look forward to that !!! - don't smoke (anything !!) - and can't drink (acts as a trigger to Cluster Headaches), so the thought of ANYTHING leaving me "completely funked up" appeals greatly !!!
Dave.

DaveK
25-04-2009, 20:13
Hi Neil (DSDL),:)
Thanks for the pointers - when I have a quiet half hour I'll listen/watch to the links and lett you know my impression.
Cheers,:cool:
Dave.

Spectral Morn
25-04-2009, 20:53
Hi Neil (DSDL),:)
Thanks for the pointers - when I have a quiet half hour I'll listen/watch to the links and lett you know my impression.
Cheers,:cool:
Dave.


No problem Dave.


Regards D S D L

Barry
25-04-2009, 23:14
Hello Dave and Dave (you'll know which one I am addressing as appropriate),

First to respond to some of your 'provocations' (not that they are):

The recording of Tchaikovsky's 6th I have, and can recommend, is the Decca double CD of his Symphonies 4, 5, and 6 by the Philharmonia Orchestra, cond. Vladimir Ashkenazy: Decca 443 844-2. As to whether it is the definitive recording or not, I wouldn't like to comment, except to say that it raises the hair on the back of my neck and leaves me emotionally drained. But then, all my recordings of this piece do that, as well as every time I hear it live.

My recording of the 'Capriccio Italien' is on vinyl, performed by the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra, cond. Erich Kunzel. Telarc DG-10041. I expect there is a CD transcription.

I do like some Mahler, however I only have his 5th by The Chicago Symphony Orchestra, cond. Sir George Solti: Decca 414 321-2. I believe that fans of Mahler rate the recordings made by Klaus Tenstedt highly.

The only sample of Jean Michel Jarre's work I have is 'Oxygene'. 'Oxygene' is a soundscape and enjoyable though it is, I think that the Germans do it better: Tangerine Dream with the sublime 'Phaedra', as well to a lesser extent: 'Zeit' and 'Green Desert'. I have not heard 'Rubycon'.

I am reluctant to classify JMJ as easy listening synthesiser music, but I would place it along with Tonto's Expanding Head Band, Gong ('Camebert Electrique') and Vangelis, though I prefer the latter. Again for 'quirky' electronica, I prefer the Germans: Faust ('IV' and 'The Faust Tapes') and, dare I say it, Kraftwerk.

For more 'serious' work in the EM genre, I would like to suggest Terry Riley; from the zen-like 'In C' through 'Church of Antrax' to 'Rainbow in Curved Air' and 'Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band'. There is also the work of Morton Subotnick: 'Silver Apples of the Moon', though this is probably an acquired taste.

Anything by The Penguin Cafe Orchestra.

And finally, to try and bridge the gap between orchestral and electronic soundscapes, might I recommend the works of Gyorgy Ligeti: 'Atmospheres', Wergo WER 60022.

Barry

PS I'll leave the disussion on Wagner to a separate thread.

foxysounds
26-04-2009, 11:09
The first EM music I got into was Jean Michel Jarre, particularly Rendevous and I saw him live in Docklands which was quite spectacular. However since I got into Tangerine Dream I don't think I've listened to a singe album by JMJ again.

On the whole I would say that JMJ's music tends to be more melodic than Tangerine Dream. However, TD have done some very melodic albums so if you fancy trying TD I would try Underwater Sunlight or Le Park first. In terms of soundscapes my personal favourites are Tangram and the absolutely sublime track Alchemy of the heart from the album Tyger.

Simon.

Barry
26-04-2009, 15:02
On the whole I would say that JMJ's music tends to be more melodic than Tangerine Dream. However, TD have done some very melodic albums so if you fancy trying TD I would try Underwater Sunlight or Le Park first. In terms of soundscapes my personal favourites are Tangram and the absolutely sublime track Alchemy of the heart from the album Tyger.

Simon.

Agreed. I'll have to look out for TD works you list. Thanks for that. Could you provide CD numbers?

