Wtd: Belkin Pf30 or 40 [Archive] - The Art of Sound Forum

icehockeyboy

23-03-2013, 11:05

Pop over to Amazon, search Belkin AV Isolater, you will find a unit that has the same innards as the one you are looking for, but just not in the same casing.

These were the subject of discussion a while ago, and on the strength of that a number of folk bought them, myself included, they are very good, and beat my Tacima too.

RRP is around £70, so the sub £25 they are selling at is a no brainier.

Btw, tried to do a link for you, but it wouldn't work!

Canetoad

23-03-2013, 18:05

I use one of those in my bedroom system. Seem to work OK. :)

synsei

23-03-2013, 18:37

Amazon link to Belkin AV Isolator (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Isolator-Cinema-Protector-Sockets/dp/B0002AG9SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364063782&sr=8-1) ;)

prestonchipfryer

23-03-2013, 20:29

synsei

23-03-2013, 20:37

Thinking of selling my PF30 tbh as I'd get an extra two mains sockets with the version on Amazon. Does anybody have experience of both units powering their system and if so, did you note any differences in SQ?

darekbrodzik

23-03-2013, 23:13

That's a grate question about sound quality as I'd mainly need it for audio.
Still interested in pf30 :) so if wanna sell it synsei might come to a deal?

synsei

23-03-2013, 23:19

I'll get back to you on that one Darek, I'd like to be certain that it will not be a retrograde step before I make a decision ;)

darekbrodzik

23-03-2013, 23:21

That's fine mate.

loosend

24-03-2013, 03:34

The 6 way version is only £17.36
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AGFRK/ref=s9subs_c6_23_at3-rfc_g1-frt_g1-3215_p-3102_g1?pf_rd_m=A3P5

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 09:50

Anybody that could share some experiences??

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 10:26

I have a PF30 , use it with my AV system and I like it , listening to vinyl via my other Techy , SLQL1 through the phono of my Yamaha RVX1700 sounding very enjoyable and surprisingly not lacking in dynamics or punch ?

I put an old ABC album on , and the first track show me , when the bass kicked in made my cat jump out of the sofa he was reposing on , this surprised me as they do increase impedance and are alleged to kill some life ?

Worth waiting for a PF 30 .

Effem

24-03-2013, 10:51

Worth waiting for a PF 30 .

+1

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 11:38

Fair enough.Think will just wait...Came across this Tacima IFI23 this morning.
Any idea of how good this thing is? Is it better than Pf30?

loosend

24-03-2013, 11:38

Had a PF40 up against an Isotek GII Minisub and much Prefered the Belkin, soi bought a PF50, which is supposedly better again, I only use it for the TV and a few other bits as I use an Isol-8 Powerline Axis for the hifi, it is by far the best mains block I've ever tried and I've tried plenty :)

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 11:44

Where did You get from Dan and how long ago? Would you recomend it fo hi fi?

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 11:52

Fair enough.Think will just wait...Came across this Tacima IFI23 this morning.
Any idea of how good this thing is? Is it better than Pf30?

Looks very similar to the Belkin , how much is it ?

Also consider the Mark Grant mains block , not cheap and no filtering but said to be excellent .

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 11:58

Cheapest I found was 130ish in one of interent shops..There is one in maplin which is stage 2 and it's 200 quid!

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 12:12

Cheapest I found was 130ish in one of interent shops..There is one in maplin which is stage 2 and it's 200 quid!

If you're considering spending that much ? Talk to Mark Grant about his block maybe ?

Hang on for PF30 , mine cost me £18 ! 2nd hand is your best bet ?

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 12:15

Whoaaa that was a good price then, shame nobody there to sell one...

icehockeyboy

24-03-2013, 12:21

+1

May I ask why, bearing in mind the only difference is the casing? :scratch:

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 12:26

Just looks more solid though...Is it 100 % the only one difference?Just the case?

