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Rare Bird
24-08-2012, 22:16
Nearly 30 years of Hi-Fi obsession, it's about time i drew the line at some point!..Ive plain & simply had enough..
In short it is progressivly getting worse. Ive decided to accumilate a quality buget system that is the final line. Anyone feel the same? the most happy sound times for me were very early 80's!
im not a show off nor have any forum jones to keep up with! ;)
Mr Perceptive
24-08-2012, 22:21
It's all about the law of deminishing returns. With your first proper hifi you made a great leap in Sound quality, all the next steps are smaller leaps/refinement.
Having said that, due to a divorce, I've just gone from a £20K (RRP) system to one that Has an RRP of less than £2K and am really enjoying it.
Thing Fish
25-08-2012, 00:43
I reached that point years ago Andr'e. Throwing thousands of pounds into a cable or a pin plated with moon dust is just not for me.
Having traveled a good portion of the world in 2004 I came to realise that happiness for me is in not bogging myself down with shit. I have the same system I bought in 1990 and apart from a new pointy bit and a few other small bits and pieces it has remained the same.
Truth is that like yourself I enjoyed listening to music more when I was a kid on my £100 system than I sometimes do now on a system that costs vastly more.
I still like reading about it though...:eyebrows:
Time to start into DIY, methinks.
Audio Al
25-08-2012, 05:23
" Ive plain & simply had enough.. "
Enough ! can you ever have enough ?
dantheman91
25-08-2012, 05:35
My dads given up the hobbie altogether which is a shame. considering the stuff he used to have he cant find it anymore.
I've had occasional thoughts for re-planning the whole hobby and concentrate even more to the music instead of audio gear, so the feeling is very familiar. Perhaps I'll build a long term music lover set of smaller size and price tag and just continue reading & writing of my experiences with the hifi. Or then have to stick to what I have :)
One link somehow related to this subject http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/musiclover1/musiclover.html
not given up but i hope i have finally got the upgrade and box swapping bug out of my head at last, yes i will still buy the odd thing but i'm not so obsessed by it all now, i know what i like and don't more to the point and can now give my wallet a rest :lol:
un-sensible head voice is saying can anyone recommend a usb dac :doh:
Sensible head voice says stop it you don't need another :D
Wakefield Turntables
25-08-2012, 07:15
I decided to optimise things, cut back and just a system for the music. I still have a lot of audio gear but I think certain music sounds better in certain gear. S I'm keeping a decent valve setup and a decent ss setup, the rest is going. ;)
awkwardbydesign
25-08-2012, 07:58
I am a DIYer who loves hifi, so making stuff is what keeps me interested.
jandl100
25-08-2012, 08:11
Nearly 30 years of Hi-Fi obsession, it's about time i drew the line at some point!..Ive plain & simply had enough..
..... Anyone feel the same? the most happy sound times for me were very early 80's!
Nope. I don't feel like that at all.
The best thing I ever did in terms of musical enjoyment was start myself on the hifi box-swapping trail!
Ne'er a dull moment. All of it is fun. :yay:
awkwardbydesign
25-08-2012, 08:35
When I started in the early '70s, magazines had a lot of DIY articles, in fact I have NEVER bought a complete pair of speakers, so making your own gear was quite normal. The same with clothes, and many other things too. I think the rise of consumerism, with all the advertising plus promoting the idea that you can buy your way to satisfaction creates a climate of frustration. Of course, sellers like that, as you then have to buy more to chase that elusive ideal. And again, and again.
I know I will never reach perfection, but each piece I make, or modify, gives me a sense of achievement; or not, but at least I have learnt something, and I can modifiy or rebuild. I have far more control over my own destiny compared to just buying and hoping.
On a related note, I ride motorbikes, and build or modify them too. Yet I see people who buy a new bike, find the seat or footpegs don't suit their size, so sell the bike and buy another! Changing those aspects is the easiest thing in the world, but it's beyond their imagination.
Don't be a consumer, IF that is what you are, you are just letting others control your pleasures.
OK, end of non-party political broadcast. But even if you can't build yourself, get someone else to do it for you; you can still be in control.
And to all the happy box swappers; good for you, as long as you're happy, then why not?
awkwardbydesign
25-08-2012, 08:39
But even if you can't build yourself, get someone else to do it for you;
That would be handy, a better me would be nice.
