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Mike
08-03-2009, 15:03
After my recent fun and games with a failed attempt at buying a Teccy 1210 and a sale of the Denon that also fell through, I've decided to keep it.

So let's see what can be done! :)

Here's where it all started...


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First step, the Hadcock tonearm is not a good match to the deck or cartridge, so it's gone!

Second step, replace it, any decent TT will need an arm of some sort obviously!

I should be back in a couple of hours with the next update. ;)

......................<Time Passes>....................

Beechwoods
08-03-2009, 15:16
You tease! I love the look of the Denon. Can't wait to see the new arm fitted.

I always thought it looked like another one of my favourite toys :lol:

http://homepage.mac.com/beechwoods/AOS/simon.jpg

Mike, you can moderate this as you see fit!

Mike
08-03-2009, 15:19
Mike, you can moderate this as you see fit!

Done! ;)

Mike
08-03-2009, 15:43
For those that don't know, the new arm is a unipivot.

Only thing is... 'pivot' is something of a misnomer.

It's actually a wickedly sharp evil bastard spike thing!!! :steam:


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Oops! :lol:

Beechwoods
08-03-2009, 15:51
They should offer a free tetanus jab with every 'arm :)

Mike
08-03-2009, 15:55
It provides it's own 'jabs'! ;)

I've stopped for some sweet tea and smelling salts.

Mike
08-03-2009, 16:11
Arm base fitted.

Note tungsten carbide spike masquerading as a 'pivot'!


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Can ya tell what it is yet?

pure sound
08-03-2009, 16:21
VPI ? (only from the locking mechanism).

I've never seen one 'undressed' That is a vicious looking spike!

Mike
08-03-2009, 16:43
VPI ? (only from the locking mechanism).

I've never seen one 'undressed' That is a vicious looking spike!

Correct!

VPI JMW-9 Memorial :)

Mike
08-03-2009, 16:45
Here's the AT33-Prestige ready to go...


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And roughly mounted in the headshell...


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Mike
08-03-2009, 16:59
So far, so good... Time to mount the terminal box! :)


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pure sound
08-03-2009, 18:05
looking very nice. I'd like to have a play with one of these bigger Denons at some point. See if & how it differs from the SP10.

Marco
08-03-2009, 18:25
I'm liking it, Mikey! I bet the AT sings like a canary when you get her fired up :)

Marco.

Mike
08-03-2009, 20:20
Hope so!

I got called out again after the last piccy so I've got no further yet. :(

Mike
08-03-2009, 22:53
All fitted and ready for bit of alignment tomfoolery. :)


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Beechwoods
08-03-2009, 22:57
Mike - the new arm looks fantastic, but what's with the Tesco Value Knee High support stockings? Is there something you need to tell us ;)

Mike
08-03-2009, 23:02
SO you recognise them then!

Is there anything YOU want to share with US, eh? ;)

Spectral Morn
08-03-2009, 23:02
Arm base fitted.

Note tungsten carbide spike masquerading as a 'pivot'!


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6390/p3082793.jpg
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Can ya tell what it is yet?

I didn't know VPI recommended a blood sacrifice and blood to be used as lubrication....OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW. Ouch.


Regards D S D L---Neil :)

Beechwoods
08-03-2009, 23:05
SO you recognise them then!

Is there anything YOU want to share with US, eh? ;)

You really should try the 'Finest' range, then you wouldn't feel so embarrassed about it Mike :eyebrows:

Spectral Morn
08-03-2009, 23:05
Mike - the new arm looks fantastic, but what's with the Tesco Value Knee High support stockings? Is there something you need to tell us ;)


Its all part of the set up ritual along with the use of blood and pain...:lolsign:

He also had to wear a bra on his head....and chant.

Mike attends the VPI arm set up class....

http://skolinn.grindavik.is/verkefni/enska/kvikmyndir/weirdscience.jpg



Regards D S D L---Neil :)

Mike
08-03-2009, 23:11
Hmmm... you two are 'strange'! :lol:

Beechwoods
08-03-2009, 23:15
Welcome to our world.

:uhho:

Mike
08-03-2009, 23:19
Bah!.... A problem. I knew this was going too well. :doh:

Notice how the VPI alignment jig doesn't sit flat on the platter thanks to the Denon's 'skirt' thing.


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Time to break out the old 'HFN Test Record' which usefully comes with a protractor jobbie. :eyebrows:

But I'll do that tomorrow, last thing I need is a jiggered cantilever through messing about when I'm getting dozy.