Macca

24-03-2013, 12:27

Amazon link to Belkin AV Isolator (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Isolator-Cinema-Protector-Sockets/dp/B0002AG9SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364063782&sr=8-1) ;)

Classic user review from someone who is clearly terminally caps-locked:

HAVING RECENTLY BEEN TO MY LOCAL HOSPITAL AND HAD MY EARING AND SIGHT TESTED TO WHICH THE RESULTS WHERE PERFECT I DECIEDED TO PURCHASE A COUPLE OF THESE . ALL MY EQUIPMENT IS WHAT HIFI 5 STAR RATED. I HAVE TRIED THESE PURE AV'S ALSO TRIED A CHEAP ALTERNATIVE FROM THE DIY SHOP AND I CAN'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT SO EVER . WITH THESE PURE AV'S THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE TO SOUND OR PICTURE QUALITY WHAT SO EVER. IT IS BUILT WELL & LOOKS NICE . BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW OTHER PEOPLE GET A BETTER PICTURE ON THEIR TV WITH THIS OR BETTER SOUND QUALITY ? SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS . SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN GHOSTS .
AND SOME BELIEVE THIS PRODUCT DOES WHAT IT SAYS IT DOES ?
IF YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS PRODUCT MAKE SURE YOU GET A 100% SATISFACTION OR MONEY BACK GUARENTEE . WILL THE MANAFACTURER GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK ? I THINK NOT .
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THIS PRODUCT WAS FAULTY ?
BE CAREFUL & DON'T GET SUCKED IN TO WASTING DECENT MONEY .
I GIVE IT 2 STARS FOR GOOD LOOKS AND THE METAL CASING THAT'S ALL. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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All his equipment is what hi-fi 5 star rated - well that's that then isn't it? :lol:

Always remember - don't plug your amp(s) into these things unless you want all the dynamics to go away.

The Grand Wazoo

24-03-2013, 12:43

It's great that his local hospital offered a test on his earing too! Shame that they don't seem to offer the same service for his matching necklace.

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 13:06

May I ask why, bearing in mind the only difference is the casing? :scratch:

Is it , have you looked inside both then ?

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 13:10

Classic user review from someone who is clearly terminally caps-locked:

HAVING RECENTLY BEEN TO MY LOCAL HOSPITAL AND HAD MY EARING AND SIGHT TESTED TO WHICH THE RESULTS WHERE PERFECT I DECIEDED TO PURCHASE A COUPLE OF THESE . ALL MY EQUIPMENT IS WHAT HIFI 5 STAR RATED. I HAVE TRIED THESE PURE AV'S ALSO TRIED A CHEAP ALTERNATIVE FROM THE DIY SHOP AND I CAN'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT SO EVER . WITH THESE PURE AV'S THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE TO SOUND OR PICTURE QUALITY WHAT SO EVER. IT IS BUILT WELL & LOOKS NICE . BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW OTHER PEOPLE GET A BETTER PICTURE ON THEIR TV WITH THIS OR BETTER SOUND QUALITY ? SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS . SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IN GHOSTS .
AND SOME BELIEVE THIS PRODUCT DOES WHAT IT SAYS IT DOES ?
IF YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS PRODUCT MAKE SURE YOU GET A 100% SATISFACTION OR MONEY BACK GUARENTEE . WILL THE MANAFACTURER GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK ? I THINK NOT .
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THIS PRODUCT WAS FAULTY ?
BE CAREFUL & DON'T GET SUCKED IN TO WASTING DECENT MONEY .
I GIVE IT 2 STARS FOR GOOD LOOKS AND THE METAL CASING THAT'S ALL. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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All his equipment is what hi-fi 5 star rated - well that's that then isn't it? :lol:

Always remember - don't plug your amp(s) into these things unless you want all the dynamics to go away.

Good advice but that's what I've done and unless my hearings gone :wheniwasaboy: No loss in dynamics at all :scratch:

icehockeyboy

24-03-2013, 13:13

Is it , have you looked inside both then ?

