Recommend a wall-mounted turntable support

[losenotaminute]

Due to a very bouncy floor, I need to wall-mount a shelf / support for my turntable. Can anyone recommend something that is good value and easy to install please?

[Rare Bird]

'Custom Design' Turntable Wall Shelf, i replaced the glass with granite

[SquireC]

The Podium Oak shelf is excellent. Not cheap.

Rare Bird, PM me your e-mail address please.

[chelsea]

I'd say any.
Go with a cheap one you like the look of.

[losenotaminute]

'Custom Design' Turntable Wall Shelf, i replaced the glass with granite

I like their wood ones:
http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/Hi-Fi-Racks-Podium-Wall-Shelf/product_3932

but the supports for the metal ones look a bit more sturdy.

Thanks for the link.

[Audioman]

This looks good value if you don't want fancy looks and should be very strong.

http://www.turntableworld.co.uk/accessory-zone-c13/support-products-c27/wall-mounts-c40/wm1-wallshelf-p613

[daytona600]

never heard or seen one but these look cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIm1WMOslu0

[Yomanze]

'Custom Design' Turntable Wall Shelf, i replaced the glass with granite

Very Mana. :P

[Rare Bird]

Don't say that :eek:

[DSJR]

The Target one (with shelf material to suit) was always a good one and better was the Audiotech (not sure if it's still available). The rega one has doubled in price in recent years (why?) yet for a ton can still be adapted for non Rega decks (upward spikes or nuts-n-balls into a suitable shelf).

[Rare Bird]

If you chop the cups off a Rega wall support (only spot welded) you can create a support that doesnt need a shelf on it, i did this for the last Pink Triangle TT i had. These can be picked up cheap.

:sofa:


I think Apollo do a good priced shelf.

[Theo]

If you have a solid rear wall, build your own:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/TFP_2007/DSC_1696.jpg

A couple of industrial brackets (these are capable of supporting 150kg), shelf material of your choice, 18mm ply back panel, good fixings.

[Tarzan]

If you have a solid rear wall, build your own:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/TFP_2007/DSC_1696.jpg

A couple of industrial brackets (these are capable of supporting 150kg), shelf material of your choice, 18mm ply back panel, good fixings.

Are those brackets the ones that work with "spur" fixing system and can be found at hardware stores everywhere Theo? If they were they are cheap indeed,and should work well:)

[Audioman]

Are those brackets the ones that work with "spur" fixing system and can be found at hardware stores everywhere Theo? If they were they are cheap indeed,and should work well:)

I don't think the cheap DIY store brackets will be strong enough - they are just pressed and folded thin steel. Theo said those are 'Industrial Strength'

[Chops]

One Decent shelf http://www.turntableworld.co.uk/departments-c49/accessory-zone-c13#m25. Got one of these myself and I've very pleased with it. Well made and pretty solid. Favourable reviews in HFW a few years back.

Chris

[Spectral Morn]

'Custom Design' Turntable Wall Shelf, i replaced the glass with granite

I second that recommendation - very nice :)


Regards Neil

[Theo]

I don't think the cheap DIY store brackets will be strong enough - they are just pressed and folded thin steel. Theo said those are 'Industrial Strength'

These are the ones - available in black, white or silver I believe:

http://www.locksonline.com/acatalog/fixed-shelf-bracket-150-kg-load-capacity-hebgo-11182.html

[Rare Bird]

150 kg is quite a load providing you use heavy duty wall bolts

[Theo]

I did :)

[the engine]

the custom design ( Google for details easy enough ) has 6 ! fixing holes....is a dead simple design and especially for a none suspension record player the included isolation platform tides the bass up luverly . Best I've had including target and several home made efforts including wood...slate shelved or even the old inner tube jobbee .
I don't know what's sandwiched between the two steel sheets....but it seemed tuned just right. And at a bloody good price . I called em about a larger isolation platform for a gyrodec....NO PROBS.

[losenotaminute]

The Target one (with shelf material to suit) was always a good one and better was the Audiotech (not sure if it's still available). The rega one has doubled in price in recent years (why?) yet for a ton can still be adapted for non Rega decks (upward spikes or nuts-n-balls into a suitable shelf).