Bed time(ish)... more tomorrow. :goodnight:

Spectral Morn
08-03-2009, 23:19
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:


Strangeeeeeeeeeee...Me ? :mental:



Regards D S D L---Neil :lol:

bong
09-03-2009, 01:00
*backtracking a few posts*

the at33ptg is certainly a thing of beauty ... and sings even better too.

here's mine sitting on the stock tecchie arm ...

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/Gear/IMG_0646.jpg

gotta give it abt 30-40 hrs run in for it to sound its best tho ...

DSJR
09-03-2009, 09:58
How much is the arm please?

I liked those old Denon motor units. The arms that went with them weren't so hot though IIRC.

How's the plinth on yours? Some were quite solid as I remember.

Mike
09-03-2009, 10:29
Hi Dave,

I bought the arm used (it doesn't look it though - 20hrs use) for 495.

The plinth is a fairly substantial chunk of veneered ply, but I'm not too keen on it. Can't say too much more ATM, thats for another chapter of the adventure. ;)

Cheers...

Mike
09-03-2009, 13:08
Almost ready to go! :)


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Time to move it to it's stand and re-check tracking force, azimuth and bias.

Marco
09-03-2009, 15:09
Ooo-er, the tension's killing me! :eyebrows:

Marco.

Mike
09-03-2009, 15:17
Well, you'll have to wait a bit longer.

I haven't got an i/c long enough, so I'm making one thats a bit 'fancy'.
Solid silver in Teflon with a copper braid screen and an outer nylon braid. And fancy plugs. I'd like to say it's a pleasure, but it's not! I'm getting sick of 'threading things'!!! :(

Beechwoods
09-03-2009, 15:33
I think we can add sweat and tears to the blood and cursing shed so far on this project :lol: It sounds like you'll have something to be very proud of at the end of this, even if it's a butt-pain right now :)

John
09-03-2009, 16:16
Really enjoying the pics Mike hope it sounds as good as it looks

Mike
09-03-2009, 17:23
Look simple don't they?

They're not! :steam:

Time, at last, for some listening! :)


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Beechwoods
09-03-2009, 17:25
Freaking fantastic! Can I buy some :)

Mike
09-03-2009, 17:34
<makes sucking through teeth noise>.... No son. You couldn't afford em. ;)

Mike
09-03-2009, 18:51
Game on! :gig:


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Marco
09-03-2009, 20:12
Ooooh.... Is that haven of leather luxury pictured where you lie back and shlip on your Tesco stockings? :lol: :lolsign:

Anyway................ How does the deck sound?

Marco.

Beechwoods
09-03-2009, 20:22
Looks great Mike. Mr Liang looks positively sparkling too. I do hope you haven't been listening to The Final Cut too much. You've already shed enough tears over that TT. Two Suns In The Sunset' is likely to finish you off ;)

Here's hoping it sounds better with the VPI instead of the Hadcock...

Mike
09-03-2009, 20:23
It sounds so much better it's not funny! :)

Everything about this arm is an improvement over the old Haddock. And it doesn't feel like it's been cobbled together out of bits of old Biro and sticky backed plastic! :lol:

I'm soooo glad I didn't get rid of the Denon, and this is just the beginning!

Teccie 1210's will be quaking in fear!!! :eyebrows:

Marco
09-03-2009, 20:32
Nice one, matey. I had a feeling it would sound shweeeeet, as I know how good your phono stage is :)

Bring on the Denon, I say - it's always good to have another top-notch reference! I'm getting fed up of having only one decent T/T to recommend ;)

Marco.

Beechwoods
09-03-2009, 20:33
Oi Mike, you're making me jealous that I didn't bid on the Denon when you had your senior moment a few months back :)

Good to see some fighting talk!

Ammonite Audio
09-03-2009, 20:36
Teccie 1210's will be quaking in fear!!! :eyebrows:

Oooh! It's so tempting to comment on that;)

Spectral Morn
09-03-2009, 20:49
Hi Mike


Looking very nice indeed....You will have to do a full review and place it in Strokes of Genius. Lots of nice photos and how it compares to what you had.


Regards D S D L----Neil :)

Mike
09-03-2009, 20:51
Oooh! It's so tempting to comment on that;)

Be my guest! :)

It's about time those little disco decks were put in their place. :lol:

Beechwoods
09-03-2009, 20:54
These DJ's only need two of them just in case one breaks, Mike :lol:

Marco
09-03-2009, 21:12
Hehehehehe... :eyebrows:

Marco.

Mike
09-03-2009, 21:15
The next stage is already in the planning stage! :eyebrows:

I just need to recoup some cash by selling my other amp and then it's off on a little journey to see, err, 'a man who can'. ;)

Top secret stuff ATM. :ner:

John
09-03-2009, 22:20
Mike the Man of Mystery

Mike
09-03-2009, 22:30
Who is that masked idiot playing records on a flying saucer? :mental:

Marco
09-03-2009, 23:02
Hey, you and Jerry (jandl) could set up a 'flying saucer' Social Group ;)

Marco.

