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Rare Bird
25-11-2012, 15:04
Anyone been lucky enough to hear these 200grm issues that run at 45rpm? i bet they sound superb
chris@panteg
25-11-2012, 15:09
Anyone been lucky enough to hear these 200grm issues that run at 45rpm? i bet they sound superb
I didn't know about these Andre , I bought all the 33rpm remasters about three years ago , an essential band for me :)
Tell all the people !
News to me! Been looking for the first album on vinyl for a while, I don't want the mono verison though. Have you got a link Andre?
chris@panteg
25-11-2012, 15:16
Here is a link to the video of the remastering process ,worth a watch .
http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/83211
Technics SP10 mk2 used for quality control , naturally .
Audio Al
25-11-2012, 19:25
Nice link Chris
I enjoyed watching :)
I recognise the tonearm used but can't remember what it is. Shure Era V something or other fitted though. Were those small Tannoys used in the cutting room?
I recognise the tonearm used but can't remember what it is. Shure Era V something or other fitted though. Were those small Tannoys used in the cutting room?
The arm looks like a Denon. The speakers might be Urei's.
Far too much fuss made of the packaging. Mine are American imports on thick vinyl. I see no reason to change them; certainly not for $400!
Nice to see an end-user enjoying 'Strange Days' on Quad ESLs. :)
Audio Al
25-11-2012, 19:55
Nice to see an end-user enjoying 'Strange Days' on Quad ESLs.
Agreed
I hope to one day :D after my amp rebuilds ;)
chris@panteg
25-11-2012, 20:08
What turntable was it though ? Looked like a Simon York ?
chris@panteg
25-11-2012, 20:12
Nice link Chris
I enjoyed watching :)
You are most welcome , I enjoyed it too .
Rare Bird
25-11-2012, 20:46
What turntable was it though ? Looked like a Simon York ?
The monitors in the cutting suite are Tannoy 'Super Gold Monitors'.
The arm on that Techy is a Syntec 'S220'
The flashy deck looks like a Kuzma
chris@panteg
25-11-2012, 20:52
The monitors in the cutting suite are Tannoy 'Super Gold Monitors'.
The arm on that Techy is a Syntec 'S220'
The flashy deck looks like a Kuzma
You know your stuff Andre .
Audioman
26-11-2012, 15:23
Got all six individual titles as they came out. Box set costs a lot more. These titles are great sounding and highly recommended - even better than the DCC titles and much better than the Rhino 33rpm issues. Must have for any Doors fan.
daytona600
16-03-2013, 18:33
doors infinite 45rpm box set £ 270 very limited edition
single 45rpm albums are £ 45 each
not played them yet , but bet the are superb , box set will be worth a bomb one day
have the Sacd versions as well
doors infinite 45rpm box set £ 270 very limited edition
Hi Scott,
Do you have the above for sale, as brand new (unopened)? :)
Btw, chaps, have you read this (1997 interview in The Tracking Angle with Doors producer/engineer Bruce Botnick): http://www.analogplanet.com/content/doors-and-elektra-records-sound-part-i-0
Most interesting!
Marco.
Rare Bird
18-03-2013, 11:02
Does that box set include both the Mono & Stereo version of the debut LP?
Audioman
18-03-2013, 12:20
Does that box set include both the Mono & Stereo version of the debut LP?
The earlier Rhino box of 33 rpm lps (processed using high res digital) includes the Mono 'The Doors'. Frankly the SQ of the Mono is nothing to get excited about. The new AP 45 rpm issues are far superior and all analogue - even better than the DCC issues from late 90s. Cheaper to buy individually than pay £100 extra for the box.
Rare Bird
18-03-2013, 13:36
Yeh i was wondering if they offered up the Mono the same as the Rhino's. tbh although i bet those 45rpm albums sound great im more than happy with the 33rpm Rhino editions, as long as they sound good enough to my ears, in which they do i have no desire to change.
Thing Fish
18-03-2013, 13:38
although i bet those 45rpm albums sound great im more than happy with the 33rpm Rhino editions, as long as they sound good enough to my ears, in which they do i have no desire to change.
+1
daytona600
20-03-2013, 16:56
Hi Scott,
Do you have the above for sale, as brand new (unopened)? :)
Most interesting!
