Getting closer to that "Live in concert " sound!

[icehockeyboy]

Many people are aiming to reproduce that sound mentioned above, so with that in mind, why bother buying posh looking waf type, not to mention expensive Hifi speakers, when we could be using PA speakers from
Peavey, Marshall and Orange! :)

[John]

Well my drivers originate from Emimence

[stupinder]

Used to have a pa in the sitting room many years ago.
I actually think for the majority of genres, the "live" sound is never going to happen as most music just isn't recorded in a "Live" setting.

15 inch drivers in the bass cabs, 2 x 12" in the mids and then a tweeter box. I imagine it sounded awful but I loved it at the time. I also imagine the neighbours didn't. When I opened the record shop I moved the PA in there and built it into the counter.

[Puffin]

My speakers are Jamo 400 professional. Will take 400 lovely watts all day long. 15" bass, midrange horn.......need I say more.

[icehockeyboy]

Well my drivers originate from Emimence
Yeah I like him.......he's a great rapper! :mex::mex:

[chelsea]

I'd go for the sound you like rather than trying to replicate live music.

[icehockeyboy]

Guys, it was just a tongue in cheek thing, so please don't take It too seriously..
:)

[Yomanze]

I think it's more about the record than what you're playing it back with, which is why live albums are great in this regard.

Studio and live albums are entirely different with the live albums having that concert feel. After seeing this thread I put The Cure's "Paris" on and it's sounding great. Too many studios butcher artists, at the same time many seem to get it right, but it's certainly not 'live' sounding.

[icehockeyboy]

What made me write the post was I was just scanning through Spotify and just typed in Live to see what was there, and I found some brilliant stuff that sounded awesome through my newly acquired Ushers!

[DSJR]

I do appreciate what you're trying to do, but don't forget the metres and metres of iffy mic cables the signal passes through, mics that are not always "flat" and chosen to distort the instrument in a nice way, the mixing desks with hundreds of IC's, pots and switches - and that's without the outboard processing, compressors and limiters in your average studio - oh alright, I suspect it's all DAW plugins now, but loads is still done on the analogue domain I believe. All this before the mastering engineer comes along to further anaesthetise dynamics to fit the medium and final listener experience...

Eventually, one gives up on the holy grail of audio and enjoys what they have within the size and cost constraints imposed by daily living...

[The Black Adder]

I do appreciate what you're trying to do, but don't forget the metres and metres of iffy mic cables the signal passes through, mics that are not always "flat" and chosen to distort the instrument in a nice way, the mixing desks with hundreds of IC's, pots and switches - and that's without the outboard processing, compressors and limiters in your average studio - oh alright, I suspect it's all DAW plugins now, but loads is still done on the analogue domain I believe. All this before the mastering engineer comes along to further anaesthetise dynamics to fit the medium and final listener experience...

Eventually, one gives up on the holy grail of audio and enjoys what they have within the size and cost constraints imposed by daily living...

Yeah.. you need to get a few wasted girls knocking about too, some puke next to the bass stacks and purge your ears with feedback for at least an hour before you know your actually 'there'... And last but not least have a barney with the front man about him getting rid of the drummer even though he's too gutless to say anything to his face....

[icehockeyboy]

Yeah.. you need to get a few wasted girls knocking about too, some puke next to the bass stacks and purge your ears with feedback for at least an hour before you know your actually 'there'... And last but not least have a barney with the front man about him getting rid of the drummer even though he's too gutless to say anything to his face....

Love it! :guitar::surf::band:

[tannoyman]

All this before the mastering engineer comes along to further anaesthetise dynamics to fit the medium and final listener experience...

Eventually, one gives up on the holy grail of audio and enjoys what they have within the size and cost constraints imposed by daily living...[/QUOTE]


Hi David

Your comments remind me of an article which I think appeared in Hi Fi Critic a year or two ago. In it Tony Faulkner the classical recording engineer was asked why many early digital recordings sounded so much better than modern recordings. His answer was that in the early 80's editing of digital tapes was a very difficult and time consuming manual business involving the use of two very heavy and expensive boxes which took two men to lift and cost more than £100,000. Because it was very onerous to do it was often not done leaving the tapes close to their original state following the recording session. Now £150 buys the best editing software on the planet. It is also very easy and quick to do and because they can they do. They try to take all the blemishes from a performance to leave a 'perfect recording of a perfect performance'.

The trouble is the perfect recording contains none of the unavoidable artifacts of a real performance such as bum notes, extranious noises and as a result it sounds, sterile, lifeless and boring. I have to say that I think he has a point.

The moral of the story is that the post production processing should be as light and minimal as it is possible for it to be to achieve really good convincing results

David :(

[Macca]

it's been my experience that a lot of artists are obsessed with tiny mistakes and errors that the average listener would never notice. Consequently they use a lot of overdubs and splices and so on all of which degrades the sound and makes it less 'fresh'. You only have to listen to Led Zep II to realise that digital recording technology has improved absolutely nothing SQ wise although it has made life easier and cheaper as far as laying down a recording goes.