MartinT
10-03-2009, 09:24
Solid silver in Teflon with a copper braid screen and an outer nylon braid

That's not a Homegrown Audio silver cable kit is it? Nice cables, I use one between phono amp and preamp.

Mike
10-03-2009, 12:04
Hi Martin,

No it's not, it's a 'Shian7 Special' made up from what I had to hand. :)

scoobs
10-03-2009, 17:58
Hey, you and Jerry (jandl) could set up a 'flying saucer' Social Group ;)

Beam me up shaggy!

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee15/indypepa/ufo.jpg

:gig:

Mike
10-03-2009, 20:03
LOL... Very good, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Dalek making an appearance too! :lol:

The more I listen to the deck with the JMW fitted the more I'm liking it, it's a cracking arm! :)

Cheers...

Marco
12-03-2009, 19:26
Indeed it is. So has your T/T 'turned the corner' now or still not quite hitting the spot like you want? :)

Perhaps a new plinth will be needed for things to really cook with gas :gig:

Marco.

Mike
12-03-2009, 21:59
Things are definitely looking up.

New plinth will be 'stage 3'... got to do 'stage 2 & 2.5' first though! ;)

Ali Tait
13-03-2009, 09:58
Get it on some slate!

Mike
13-03-2009, 10:07
Get it on some slate!

All in good time! ;)

Darrenw
14-03-2009, 19:56
Hi Mike

I have a similar ufo TT from denon and am looking to construct a plinth - just wondering what your plans were - slate seems dear but looks nice and comes recommended from the SP10 boys - looking at ply myself with a bit of roofing lead thrown in for weight

If you are going quicker than me I would be interested in your plinth as currently without working TT until I get something built


rgds
darren

scoobs
15-03-2009, 21:18
I am currently waiting for a slate company to get back to me with a price for my commissioned plinth, I was originally going to do a double layer plinth, but have since decided to get a single, monster 100mm deep slab (tombstone stylee), it looks like it will have to be cut with a water jet, so this will bump the price up a bit, but fingers crossed.

John
15-03-2009, 21:31
That is going to be one heavy monster of a plinth but should sound great

Darrenw
16-03-2009, 23:39
I am currently waiting for a slate company to get back to me with a price for my commissioned plinth, I was originally going to do a double layer plinth, but have since decided to get a single, monster 100mm deep slab (tombstone stylee), it looks like it will have to be cut with a water jet, so this will bump the price up a bit, but fingers crossed.

would be interested in the price - 100mm is my plan too wide enough for 12" arm

rgds
darren

Will
17-03-2009, 00:23
A pic of my Garrard Slate Plinth with 12" arm, find a local marble-slate cutter.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j317/willcowen/100_0431.jpg

Spectral Morn
17-03-2009, 00:50
Hi Will

I don't recognize the arm...what is it ? Nice looking TT by the way.


Regards D S D L----Neil :)

Will
17-03-2009, 11:05
Neil
its a very basic DIY Schroeder with a Ebony wand..

Ali Tait
17-03-2009, 11:18
...and it sounds fantastic. :)

Marco
17-03-2009, 12:09
Agreed! I'd say it's about the best Garrard I've heard :fingers:

:gig:

Marco.

Spectral Morn
17-03-2009, 12:42
Neil
its a very basic DIY Schroeder with a Ebony wand..

Hi Will

Thanks for the reply..Looks very nice indeed, on your TT. I have never heard one, either your deck or your arm.

Ah, I have heard of them....I think they are German. http://www.schroeder-tonarme.de/ Very basic website....and yes they are German.

What sort of mounting do they need, their own, or a known one ?




Regards D S D L----neil :)

Will
18-03-2009, 23:41
There are no fixings to the plinth it sits on its own mini plinth, its amazing for no money well maybe 40 max.

Ali Tait
19-03-2009, 17:17
It would be amazing for 10 times that Will..

Mike
19-03-2009, 17:25
I've fancied one of those DIY Schroeder jobbies for ages, seen some really nice ones. Maybe one for later on. :)

Marco
23-03-2009, 10:56
I was having a look around for some bits and came across this:

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/30-10/C07-29773-88592-00/

Is it any different to what you've got? It looks rather nice though, will be a drop-in fit for your DP-3000, and it's only (approx) 91! Of course you'll need to import it, but even allowing for those costs it should still work out quite reasonable :)

Here are some others, but I'm not sure if they'll all fit:

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/10-10/C07-34298-11809-00/

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/10-10/C08-38694-23851-00/

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/20-10/C07-34096-10676-00/

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/40-10/C05-24697-61214-00/

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/60-10/C05-22600-48921-00/

http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWdenon/G0601/E/60-10/C04-20146-41050-00/

Just thought you might be interested, matey :smoking:

Marco.

