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Covenant
27-11-2012, 21:49
Many people spend hours altering their speaker positions but never think about moving them off the vertical axis so that the tweeters are firing at your ears. It's worth trying with a book or something first before making any permanent alteration.

wee tam
27-11-2012, 21:59
yep them there big bad boys were originally designed for big american houses , and the listening position was yards away , they are on stands now (blooming big buggers) and the tweeter is at ear level with the super tweeter firing above head level , used one of those adjustable computer chairs , and raised and lowered my position before arriving at an optimum , had to use some ply with a rubber sandwich to acheive optimum hight , good call by the way , made a world of difference imho

icehockeyboy
28-11-2012, 12:16
I'd have to sit in a high chair to get my lug holes in line with the tweeters on my Ushers!

Covenant
28-11-2012, 12:50
I'd have to sit in a high chair to get my lug holes in line with the tweeters on my Ushers!

Perhaps they should be angled downwards? :)

Puffin
28-11-2012, 16:36
Yep, done that meself

icehockeyboy
04-12-2012, 18:30
Perhaps they should be angled downwards? :)

I'll get Usher to redesign the sloping backwards design, stick a house brick under the rear of the cast iron plinth and that should do it! :lol:

isuckedmandelsonslemons
04-12-2012, 19:04
I'll get Usher to redesign the sloping backwards design, stick a house brick under the rear of the cast iron plinth and that should do it! :lol:

No, what you need are BE10s or BE20s. Both have an acute slope on the top aiming towards the listener to give the impression of the tweeters firing down.

DaveK
04-12-2012, 19:08
Not arguing with anybody's theory or findings in practice but I struggle with this concept of the tweeters (and super tweeters) having to be at ear height and/or pointing directly at the ears. At no live music venue or performance that I've ever been to does the high frequency music get directly aimed at you - it comes at you from all levels and directions.
I can't say that getting my ears and the tweeters directly lined up with each other has made any difference that I can detect. On the other hand I did prefer the SQ I got when adding ribbon super tweeters to my set up - I can't say why, it just sounded better, irrespective of the speaker 'direction' as long as they were pointing forward.
So am I effectively deaf?? :scratch: :lol:
Dave.

Covenant
04-12-2012, 19:34
No speaker designer can know the domestic situation that his speakers will end up in. In my case I am sitting in an office chair with the speakers on small Atacama stands so the tweeters are way below my lug 'oles.
I have stuck some felt around the tweeters so there is less diffraction. Seems sensible to direct as much information as possible in the right direction, so thats why I tried angling them.

isuckedmandelsonslemons
04-12-2012, 19:40
And I'm just sitting here thinking this sounds incredible and not giving a flying fuck which way the tweeters are pointing.
Indeed, if they weren't so big I wouldn't even know the speakers were there as they just vanish into an incredible soundstage. I must be doing something wrong ;-)

Puffin
04-12-2012, 19:51
How do you know you're not dreaming?

Ashmore
04-12-2012, 22:28
How do you know you're not dreaming?

Can he prove he exists at all? ;)

icehockeyboy
05-12-2012, 10:49
And I'm just sitting here thinking this sounds incredible and not giving a flying fuck which way the tweeters are pointing.
Indeed, if they weren't so big I wouldn't even know the speakers were there as they just vanish into an incredible soundstage. I must be doing something wrong ;-)
:lol: