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Puffin
05-01-2013, 18:01
Is there a minimum speed that these should maintain on the public highway? I seem to get stuck behind them and they make up the speed as they go along, or not as the case is normally. Some are well under 30 in a 30 limit and not much more at any other time (i.e in 40, 60 limits)

I accept that their cargo are sensitive, but is it because there are horses on board, or that some of the boxes seem so old as to be only fit for the knackers yard, or something else?

Jonboy
05-01-2013, 18:26
They are usually only taken out half a dozen times a year and one of them is for the compulsory ministry plate where most of them are condemned ( i have that on first hand information from a inspector) saw one broken down this morning which only had 3 of its indicators working as hazard lights to supposedly show that they had broken down and not about to turn right as i first though due to the near side rear not working :steam:

I have quite often had to back up a horse box trailer down our yard when they have got them selves in a right pickle, 90% are driven by women, not much more to add

Ban them i say :lol:

wee tam
05-01-2013, 19:14
i do not think banning them etc is the way to go , and yes i do get frustrated being stuck behind one , thing to remember is , if its going fast , its empty , if its going slow , it has a life on bord , try to imagine being in the back of a transit with nothing to hold on to , and the driver is doing 80 down a country lane , and then imagine how you would fair , no i do not and never have owned a horse

Macca
05-01-2013, 19:28
Is this the new 'Rural' sub-forum?;)

Beechwoods
05-01-2013, 19:38
We need a tractor thread. I'm a big fan of tractors.

Marco
05-01-2013, 19:45
Yeh, tractors are well cool, especially the vintage ones! :)

How cool is this:


http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2024/tractorl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/tractorl.jpg/)


Awesome!!

Marco.

Effem
05-01-2013, 20:35
Most of the horse boxes are driven by young ladies who drive them at weekends and very infrequently at that. One could argue that a horse in the rear should have a jolt-free journey and that drivers of the aforesaid vehicles will drive accordingly but these ladies simply are not used to the dimensions or performance of their vehicles.

Tractors using public roads should be only allowed on them between the hours of 2.00am and 4.00am, or pay immediate cash compo to all the poor sods stuck behind them down narrow winding roads :steam:

Rare Bird
05-01-2013, 20:44
Yeh, tractors are well cool, especially the vintage ones! :)

How cool is this


Awesome!!

Marco.


You need a Ferguson 'T20'

The Grand Wazoo
05-01-2013, 21:09
Nah, forestry tractors are the ones the big boys use -
Vintage Timberjack forestry skidder.......

http://www.publiquip.com/photo/Timberjack-230-Skidder-eh.jpg

Jonboy
05-01-2013, 21:10
You need a Ferguson 'T20'

Still got one complete with plough and various other implements :D

Jonboy
05-01-2013, 21:12
Yeh, tractors are well cool, especially the vintage ones! :)

How cool is this:


http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2024/tractorl.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/tractorl.jpg/)


Awesome!!

Marco.


Thats a T35 Marco the next Model after the T20 or Grey Fergie as they are known

Marco
05-01-2013, 21:17
You need a Ferguson 'T20'

Yeh, those dudes are well bad:


http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/7227/tractor056.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/tractor056.jpg/)

:respect:


Marco.

Jonboy
05-01-2013, 21:34
Yeh, those dudes are well bad:


http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/7227/tractor056.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/tractor056.jpg/)

:respect:


Marco.


That's a straight petrol one mines a 1955 diesel they also came as TVO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil)(tractor vaporizing oil) which is mixed from Petrol and paraffin devised during the war for the petrol rationing .

first drove one when i was 8 or 9 on the hay carting when we had our farm in Wales, i had 5 vintage tractors up until a few years ago, used to go ploughing at the Steam shows,

Sad arnt i :lol:

Beechwoods
05-01-2013, 21:54
Combine? :D

Jonboy
05-01-2013, 22:04
Combine? :D

No never owned or driven one :(, but there is always yet :D

Puffin
06-01-2013, 06:37
i do not think banning them etc is the way to go , and yes i do get frustrated being stuck behind one , thing to remember is , if its going fast , its empty , if its going slow , it has a life on bord , try to imagine being in the back of a transit with nothing to hold on to , and the driver is doing 80 down a country lane , and then imagine how you would fair , no i do not and never have owned a horse

Good post. I would not suggest banning them, but I would have thought that any vehicle should be expected to make progress so as not to inconvenience other road users with an eye to the recommended speed limit for the road.