Mention has been made of Delia Derbyshire. The only work I have of hers is a collaboration with David Vorhaus and Brian Hodgson, known as The White Noise: 'An Electric Storm' (Island 3D CID 1001). I don't particularly like it, but was given to me and serves as a testament to Delia, who sadly died far too young.

Barry

DSJR
26-04-2009, 17:09
Hello Dave and Dave (you'll know which one I am addressing as appropriate),

The only sample of Jean Michel Jarre's work I have is 'Oxygene'. 'Oxygene' is a soundscape and enjoyable though it is, I think that the Germans do it better: Tangerine Dream with the sublime 'Phaedra', as well to a lesser extent: 'Zeit' and 'Green Desert'. I have not heard 'Rubycon'.

Barry

PS I'll leave the disussion on Wagner to a separate thread.

I like Oxygene, but the second half of Equinox is better to me. The "Mighty" Rubycon is truly sublime, but such was the experimental and improvisational nature of this band at the time, twenty hours of recording went into 37 or so minutes of album. The Tonto guys were both jazz trained I believe (Malcolm Cecil definitely was).

Two other "EM" artists from the first wave are Isao Tomita, who did some very colourful synth versions of well known classical pieces (he introduced me to the sublime beauty of Debusseu). The second is Klaus Schulze, who has recorded what seems like hundreds of albums, many in the "soundscape" mold. A recent release is "Kontinuum" which has influences from a 70's favourite "Mirage."

Synth music has limitless possibilities, from commercial keyboard generated singles of today, to the way-out experimenting of the musicians listed above.

Barry
26-04-2009, 19:46
[QUOTE=DSJR;43223]I like Oxygene, but the second half of Equinox is better to me. The "Mighty" Rubycon is truly sublime, but such was the experimental and improvisational nature of this band at the time, twenty hours of recording went into 37 or so minutes of album. The Tonto guys were both jazz trained I believe (Malcolm Cecil definitely was).

Two other "EM" artists from the first wave are Isao Tomita, who did some very colourful synth versions of well known classical pieces (he introduced me to the sublime beauty of Debusseu). The second is Klaus Schulze, who has recorded what seems like hundreds of albums, many in the "soundscape" mold. A recent release is "Kontinuum" which has influences from a 70's favourite "Mirage."
QUOTE]

I used to have a couple of Tonto's Expanding Head Band and Gong LPs. Gave them away - perhaps I missed something. I also had a Steve Hillage record (forget what what it was called, except it had 'Radio' in the title - 'Motivation Radio?). From what I remember it sounded similar. Got rid of that as well.

Had forgotten about Tomita. Was the Debussy record called something like 'Snowflakes are Falling'? Any introduction to Debussy can't be bad.

Will have to try and have a listen to 'Equinox' along with TB's 'Rubycon'.

Barry

DSJR
27-04-2009, 08:42
Snowflakes Are Dancing... Remember, I was still a teenager when this came out and my exposure to composers from past centuries and decades was limited to the "pop" ones. Tomita's rendition of Clare de Lune was lovely and although "over-dressed," I was able to appreciate the beauty of the piece when I finally heard the original piano version (on 12" 78rpm to start with...).

Steve Hillage is a guitar hero of mine with a very "new age" message. His long-time partner Miquette Giraudy was the wiz with the synth and still is in their current "System 7" projects. "Green" is the best one of his 70's output to start with and the re-masters done by Paschal Byrne, an ex-Decca engineer, are superb, especially of the earlier albums not originally mastered for CD by Steve himself.. edit - The modern digital editors are far better and less sonically and technically intrusive than the tools available twenty years ago.

Not electronic, but Shamal by Gong is a jazzy, rocky and melodic (lots of vibraphone and sax etc.) album that hasn't dated at all, unlike the muffled, druggy "Manor-recorded" Flying Teapot albums.