I can honestly say I'm very nearly where I want to be, I've a mixture of classic and new gear and it don't 'alf sound good. A couple more upgrades to the Techie, a Bushmaster to replace the Caiman, a linear PS for the Mini-T and a bit of cable swapping should see me there or thereabouts... :D
Dingdong
25-08-2012, 09:07
I can honestly say I'm very nearly where I want to be, I've a mixture of classic and new gear and it don't 'alf sound good. A couple more upgrades to the Techie, a Bushmaster to replace the Caiman, a nice pair of valve monos and a bit of cable swapping should see me there or thereabouts... :D
Corrected your spelling mistakes for you Dave. :lol:
I feel for you, Andre, and hope that you can somehow find enjoyment, but I can't relate at all to your situation.
I'm enjoying my system, and most importantly music, more than ever, as the core part of it is now a settled unit, with only minor tweaking to cables, etc, taking place. These days, the vast majority of my audio budget is spent on music! :)
Marco.
awkwardbydesign
25-08-2012, 09:10
Corrected you spelling mistakes for you Dave. :lol:
"Corrected YOU spelling mistakes..."? Tut tut. But agree with your point.
Dingdong
25-08-2012, 09:16
"Corrected YOU spelling mistakes..."? Tut tut. But agree with your point.
:doh:
I feel for you, Andre, and hope that you can somehow find enjoyment, but I can't relate at all to your situation.
I'm enjoying my system, and most importantly music, more than ever, as the core part of it is now a settled unit, with only minor tweaking to cables, etc, taking place. These days, the vast majority of my audio budget is spent on music! :)
Marco.
Indeed, I don't really see what the issue is either.
I have owned, essentially, the same system for 20 years. In that time I have modified most of the components, but despite the fact that I have heard a lot of different equipment (and still do), I rarely feel tempted by anything new and my enjoyment of music is very rarely impeded by flaws in the system.
Corrected your spelling mistakes for you Dave. :lol:
:ner::D
Dominic Harper
25-08-2012, 10:16
I've only been into vinyl for about 5 years or so, but I do get a buzz from listening to all the different sounds that are produced from a wide range of turntables, arms, carts, speakers, phonostages, SUTs, valve amps, amps the list is endless. To me it is all about the musicality and listening to things that work well together. Not always about the price or the money you spend, because quite often it doesn't have to cost the earth to get decent quality sound from your equipment.
I enjoy having a listen to OPs stuff, and besides I always thought that this was a hobby not an issue, sometimes it's good fun, sometimes it get's a little bit serious, sometimes it's expensive, sometimes it's cheap and sometimes it just pi**es you off in general. But isn't that most hobbies and interests.
The thing that I have noticed that tends to annoy a lot of people, not about the money they have spent, but when they read a response on a forum and they just know that is the wrong advice to give. I have heard many OP say, what a load of rubbish but they never respond and give the correct advice, but that is what I think this game is all about OPINIONS. There are no hard and fast rules and everything is subjective.
One persons view on an excellent arm for example, might be another persons nightmare. But we do tend to buy things that become flavour of the month, and then we get bored of that item and change it for something else, and we are forever upgrading. That's the nature of this hobby.
To be honest if you have had enough, then you can always send all your equipment to me and I will happily take it off your hands lolololololol.
Natalie;)
Couldn't agree more Nat. It's also fun when one comes across a combination that accepted wisdom says shouldn't work only for one to discover that it does. When I acquired my Techie the only arm I had available was a Series III SME fitted with a Goldring G900IGC which came off my old Thorens. On the Techie it went and who'd a thunk it, the two make beautiful music together... :D
Good post. However...
But we do tend to buy things that become flavour of the month, and then we get bored of that item and change it for something else, and we are forever upgrading.
Speak for yourself, shweety! ;)
Marco.
Do you suffer buyer's remorse then Andre?
I don't see what is so wrong with colecting vintage hi fi (ir in my case old junk hi-fi :)) - a man should have an interest besides wife and kids and as long as it doesn't unduly effect you finances or relationships then why not indulge oneself a little? Life is too short to spend it agonising over this shit.
Rare Bird
25-08-2012, 19:40
Do you suffer buyer's remorse then Andre?
I don't see what is so wrong with colecting vintage hi fi (ir in my case old junk hi-fi :)) - a man should have an interest besides wife and kids and as long as it doesn't unduly effect you finances or relationships then why not indulge oneself a little? Life is too short to spend it agonising over this shit.
