Flat Records

[Rare Bird]

Is it me or are records never perfectly flat these days! Or is it de rigueur that you use a record clamp? I mean im probably moaning over nothing but anyone else notice this??

[Wakefield Turntables]

No I agree with you records seem to be a little warped! I've bought quite a few new releases Black Sabbath Technical Ectasy, Sabbotage and Iron Maiden - Maiden'88. They all seem to be as bent as buggers! :steam:

[YNWaN]

Actually, I'm finding that they are, in general, better than they used to be.

[Thing Fish]

Last few i've bought have been quite good. Maybe i've just been lucky?

[Rare Bird]

Lucky! Um well the last 100 or so i aint been so!!

[chelsea]

Found them all fine of late.

[MartinT]

Most of my recent purchases have been very flat. I do use a record weight, but that's for better sound quality rather than an attempt to flatten them.

[Barry]

One of my audio friends recently bought the Led Zepplin boxed set 'Mothership'. He claims all four records are far from being flat. So much so, that he gets excessive bass driver cone movement.

He has loaned them to me to see if I have a problem with them.

I haven't bought a new record for a long time, but I would have thought the heavyweight vinyl editions available ought to be reasonable flat. It has to be remembered that in their hayday, the quality control at most pressing plants would only reject a record if its deviation from flatness exceeded 1mm.

[prestonchipfryer]

I've had quite a few that are far from flat. Very disappointing as I would expect them not to be warped.

Hendrix - Buena Vista Social Club - Mettallica (Puppets) all not as expected.

John

[Rare Bird]

They are not warps as such just slightly wavey at the edges of the record

One of these (below) is an idea but i have concerns about adding 1.5Kg to the platter

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[Marco]

I think the term you're looking for, Andre, is 'dished'.

It's down to a lack of proper quality control, during the vinyl manufacturing process and the use of inferior materials. It's as simple as that. I often encounter the same problem, even with brand new supposedly 'high-quality', 'audiophile' pressings! It does my tits in :rolleyes:

Strangely, NONE of my (many 100s) of late 50s and early-to-mid 60s classical/jazz records are like that, and are 100% FLAT, on nice heavyweight vinyl, as standard...

I wonder why that is, eh?? :scratch:

Marco.

[MartinT]

Too much use of recycled vinyl these days, as a necessity.

[morris_minor]

And then there's off-centre spindle holes ... What's the good having a TT with good wow figures when the records are swingers?


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[prestonchipfryer]

Strangely, NONE of my (many 100s) of late 50s and early-to-mid 60s classical/jazz records are like that, and are 100% FLAT, on nice heavyweight vinyl, as standard...

I wonder why that is, eh?? :scratch:

Marco.


Because they were made properly. Remember a long-playing record is a precision piece of engineering, and in days gone by, were treated as such by the manufacturers. I wonder now, if the greatest skill of making vinyl records has been 'lost' somewhere along the line.

John

[Rare Bird]

I think the term you're looking for, Andre, is 'dished'.



No they arnt dished they are slighly wavey, i get pissed orf paying £20-25 a time for this, returning the record adds on another £4 post out of my pocket.. to be refunded which is yet another loss of your original postage :steam: Im over a barrel because to buy an original for most the music i buy your looking at anything from £100-£1K

:steam::steam:

[MartinT]

Buy a Dynavector arm and you'll never even notice warps ever again :)

[Rare Bird]

Well i have a Transcriptor 'Vestigal' arm in a box.. I don't have a problem with the slight waves as i can't hear anything detrimental, i just find it annoying.

[Marco]

Join the club, dude. Shoddy workmanship always rips my knitting. John was spot-on earlier....

Marco.

[daytona600]

Vacuum platter or a good record clamp should do the trick
my 30year old oracle delphi plays even stupidly warped vinyl