The rest of this thread seems to have gone off Trac(tor):scratch:

Marco
06-01-2013, 07:45
That's a straight petrol one mines a 1955 diesel they also came as TVO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_vaporising_oil)(tractor vaporizing oil) which is mixed from Petrol and paraffin devised during the war for the petrol rationing .

first drove one when i was 8 or 9 on the hay carting when we had our farm in Wales, i had 5 vintage tractors up until a few years ago, used to go ploughing at the Steam shows,

Sad arnt i :lol:

Lol... Can you 'race-tune' those T20s to go quite fast? I spy a nice big engine in there and not a lot of weight, so it's likely some fun could be had belting down country lanes at 'silly' speeds on one of those bad boys!! :D

Marco.

Jonboy
06-01-2013, 10:07
i do not think banning them etc is the way to go


It was a tongue in cheek remark :doh:


I have been myself at the front of a queue of traffic causing a small tailback whilst happily bouncing down the road at the wheel of a Tractor, JCB and large forklifts but and it is a big but i have always pulled over every so often to let the traffic past to get it moving again, i have had a few close shaves with impatient twats taking risky overtaking maneuvers on bends etc,

If it has road tax and insured its allowed on the road end of,

Horses still have preference on the road over anything else, Fact, when the owners stick them in the back of a box they seem to forget about anyone else as well

Marco
06-01-2013, 11:00
What about my previous post, Jon, regarding tuning-up tractors, for a giggle? :D

Marco.

The Grand Wazoo
06-01-2013, 11:18
In a machine like that, the only form of suspension is a spring under your seat so the potential for speed is directly in proportion to your ability to remain on board..........you lose that ability at about 20 mph!

Haselsh1
06-01-2013, 11:26
I like Field Marshalls meself.

The Grand Wazoo
06-01-2013, 11:36
I expect you would, you're a Lincolnshire lad!
Any machine that you have to start with a shotgun cartridge has got to be a winner, I reckon.

Marco
06-01-2013, 11:50
In a machine like that, the only form of suspension is a spring under your seat so the potential for speed is directly in proportion to your ability to remain on board..........you lose that ability at about 20 mph!

Yes, but you could tweak the suspension, too! :eyebrows:

The idea of a 'souped-up' tractor just appeals to my sense of daftness!!

Marco.

archiesdad
06-01-2013, 14:14
Hand written sign I saw on tailgate of a horsebox once said
"Does my bum look big in this?" :lol::lol::lol:
I laughed for ages but was very careful of what I said to SWMBO that day.

Marco
06-01-2013, 14:50
Ha - lucky my wife is a size 6 and teeny-tiny!! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Tim
06-01-2013, 15:02
Isn't it such a shame that so many of us are in such a hurry to always get somewhere and that we get sooooo pissed off if anyone dares to hold us up.

How great it must be to go somewhere in one of these and not care of jot how long it takes you to get there . . .

http://www.franceskayphoto.co.uk/3014%20%20pony%20and%20trapcrop%20reduced%202.jpg

Minimum speed limits..... :rolleyes:

wee tam
06-01-2013, 16:22
In a machine like that, the only form of suspension is a spring under your seat so the potential for speed is directly in proportion to your ability to remain on board..........you lose that ability at about 20 mph! velcro / trousers / seat , oh and wear a tight belt , don't want you shooting out of them :lol:

Jonboy
06-01-2013, 20:29
What about my previous post, Jon, regarding tuning-up tractors, for a giggle? :D

Marco.

Hers a couple for you Marco

This is first fitted with a small block Chevy, i bet it takes a bit of controlling as they don't steer to well anyway

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The next Ferguson was built by Ford under an agreement between Harry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Ferguson)Ferguson and Henry Ford prior to the Grey Fergies so the Ford flat head V8 is a natural choice for conversion

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A few years ago at a Horticultural type trade show i showed an interest in a new tractor on display that resembled a Massey Ferguson so i proceeded to tell the sales man how i knew all about the original Grey Fergie and how good it was and how his New tractor looked a lot like it, he listened very patiently and let me finish also questioning him on his knowledge of the Grey Fergie, his reply was that did i know of a certain set of Pictures of Harry Ferguson, Nicholas Soames and Winston Churchill sitting watching a Fergie being demonstrated at Chartwell to which i replied yes, he then told me he was the man driving the Fergie and was in Fact Harry's chief demo man, I felt about 2 inches tall :doh:


Picture of the above mentioned

http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp272/jonboy_01/jb-genius-03_resized600X400_zps9cfcd78c.jpg

Marco
06-01-2013, 23:57
Absolutely fantastic, Jon - the sound is awesome... I want one!! :eek:

Be a nice alternative to the Merc! :D

Marco.