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Alex_UK
13-04-2013, 21:02
I know most of you are far too intellectual to watch them, but I thought I'd start a thread for the two or three of us that do... ;)

The Voice - 3 weeks in, and my goodness, there have been some really good auditions - well worth watching - stop being such a snob! ;)

Britain's Got Talent kicked off tonight - well, if the Hungarian Shadow Theatre aren't in the final, I'll eat my Rega Brio-R! Truly innovative, emotionally charged and ingeniously brilliant! Then we have an amazing singer - Alice - almost thwarted by stage fright, then blowing everyone away... stupendous!

I know they are staged and contrived, but really, if you ignore these shows - sneering indignantly down your nose because they are only for chavs like me - then you are the ones missing out. :)

Effem
13-04-2013, 21:07
Tut, tut, Alex, you should be tucked in a nice warm listening room like what I am, listening to some choons, not watching the telly :lol:

I wouldn't swap Chilling Matenda that I am listening to right now for any twaddle watching on the box :eyebrows:

Alex_UK
13-04-2013, 21:10
Fair point, well made, Frank!

Stratmangler
13-04-2013, 21:19
Car crash TV?
I generally leave it alone ;)

Alex_UK
13-04-2013, 21:26
Oh no, I love a bit of "Traffic Cops" too! :)

NRG
13-04-2013, 22:07
Tut, tut, Alex, you should be tucked in a nice warm listening room like what I am, listening to some choons, not watching the telly :lol:

I wouldn't swap Chilling Matenda that I am listening to right now for any twaddle watching on the box :eyebrows:

You don't know what you have missed, the 11 year old singer was amazing, take your head out of the sand! :D

walpurgis
13-04-2013, 22:11
My God! Next thing will be AOS members who watch soaps. Makes me shudder.

Macca
14-04-2013, 08:21
- then you are the ones missing out. :)

lol - No, we're really not. But good luck with the thread anyway ;)

sparrow
14-04-2013, 11:56
That lass Alice was superb last night on BGT...nice looking too. Thankfully I rarely watch any tellly but like to catch some intersting programmes occasionally. Saturday night telly has been dire for many moons IMO.

Alex_UK
02-06-2013, 21:49
I know I'm pissing in the wind with this thread, 'cos you're all insufferable snobs (;)) but The Voice continues to be fantastic... A real shame they are all so good, actually - makes it very hard to see some good talent dropped so early. Shaping up for some fantastic live shows. Which none of you will be watching anyway! :lol:

ceejaydee
02-06-2013, 22:00
The good lady loves most of the music talent (arguable in some cases) shows so the voice is a regular watch.
Never surprised to see how the judges often make a mess of selecting their final threes :mental:

American Idol season 12 wasn't too bad when it got to the last five contestants; I did like the winner Candice Glover and hope she does well too :thumbsup:

Tim
03-06-2013, 02:43
I know I'm pissing in the wind with this thread . . . . .
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/tumblr_lb5a57uuyx1qafhe9o1_400_zps9d4b78d0.gif (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/greatgig/media/tumblr_lb5a57uuyx1qafhe9o1_400_zps9d4b78d0.gif.htm l)

Good luck fella :lol:

Alex_UK
03-06-2013, 07:15
:rfl:

synsei
04-06-2013, 21:16
I'm with you Alex although I have not caught BGT as yet. The standard of talent on display in The Voice this year is top notch. Matt Henry performing Skinny Love originally by Birdy nearly brought a tear to my eye, what a performance!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzQJ9H_MoU

Alex_UK
04-06-2013, 22:40
I'm with you Alex although I have not caught BGT as yet. The standard of talent on display in The Voice this year is top notch. Matt Henry performing Skinny Love originally by Birdy nearly brought a tear to my eye, what a performance!!!

Won't disagree with you on the Matt Henry performance Dave, but being anal as I am - the Birdy version was in fact a cover of the Bon Iver original - all credit to them for writing it, of course. :)

morris_minor
05-06-2013, 09:24
In case you hadn't realised, choosing his singers is the "hardest thing" Tom Jones has ever had to do. At least since the last series.