No not at all i know exactly what i'm buying, i don't usually buy vintage to use everyday it's more to do with obsessive behaviour for the late 60's/early 70's..in otherword ornaments to feed my need ..My everyday system consists of more modern equipment, this is the problem with me..i always find the buget equipment from the late 70's/early 80's sounds better than the higher end equipment..I cannot live with todays horrendous equipment..
I just spend a few hundred quid on a used buget system that will suite my needs now. I don't have anything to proove cos it's me listerning to it not anyone else ;) i'm not perfect like a lot lot seem to think they are on here, which must be a gift i wasnt granted.. As ive said before i'm not into Hi-Fi i just have an obsession with a certain era's equipment..
As Dave pointed out you can never get back that sound you remember loving so much when you were younger.
I think you are maybe assigning motivations to some other people which they probably do not have, although I can see why you might interpret it that way. Enthusiasm can often be interpreted as boasting or trying to impress. I don't read it that way and there is very rarely a pissing contest on this site anyway, although the odd one now and again can be entertaining ;)
WOStantonCS100
25-08-2012, 20:28
I've never really been into box swapping. I've always been into music. I've never been into settling for sound that wasn't (subjectively) "good" to me, either. Therefore, there is a necessity to focus on gear at some point; not neurotically, just with an ear on what will allow me to hear as much of a recording (the music and detail thereof) as possible for as much enjoyment as I can afford. This ultimately led me to building (DIY) some of my own gear as well as upgrading some things I already had.
Many epiphanies came about. One was that I was able to build amplification more capable of the job than I could find in the average hi-fi shop. I'd be lying if I said "less cost" didn't seal the deal. I also found that, at least at the time, there was much out-of-demand gear that (IMO) sonically left some new gear in the dust. A prime example of this is my ancient SAE Mark IIIA power amp. As much as I fancy building valve mono blocks, I've swapped in several newer amps (that were more asthetically pleasing) from time to time, only to move them out because the sonics were inferior, typically not being able to control the 15" woofers in my current loudspeakers anywhere near as well. All that to say, box swapping is at a minimum for me because for me to go through the trouble of disconnecting/reconnecting cables, I am sure as fire going to research the hell out of any gear before doing so... ...and that usually takes months, sometimes, years.
I've never really been into box swapping. I've always been into music. I've never been into settling for sound that wasn't (subjectively) "good" to me, either. .
That says it pretty much for me also. If your car wasn't working to your satisfaction you would fix it, sell it or modify it. Once your happy with the performance then you can enjoy driving it more. It's also more fun and more of a challenge if you can do it without spending a fortune.
i'm not perfect like a lot lot seem to think they are on here.
Hmm,,,how humble.....
I remember the budget gear from the 70's and 80's, but not with the fondness you appear to.
Did you ever go any further with the file based/touch screen system André?
Thats where I am now and I love it, bloody fantastic way to play music for me and I'm just nearing the point when I have everything sorted and no more tweaking for me, just sit back and enjoy the toons ;)
Rare Bird
25-08-2012, 22:49
Hi Tim
No i decided Files wernt for me. I miss my old ways too much.
I've never really been into box swapping. I've always been into music. I've never been into settling for sound that wasn't (subjectively) "good" to me, either. Therefore, there is a necessity to focus on gear at some point; not neurotically, just with an ear on what will allow me to hear as much of a recording (the music and detail thereof) as possible for as much enjoyment as I can afford.
For me, that's it in a nutshell :)
A good test is also to use your 'musical memory' to ascertain if the sound of your current system has progressed notably from that of others preceding it. If it hasn't, then you're going backwards and wasting your time and kidding yourself on, like Andre has alluded to! ;)
By 'musical memory' I mean that we all have certain albums we've owned for years, the music on which we know inside out, and also how that music sounds through the various systems we've owned, over the years.
The most telling test, however, is with music that you know very well, but haven't played for a while, perhaps not yet through a new component or speakers, cables, or whatever, which you've recently added to your system.
Therefore, when playing said very familiar music on your current system, your 'musical memory' of it automatically tells you if the sound you're hearing now is better or worse than it was the last time you heard it with different equipment, because you intrinsically 'know' from previous experience how that music should sound: I.E. the 'sound in your head', from before, acts as the arbiter.
I got a pleasant surprise recently when I played a Queens of the Stone Age album I hadn't heard since I owned my Naim system (in 2005!) and I was shocked at how much better it sounded than I previously remembered... That's how I judge my system's 'sonic progress', and based on that, my system has never sounded better than it does now, and consequently my appreciation and enjoyment of music has never been greater, therefore my money has been well spent! :cool:
Marco.