Marco.
Marco ALL vinyl is brand new & unplayed , sealed , NO used or 2nd hand
all the doors 45rpm 200g in stock , box set & single albums + box only
will have my online shop for vinyl up & running very soon
big job uploading all the stock at present
nb - if not on my lists , can source new vinyl , or if required have 10.000 from my own collection if used ones are required - will clean them on a RCM first
Nice one. You have a PM, Scott! :)
Marco.
daytona600
21-03-2013, 02:07
cheers marco
Job's a good 'un. Cheers, Scott.
Just bagged myself one of the Doors 45rpm box sets, chaps, which I'll be picking up from Scott, when I'm up in Scotland over Easter! :yay:
Marco.
I've just received The Doors (first album) on SACD. Will report on its sound quality tonight.
Nice one, Martin. We can compare the vinyl vs. SACD versions next time I come down - that should be very interesting! :)
Marco.
The SACD seems to relay everything that was on the 1967 recording. Different songs sound different; for instance, Break on Through gets a little busy and you can hear the tape limitations; Soul Kitchen sets up a really excellent groove with the bass coming through nicely; The End lays everything bare so that you can hear right into the song and pinpoint the stage acoustic. It's a shame that the vocal is a little recessed but that was the way in those days, compared with up front and in your face vocals these days. The SACD is light years ahead of the original CD releases.
Based on this, I'm going to order the LA Woman SACD from Scott :)
Rare Bird
21-03-2013, 19:00
I love the Doors (with exception to 'Full Circle' & 'Other Voices')
The SACD seems to relay everything that was on the 1967 recording. Different songs sound different; for instance, Break on Through gets a little busy and you can hear the tape limitations; Soul Kitchen sets up a really excellent groove with the bass coming through nicely; The End lays everything bare so that you can hear right into the song and pinpoint the stage acoustic. It's a shame that the vocal is a little recessed but that was the way in those days, compared with up front and in your face vocals these days. The SACD is light years ahead of the original CD releases.
Can you tell, Martin, if they speed-correct 'Light My Fire' for this release?
I'm very tempted by the vinyl box-set...
Hmm, I don't really have a reference, Tom. Do we know of a version (e.g. Spotify) that runs at the correct speed?
Can't find it on Spotify alas, but here it is on YT.
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It was discovered prior to 40th anniversary mixes - which on the whole I deeply dislike, as they added a bunch of stuff, which is supposedly more faithful to band's original intentions, but in any case didn't sound right to me - that 'Light My Fire' had been transferred at a speed 3.5% slower than it should have been, so all editions of it up to that point had been slightly slow, and slightly off key.
--edit--
Reading the YT blurb, I see that not all previous editions were effected - the original 45s ran at the correct speed apparently.
Light My Fire on the SACD sounds flat to my ear, compared with the YouTube clip. Provided my PC's clock is reasonably accurate, that would suggest that the SACD is not speed corrected. It would be good to have another opinion, though.
Saying that, it doesn't do this song any harm as it sounds a little more 'minor key' this way.
One way to verify would be to look at the track time - on the non speed corrected version it's 7.08, whereas it's 6.59 if speed corrected.
It certainly wouldn't put me off getting the new version in any case.
Hmm, the SACD says 6:50 in the notes but it actually runs to 7:10. Sounds like case proved!
It was discovered prior to 40th anniversary mixes - which on the whole I deeply dislike, as they added a bunch of stuff, which is supposedly more faithful to band's original intentions, but in any case didn't sound right to me
Hi Tom,
Could you expand on what you didn't think sounded right, and on which tracks and albums you're referring to? Also, is the 40th anniversary mixes the same material as contained in the latest 45RPM vinyl remasters, or something different? :)
Marco.
Hmm, the SACD says 6:50 in the notes but it actually runs to 7:10. Sounds like case proved!
Is this anything to worry about with the 45RPM vinyl remasters or merely a digital thing?
Marco.
Ah ha! Good sleuthing ;)
Well, it's no big deal anyway - I'm so used to the standard version. Odd that there's that discrepancy in the notes, just in view how meticulous the production process seems to have been :scratch:
Hi Tom,
Could you expand on what you didn't think sounded right, and on which tracks and albums you're referring to? Also, is the 40th anniversary mixes the same material as contained in the latest 45RPM vinyl remasters, or something different? :)
Marco.