My 8 yr old daughter is the only Voice fan in our house. Were it not for her telling that me it's a singing contest I'd have never known . . :rolleyes:

And as for BG(F)T :mental:

(I'll crawl back under me "grumpy" blanket now . . . )

Joe
05-06-2013, 17:43
These talent shows give me the opportunity to re-acquaint myself with the 'upstairs' system, so I ain't knocking them!

Alex_UK
08-06-2013, 21:29
This proves my point. If you disagree, that's fine - but you're still wrong! ;)

8AimnD68l-w

a superstar in the making IMO.

webby
08-06-2013, 21:41
This proves my point. If you disagree, that's fine - but you're still wrong! ;)

8AimnD68l-w

a superstar in the making IMO.
Vocal gymnastics. How many voices and styles did she fit in there? I liked bits of it but cringed at other bits too cos the voice seemed so effected and put on. I couldn't possibly listen to an album of that. It's just too much.

Tim
08-06-2013, 21:42
Well I can see a yoootoob thingy Alex, but it seems not to be working on my computer :lol:

(I refuse to watch it)

pjdowns
08-06-2013, 22:14
My God! Next thing will be AOS members who watch soaps. Makes me shudder.

I used to be a big Soap fan but have finally given them all up!! - Unless we're counting Casualty which my wife and like to watch of a Saturday evening!

pjdowns
08-06-2013, 22:16
I know I'm pissing in the wind with this thread, 'cos you're all insufferable snobs (;)) but The Voice continues to be fantastic... A real shame they are all so good, actually - makes it very hard to see some good talent dropped so early. Shaping up for some fantastic live shows. Which none of you will be watching anyway! :lol:

I admit I'm a bit of a fan of The Voice, Alex :)

Tim
08-06-2013, 23:44
This proves my point. If you disagree, that's fine - but you're still wrong!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/chimp_zps218e9952.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/greatgig/media/chimp_zps218e9952.jpg.html)

;)

Gordon Steadman
09-06-2013, 06:50
I am in the fortunate position of having no access to British TV:)

As a Mac user with Flash disabled, I also have problems with YouTube. However, I do have a prog called MacTubes that allows me to dip in occasionally just see what the rest of the world has to suffer. I have, on occasion, been known to download some of the contents (usually classical but the occasional 'new to me stuff' like Xavier Rudd)

So I do see clips of The Voice and BGT. My problem with them is not the quality of the entrants voices, some of them are very good indeed.

I reckon all of them stand in front of a mirror, aping what they see in a DVD of what passes for singers these days. Its all angst, emote, grimace, wave the hands about impressively etc whilst performing vocal gymnastics of the painful kind. Its especially obvious with the young ones who are singing about stuff that hopefully, hasn't actually happened to them yet. Its all acting not singing, trying to impress rather than actually singing. The best singers can stand rock still and still move me.

The real problem, especially with BGT is that the judges appear to have no claim to any knowledge/taste/musical ability whatsoever. Tom Jones is actually a very good singer - I don't like much of his music but see him sing the blues with Van Morrison and his voice shines out. I have no opinion on the others as I have never heard them.

Clearly, both programs are not really aimed at most of the members of this forum (one hopes) but are fodder for.....someone else. On that score, they seem entertaining enough I guess.

Stratmangler
09-06-2013, 08:29
This proves my point. If you disagree, that's fine - but you're still wrong! ;)

8AimnD68l-w

a superstar in the making IMO.
Vocal gymnastics. How many voices and styles did she fit in there? I liked bits of it but cringed at other bits too cos the voice seemed so effected and put on. I couldn't possibly listen to an album of that. It's just too much.

I didn't manage 30 seconds myself.
It was awful :spew:

Tim
09-06-2013, 08:50
Its very clearly a Marmite thing, but it really did make me feel queasy and I'm not kidding!
Funny how we have such different reactions :scratch:

Macca
09-06-2013, 09:11
I got to 1.41 before giving it up as a bad job. I like that song - but that was a travesty both in the arrangement and the performance. Just awful. Some may recall when the late Lynne Perry performed it on The Word - not sure if it is on U-Tube - it should be - she was so pissed she could hardly stand up and even sober she couldn't sing to save her life but it was still better than that diabolical massacre.

Alex_UK
09-06-2013, 09:17
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2011/09/30/1317380769920-4696bnaz4509-670-70.jpg

webby
09-06-2013, 09:27
As a Mac user with Flash disabled, I also have problems with YouTube.

