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Canetoad
19-03-2013, 14:34
I'm finally getting around to building the enclosure for the Moth record cleaning kit I bought ages ago. I'm using Conti board, which is covered in white melamine.
I'm going to use biscuits to construct it but was wondering what sort of glue to use? Screws are out as I want to have a nice clean finish. Joins will be a mix of chipboard surface and melamine. Would wood glue work OK with the biscuits and clamps or could I use silicone, which would add waterproofing to all joins? Alternatively, should I use some kind of epoxy glue?
oscarsaudio
19-03-2013, 15:09
a standard water proof wood glue should be ok, maybe run a bead of silicone around the inside joints if their in danger of getting wet .
Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 16:22
I used to use this when making Hardwood Windows & Door frames
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cascamite-Powdered-Resin-Wood-Glue/dp/B0001OZI98
rusty bearing
19-03-2013, 18:28
No I didn't want screws to show either but I felt that the contiboard method didn't a(look very processional and b) wrong material in a wet/damp environment.
So I built mine with 15mm birch plywood and laminated the exterior. Internally its sealed with a coat of varnish and then panels of sound deadening material @2mm thick have been cut and applied with a spray contact adhesive. Internal corners sealed with sanitory quality silicone.
The laminate is only 0.5 mill thick so doesn't alter the dimensions. Plenty of room inside for soundproofing.
All that means I could glue with standard PVA and screw it together as well.
Looks like this, in fetching blue.....
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For your build I think silicone would give better results than wood glue. The other alternative, if you feel confident, would be to use Mitrebond aka the kitchen fitters friend, a two part cyanoacrylate glue that sets in @ 10 seconds and then run a bead of silicone around all internal angles.
Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 23:22
Where can you buy those suction arms for 12'' record plus the mounting collar ?
Ive spotted those Beer Barrel taps in the home brew shop.
rusty bearing
19-03-2013, 23:44
The fittings seem to be mostly 22mm overflow pipe so perhaps make one from that?
Rare Bird
19-03-2013, 23:50
:eek:
walpurgis
20-03-2013, 09:40
If there's any likelihood of it getting wet, don't use contiboard, as moisture causes it to swell and 'blow' the laminate off. You might get away with it if you seal all exposed edges and put a bead of silicone sealer around internal joints.
I used the 18mm contiboard, joined using panel pins and countersunk screws and then used car body filler, primer and rattle cans to waterproof inside and out. I used a fillet of silicone sealant on all joints where cut board was exposed.
Still looks good after a year of use, with no swelling. Paint finish would have been very good if I hadn't lost patience and also been so cack-handed!.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8290/7864929824_6f7b7084f1_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14548229@N07/7864929824/)
20120826_165248 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14548229@N07/7864929824/) by alexmastersuk (http://www.flickr.com/people/14548229@N07/), on Flickr
All look better than mine - which I did with 15mm contiboard, glued and screwed. Silicone seal on all joints and bare wood (inside holes etc)and 'sticky back plastic' on the ouside with angle aluminium to tidy the edges up.
No sign of any moisture damage after two years use.
http://www.simister.com/public/rcm1.jpg
rusty bearing
20-03-2013, 18:10
Both equally fine examples of assembled Moth kits Alex & Keith!
The only part in real danger of getting wet is the top really. You could add an extra layer of laminate on for the belt and braces approach?
At the end of the day they are good machines and if you weren't happy with the design or damp got in just remake it.:)
Rare Bird
20-03-2013, 18:15
5mm Acrylic top board.
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