Not personally, but one of the nice chaps here posted that they were the same innards, and I trust everyone here 100% ! ;)

chris@panteg

24-03-2013, 13:18

Not personally, but one of the nice chaps here posted that they were the same innards, and I trust everyone here 100% ! ;)

Interesting , the RRP of the PF30 when new was around £100 or about that ?

The block is what about £30 ish , is that a discounted price I don't know but if they are identical then thats a right royal rip off , but I only bought it at the low price out of curiousity anyway , no way at a 100 rags .

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 13:48

Guy from other forum offered one for 100 delivered? Considering pf40 was at amazing offer of 40ish for new at some point I think its a bit expensive...

icehockeyboy

24-03-2013, 16:20

Interesting , the RRP of the PF30 when new was around £100 or about that ?

The block is what about £30 ish , is that a discounted price I don't know but if they are identical then thats a right royal rip off , but I only bought it at the low price out of curiousity anyway , no way at a 100 rags .

The RRP of the non PF 30 is around £68, so anything lower is discounted.

£68 to £100 isn't such a big jump, but whether you need or want its sexier case is up to you.

Canetoad

24-03-2013, 16:47

I have a PF30 in my AV system and even my wife commented that the picture on the TV was better, and she doesn't usually give a toss one way or the other!

I have a PF40 on my hifi system and I think it does make improvements to the sound. I don't run the amps through it though. I also use quality linear PSUs on Dac, Touch and TT so I'm not sure how much the PF40 actually adds to the mix. I haven't run it with and without to check.

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 17:12

I like the way you name it "sexier case" Craig. It is about the look of it aswell isn't?

icehockeyboy

24-03-2013, 17:20

I like the way you name it "sexier case" Craig. It is about the look of it aswell isn't?

My block is hidden, so that isnt an issue to me. :)

Effem

24-03-2013, 18:26

Fair enough.Think will just wait...Came across this Tacima IFI23 this morning.
Any idea of how good this thing is? Is it better than Pf30?

Nope, the Belkin is streets ahead of the Tacima :eyebrows:

synsei

24-03-2013, 18:34

Effem

24-03-2013, 18:42

The Tacima unit Darek is referring to is not their mains block Frank, rather a product built along similar lines to the PF30. Amazon had units available for £150 in both black and silver finish until fairly recently. I know nothing more about them other than that however.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416Hj4uzjvL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Yes I know he wasn't talking about the strip style mains block Dave :eyebrows:]

I have owned the aforesaid "silver box" 6 outlet unit and the PF30 which I still have now. I had compression issues with the Tacima unit and the PF30 doesn't plus it actually enhances what I hear through it.

loosend

24-03-2013, 18:53

The test against the Isotek was with hifi, I would definitely experiment with plugging the amp directly into the wall and the rest of the gear into the filter to see what u prefer

synsei

24-03-2013, 18:53

Yes I know he wasn't talking about the strip style mains block Dave :eyebrows:]

I have owned the aforesaid "silver box" 6 outlet unit and the PF30 which I still have now. I had compression issues with the Tacima unit and the PF30 doesn't plus it actually enhances what I hear through it.

Fairy nuff... ;)

darekbrodzik

24-03-2013, 20:53

Right guys :) The aswer is only one and it is eithter PF30 or PF40.Perhaps I should consider Isotek minisub stuff??

loosend

25-03-2013, 01:25

No! The Belkin is better than the minisubs
What is ur budget?

icehockeyboy

25-03-2013, 08:45

Right guys :) The aswer is only one and it is eithter PF30 or PF40.Perhaps I should consider Isotek minisub stuff??

If what they reckon on here is true, inasmuch as only the casework is different, failing getting hold of a PF 30 or 40, I honestly don't think you would go wrong at all with my first suggestion.
Unless of course it will be on display!

Macca

25-03-2013, 08:48

If what they reckon on here is true, inasmuch as only the casework is different, failing getting hold of a PF 30 or 40, I honestly don't think you would go wrong at all with my first suggestion.
Unless of course it will be on display!