Lastly, for those who dislike CD, the re-mastering of Tubular Bells is superb and again, very like the Dolby A masters we had for dem (I cannot say identical as I haven't directly compared them) - excellent on Tannoys of the period...

Beechwoods
30-04-2009, 20:15
I would just like to say that I'm in agreement with Dave DSJR on the JMJ assessment... in fact I'd go so far as to say he's not just twee, he's a little pants as well :)

I just don't get why he's so rated!

Ah well. While I'm a big electronica fan I'm not so much into 'electronic' music as a genre. For me there's a subtle difference which I think boils down to toe-tappability. Dave's recommendation of Ulrich Schnauss I have to second, in fact anything on the City Centre Offices / Morr Music label, or Leaf, or Skintone...

Susumu Yokota does the most amazing electronic music using samples and sequencers to create modern music that comes from the same place as the minimalists like Steve Reich, Philip Glass et al.

Check out 'Magic Thread', 'Grinning Cat' or 'The Boy & The Tree'.

For me, he's a genius. It's impossible to illustrate his stuff in just one link, but...

Secret Garden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aij0xQQ2ZkE

And Boards Of Canada. The 'Geogaddi' album and 'Beautiful Place Out In The Country' EP are seriously fine albums. Their latest was rubbish, which was so sad as I had been waiting and waiting for it to come out, and had such high hopes. They are hardly the most prolific band :)

Beautiful Place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPob2EZnC28

DSJR
30-04-2009, 20:38
Many thanks for the links..

The Grand Wazoo
30-04-2009, 21:13
A Little Twee

This thread has been extremely educational to me.

I'll have to go now because I'm going to start writing a paper for the 'Quarterly Journal of Forestry' that, despite reports to the contrary, 'A little twee' is not a sapling or a shrub at all, but in fact it's a French synthesiser noodler.

Charles Darwin?!............The Origin of Species?!.....................PAH!

DSJR
30-04-2009, 21:16
Following on from a couple of PM's, I'd like to venture the idea that CD can reproduce very deep bass better than your average LP, especially when this LP is made for general consumption. Having your speakers on the floor (?) will emphasise low bass more as well.

For Tangerine Dream with less of the improvised "space" feel, try their output from Force Majeure onwards. Their 1985 release, "Underwater Sunlight" is beautiful and has some superb playing on it.

Just to confirm that "Electronica" is a HUGE arena and few of us will ever do more than scratch the surface of what's there.

DaveK
30-04-2009, 21:35
"I would just like to say that I'm in agreement with Dave DSJR on the JMJ assessment... in fact I'd go so far as to say he's not just twee, he's a little pants as well. I just don't get why he's so rated!" SACRILEGE - HOW DARE YOU !!! :lolsign:
I may just leave the country and emigrate to France !!

Spectral Morn
30-04-2009, 21:37
Following on from a couple of PM's, I'd like to venture the idea that CD can reproduce very deep bass better than your average LP, especially when this LP is made for general consumption. Having your speakers on the floor (?) will emphasise low bass more as well.

For Tangerine Dream with less of the improvised "space" feel, try their output from Force Majeure onwards. Their 1985 release, "Underwater Sunlight" is beautiful and has some superb playing on it.

Just to confirm that "Electronica" is a HUGE arena and few of us will ever do more than scratch the surface of what's there.


I agree.....its a massive genre. I wish record shops would do it right. Flip they stick stuff like Susumu Yokota in the Dance section :scratch:. I bought Sakura...but I have struggled with it...if i'd known it was minimalist I would not have bothered. Anybody like Colleen ...a French exponent of minimalism.....I struggle with her music too but there are magical bits lurking on her albums.

Regards D S D L

DSJR
30-04-2009, 21:49
For good early stuff, I played BGM by YMO (Yellow Magic Orchestra) recently and still found it entertaining.

There's Kraftwerk too..... (Music, non stop. Techno-Pop) - the grandaddy's of modern keyboard based dance music.