It's been a while since I listened to them (they were released in 2006) - it was the 'Perception' box-set, so each of the original six albums (I think they did individual releases as well). I picked up the set, listened to them all once, and not again since! I have them kicking around still though, so could revisit. But one thing I clearly recall is that, in many of the tracks, they'd added various little bits of detail - a little layer of instrumentation here, and a backing vocal there, maybe an extended outro, that sort of thing, even some studio chatter between tracks I think. I personally found it really jarring, as I was/am so familiar with the original Rothchild edits. I seem to recall reading that the additions were more in line with what the band originally wanted, but that may have just been marketing BS.
But the new edition seems to be remasters of the original edits - if the 'Light My Fire' timing is anything to go by anyway.
It does suggest that the 45rpms will also not have the time-corrected 'Light My Fire', but if you haven't heard the 40th Anniversary edition you might not really notice, and in any case you could correct it at the pitch slider on the 1210 - that's what I'll be doing :D
daytona600
21-03-2013, 23:59
Is this anything to worry about with the 45RPM vinyl remasters or merely a digital thing?
Marco.
as far as i know Marco these are 100% analogue affairs
If you listen to all the Doors albums, no attempt was made to create sounds that weren't generated by the Doors, except for the Moog Synthesizer on Strange Days, although that was played live in the mix by Jim, but that's another story. The equipment used was very basic, mostly tube consoles and microphones. Telefunken U47, Sony C37A, Shure 56. The echo used was from real acoustic echo chambers and EMT plate reverb units. In those days, we didn't have plug-ins or anything beyond an analogue 8-track machine. All the studios that we used, except for Elektra West, had three Altec Lansing 604E loudspeakers, as that was the standard in the industry, 3-track. On EKS-74007, The Doors, we used 4-track Ampex recorders and on the subsequent albums, 3M 56 8-tracks. Dolby noise reduction units were used on two albums, Waiting For The Sun and The Soft Parade. Everything was analogue, digital was just a word. We didn't use fuzz tone or other units like that but created the sounds organically, i.e. the massive dual guitar solo on "When The Music's Over," which was created by feeding the output of one microphone preamp into another and adjusting the level to create the distortion. The tubes were glowing and lit up the control room.
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"When mastering for the 45-RPM vinyl release, we were successfully able to bake the original master tapes and play them to cut the lacquer masters."
- Bruce Botnick, July 2012
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also looking forward to amused to death 200g versions in october
on vinyl & sacd
If you listen to all the Doors albums, no attempt was made to create sounds that weren't generated by the Doors, except for the Moog Synthesizer on Strange Days, although that was played live in the mix by Jim, but that's another story. The equipment used was very basic, mostly tube consoles and microphones. Telefunken U47, Sony C37A, Shure 56. The echo used was from real acoustic echo chambers and EMT plate reverb units. In those days, we didn't have plug-ins or anything beyond an analogue 8-track machine. All the studios that we used, except for Elektra West, had three Altec Lansing 604E loudspeakers, as that was the standard in the industry, 3-track. On EKS-74007, The Doors, we used 4-track Ampex recorders and on the subsequent albums, 3M 56 8-tracks. Dolby noise reduction units were used on two albums, Waiting For The Sun and The Soft Parade. Everything was analogue, digital was just a word. We didn't use fuzz tone or other units like that but created the sounds organically, i.e. the massive dual guitar solo on "When The Music's Over," which was created by feeding the output of one microphone preamp into another and adjusting the level to create the distortion. The tubes were glowing and lit up the control room.
WOW - bloody hell, that reads like sheer audio porn! :eyebrows:
I'm more excited than ever now to get hold of my box set!!! :exactly:
Marco.
daytona600
22-03-2013, 12:28
WOW - bloody hell, that reads like sheer audio porn.
I'm more excited than ever now to get hold of my box set!!!
more audio porn for you marco - tannoy monitors & technics DD on the cutting lathe
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All this fuss over the timing of 'Light My Fire' is confusing and perhaps irrelevant.