I have just ordered the Target VW1:
http://www.targethifi.co.uk/wall_mount_support.html

I'll let you know if it works once I have managed to fit it.

Lawrence

[TCats]

I have just ordered the Target VW1:
http://www.targethifi.co.uk/wall_mount_support.html

I'll let you know if it works once I have managed to fit it.

Lawrence

Hope you have not paid £219

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Target-Turntable-Wall-Mount-Shelf/dp/B008ABQ6RM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1361107743&sr=1-1

[losenotaminute]

Hope you have not paid £219

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Target-Turntable-Wall-Mount-Shelf/dp/B008ABQ6RM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1361107743&sr=1-1

Thanks for the warning. Have emailed Target and asked them to cancel the order or match the price. I think under distance selling regulations I have 7 days to cancel, fingers crossed.

Lawrence

[TCats]

Glad to help was looking for something myself when I noticed it on Amazon, but decided I have spent enough on HiFi. Then I saw your post

[losenotaminute]

A bit of a disaster on the wall shelf front yesterday.

I cancelled the direct order with Target and went for the Amazon supplier. Target said the one on Amazon wasn't the same and couldn't match the price, but it has the same model number and dimensions. It arrived quickly in good condition for less than half the cost of buying direct.

I drilled a hole to start fixing the shelf after having moved all the hifi equipment out of the way (quite a PITA) and thereby found that there's a hug gap behind the plaster board of about 5 inches, for insulation. Presumably this is standard in a modern flat - there must just be one skin of brick.

Went to my local DIY store to see if I could find a fixing method but am not confident that even the largest butterfly style fixings will support the weight. Including the shelf, the total is 15kg, and the shelf only has five fixing holes (although I could try and drill a couple more along the top of the shelf backing plate).

I think the only good solution is to fix some batons or a backing board to the wall and then screw the shelf into that, but I hate DIY. Even having done that the shelf is going to be suspended from plaster board, which is flimsy and won't fully isolate the turntable from vibration.

Has anyone else had experience of fixing a shelf to a plaster-board wall? Should I ask a kitchen fitter for some advice about what load the butterfly fixings can take, there is no help on the B&Q or Wickes website?

Failing a decent solution it looks like my next upgrade is going to be a stone built house.

Lawrence

[TCats]

Sit down have a :cool: all may be not be lost

There is possibly some wood in the wall that the plaster board is fixed to.
Perhaps you could bridge these supports with some battens and fasten the shelf to those with some supports to the floor. Good luck.

[The Grand Wazoo]

There's almost definitely some wood or other solid structure in the wall. Spend some time tapping on it in spots all the way across & sooner or later you'll find where it is.

[losenotaminute]

Sit down have a :cool: all may be not be lost

There is possibly some wood in the wall that the plaster board is fixed to.
Perhaps you could bridge these supports with some battens and fasten the shelf to those with some supports to the floor. Good luck.

I have a bottle - Eden Brewery St Andrews 1882 premium brew - in my hand as advised, it is certainly helping :).

I have tried tapping along the wall but it's very difficult to tell where the supports are. I gather that most kitchen cabinets are hung on plaster board walls using butterfly fixings, and they must take a considerable weight, so it should be possible.

[Macca]

Sit down have a :cool: all may be not be lost

There is possibly some wood in the wall that the plaster board is fixed to.
Perhaps you could bridge these supports with some battens and fasten the shelf to those with some supports to the floor. Good luck.

Pal of mine has a 60 inch plasma mounted to a similar wall - must be 60 kilo in weight - it was a professional install but the above is exactly what they did to make it work. You really don't want a £6K telly falling off the wall in the middle of the night.

[Canetoad]

Most fixtures for plasterboard walls have the maximum loading on the packet. If you have 5 fastening points you only need each fastener to carry 3kg. That's not much. You should be able to get fasteners that are good for 10kg. Job done!

[Audioman]

If you have a traditionally constructed house the outer walls will be solid. So if possible fix a TT shelf to the outer wall. If the outer wall is plasterboard it is a frame construction with normally an outer brick skin. You can buy a joist detector from a DIY store to locate the frame of the stud.