Reid Malenfant
26-08-2012, 18:50
The most telling test, however, is with music that you know very well, but haven't played for a while, perhaps not yet through a new component or speakers, cables, or whatever, which you've recently added to your system.
Therefore, when playing said very familiar music on your current system, your 'musical memory' of it automatically tells you if the sound you're hearing now is better or worse than it was the last time you heard it with different equipment, because you intrinsically 'know' from previous experience how that music should sound: I.E. the 'sound in your head', from before, acts as the arbiter.
:thumbsup:
Spot on! Glad to hear I'm not the only one that notices these things :)
Rare Bird
26-08-2012, 19:59
It's basically the same thing, but my music doesnt do it for me like it did 30 years ago which tells me ive gone full circle wasting many thousands in the process. Regardless of any brainwaves i may have had in past about upgrading :mental: ,i realised for some time it was a silly move on my part..one of my old systems i had right back at the start before i got out of control will be just fine..
:doh:
I've gone full circle too and am enjoying music through my ancient vintage systems in a way I thought I'd forgotten, hence my continued scepticism when w@nky wires and different materials in phono plugs are mentioned - I'm just not tuned in to that sort of thing any more and am hearing good things in my music I didn't notice before when I was neurotic about "stuff...." S'alright, it's me that's reduced and I'm happy with that :)
Rare Bird
26-08-2012, 20:42
Glad you see what i'm getting at Dave..
SSSSHHHHHHH!!!!! A60's are still just about affordable still. Any more talk about them and they'll cost more at thirty years old than they cost new ;)
Dominic Harper
26-08-2012, 20:53
Actually you have just said it in your statement Marco, by using the word different. Different doesn't always mean better or worse but just that different.
Natalie;)
Hi Natalie,
Not sure what you mean....? :scratch:
Marco.
SSSSHHHHHHH!!!!! A60's are still just about affordable still. Any more talk about them and they'll cost more at thirty years old than they cost new ;)
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRe8KeP8kxewB-RvFQOE46UVOiEdViOHUzXL_d_JcoF1vybimjJ
Oh I dunno Dave, A60's in good condition fetch decent money these days although I'd have problems getting one in my living room... :scratch: :D
Indeed, I don't really see what the issue is either.
I have owned, essentially, the same system for 20 years. In that time I have modified most of the components, but despite the fact that I have heard a lot of different equipment (and still do), I rarely feel tempted by anything new and my enjoyment of music is very rarely impeded by flaws in the system.
A lot of my system was purchased many years ago. The most enjoyment for me has been from tweaking and modding what I already had. I have never really been a serial box swapper as I feel that this only leads to frustration as the end result can be disappointing. Why do we always fell the need to "fix" that 5% (or less) of the sound that only manifests itself on a few discs?!:doh:
The most telling test, however, is with music that you know very well, but haven't played for a while, perhaps not yet through a new component or speakers, cables, or whatever, which you've recently added to your system.
Yup, I am sometimes amazed at how much more a CD or track makes sense to what I remember from years ago. Funny old game init (as Jimmy Greaves used to say)
jandl100
27-08-2012, 07:29
.... I have never really been a serial box swapper as I feel that this only leads to frustration as the end result can be disappointing. Why do we always fell the need to "fix" that 5% (or less) of the sound that only manifests itself on a few discs?!:doh:
Well, it all depends what you mean by box-swapping.
a) the desperate, depressing and intrinsically doomed attempt to find a system sound that you are happy with, as you really are not satisfied with what you have at the moment
or b) the huge amount of enjoyment to be had by exploring what different flavours and/or combinations of hifi components can provide within the context of a system that you very much enjoy already.
Place me in Category b) of the box-swapping fraternity. :cool:
Dingdong
27-08-2012, 07:34
I thought I'd just given up buying stuff. I've got quite a decent system without spending loads of money. Can't fault the sound. Love listening to it.
Then there was this Decca Gold in need of repair for quite cheap. Replacement cartridges are allowed aren't they?
Hi Jerry,
Well, it all depends what you mean by box-swapping.
a) the desperate, depressing and intrinsically doomed attempt to find a system sound that you are happy with, as you really are not satisfied with what you have at the moment
or b) the huge amount of enjoyment to be had by exploring what different flavours and/or combinations of hifi components can provide within the context of a system that you very much enjoy already.