Sorry to go off topic, but is this by choice?

Actually, new Macs don't have flash installed, so its not a case of it being disabled. You can install it yourself from the Adobe Web site.

I have a safari plugin on my Mac called ClickToFlash. This stops flash content loading automatically, which reduces page load times. Then you can choose which flash content you'd like to see.

In the settings you can choose to convert flash to HTML5, so you could probably avoid installing flash altogether, but I haven't tested that.

You can get the plugin here (http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/)

Spectral Morn
09-06-2013, 09:31
This proves my point. If you disagree, that's fine - but you're still wrong! ;)

8AimnD68l-w

a superstar in the making IMO.

Agreed she is amazing and I am not just saying that because she is from my neck of the woods. I like quirky female singer songwriters and she fits that bill to a T. Looking forward to hearing more from her and I suspect she might win the competition but the show this year has hit new heights in quality - puts the so called talent on BGT to shame in my view - so that isn't certain but I hope she does.


Regards Neil

DSJR
09-06-2013, 09:32
Alex, you missed Cowell having eggs thrown at him - far more entertaining than many of the BGT finalists :)

Audioman
09-06-2013, 09:53
I think this girl has a great voice but the arrangement and 'over singing' is down to the pressure to impress and the coaching. - in this case Will I Am. It wouldn't have been much point just coming out doing Gloria Gaynor Disco though would it? Took me a about a minute to realise what song she was singing. Personally I think she over did it to put it mildly and would have been better sticking to one vocal style instead of the Maria Carey et all impersonations.

Stratmangler
09-06-2013, 09:55
I think this girl has a great voice but the arrangement and 'over singing' is down to the pressure to impress and the coaching. - in this case Will I Am. It wouldn't have been much point just coming out doing Gloria Gaynor Disco though would it? Took me a about a minute to realise what song she was singing.

She was singing a song?
:rfl:

Macca
09-06-2013, 10:17
http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2011/09/30/1317380769920-4696bnaz4509-670-70.jpg

Yes I think you better had!

Seriously though was she the best of them? God knows how poor the rest of them are if that's the case.

Tim
09-06-2013, 11:13
She was singing a song?
I thought she was in pain?

Anyway, it just illustrates how different we all are. I personally find the whole thing rather abhorrent and have real issues will the entire principle of what they are doing, both to the artists and music industry as a whole, be it X-Factor, BGT and this latest offering - its just plain wrong as far as I'm concerned.

This is where I sit;

HlMqaAI_ebA

Sorry Alex, I still luurves ya' though :kiss:

Rare Bird
09-06-2013, 11:30
I detest talent shows infact i detest TV so what do i do, walk into another room when the TV gets turned on.

Stratmangler
09-06-2013, 11:35
I thought she was in pain?

Anyway, it just illustrates how different we all are. I personally find the whole thing rather abhorrent and have real issues will the entire priciple of what they are doing, both to the artists and music industry as a whole, be it X-Factor, BGT and this latest offering - its just plain wrong as far as I'm concerned.

This is where I sit;

HlMqaAI_ebA

Sorry Alex, I still luurves ya' though :kiss:

I'm with Steve Hughes too :cool:

Alex_UK
09-06-2013, 11:44
Guess I'm "a bit of a bastard" then! :lol:

Rare Bird
09-06-2013, 11:50
You know while you lot are filling your heads full of this crap you could actually read a book & learn something ;)

Tim
09-06-2013, 12:13
Guess I'm "a bit of a bastard" then!
:rfl:

StanleyB
09-06-2013, 13:21
These shows are heavily sanitized. You won't find any of the talents on display in the red light district of Amsterdam.

Gordon Steadman
09-06-2013, 14:10
Sorry to go off topic, but is this by choice?

Actually, new Macs don't have flash installed, so its not a case of it being disabled. You can install it yourself from the Adobe Web site.

I have a safari plugin on my Mac called ClickToFlash. This stops flash content loading automatically, which reduces page load times. Then you can choose which flash content you'd like to see.

In the settings you can choose to convert flash to HTML5, so you could probably avoid installing flash altogether, but I haven't tested that.

