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Audio Al
12-11-2012, 14:56
I have a 1200 MK11

And some new oil , cant find any info on how to clean out the bearing a re lube with Audio Origami oil

Any pointers please :)

AlanS
12-11-2012, 15:24
Have you contacted Audio Origami?

Audio Al
12-11-2012, 15:27
Yes I have contacted him

No help as the instructions sent out are for a Torrens belt drive TT

and thats the only instructions he has :doh:

Johnnie7
12-11-2012, 15:47
hi

its more or less the same operation for any deck

remove any old oil with the cotton buds and lint free cloth

clean the shaft and bearing with the other lint free cloth

once everything is clean add a few drops of oil to shaft and bearings area and fit the bearing together and do a test spin make sure its perfectly free

most decks have a captive bearing house that can hold a well of oil...if your bearing is the open type and does not hold a well of oil a generous coating of oil on the surfaces will last for 6 months or so

hope that helps any questions please just ask

bw
j7

Audio Al
12-11-2012, 15:50
hi

its more or less the same operation for any deck

remove any old oil with the cotton buds and lint free cloth

clean the shaft and bearing with the other lint free cloth

once everything is clean add a few drops of oil to shaft and bearings area and fit the bearing together and do a test spin make sure its perfectly free

most decks have a captive bearing house that can hold a well of oil...if your bearing is the open type and does not hold a well of oil a generous coating of oil on the surfaces will last for 6 months or so

hope that helps any questions please just ask

bw
j7

I tried pulling the shaft out to clean and oil it but it wont come out :doh:

Not wanting to get to heavy handed I stopped before I did any damage

Tarzan
12-11-2012, 16:17
I tried pulling the shaft out to clean and oil it but it wont come out :doh:

Not wanting to get to heavy handed I stopped before I did any damage


Al, may l take this opportunity to remind you this is a family based forum:lol:

Audio Al
12-11-2012, 16:19
its a long while since my shaft has been anywhere moist :D

Stratmangler
12-11-2012, 16:23
Th spindle won't pull, as there's a retaining clip on the spindle to stop it being pulled pulled out.
You need to dismantle much of the deck to get at the bearing.

I'm certain that Technics didn't intend for owners to dismantle the deck to lube the bearing, so I'd remove the platter and pull the spindle gently upward until it stops.
I'd then apply a few drops of oil where the spindle enters the main bearing housing.

Audio Al
12-11-2012, 16:40
Th spindle won't pull, as there's a retaining clip on the spindle to stop it being pulled pulled out.
You need to dismantle much of the deck to get at the bearing.

I'm certain that Technics didn't intend for owners to dismantle the deck to lube the bearing, so I'd remove the platter and pull the spindle gently upward until it stops.
I'd then apply a few drops of oil where the spindle enters the main bearing housing.

Chris

You are correct , I just found a PDF file on the 1200 MK11 and it shows the bearing being oiled that way , It says 2-3 drop's every 2000 hours so will do it again next week :D

Stratmangler
12-11-2012, 16:42
Chris

You are correct , I just found a PDF file on the 1200 MK11 and it shows the bearing being oiled that way , It says 2-3 drop's every 2000 hours so will do it again next week :D

Not bad for an educated guess, eh? :D

chris@panteg
12-11-2012, 17:11
Th spindle won't pull, as there's a retaining clip on the spindle to stop it being pulled pulled out.
You need to dismantle much of the deck to get at the bearing.

I'm certain that Technics didn't intend for owners to dismantle the deck to lube the bearing, so I'd remove the platter and pull the spindle gently upward until it stops.
I'd then apply a few drops of oil where the spindle enters the main bearing housing.