On my copy of the Digitally Remastered CD (Elektra 7559-74007-2), the track timing is quoted as 6:50 on the rear of the jewel case; as 6:50 on the rear of the insert booklet (which is a direct copy of the album sleeve rear artwork); as 6:30 on the disc itself, and according to the timer on my player 7:03.
Does any of this really matter? The difference between 7:03 and 6:50 is 3.17%, which is half a semitone. The difference between 7:08 and 6:59 is 2.15%, or a third of a semitone. You guys must have perfect pitch!
'Light My Fire' sounds just fine to me - and fast enough. I can't be bothered to time the track on my vinyl copy (1967). :rolleyes:
Rare Bird
23-03-2013, 07:23
Thats right Barry who cares, i certainly don't
Playing both, I can hear the difference. However, as I said, it doesn't matter and played in isolation you would never know.
I didn't mean to suggest that I believe it to be a matter of tremendous importance - I was just interested to establish if it's something that had been corrected for this new edition, in part to rule out that the more recent edits of the tracks had been used (as that would put me off buying it).
That said, now that I'm familiar with how it should sound, the fact that there's a small timing error is very obvious to me. Perhaps this goes back to my mixing background, as I've trained myself to be sensitive to the little differences made by small adjustments in tempo/pitch. The time-corrected version sounds more natural to me, and it sounds more akin to the way it sounded when they played the song live. So it's certainly preferable to me at that speed. I'm not interested in legislating for anyone else though, just curious :)
Audioman
23-03-2013, 11:52
In case anybody is in doubt the recent Analog Productions Doors titles are the original mixes from the original analogue tapes. Exception being 'The Doors' which is from a first generation copy. The original tape became unusable in the 1990s.
Chad Kassem owner and founder Music Direct and AP is a perfectionist. Hence set up Quality Record Productions to press his titles and has invested a small fortune in vinyl production.
Ooh, can't wait for my L. A. Woman then!
Indeed, Paul. It's the sheer striving for perfection, not just in terms of sound quality, but in terms of the attention to detail of the whole package, which attracted me to buy the new box set, quite aside from the fact that I like the music. I just LOVE owning items that are of the finest quality!
After all, it's only right, as I've spent a small fortune on assembling a top-notch hi-fi system, that I should invest in the best recordings to play on it, not only to hear what my system is capable of, sonically, but also my favourite music in all its glory! :exactly:
I simply don't understand why those who wouldn't think twice of spending £500 on a mains lead, baulk at spending a few hundred quid on some high-quality vinyl.... :scratch:
I suspect that they're more into hi-fi than music. For me, it's about having the best of BOTH worlds!!
Marco.
Rare Bird
23-03-2013, 13:05
Well we know this, im convinced some just sit & look at the stereo admiring the Aesthetics! :mental: Out of the many modern systems ive heard this might not be a bad idea after all :rfl:
Fook that for a game of soldiers id rather have a pile of shite (decent mindst) & a nice recurd collection..
:D
Yup - if I had to choose between one or the other, having a top-notch record collection would come WAY, WAY before having a top-notch hi-fi system :)
Fortunately, I don't need to choose!
Marco.
I didn't mean to suggest that I believe it to be a matter of tremendous importance - I was just interested to establish if it's something that had been corrected for this new edition, in part to rule out that the more recent edits of the tracks had been used (as that would put me off buying it).
That said, now that I'm familiar with how it should sound, the fact that there's a small timing error is very obvious to me. Perhaps this goes back to my mixing background, as I've trained myself to be sensitive to the little differences made by small adjustments in tempo/pitch. The time-corrected version sounds more natural to me, and it sounds more akin to the way it sounded when they played the song live. So it's certainly preferable to me at that speed. I'm not interested in legislating for anyone else though, just curious :)
You must find the quarter semitone pitch error of Miles Davis's 'Kind of Blue' unbearable! :eyebrows:
Well, from the fact that a difference between two things is noticeable or obvious to S, it does not follow that S will have a strong preference for either one or the other, so I don't know why you'd make that inference.
In the case of Light My Fire, I do happen to prefer the speed-corrected version.