I agree I have a couple of the Belkin blocks and they work just fine. Folk get too hung up on this stuff. If you really want to peace of mind with your mains then get a regenerator, otherwise the Belkin will do the job as well as anything else will.

darekbrodzik

25-03-2013, 18:15

No! The Belkin is better than the minisubs
What is ur budget?

Is it realy better? These minisubs start from 150ish up 500???.I wanted to spend up to 100 realy but don't know now:)

And yes Craig it would be on display I'd think..

darekbrodzik

25-03-2013, 18:24

Pf 40 on ebay now but pick up only...gutted!!

Effem

25-03-2013, 19:25

Don't let that put you off. Many a seller will agree to put it into a box and for you to arrange the courier collection.

Ask, the worst the seller can do is say "no" :eyebrows:

loosend

25-03-2013, 19:52

I agree with Frank, persevere and u will get one :)

darekbrodzik

25-03-2013, 20:15

What's the fair price these days for pf40?

Effem

25-03-2013, 20:26

What's the fair price these days for pf40?

I'm donald ducked if I know :scratch:

When they were brand new current stock they were well over £200 . . . . . then Belkin reduced the price to below £40 . . . . . . . which created a stampede to buy up the remaining stocks . . . . . . then a wave of poor lost souls have been trawling the web ever since looking for any available.

It's worth whatever you and anyone else want to tussle over buying it, so set your top amount to bid and wait :eek:

icehockeyboy

26-03-2013, 11:05

Bloody hell! £110 ......seems steep bearing in mind how much Effem said they were sold off for.

loosend

26-03-2013, 11:45

Bloody hell! £110 ......seems steep bearing in mind how much Effem said they were sold off for.
I paid £125 plus £15 postage for mine and worth every penny

Effem

26-03-2013, 12:13

Bloody hell! £110 ......seems steep bearing in mind how much Effem said they were sold off for.

Yes I know it's a bit rich what price they do attract now Craig - I have been looking for a cheap PF40 for ages and I have more chance of swimming the atlantic than getting one at the price I knew they were selling at.

However, given that they can embarass the Isotek and a good few other conditioners at considerably more money, it is still very good value for money.

Dingdong

26-03-2013, 14:55

There is a bloke on the wam with two for sale for £50 each.

darekbrodzik

26-03-2013, 19:14

There is a bloke on the wam with two for sale for £50 each.

Which bloke and where? Any links by a chance?

myles

26-03-2013, 19:15

Sorry, he posted as them both sold about an hour ago.

darekbrodzik

26-03-2013, 19:19

Just benn looking at them....proper missed out!Thnks

Dingdong

26-03-2013, 22:06

They do go quickly. Maybe putting a wanted ad on a few forums might help.

darekbrodzik

26-03-2013, 22:53

I've got wanted add on avforums.Got offered pf30 for 100quid:)

Dingdong

26-03-2013, 23:04

£100. I got my two bloody cheap then.

icehockeyboy

27-03-2013, 09:30

Yes I know it's a bit rich what price they do attract now Craig - I have been looking for a cheap PF40 for ages and I have more chance of swimming the atlantic than getting one at the price I knew they were selling at.

However, given that they can embarass the Isotek and a good few other conditioners at considerably more money, it is still very good value for money.

But if what I was told on here, about only the casing being different to the Belkin unit that I have, and of course assuming it won't be on show, why not grab the other unit (that I have) and is at a silly low price?

Effem

27-03-2013, 10:08

But if what I was told on here, about only the casing being different to the Belkin unit that I have, and of course assuming it won't be on show, why not grab the other unit (that I have) and is at a silly low price?