Spot on Chris :)

Johnnie7
12-11-2012, 17:15
a customer sent me details of the job
details below


Johnnie supplied me with a few vials of booster oil.
the oil can be applied in situ. but to totally remove and replace the old fluid and therefore reap the ultimate benefit - the bearing must be removed.
here is how to do a full clean and change:

Johnnie7
12-11-2012, 17:16
remove the centre screws and lift the pcb. the bearing will now lift out. there is a circlip at the base of the bearing - remove. clean off all original oil with supplied cloths and buds.


then
apply the new oil. re-fit, re-connect and enjoy
imo, the main bearing didn't seem a great design so the slippery oil can only help

Mike_New
26-11-2012, 05:25
remove the centre screws and lift the pcb. the bearing will now lift out. there is a circlip at the base of the bearing - remove. clean off all original oil with supplied cloths and buds.


then
apply the new oil. re-fit, re-connect and enjoy
imo, the main bearing didn't seem a great design so the slippery oil can only help

In actual fact, a thicker oil maybe the ideal when used on the standard bearing. There is so much looseness and 'play' between the simple stainless steel spindle and the brass insert that allmost any oil will do the job.
All the BS that I read about very special (and expensive) oils for the standard techie bearing is just that, and makes me spill my wine with laughter.

Marco
26-11-2012, 09:54
imo, the main bearing didn't seem a great design so the slippery oil can only help...


It's built to a price, dude. Replacing it with one of Mike's superb bespoke high-precision bearings is therefore, IMO, mandatory, if you want the Techy to sound like a genuinely high-end turntable.

Mike, I could do with some more oil for my bearing (as the bloody cat got hold of the last lot you sent, and somehow managed to spill it all over the floor! :doh:)

Could you send me some, mate? Churz! :cool:

Marco.

chris@panteg
26-11-2012, 10:34
It's built to a price, dude. Replacing it with one of Mike's superb bespoke high-precision bearings is therefore, IMO, mandatory, if you want the Techy to sound like a genuinely high-end turntable.

Mike, I could do with some more oil for my bearing (as the bloody cat got hold of the last lot you sent, and somehow managed to spill it all over the floor! :doh:)

Could you send me some, mate? Churz! :cool:

Marco.

I can just see that cat of yours looking inquisetively at your SPU and poking and prodding it , you know how cats do :D

Cheeky little buggers .

Mike_New
26-11-2012, 10:41
It's built to a price, dude. Replacing it with one of Mike's superb bespoke high-precision bearings is therefore, IMO, mandatory, if you want the Techy to sound like a genuinely high-end turntable.

Mike, I could do with some more oil for my bearing (as the bloody cat got hold of the last lot you sent, and somehow managed to spill it all over the floor! :doh:)

Could you send me some, mate? Churz! :cool:

Marco.

No Problem Marco,
You meean to say you have got some oily cat poo!!!!!

Marco
26-11-2012, 11:49
Lol... They didn't eat the oil (thankfully) - just decided to chase the syringe around the house, as a play thing! My fault for leaving it out on the kitchen table, after using it.

Cheers, mate. You've got my addy, haven't you? :)

Marco.

P.S Chris, the cats don't get near my listening room - way too dangerous, for them (with valves switched on), and my stylus :eek:

chris@panteg
26-11-2012, 12:03
Lol... They didn't eat the oil (thankfully) - just decided to chase the syringe around the house, as a play thing! My fault for leaving it out on the kitchen table, after using it.

Cheers, mate. You've got my addy, haven't you? :)

Marco.

P.S Chris, the cats don't get near my listening room - way too dangerous, for them (with valves switched on), and my stylus :eek:

I was only joking ,but its funny how interested cats are when they come across a valve amp (switched on)

Audio Al
26-11-2012, 12:07
The most fun I EVER had with a cat :-

1 Cat

1 Laser pointer ( Red dot type )

= hours of fun and one knackered cat :lol:

It was my sisters cat , even she had a go and could not stop laughing :D

chris@panteg
26-11-2012, 12:12
The most fun I EVER had with a cat :-

1 Cat

1 Laser pointer ( Red dot type )

= hours of fun and one knackered cat :lol:

It was my sisters cat , even she had a go and could not stop laughing :D

Yes, also in summer ,out in the garden with one of those water jet spray gun thingies ,loads of fun and a very tired Cat .

walpurgis
26-11-2012, 21:29
My dog does the same thing.

I get him galloping up and down the living room chasing the laser pointer dot. Most days he comes and nudges me and looks at the floor to let me know he wants the laser game!

southall-1998
26-11-2012, 23:08
:lol:

walpurgis
26-11-2012, 23:14
Hi Shane, how're you doin'?

How are the Missions?

Geoff.

southall-1998
26-11-2012, 23:25
Will send PM in 5 min :)