With Kind Of Blue, I don't have a strong preference with respect to the standard or speed-corrected version, and my favourite edition of the album is the original Columbia mono LP, rather than any of the more recent speed-corrected versions that I have, but that's because I prefer the mono mix :)
My Doors 45 RPM "Infinite" box set has finally arrived, and most beautiful it looks, too!! :eek:
Thanks again to Scott for his exemplary service (I'll leave you feedback later, mate). I'm off now to enjoy my new present to myself - this is going to be a fun afternoon! :yay:
Laters, muchachos...
Marco.
Well, I've been having a good listen to this box set and, quite frankly, I'm gob-smacked at just how good these records sound. The awesomeness of this legendary music should be taken as a given, as it's amongst some of the best rock music ever produced, so in order to inform potential buyers who may wish to add this set to their collection, this review will concentrate instead on the aesthetic and sonic qualities of the collection, which features the band's six legendary studio albums, cut from the original analogue sources by Doug Sax and original engineer Bruce Botnick, and pressed on 12 x 200g 45RPM LPs at Quality Record Pressings, which are claimed to set new standards in all areas of vinyl music reproduction and collecting. The production run has been limited to 2,500 numbered copies, therefore considering the likely huge demand for this box set amongst aficionados, I'd expect the timescale for the availability of stock to be finite.
As soon as the stylus hits the grooves on any of these slabs of 200g gorgeousness, what strikes you immediately is the vividness and sheer lifelike clarity of vocals and instrumental detail, not to mention the penetrating and crisp 'thwack' of drum sounds, provide a 'shock factor' that, on a good system, takes your breath away. You can tell that valves and the best vintage analogue equipment have been used judiciously throughout the recording process, as musical information sounds uncannily natural and believable. All the detail is there, but the sound is never 'forced' at you in the artificial way of some 'audiophile quality' re-mastered CDs. Small nuances and musical clues, framed in a beguilingly inky blackness, jump out at you, unhindered, and shimmer rather spookily between the speakers, such is the quietness of these vinyl pressings, which I would have to agree are the best I've ever heard (or seen).
On that latter note, there is normally a slight opaque quality to the look of even new vinyl, until you run it through an RCM (due to the effect of mould release agent on the record surface, which is left from the manufacturing process), but not this stuff. It has a sort of glossy sheen on it normally not achieved until records are run 3 or 4 times through an RCM - we're talking veritably mirror-like here! This is most certainly prime-quality virgin vinyl. Also, when slipped from their Mobile Fidelity-style bags, the records themselves are completely free from static and 100% flat, with nary a 'ripple' visible, as you look at their edges when the platter is turning. The attention to detail and striving for excellence undertaken here, by those who have produced this box set, is beyond question - fabulous stuff!!
In terms of the overall packaging and artwork, it is in the top rank. The box itself (a high-quality, textured, 'slipcase type') is, artistically, beautifully presented and feels reassuringly tactile. Access to its contents is achieved via gently pulling open magnetic tabs on the side of the box, and when done, pops opens with a satisfying 'thunk', revealing the treasures inside in an entertainingly memorable way, as if one were about to expose some important and ancient manuscripts. This level of attention to detail certainly turns accessing the records themselves into somewhat of an occasion.
Once revealed, each album is individually wrapped and sealed, and when unwrapped, one is presented with album art that near-resembles the quality of an original painting (without the texture of such, of course), but the depth and tone of the colours is quite amazing, all printed in a glossy sheen on very thick cardboard, which one would assume would be most resilient to the effects of use over the years.
To hold one of the albums itself is to have in your hands a product of the highest quality, born as the finest example possible of a symbiotic relationship between the best of modern technology (involved in producing the superb quality of the packaging and artwork), and the best of old technology (involved in producing the recordings themselves). You can almost feel the love that has gone into producing this whole package. It is quintessentially *the* perfect advert for the unique benefits, visually and sonically, of physical music media. Accessing music files on a computer, quite simply, does not evoke this priceless emotional connection between the music itself and the listener.
The new Beatles re-masters I bought recently were superb, in terms of the packaging, artwork and the sound quality of the recordings themselves, but this Doors 45 RPM box set inhabits a different league altogether and is unquestionably not only the most beautiful looking collection of music I own, performed by very talented artists, but also the finest sounding - we're talking reference audiophile standard here. I sincerely doubt that, sonically, there are better recordings on vinyl out there - ANYWHERE. Rest asssured, the sound quality of these albums will completely take your breath away!!