Mike
23-03-2009, 11:37
Hi Marco,

That first one is EXACTLY what it's mounted in right now. :)
It's one of the better Denon plinths apparently but there are 'things that can be done' to improve it further, this will be 'Stage 2.5' which I'll be doing while the motor unit is away for 'Stage 2'. ;)

I've literally just got off the phone arranging stage 2, and this weekend I'll be pulling the deck apart and boxing up the motor unit ready for it's little trip to cider country.

Marco
23-03-2009, 13:18
Chez-Mr Cawley, per chance? ;)

No worries - it was just on the off chance that any of the plinths there were desirable. It also looks like the plinth you've got perhaps isn't as bad as you first thought :)

Marco.

Mike
23-03-2009, 13:25
Chez-Mr Cawley, per chance? ;)

Nope!... :eyebrows:

Marco
23-03-2009, 13:40
No worries, dude. Good luck with it anyway :)

I'm off there tomorrow to get some 'bits' for the Techy :smoking:

Marco.

Mike
23-04-2009, 13:02
Here's some pictures of my DP-3000's giblets getting a seeing to at Vantage Audio...

http://vantageaudio.com/info/KL60.htm

Darrenw
23-04-2009, 17:27
is Richard waxing its ears? lots of cotton buds in action in those snaps

I am going down there next week hopefully to meet richard so might see your TT in the flesh I guess -- Picked up a garrard 301 today that I am going to ask him to repaint and restore for me (assuming he does garrard which I think he does)

What exactly is being done to the motor?

rgds
darren

Mike
23-04-2009, 18:56
What exactly is being done to the motor?

Just a general clean and service as far as the motor is concerned. I think! :scratch:

It's also having 'a bit of a tweak' to the power supply while it's there! ;)

Mike
09-05-2009, 10:29
Hmmm.... the Denon is still not back from Vantage <taps foot impatiently> and I'm getting bored with CD's.

AND I really, really want to hear what the ere Audio Analogue Maestro amp is like with vinyl! :(

Spectral Morn
09-05-2009, 10:46
Hmmm.... the Denon is still not back from Vantage <taps foot impatiently> and I'm getting bored with CD's.

AND I really, really want to hear what the ere Audio Analogue Maestro amp is like with vinyl! :(


Whats it like with CD ? I quite like Audio analogue but never got round to hearing the Maestro integrated. I have heard the pre-powers I wont embarrass my self by trying to spell the names....

Maybe a wee review/write up for SOG....would be nice when you are a bit further along in listening....;)


Regards D S D L

Mike
09-05-2009, 10:50
In short... it's bloody powerfull!

Watch out for a thread called 'Whats that Smell?'! :lolsign:

Darrenw
22-05-2009, 16:24
has it come home yet? my UFO is down there too having a sunbathe in the taunton air as well.

should be collecting it in june when I am down there with work

rgds
darren

Mike
22-05-2009, 17:52
Hi Darren,

Not yet I'm afraid, the bearing seems to be giving Richard a bit of a headache... We both agree it's better to have it 'right' rather than rush the job, so I don't mind. :)

Cheers...

Mike
03-07-2009, 15:15
Well, it's obviously been on something of an epic holiday... But it's back! :)

Naturally it's arrived home just as the Martin Logan crossovers are in a gazillion pieces all over my desk. :doh:

I'd best get me finga oot!

alfie2902
09-12-2009, 22:08
Mike,

This thread is due an update!

How did it work out? How's it sounding?

Mike
09-12-2009, 23:53
It's sounding pretty damn good!

I'm rather happy with the AT ART-1 cartridge it's wearing now too! :)

I won't start banging on about it though, it'll only get the 1210 brigade going. :rolleyes:

Mike
09-12-2009, 23:57
One of 'em will be along any minute..... ;)

Marco
09-12-2009, 23:57
Haha... Here we are! :lolsign:

Glad it's worked out for ya, Mikey :)

It's coming to Scalford, isn't it? We can have a 'D/D shootout' there and wee all over the elastic-band brigade :gig:

Marco.

Mike
09-12-2009, 23:58
ooh, there we go! :lol:

Mike
10-12-2009, 00:00
It's coming to Scalford, isn't it? We can have a 'D/D shootout' there :gig:

Dat be da plan! ;)

Marco
10-12-2009, 00:05
Cool. I look forward to presenting you with your consolation prize :lol:

:king:

;)

Marco.