:doh: I'm confused Craig :scratch:

What unit are you talking about that only has a different casing to the other one that I have no idea about?? :eyebrows:

icehockeyboy

27-03-2013, 23:32

:doh: I'm confused Craig :scratch:

What unit are you talking about that only has a different casing to the other one that I have no idea about?? :eyebrows:

When I was on the trail of a PF 30/40, they had disappeared off sale due to the tremendous bargain they had become, but some helpful soul on here advised me that the Belkin PurevAV Home Theatre 6 and 8 way blocks were the same innards but in a different case.
The RRP of these was abou £68, which was not far off the RRP of the PF 30, so I did not pursue the sexier cased unit, and bought one of the others for something stupid like £20!

Alex_UK

27-03-2013, 23:40

This is the sort of thing - I use one in the summerhouse setup

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Belkin-6-Socket-Power-Strip-SurgeMaster-Mains-Extension-Surge-Protection-/181100829220?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Surge_Pr otectors_Power_Strips&hash=item2a2a735a24

icehockeyboy

28-03-2013, 08:46

Effem

28-03-2013, 09:28

When I was on the trail of a PF 30/40, they had disappeared off sale due to the tremendous bargain they had become, but some helpful soul on here advised me that the Belkin PurevAV Home Theatre 6 and 8 way blocks were the same innards but in a different case.
The RRP of these was abou £68, which was not far off the RRP of the PF 30, so I did not pursue the sexier cased unit, and bought one of the others for something stupid like £20!

Hate to piddle on your parade Craig but they are completely different animals.

The PF30/40/50/60 have a complex voltage and current sensing circuit which disconnects the mains during fault conditions via a hefty relay. In fact, when you press the on/off switch there is a delay of a few seconds while the relay clicks in and out which at times is a right pain when you are in a hurry. From the PF40 upwards there is a display screen which shows most of the incoming mains parameters. The extension block I believe has a simple on/off switch and not very sophisticated surge protection circuitry in comparison.

synsei

28-03-2013, 12:03

Thanks for that Frank. That's my mind made up then, the PF30 will be staying put ;)

icehockeyboy

28-03-2013, 12:07

Hate to piddle on your parade Craig but they are completely different animals.

The PF30/40/50/60 have a complex voltage and current sensing circuit which disconnects the mains during fault conditions via a hefty relay. In fact, when you press the on/off switch there is a delay of a few seconds while the relay clicks in and out which at times is a right pain when you are in a hurry. From the PF40 upwards there is a display screen which shows most of the incoming mains parameters. The extension block I believe has a simple on/off switch and not very sophisticated surge protection circuitry in comparison.

Well what I need to do now is find out who posted that internally they were the same, and then send Dinsdale and the boys round to nail his head to the coffee table. :lol:

Macca

28-03-2013, 13:05

Well what I need to do now is find out who posted that internally they were the same, and then send Dinsdale and the boys round to nail his head to the coffee table. :lol:

I know somebody did 'cause I remember it too...

keiths

28-03-2013, 13:09

I know somebody did 'cause I remember it too...

Pretty sure it was Mark (Reid Malenfant) who thought that the PF30 shared the same innards as this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Isolator-Cinema-Protector-Sockets/dp/B0002AG9SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364063782&sr=8-1

icehockeyboy

28-03-2013, 13:52

Phew!
Thanks guys, glad I didn't dream it :lol:

Macca

28-03-2013, 14:03

No you didn't dream it because I bought one of the 4 way blocks at the time. It has stickers on the various sockets for 'amp'. 'cd' etc. This is the one that is supposed to be the same as the PF30 internally. I'm not using it at the mo but I'll find out what model number it is.

Effem

28-03-2013, 20:06

Alex_UK

28-03-2013, 20:21

With total respek innit, units from higher up in the range can be had for only a few quid more. :)

Pologies, it was late, I lifted the first eBay auction and used the words "sort of thing" - wasn't meaning that exact thing. :)

loosend

28-03-2013, 20:33

Here's a PF40
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/danworth81/2b4f202590979ea36177ec21d6130193_zpsc5ada7a8.jpg

PF50
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/danworth81/5cd29f6b65e4bcac92bda8e67c419f3b_zps43a33346.jpg