If you're a Doors fan, own a high-quality turntable and system, and want to hear their music in all its glory, getting as close to the sound of the original master tapes as possible, then you owe it to yourself to obtain this very special, limited edition, 45 RPM vinyl box set. It's simply a wonderful advert for everything that's best about vinyl music replay, so much so that being in a state of rapture is virtually assured every time the box is opened and the delights inside that await you are revealed in all their glory. To see it is to want it; to hear it is to adore it. No serious music and high-fidelty audio vinyl lover should be without it.
I can give this box set no greater compliment :cool:
To obtain your limited edition copy before they all run out, contact Scott Nangle: http://www.scottnangle.co.uk/ Price is £270.
Marco.
The SACD of LA Woman is on its way, will let you know how it sounds. The SACD of The Doors is excellent.
Nice one, Martin. It would be good to directly compare the 45 RPM vinyl version with the SACD. That's another little task we can perform next time I'm down :)
Marco.
Rare Bird
11-04-2013, 10:00
Marco:
So you managed to 'Break On Through' to the other side yeah.. :eyebrows:
Lol, yeah baby!! :guitar: :hairmetal:
Marco.
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 10:21
Marco:
So you managed to 'Break On Through' to the other side yeah.. :eyebrows:
Tell all the people Andre ! Petition the lord with prayer .
The song's not about death, Chris...
Lol, yeah baby!! :guitar: :hairmetal:
Marco.
Was that "Before you slipped into unconciousness" (The Crystal Ship)? :eyebrows:
Will be up your way in about a week's time, so would be very interested in spinning a platter or two at yours. :)
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 11:02
The song's not about death, Chris...
I know ! I didn't mean that .
Just messing , just ignore me .
You usually do .
As a major Doors fan, Chris, are you tempted to buy the vinyl box set? :)
Marco.
Was that "Before you slipped into unconciousness" (The Crystal Ship)? :eyebrows:
Will be up your way in about a week's time, so would be very interested in spinning a platter or two at yours. :)
Nice one, muchacho - look forward to that! :cheers:
Marco.
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 12:08
As a major Doors fan, Chris, are you tempted to buy the vinyl box set? :)
Marco.
Oh yes Marco :)
Jim Morrison is one of my idols you could say , I just love the poetry and wordplay .
I've got all the albums , mostly the rhino reissue's but I'm tempted , just got my electrics upgraded so it will have to wait for a few weeks but maybe a couple of albums ?
You usually do .
:eek: never!
Rare Bird
11-04-2013, 12:51
Jim Morrison is one of my idols you could say , I just love the poetry and wordplay .
O he is mine too..
I've got all the albums , mostly the rhino reissue's but I'm tempted , just got my electrics upgraded so it will have to wait for a few weeks but maybe a couple of albums ?
I have all the Rhino's fuzzies, they sound good, i would dearly love the 45rpm set but the prices is well out of my league..But im happy enough with the Rhino's tbh..
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 13:02
O he is mine too..
I have all the Rhino's fuzzies, they sound good, i would dearly love the 45rpm set but the prices is well out of my league..But im happy enough with the Rhino's tbh..
They ain't cheap :eek: yeah I'm quite happy with the Rhino's as well .
Might have a doors sesh later , played very LOUD :D
Rare Bird
11-04-2013, 13:04
:eyebrows:
Music is your only friend, until the end
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 13:11
:eek: never!
That's better :D
Oh yes Marco :)
Jim Morrison is one of my idols you could say , I just love the poetry and wordplay .
I've got all the albums , mostly the rhino reissue's but I'm tempted , just got my electrics upgraded so it will have to wait for a few weeks but maybe a couple of albums ?
Nice one, Chris. When you say electrics upgraded, do you mean a separate spur for your system? :)
Yup, you could try a couple of albums and see how you get on. Trust me, you'll be gob-smacked at just how good they sound :cool:
Marco.
The original albums were not originally doubles nor were single sleeved albums G/fold, i mean how can you live without the rounded edges of the original 'L.A.Woman', that be like owning Floyds 'Obscured By Clouds' in a square packet!
Lol - good point! However, such things worry me less than you.
