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JazzBones
06-12-2012, 15:38
I have one that I bought a long time ago from Mike Harris of Moth but I haven't used it alot recently because its so extremely noisy, someone on PFM has measured the noise output at 100 dB, and some have said they use ear protectors when using this beastie!!!! Now my question is there any effective way of making the Moth quieter during the vacuming suck up the grunge cycle, do I just live with it? In a way I now regret having bought the machine but it was at a time before newer rival RCMs were on the market. Keith Months and Loricrafts are out of the question.

Is there anyone on here who has re-cased, dampened, substituted anti-vibrational feet etc, etc., to make their Moth more accetable... I don't want to loose my hearing!

:help:

hifi_dave
06-12-2012, 17:59
I've used one for close on thirty years and not been troubled by the noise. Obviously it's loud but you don't use it whilst playing your Hi-Fi. It's a bit like (much like) saying your vacuum cleaner is noisy..:scratch:

vandergraafuk
06-12-2012, 19:48
Agreed it really is a noisy bugger.

prestonchipfryer
06-12-2012, 19:49
I use a Moth RCM and yes it is quite loud: so the use of ear defenders is what I use. 20db attenuation, available from most builders merchants for around £5-6.

daytona600
06-12-2012, 20:51
i made my moth very quiet , by flogging it on ebay
i could not stand wearing headphones while cleaning some vinyl. VPI are a bit less noisy

Audioman
06-12-2012, 21:42
The Okki Nokki is less noisy - at least you don't need ear defenders.

Audio Al
06-12-2012, 22:09
The Okki Nokki is less noisy - at least you don't need ear defenders.


Yep , I agree :)

MCRU
06-12-2012, 22:49
The Okki Nokki is less noisy - at least you don't need ear defenders.

agreed (when you can get hold of one that is) never many in stock

sell the moth, get a nokki, simples!

walpurgis
07-12-2012, 00:19
Has anybody built their own RCM? It can't be that hard to do, surely?

Not felt the need myself, but I bet I could come up with something that works.

The Grand Wazoo
07-12-2012, 00:24
There have been one (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2498&highlight=record+cleaning+machine) or two (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13269&highlight=record+cleaning+machine) attempts.
.....and if you buy Alex a few pints he might tell you the legend of the 'Day of the Dishwasher'


http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu259/Alex_Steel1969/hifi/IMG_3272a.jpg?t=1281279584

JazzBones
07-12-2012, 11:30
There have been one (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2498&highlight=record+cleaning+machine) or two (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13269&highlight=record+cleaning+machine) attempts.
.....and if you buy Alex a few pints he might tell you the legend of the 'Day of the Dishwasher'


http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu259/Alex_Steel1969/hifi/IMG_3272a.jpg?t=1281279584

Chris, you really must encourage Alex to check his stylus, VTA and SRA as its playing hell with his vinyl! :eek:

JazzBones
07-12-2012, 11:50
Thanks for the input and advice fellas, much appreciated. HiFiDave, your domestic vacuum cleaners must be very, very noisy - dig up your money pot from the bottom of the garden and buy a new one :rolleyes:

I'm going to look at case damping, maybe even re-working the casing itself, and anti-vibrational industrial feet, at the mo they are just four hard rubber stick on domes affixed at each corner by Moth themselves. This must be a contributory factor adding vibration noise?

I'm interested in the 'steam cleaning and vac' method I've seen on YouTube and done sensibly and with care looks to be the best method to get the gunk out of the grooves?

Alex_UK
07-12-2012, 14:32
:lol: I never did get round to trying the Steam Cleaner... Tried pretty much everything else!

Executive Summary: If you want to clean records, get a RCM - noisy or not, there is no cheapskate option!