Another melodic artist is/was Manuel Goetsching aka "Ashra." New Age Of Earth is dreamy, evocative of long hot summer days. The track Deep Distance is absolutely beautiful. the next Album "Blackouts" is great too.

Ex TD member Yohannes Schmoelling has done some interesting work too. Wievend Riet (forgive spelling) is superb on both LP and CD in its original release.

I could go on (he types, thinking of Jan Hammer, Pat Moraz and even dear old Rick Wakemen and The Enid [not really electronica, but very symphonic in approach]) :).

Spectral Morn
30-04-2009, 21:53
For good early stuff, I played BGM by YMO (Yellow Magic Orchestra) recently and still found it entertaining.

There's Kraftwerk too..... (Music, non stop. Techno-Pop) - the grandaddy's of modern keyboard based dance music.

Another melodic artist is/was Manuel Goetsching aka "Ashra." New Age Of Earth is dreamy, evocative of long hot summer days. The track Deep Distance is absolutely beautiful. the next Album "Blackouts" is great too.

Ex TD member Yohannes Schmoelling has done some interesting work too. Wievend Riet (forgive spelling) is superb on both LP and CD in its original release.

I could go on (he types, thinking of Jan Hammer, Pat Moraz and even dear old Rick Wakemen and The Enid [not really electronica, but very symphonic in approach]) :).


I have most of these on vinyl and CD. Love the Enid but more prog rock. Pat Moraz is a good guy (member of Yes for one album and Refugee) Ashra great stuff too.


Keep this going more Electronic music please. Over the last few years this section of my collection has been growing more than others.

Regards D S D L

Barry
30-04-2009, 22:29
.........

Just to confirm that "Electronica" is a HUGE arena and few of us will ever do more than scratch the surface of what's there.

I think part of the problem is: how do you define 'electronica'? Is it music produced purely by electronics, sythesisers (e.g. Delia Derbyshire, Walter/Wendy Carlos, Kraftwerk, JMJ, Morton Subotnik etc.), or does it involve electronics by way of the electronic processing of conventional instruments and sounds, i.e. musique concrete (Tangerine Dream, Terry Riley, Enya etc.) or does it include what I would call 'electro-pop' (Goldfrapp). Or is it all or any of the above?

I must confess to being guilty in adding to this confusion. If by electronica one means 'aural soundscapes', then this does not necessarily involve the use of electronics at all: I have in mind the music of Gyorgy Ligeti, Philip Glass and Michael Nyman. :scratch:

Barry

Spectral Morn
30-04-2009, 22:38
I think part of the problem is: how do you define 'electronica'? Is it music produced purely by electronics, sythesisers (e.g. Delia Derbyshire, Walter/Wendy Carlos, Kraftwerk, JMJ, Morton Subotnik etc.), or does it involve electronics by way of the electronic processing of conventional instruments and sounds, i.e. musique concrete (Tangerine Dream, Terry Riley, Enya etc.) or does it include what I would call 'electro-pop' (Goldfrapp). Or is it all or any of the above?

I must confess to being guilty in adding to this confusion. If by electronica one means 'aural soundscapes', then this does not necessarily involve the use of electronics at all: I have in mind the music of Gyorgy Ligeti, Philip Glass and Michael Nyman. :scratch:

Barry

All interesting points....I tend to put all of the above in my Electronica section but keep Dance separate...but thats hard, as a lot of it slides slightly into Electronica. Love Goldfrapp and similar artists....seen them live once excellent.

Does anyone feel that while genres are useful they are a double edged sword and make enjoying music or ones approach to music a bit harder. New music comes with baggage in the form of the genre someone has placed it in..




Regards D S D L

Beechwoods
01-05-2009, 06:02
SACRILEGE - HOW DARE YOU !!! :lolsign:
I may just leave the country and emigrate to France !!

;) :ner: Sometimes Dave I think it's necessary to call a pant a pant. It livens things up a bit!!


