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Daniel75
08-09-2012, 20:47
Hiya,

Just a quick question - it looks like home made cleaning solution and Knosti
Disco thing are best for those on the budget. Now Im wondering - why it is not advisable to simply hoover vinyl records?

like this :) http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/cleanrecordnot5905.jpg

D

Macca
08-09-2012, 21:17
Dry hoovering won't really clean the record. It will get rid of the surface dust but it won't get rid of the stuff down deep in the grooves which is what is actually causing all the noise, clicks, pops and jumps. You need to wash the record in solution to dislodge the dirt then vacuum. The world is full of vinyl fans in denial about cleaning records. I know because I was one of them once. The truth is there are no shortcuts. A proper RCM will pay you back in lower stylus wear and a massively increased enjoyment of your records. And that's my two cents. :)

Marco
08-09-2012, 21:41
+1 (with BIG bells on)!! :exactly:

Marco.

Alex_UK
08-09-2012, 22:23
Believe you me, I've tried every method known to man to clean vinyl, then invented a couple more, and then gave up! ;) There are no short-cuts or silver bullets, I'm afraid!

Daniel75
08-09-2012, 22:29
oh well :-) I'll start with Knosti disco thing then. Cant afford proper RCMs right now sadly.

cheers guys

Macca
08-09-2012, 22:41
oh well :-) I'll start with Knosti disco thing then. Cant afford proper RCMs right now sadly.

cheers guys

It's abig chunk of money, I know. This is the cheapest way in short of making one completely from scratch:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTH-RCM-2-RECORD-CLEANING-MACHINE-DIY-KIT-/271053630971?pt=Turntable_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1c0e2dfb

You will need to be a bit handy or know someone who is, but well worth it.

The Grand Wazoo
08-09-2012, 23:19
How many records have you got, Dan?
Do you plan to continue buying vinyl?
And what's your cartridge worth?

Behind the answers to these questions lies another one:
Can you afford not to own an RCM?

Daniel75
08-09-2012, 23:26
How many records have you got, Dan?
Do you plan to continue buying vinyl?
And what's your cartridge worth?

Behind the answers to these questions lies another one:
Can you afford not to own an RCM?

not many records. yet. I love it so will definitely keep buying:) Cartridge is worth about 200 pounds new.

So yeah - I can see sense in saving some cash and getting something which works - specially since my records are second hand.

Is this Moth hard to assemble? I am quite handy - I think:)

also - wouldn't this be cheaper and similarly effective alternative? http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm

PLINIUS
09-09-2012, 04:28
not many records. yet. I love it so will definitely keep buying:) Cartridge is worth about 200 pounds new.

So yeah - I can see sense in saving some cash and getting something which works - specially since my records are second hand.

Is this Moth hard to assemble? I am quite handy - I think:)

also - wouldn't this be cheaper and similarly effective alternative? http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm
Dan, don't overlook the s/h market. 2 years ago I bought a Nitty Gritty 2.5L from Cash Converters for $1OO, spent another $50 on new rubber & felt pads.

General Indifference
09-09-2012, 12:34
The KAB-EV1 is excellent, and just as effective as an Okki-Nokki or the Moth cleaners, just not quite as convenient.

not many records. yet. I love it so will definitely keep buying:) Cartridge is worth about 200 pounds new.

So yeah - I can see sense in saving some cash and getting something which works - specially since my records are second hand.

Is this Moth hard to assemble? I am quite handy - I think:)

also - wouldn't this be cheaper and similarly effective alternative? http://www.kabusa.com/ev1.htm

keiths
09-09-2012, 12:59
The KAB-EV1 is excellent, and just as effective as an Okki-Nokki or the Moth cleaners, just not quite as convenient.

You need 'convenient' IMHO or you just won't use it. My Moth (built from the kit) is sat right next to my records ready to use - if I had to go and fetch the vacuum cleaner and put it all together every time, I'd be much less inclined to clean my records. Get the Moth kit - It's not that more expensive than the KAB once shipping, vat and duty are factored in.

General Indifference
09-09-2012, 15:15
I suppose it depends how lazy you are. I had one for several years, and I never found it that much of a task to get the hoover out and clean a batch. They come up second hand every now and again for below £100.


You need 'convenient' IMHO or you just won't use it. My Moth (built from the kit) is sat right next to my records ready to use - if I had to go and fetch the vacuum cleaner and put it all together every time, I'd be much less inclined to clean my records. Get the Moth kit - It's not that more expensive than the KAB once shipping, vat and duty are factored in.

Lodgesound
09-09-2012, 15:50
Speaking from an entirely practical standpoint this is why the recording industry stopped recording direct to disc in 1959......

At my place of employment we have 3 analogue tape cleaning machines which cost a mere £25 000 each. They are used every day as we have to clean most older tapes we archive.

Daniel75
09-09-2012, 18:35
I suppose it depends how lazy you are. I had one for several years, and I never found it that much of a task to get the hoover out and clean a batch. They come up second hand every now and again for below £100.

Laziness wont be a problem:-) Ill keep my eyes open and maybe will find something second hand.

Ta

D

awkwardbydesign
10-09-2012, 19:44
I no longer hoover; I now have a Kirby. There may well be a record cleaning attachment. After all there is a head massage attachment, and a combined orbital sanding/massage attachment. Really.
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