PF60
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/danworth81/a92dfe881a808976f9f899b95a6d01ba_zpse89ae648.jpg

icehockeyboy

29-03-2013, 08:57

It took some searching out but I did manage to find a picture of a PF30 with the lid off

http://www.tdsf.co.uk/Audio/Images/PF30.jpg

I may be a bit old and daft, but I fail to see how the contents of this box could possibly fit into it's smaller sibling :scratch:

Looking at it, I'd say quite easily!
There's a lot of air inside that PF box, by sticking the sockets on the top helps things no end I would have thought. :)

Effem

29-03-2013, 09:44

My next mission is to find a picture of the extension block with the lid off. Spent an hour yesterday and drew no luck at all :rolleyes:

Macca

29-03-2013, 09:52

Okay dug out the 6 way mains block (I thought it was a 4 way) that is supposed to be the same as the PF30 - it is big and would easily fit all the gubbins inside. It has the 'Pure AV' tagger on the front, on the back it has a sticker with model number F9G623uk3M. Inputs are marked as CD, VCR, DVD, Receiver/amp, TV/monitor, cable/sat.

Effem

29-03-2013, 11:12

Looking at it, I'd say quite easily!
There's a lot of air inside that PF box, by sticking the sockets on the top helps things no end I would have thought. :)

So how do you know there is "a lot of air inside" Craig? :scratch:

I can't find a picture of the insides of this thing, so do us all a favour mate and crack the lid off the blessed thing and take a photie :)

chris@panteg

29-03-2013, 11:43

So how do you know there is "a lot of air inside" Craig? :scratch:

I can't find a picture of the insides of this thing, so do us all a favour mate and crack the lid off the blessed thing and take a photie :)

I don't think it is the same ! But a scaled down version of the filtering , I did a search and found the original RRP of the PF30 was actually £130 , block being 68 .

synsei

29-03-2013, 14:40

chris@panteg

29-03-2013, 16:39

Maybe the Belkin 6-way mains block is not as sophisticated as the PF30 but it does offer mains filtering as well as surge protection and at £16.36 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Isolator-Cinema-Protector-Sockets/dp/tech-data/B0002AGFRK/ref=de_a_smtd) it has got to be worth a punt... ;)

Yes , quite agree ! They certainly improve my digital kit , even the tacima makes my Sony Bravia look better , took it off yesterday as I was moving things around and briefly used a decent but very basic campaign audio design block , and the picture became noticeably darker and murky ?

Quite shocked and put the tacima back in pronto !

Daniel75

30-03-2013, 11:05

My next mission is to find a picture of the extension block with the lid off. Spent an hour yesterday and drew no luck at all :rolleyes:

What about the pic which is on the box? You can kinda see what's in it :)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6572/belkinsurgeprotectorf9a.jpg

icehockeyboy

30-03-2013, 15:12

So how do you know there is "a lot of air inside" Craig? :scratch:

I can't find a picture of the insides of this thing, so do us all a favour mate and crack the lid off the blessed thing and take a photie :)

No!
I was saying the PF 30 had a lot of air insie it, thus it would fit into a different shaped housing! :)

Effem

31-03-2013, 15:11

No!
I was saying the PF 30 had a lot of air insie it, thus it would fit into a different shaped housing! :)

Ya great big wilbur!!! :mental:

That PCB you see found within the PF30 would also have to fit into the extension block version to qualify the statement that the "PF30 and the extension block are the same barring the fancy casing". I say it isn't and our colleague above shows us in peephole fashion the shape of the PCBs are miles apart.

Does the extension block have a delay on power up and down with the sound of a big relay kicking in and out like what the PF30 does?

chris@panteg

31-03-2013, 16:12

Frank , I think you've won the argument ! Craig is just digging himself into a deeper hole .

Its worth a punt at the price that's the main thing .

brian2957

31-03-2013, 16:13

I use one of these so +1 on that Chris.

Effem

31-03-2013, 20:05

Frank , I think you've won the argument ! Craig is just digging himself into a deeper hole .

Its worth a punt at the price that's the main thing .