I agree.....its a massive genre. I wish record shops would do it right. Flip they stick stuff like Susumu Yokota in the Dance section :scratch:. I bought Sakura...but I have struggled with it...if i'd known it was minimalist I would not have bothered. Anybody like Colleen ...a French exponent of minimalism.....I struggle with her music too but there are magical bits lurking on her albums.

When I discovered Susumu Yokota it was via my local record shop and their fantastic 'electronica' section... if anything had more than a few BPM or less than a good number of electronic glitches, noodles crackles, etc it ended up in the main section so I knew he was in good company. I have Colleen's first album on Leaf and I liked it. But I knew what I was getting because I was going through a 'completist' phase on Leaf at the time and she fitted the 'house sound'. Great label.

Everyone who said that electronica is a genre too broad to define, or list a handful of artists as representative is right... as for definition, if I hear it I know it, but couldn't describe it.

Akufen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKULa--NZ2U) (minimal technco, glitchy micro-house, whatever you call it) is IMO electronica, and so is Susumu Yokota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GemQVvqxBE) or Ryoji Ikeda (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S_2r0J7bHo). Yet they all sound completely different.

Genre's do more harm than good in my opinion, especially around electronica, classical, and 'world' music, that are all such broad churches...

swampy
13-06-2009, 00:14
Today, my EM tastes lean towards Klaus Schulze, Redshift, a darker and far more powerful kind of "EM" and a German guy called Ulrich Schnauss, who's first two albums on CD are so comforting and emotive to me and often bring tears to my eyes.


Ohh.. another Berlin School fan... Not many of us about.

I have about 200 albums of this format. Redshift are prob one of the better ones along with RMI, Create, Syndromeda etc.. Dark, spacey electronica with amazing sequencing.

I play around with synths and ableton live myself, sequencing mostly to make that Berlin school style of EM. Still learning though. Schulze is the grandfather of electronic music. Wish I had a 1/4 of his talent.

I cut my teeth on JMJ. He did the impossible and made pure synth based music popular. A little bit cheesy for my taste now but still great non the less.

I pretty much only listen to this type of music now and some of the better newage stuff.

DSJR
13-06-2009, 10:18
Schulze is the grandfather and i wish I had 1/4 of his album output :D (over 100 releases I think now)... he went too far down the sampling route for me during the eighties, as did JMJ, but after a severe illness which laid him up for a year or so, seems back to the hypnotic and lengthy pieces I love so much now I'm older.

I'm a huge fan (although I don't have them all) of CAN and have been googling their solo projects. Irmin Smidt released a wonderful LP called "Toy Planet" and looks to be doing some great things still with collaborators (electronic instruments as well as treating acoustic ones). I can't believe he's now in his seventies... His old CAN bandmate Holger Zuckay (spellings again) did some great work too, imaginative and non generic, as was most of CAN's group work...

Kris
05-12-2009, 21:19
I'd like to venture the idea that CD can reproduce very deep bass better than your average LP

Yes, and that's because of the problems with cutting deep bass. It's usually easier for the cutting engineer to eq out any deep bass. Also average LPs are made for average people with average (read crap) turntables and cartridges. Put some really deep bass on the LP and their cartridges would fly across the room . . .

hifinutt
10-01-2010, 15:28
i am totally addicted to electronica
started with mike oldfield 30 years ago !! [ommadawn]

then jarre [recently been went to 2 concerts which were awesome ]

now into
gert emmens , totally amazing stuff

http://www.groove.nl/cd/g/gr-143.html

and david wright who is awesome , more melodic but so many layers i can play over and over again

http://www.admusiconline.com/main/DavidWright-index.php

DSJR
10-01-2010, 15:41
I liked Gert Emmens' stuff but don't like "percussion" all the time, preferring sequencers instead..

One of the best blending of old and new for me is Ulrich Schnauss - lovely stuff..

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and here's me talking about "percussion......"

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And the version I know best..

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And lastly, "Home" is heaven to me... (if you've lost parents, you may know where I'm coming from):respect:..

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