[twotone]

The battens in stud partions are usually set at 450mm centres or 600mm centres.

Personally I would fix some decent ply (18mm) to those on the front of gyproc then screw your TT bracket to that.

I use spit fixings to hang K2 (double panel double convector) rads up to 1400mm long and 600mm high, no idea of the weight but your prob talking about 100kg inc the water in the rad.

You can buy about ten spit fixings for about £2 in B&Q

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPIT-TP12-PLASTERBOARD-FIXINGS-1000-/221193989365?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item3380306cf5&nma=true&si=V%252BFNGFn1A5SO5KuUdUMX%252BVA4iBo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stud+partition&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qjE2UZauPMTK0AWj2oGADQ&sqi=2&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=785

[losenotaminute]

If you have a traditionally constructed house the outer walls will be solid. So if possible fix a TT shelf to the outer wall. If the outer wall is plasterboard it is a frame construction with normally an outer brick skin. You can buy a joist detector from a DIY store to locate the frame of the stud.

Many thanks for the help, much appreciated.

Even if I could drill into the brick, it would mean when I tighten the fixings I'm pulling the plaster board towards the bricks, which doesn't seem very sensible.

I don't want to guess the position of the frames, it's just not worth the risk with a very expensive turntable, even with a gadget to help.

I think my best solution is to get a reliable way to fix the shelf to the plaster board.

Lawrence

[losenotaminute]

The battens in stud partions are usually set at 450mm centres or 600mm centres.

Personally I would fix some decent ply (18mm) to those on the front of gyproc then screw your TT bracket to that.

I use spit fixings to hang K2 (double panel double convector) rads up to 1400mm long and 600mm high, no idea of the weight but your prob talking about 100kg inc the water in the rad.

You can buy about ten spit fixings for about £2 in B&Q

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPIT-TP12-PLASTERBOARD-FIXINGS-1000-/221193989365?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item3380306cf5&nma=true&si=V%252BFNGFn1A5SO5KuUdUMX%252BVA4iBo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=stud+partition&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=qjE2UZauPMTK0AWj2oGADQ&sqi=2&ved=0CD0QsAQ&biw=1600&bih=785

I think the buttefly fixings look like they should be much stronger, but I'll update when I have made some progress.

Lawrence

[twotone]

I think the buttefly fixings look like they should be much stronger, but I'll update when I have made some progress.

Lawrence

Butterfly fixings are p!sh mate, trust me I'm a plumber:eyebrows:

[losenotaminute]

I finally got a professional to sort out the wall shelf, so here are a couple of pics.

The approach taken was to cut out a rectangle of plasterboard and fix a thick piece of wood to the battens behind the wall, and then replace the pasterboard.

Everything feels secure and there is no needle skip when I move around. A definite improvement in sound quality as well, well worth the trouble. The bass is a bit more solid and the tracking seems to have improved as well, now that everything is perfectly level.

I've also freed up a shelf on the rack, so I think I need to fill that with something :scratch:

Thanks to everyone for the advice, especially TCats (Terry) for saving me £100 from the cost of the Target shelf.

Lawrence

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8383/8619169705_b362c9ab53_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8619171769_c71a6fe34c_z.jpg

[Alex_UK]

Great job, Lawrence, your room looks like a nice place to work. :)

[losenotaminute]

Great job, Lawrence, your room looks like a nice place to work. :)

Thanks, speaker placement is not ideal, but it's the best I can do. Next step is to replace the cartridge - I have a Dynavector on order but they've only just come back into stock so it will be next week before I can get that sorted. The LP12 motor is beginning to make a faint noise when it starts (after 30+ years not really a surprise), so that will be next on the list.

Lawrence

[The Grand Wazoo]

Well done, we know you could do it!

[Macca]

Nice job that

[TCats]

Excellent, pleased I could help.
You have a similar layout to myself, so I am now looking for a turntable shelf again, but I do have a outside wall.:lol:

[Yomanze]

Found these on eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROCK-AUDIO-THE-LEVITATION-TURNTABLE-WALL-SHELF-/130994938114

Seems reasonably priced, am currently looking for a turntable shelf myself, any fresh recommendations peeps?