Amen to that :)

icehockeyboy

02-04-2013, 22:53

Amen to that :)

Whoa mi bredrin! :lol:

All along I have stated that it was someone here that posted that apart from the case, they were the same!

I have as far as I recall always referred to that. :)

icehockeyboy

03-04-2013, 11:40

Take a look at the thread started by Guy B asking for a PF 30 40 or 50 re why I thought they were the same innards as what I got, and it was indeed Reid Malevolent that said it was.

sidmini

04-04-2013, 09:37

Keep your eye out on ebay...these things turn up. I just bought a new PF40 and arranged courier via parcel2go.com .

Still to get it all plugged up

TomScrut

05-04-2013, 15:47

Ya great big wilbur!!! :mental:

That PCB you see found within the PF30 would also have to fit into the extension block version to qualify the statement that the "PF30 and the extension block are the same barring the fancy casing". I say it isn't and our colleague above shows us in peephole fashion the shape of the PCBs are miles apart.

Does the extension block have a delay on power up and down with the sound of a big relay kicking in and out like what the PF30 does?

I have a pf40 and one of the 8 way blocks, the 8 way block is pretty rubbish imo compared to my tacima blocks and a lot worse than the pf40. I could be persuaded to part with the pf40 for the right money as its currently not in use as I do not have space for it on the rack! Pm me if interested.

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darekbrodzik

05-04-2013, 18:21

pm sent

TomScrut

05-04-2013, 20:53

Pm replied to

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chris@panteg

06-04-2013, 06:40

I have a pf40 and one of the 8 way blocks, the 8 way block is pretty rubbish imo compared to my tacima blocks and a lot worse than the pf40. I could be persuaded to part with the pf40 for the right money as its currently not in use as I do not have space for it on the rack! Pm me if interested.

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Which 8 way block though ? There are some very basic ones Belkin make , the tacima is ok but not that great :rolleyes:

TomScrut

06-04-2013, 13:07

Which 8 way block though ? There are some very basic ones Belkin make , the tacima is ok but not that great :rolleyes:

It's the pureav one made out of an Ali extrusion with phone and tv on it too. I think the same one as which the argument earlier was about, hence why I mentioned it!

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icehockeyboy

06-04-2013, 13:26

Which 8 way block though ? There are some very basic ones Belkin make , the tacima is ok but not that great :rolleyes:

The Belkin that I bought, same as the picture that is posted a while ago saw off the Tacima with no problem. :ner:

Possibly why people have differing opinions might be down to how good their mains are in the first place? :scratch:

chris@panteg

06-04-2013, 14:04

The Belkin that I bought, same as the picture that is posted a while ago saw off the Tacima with no problem. :ner:

Possibly why people have differing opinions might be down to how good their mains are in the first place? :scratch:

Yep , I agree with that !

Well I've taken a punt on the Belkin pure AV 6 way for £20 delivered , and I'm rather pleased with it , been using it today and it's seen off the tacima , but it's also seen off the MCRU 6 way with fancy Furutech plug :eek: though it's early days yet but what an impressive bit of kit for 20 rags .

It does look the biz , looking at the photo on the box , it's very similar but not quite the same as the PF30 , but who cares ? I recommend getting one of these at this price while you can .

TomScrut

06-04-2013, 14:14

chris@panteg

06-04-2013, 14:26

Well I thought it sounded worse but that was with my Linn Majik DSI when I had it and they recommend not using mains filters so it might have had an adverse affect, but I had a ground loop issue and not enough wall plugs so I needed something with lots of plugs on it. They all seem to make the Classe amp sound worse but that might be due to power throughput? Again they recommend putting it into the wall.

Tom

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Tom I suspect results will be unpredictable at best with these things ? Linn kit has quite a bit of filtering built in I believe , so that might explain it , not sure but it's working for me at the moment , certainly with CD replay so far .

I've got my pearl lite amp plugged in too and I'm not disappointed with the sounds I'm hearing ? Very strange .