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Darrenw
23-04-2009, 17:37
Need some inspiration for a new arm - I like the alphason HR100 and think it might be the one but before committing to a long term relationship I want to cast my eye on a few alternatives

even better would be recommendations for arm and cart combos

before anyone else goes to the bother please see below the kind of thing that I am not looking for (well not in this hifi forum anyway:bum:)

http://www.fitness.com/articles/uploaded/1172104523_fotolia_2245472.jpg

rgds
darren

The Grand Wazoo
23-04-2009, 17:43
Just remind us of the TT it's going on would please, Darren?

Darrenw
23-04-2009, 19:11
not quite as simple as that chris - it could be one of the following:

Denon DP6000
Garrard 301
Thorens TD124
technics sp10

all the above in various states of disrepair lined up to try and then choose the one I like best (flogging the rest)

rgds
darren

The Grand Wazoo
23-04-2009, 19:21
not quite as simple as that chris - it could be one of the following:

Denon DP6000
Garrard 301
Thorens TD124
technics sp10

rgds
darren

Well, why didn't you say so, me old mucker. In that case, you don't need an arm...............

.................you need one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SoPihLdq4

pure sound
23-04-2009, 20:43
The Alphason would be a fine choice particularly if any trace of vdH cable can be exorcised from it. Same applies to the SME IV and V. FR64 would be another good choice, as would a Breuer.

However, that choice of decks and the scope then for a nice plinth also allows you to consider a 12". the obvious candidates would include the SME 3012, The old or new 12" Ortofons, the 12" Jelco, the Schick or, if you are feeling really flush, the Ikeda 407, SME 312 or V-12 or the Breuer/Brinkmann 12". The FR66s would also be nice although they are hard to find.

The left field choice would be something mad, Japanese and 12" like an SAEC or this gorgeous looking Pioneer PA-70 at Top Class Audio

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/pure_sound/Pioneerarm1.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/pure_sound/Pioneerarmclose.jpg

Cartridge would have to be an SPU or, if you are really going for it, an Io and the appropriate transformer.

scoobs
23-04-2009, 22:02
That is indeed gorgeous, I'm suprised it's still for sale. I remember you talking about this arm last year Guy. It's a bit shiny though init :)

DAVEDWACK
23-04-2009, 23:10
not quite as simple as that chris - it could be one of the following:

Denon DP6000
Garrard 301
Thorens TD124
technics sp10

all the above in various states of disrepair lined up to try and then choose the one I like best (flogging the rest)

rgds
darren

Here you go then....it could help you make your choice!

I think it looks quite nice.....and it sounds...well...quite good really.

Cheers.....Dave

Darrenw
24-04-2009, 19:32
Well I have the alphason home now and it looks a little short to work with the denon (cos it has a skirt) will mount round the back I guess but looks like it will go very close to the skirt in the conventional position

looks nice though - the rest is a bit wobbly - have I a dodgy one or do they all do that?

might send it to J7 for a look anyway and a quote for fairy wire!

Your deck looks nice Dave

rgds
darren

DSJR
24-04-2009, 20:06
The HR100S should be one of the best arms ever made, if not as "blingy" as the beautifully presented japanese arms. It'll certainly lack the 500 - 700Hz resonances that ALL arms with detachable shells seem to exhibit...

The 100S's I had anything to do with never seemed "wobbly" to me, so yours may have been abused. Audio Origami should be experienced enough to carefully reset the bearings, assuming they haven't been damaged (they're ceramic I understand)..

I've just been presented with a rather good looking arm from a defunct Kenwood KD750 (many thanks again Paul). It needs a full re-wire but apart from that looks fully intact. I look forward to getting it done when I can afford it.

Magna Audio
24-04-2009, 20:50
http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/42895/2869651300071997495S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2869651300071997495iuijbC)

Ok not really an arm as it doesn't swing from side to side:)

Darrenw
25-04-2009, 07:09
Dave

its the rest/arm lift that feels a bit wobbly not the arm (actually its not wobbly but more oddly aligned, doesnt look quite right and when you lift the arm it veers a bit) - arm looks in pretty good nick and I like it a lot already - simple elegant looks and easy to work with - sounds good already although I only have a cheap knackered shure cart in as I don't have anything else to hand

need to get a new cart now and see how it all comes together - I will send it off to J7 anyway for a rewire at some point so can ask him to look at the rest then

rgds
darren

Spectral Morn
25-04-2009, 21:21
Dave

its the rest/arm lift that feels a bit wobbly not the arm (actually its not wobbly but more oddly aligned, doesnt look quite right and when you lift the arm it veers a bit) - arm looks in pretty good nick and I like it a lot already - simple elegant looks and easy to work with - sounds good already although I only have a cheap knackered shure cart in as I don't have anything else to hand

need to get a new cart now and see how it all comes together - I will send it off to J7 anyway for a rewire at some point so can ask him to look at the rest then

rgds
darren

Sounds like the glue used to set it has failed. I have an Alphason Zenon that has done the same thing. I reckon a spot of super glue would fix it. It moves from side to side if you touch it, and the lifting action is odd as it sinks under the weight of the arm tube so lift lower is crap. I can use the arm with out it so its not an issue and its on a TT which I don't use......anymore.

Does it look...feel like a glue failure issue. ?


Regards D S D L

Darrenw
25-04-2009, 21:46
sounds exactly like that - will have a closer look in the daylight tomorrow - cueing is certainly a bitch to do as it veers on lowering

thanks
darren

DSJR
26-04-2009, 18:42
Well worth doing IMO. The Alphason will happily track a Decca as clean as a whistle, so it's got to be good :)

Spectral Morn
26-04-2009, 19:46
sounds exactly like that - will have a closer look in the daylight tomorrow - cueing is certainly a bitch to do as it veers on lowering

thanks
darren


Your welcome.


Regards D S D L

DSJR
26-04-2009, 21:44
Thanks to a generous good friend/fiend I met on an audio forum, here's a little beauty in need of re-wiring.. (Hope you don't mind me posting your images Paul...

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/KenwoodArm2.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/DSJR_photos/KenwoodArm1.jpg

It comes from a Kenwood KD750, which had a mediocre review in 'Choice years ago, due to it not sounding like a Linn.. The arm seems to have a reasonable performance compared to the others of its ilk, the only query being the horizontal bearing friction isn't as low as some others (this one also doesn't "swing" many times given the Linn Pendulum Test...). I still look forward to getting it to Audio Origami for a work-out and fitting it to something it deserves (a TD125 currently, but any modified Rega plate will do..). One notable thing with it is the exquisite drill-chuck method of locking the pillar in place...