I already get fed up to the back teeth with 2LP versions of classic single LP's that spoil the original package as it is. & as the album tracks are spaced out over two discs are you not getting up off yor arse at shorter intervals to turn over than you would with a 33.3rpm version.
Hehehe... You should try it, when the T/T is upstairs and you have to go running up and down every 10 mins, or so, to turn the record over!! :eyebrows:
Such was the case today when I was listening downstairs on the 66s... Still, it keeps you fit! :D
However i guess at the end of the day it's aimed at the audiophile more than anything else..
You're absolutely right - that and diehard Doors fans. I love the music of the Doors, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the box set in the first place, but the 'no compromise' audiophile sound attached to this collection of vinyl was certainly a big selling point for me, as was the notion of investing in something that should likely be worth a few quid in future.
It's nice, as well as really enjoying the music, to have a set of reference recordings, which really show off your system. I know that sort of stuff is bollarkz to you, dude, but you can humour a big daftee like me! :lolsign:
Marco.
chris@panteg
11-04-2013, 23:31
Nice one, Chris. When you say electrics upgraded, do you mean a separate spur for your system? :)
Yup, you could try a couple of albums and see how you get on. Trust me, you'll be gob-smacked at just how good they sound :cool:
Marco.
New CU , replacing a 30 year old antique fusebox , should have done this sooner.
Been thinking about a dedicated radial circuit ? But it will be for the downstairs AV system as it's right next to the box ! And so easy to do .
Yeah I might get LA woman and the soft parade .
New CU , replacing a 30 year old antique fusebox , should have done this sooner.
Nice - I wanted to do that in a house I lived in previously, but never got round to it. Now I live in a new house and it already has circuit breakers installed. Much better than fuses.
chris@panteg
12-04-2013, 08:06
Nice - I wanted to do that in a house I lived in previously, but never got round to it. Now I live in a new house and it already has circuit breakers installed. Much better than fuses.
Awful things Martin , also the fusebox had wooden backless frame , and the board was covered in dust and crap .
The Doors sound much better :)
Ali Tait
12-04-2013, 08:10
From my recent fiddlings, I'd say you'd get much better bang for your buck going for a balanced transformer. Big improvement for not too much dosh.
chris@panteg
12-04-2013, 08:28
Hi Ali , yes so I've heard , but another reason to upgrade the CU is safety !! No protection before ?
daytona600
12-04-2013, 08:29
New CU , replacing a 30 year old antique fusebox , should have done this sooner.
Been thinking about a dedicated radial circuit ? But it will be for the downstairs AV system as it's right next to the box ! And so easy to do .
Yeah I might get LA woman and the soft parade .
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Originally Posted by daytona600 View Post
if funds are tight you can buy each of the doors 45rpm albums singles + the empty box to put them in.
Nice one, Scott. Maybe suggest that to Chris on the other thread in the music room?
Marco.
chris@panteg
12-04-2013, 08:53
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Originally Posted by daytona600 View Post
if funds are tight you can buy each of the doors 45rpm albums singles + the empty box to put them in.
Nice one, Scott. Maybe suggest that to Chris on the other thread in the music room?
Marco.
Thanks :)
Ali Tait
12-04-2013, 09:07
Hi Ali , yes so I've heard , but another reason to upgrade the CU is safety !! No protection before ?
Yes, will improve safety, though you were still protected by the fuses.
chris@panteg
12-04-2013, 09:23
Yes, will improve safety, though you were still protected by the fuses.
You're not suggesting I should have kept it and got the balanced transformer ?
I can have both , the installation cost £225 certified .
The difference it's made to sq ? Probably the biggest yet with my current system .
Ali Tait
12-04-2013, 09:56
No not necessarily, though your mains is still the same as it was before.
chris@panteg
12-04-2013, 14:26
No not necessarily, though your mains is still the same as it was before.
Ali , Brian told me about the balanced mains , its on my to do list :)
Funds permitting , overtime tommorow .
Oh and I'm still thinking about getting the Doors 45's , back on topic :)
daytona600
18-04-2013, 22:18
have all the single 45rpm Lps in stock chris " tempted "
can buy a empty box later if required ( non-numbered ) as box set are numbered to 2500
Oh and I'm still thinking about getting the Doors 45's , back on topic
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