You can get the plugin here (http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/)

Wots a new Mac?

I have an ancient G5 twin processor that still works beautifully and is quicker than my wife's Intel Mini. I disabled Flash on purpose because of the number of times it either crashed or slowed everything to a halt. I've tried Click to Flash but frankly, can't be bothered and there is very little out there that interests me enough to want it operating. MacTubes is extremely good for watching YouTube so that is enough for me.

I don't use Safari either as its so slow now. I use Opera if I need full functionality for payments etc. but Omniweb for normal use as its quicker than all the rest. It does have a few quirks:doh:.

Thanks for the guidance though, its appreciated.

webby
09-06-2013, 15:32
Thanks for the guidance though, its appreciated.

No problem.

Marco
11-06-2013, 17:28
These shows are heavily sanitized. You won't find any of the talents on display in the red light district of Amsterdam.

Lol - the best thing that's happened is the daft bint on BGT who chucked eggs at Simon Cowell:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2339286/Those-eggs-M-S-organic--I-hid-tights-Publicity-stunt--anti-Cowell-protest-The-BGT-egg-chucker-confesses-all.html

:mental: It'd have been even funnier if they'd smashed and she'd been left with a runny, raw omelette, inside her tights! :lol:

Marco.

pjdowns
12-06-2013, 19:08
Wots a new Mac?

I have an ancient G5 twin processor that still works beautifully and is quicker than my wife's Intel Mini. I disabled Flash on purpose because of the number of times it either crashed or slowed everything to a halt. I've tried Click to Flash but frankly, can't be bothered and there is very little out there that interests me enough to want it operating. MacTubes is extremely good for watching YouTube so that is enough for me.

I don't use Safari either as its so slow now. I use Opera if I need full functionality for payments etc. but Omniweb for normal use as its quicker than all the rest. It does have a few quirks:doh:.

Thanks for the guidance though, its appreciated.

I personally have a G5 iMac and a Intel iMac and on some websites find the G5 better.

Flash is an appalling program, I find it can lockup the entire machine be it a PC or an Apple Mac.

I remember reading somewhere that, hmm, I think it might have been Steve Jobs saying that they wouldn't install Flash on iOS (iPhones / iPad etc) devises because it consistently caused them to have problems and was the only thing that went wrong on a Mac, yes I am sure some of that statement was bravado, but he had a point!

I think Webby was referring to recent Intel based Mac's which don't come with Flash installed as default, but you have a choice to install it yourself if you want once you have the machine.

P.

Gordon Steadman
12-06-2013, 19:26
I think Webby was referring to recent Intel based Mac's which don't come with Flash installed as default, but you have a choice to install it yourself if you want once you have the machine.

P.

I think I was being facetious:eyebrows:

pjdowns
14-06-2013, 00:33
I think I was being facetious:eyebrows:

Doh! I am not that quick you know LOL ;)

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 19:27
Leah to win - if not another example of the British public not having a clue - imho


Regards Neil

Gordon Steadman
22-06-2013, 19:55
Leah to win - if not another example of the British public not having a clue - imho


Regards Neil

Wow:eek:

I don't have a TV but catch up occasionally on the Tube. After your comment, I couldn't resist having a look at Leah.

Can I assume then, that all the others are considerably worse?

Tim
22-06-2013, 20:12
Well I took a leaf out of Gordon's book and just put Leah into YouTube for another dose of pain........... there are insufficient words in the English language to describe how shockingly dreadful she is. I had to stop all 3 of the videos and the longest I could stomach was 22 seconds. I'm scratching my head with confusion now, trying to work out how any of you guys can think she's talented - this is utter shite of the highest order :lol:

(all IMHO of course . . . ;))

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/coat_zps1e205754.gif

Gordon Steadman
22-06-2013, 20:18
Well I took a leaf out of Gordon's book and just put Leah into YouTube for another dose of pain........... there are insufficient words in the English language to describe how shockingly dreadful she is. I had to stop all 3 of the videos and the longest I could stomach was 22 seconds. I'm scratching my head with confusion now, trying to work out how any of you guys can think she's talented - this is utter shite of the highest order :lol:

(all IMHO of course . . . ;))


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/coat_zps1e205754.gif

How in god's name did you last for 22 seconds??:scratch:

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 20:21
Well I am shocked Andrea is a nice girl, with a nice tone but her diction, pronunciation was poor. Not much point in singing if you can't make out what is being sung about - imho of course.

I will get my coat.......


Regards Neil

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 20:22
Well I took a leaf out of Gordon's book and just put Leah into YouTube for another dose of pain........... there are insufficient words in the English language to describe how shockingly dreadful she is. I had to stop all 3 of the videos and the longest I could stomach was 22 seconds. I'm scratching my head with confusion now, trying to work out how any of you guys can think she's talented - this is utter shite of the highest order :lol:

(all IMHO of course . . . ;))

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/greatgig/coat_zps1e205754.gif

yep a case of Marmite....

I like what she does it floats my boat.


Regards Neil

Alex_UK
22-06-2013, 20:24
yep a case of Marmite....

I like what she does it floats my boat.


Regards Neil

+1
I love her quirkiness. Surely the winner.

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 20:26
+1
I love her quirkiness. Surely the winner.

Nope, she lost.....


Regards Neil

The Grand Wazoo
22-06-2013, 20:31
I thought I'd better have a look too (YouTube).
All things considered, I think it would be best if I refrain from giving my opinion! Say no more.

Alex_UK
22-06-2013, 20:46
Nope, she lost.....


Regards Neil

I'm watching it on record...! :doh:

DSJR
22-06-2013, 20:56
You could have emailed your pal back while you were watching it :(

Alex_UK
22-06-2013, 21:00
You could have emailed your pal back while you were watching it :(

I did! ;)

DSJR
22-06-2013, 21:07
Thanks :cool:

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 21:36
ooooppsssssss sorry :doh:

Alex_UK
22-06-2013, 21:40
You weren't to know Neil - and in fact I did wonder if reading this thread was a wise move! :lol:

Tim
22-06-2013, 21:49
I did wonder if reading this thread was a wise move!
Probably better than watching the show :lol:

Spectral Morn
22-06-2013, 21:58
You weren't to know Neil - and in fact I did wonder if reading this thread was a wise move! :lol:

Its too easy to forget about catch up TV and I player etc, that others watch that way. Not saying I don't but my indignation at what I considered was the best artist/voice loosing overrode my taking your situation into account . Once again sorry.

Do watch the show though Alex, Leah's track with Will I am was very good imho.


Regards Neil

Alex_UK
22-06-2013, 22:07
No need to apologise Neil! I rarely watch anything live these days, life gets in the way of live!

And Tim - you're not funny! Ok, maybe you are! :lol: :kiss:

hifi_dave
23-06-2013, 09:25
For what it's worth, I think Leah has a very 'interesting' voice, which I'm sure Will I Am will be making the most of in the years to come. Her voice came into play in her 'duet' with Will but I couldn't stand the way she mangled all of the normal songs she has sung throughout the series.

The best by far for me was Jessie J's man ( can't recall his name). He had real talent which I could listen to, whereas the others were just amateurs. I always use the yardstick of 'would I buy an album from' and he was the only possible for me.

Gordon Steadman
23-06-2013, 09:43
For what it's worth, I think Leah has a very 'interesting' voice, which I'm sure Will I Am will be making the most of in the years to come. Her voice came into play in her 'duet' with Will but I couldn't stand the way she mangled all of the normal songs she has sung throughout the series.

The best by far for me was Jessie J's man ( can't recall his name). He had real talent which I could listen to, whereas the others were just amateurs. I always use the yardstick of 'would I buy an album from' and he was the only possible for me.

If you mean Mike Ward, I agree (don't know if he was Jessie J's man!!). After wincing at Leah, I had a look at a few others and actually downloaded one of his songs to keep. Now that doesn't happen very often!! No messing about with the acting artistic and showing how meaningful it all is, just actually singing, rather well. A bit rare these days.

pjdowns
26-06-2013, 13:57
If you mean Mike Ward, I agree (don't know if he was Jessie J's man!!). After wincing at Leah, I had a look at a few others and actually downloaded one of his songs to keep. Now that doesn't happen very often!! No messing about with the acting artistic and showing how meaningful it all is, just actually singing, rather well. A bit rare these days.

+1 - he has a good voice and is a great entertainer!