Place me in Category b) of the box-swapping fraternity. :cool:
I think you can take it for granted that when box-swappers are referred to here in a derogatory context, no-one is referring to you ;)
Marco.
Dominic Harper
27-08-2012, 10:48
Hi Natalie,
Not sure what you mean....? :scratch:
Marco.
What I mean is, that well me especially. I tend to listen to some new equipment and think this sounds better, but it might not be better to some people just different and someone once said that to me. It makes perfect sense. It not always better or worse, just that different. Especially, when you haven't heard a particular piece of vinyl for a while and try it on something new.
Natalie;)
jandl100
27-08-2012, 11:31
What's wrong with 'different'?
I think different can be just as much fun and interesting as 'better'. :)
Anyway, you can get an alternate balance of virtues with different kit.
Elvis's last movement
27-08-2012, 12:12
I haven't had that much spare cash over the years and I always felt uncomfortable going into a shop when I have no intention of buying. Most of my stereo kit is the result of what others think is great.....
I recently bought some Tannoys which I reckon are astonishing so I am enjoying music listening more and more. I owe this site a lot!!!!!!
awkwardbydesign
27-08-2012, 12:30
I thought I'd just given up buying stuff. I've got quite a decent system without spending loads of money. Can't fault the sound. Love listening to it.
Then there was this Decca Gold in need of repair for quite cheap. Replacement cartridges are allowed aren't they?
And the arm to go with it!
The Grand Wazoo
27-08-2012, 12:33
Then there was this Decca Gold in need of repair for quite cheap.
That was you who won it, was it? If I hadn't have had to go out unexpectedly yesterday, you might have had a fight on yer hands over that one!
Dingdong
27-08-2012, 12:47
That was you who won it, was it? If I hadn't have had to go out unexpectedly yesterday, you might have had a fight on yer hands over that one!
Might have been.
Hopefully it's not completely screwed when I get it.
The Grand Wazoo
27-08-2012, 12:59
Good luck with it!
That was you who won it, was it? If I hadn't have had to go out unexpectedly yesterday, you might have had a fight on yer hands over that one!
Was it on eBay? Losing interest in the Mk.IV? Semper fideles!
The Grand Wazoo
27-08-2012, 13:38
Losing interest? No, far from it. Just thinking about some more options for when I get that third arm up & running!
Patrick Dixon
27-08-2012, 13:42
Might have been.
Hopefully it's not completely screwed when I get it.
Send it to John Wright and get it rebuilt and sent back without the case fitted. Order a Deccabod from Aus. Fit JW rebuilt Decca into Deccabod. Enjoy.
Will cost you less than £400 (including what you already spent)
I would have bid but I already have 4 Deccas ...
awkwardbydesign
27-08-2012, 14:07
Glad I didn't repeat the advice I gave you elsewhere!
northwest
27-08-2012, 18:13
Life is too short to spend it agonising over this shit.
In a nutshell really.
Life is too short to spend it agonising over this shit.
Too right Martin ;)
Rare Bird
28-08-2012, 13:28
:steam:
Rare Bird
28-08-2012, 14:40
I start a pretty sensible topic about experiences ive encountered over the years with stereos to get a bunch of crap like 'Life is too short to spend it agonising over this sh@t'. What's the point eh?
Yes, but I'm not sure that the shit they were referring to is the same as you're thinking....
Marco.
Andre, the way you have interpreted it is certainly not what you think fella, it honestly isn't (certainly from my point of view anyway).
There is a lot of sympathy for what you feel, that's obvious but I don't think any offence was meant at all.
My bad I think ? My post was in response to a later comment by Andre and not his original post. Needs to be read in that light.
I find this thread a little confusing. The equipment is needed to play the music but without the equipment...? Well, I'm sure I don't need to say anymore than that.
The Grand Wazoo
28-08-2012, 18:07
Well, you could listen to cables - some folks seem to think they're more important than components.
Putting a system together is kinda like cooking, you need the correct ingredients to end up with a tasty dish ;)
jandl100
29-08-2012, 06:51
Let me start again because apart from being crap at expressing things in writing i think the thread has drifted a bit!
Decades ago i started my intrest in Hi-Fi aswell as getting well into a certain type of music.
The issue is that the early systems that i put together i really enjoyed listerning to them. Over the years i gradually upgraded as you do, bought more expensive equipment etc for better sound results! I don't know what went wrong but i truly truly thought i was progressively upgrading for the best, it certainly seem like it was (I won't excude some obsessive upgrade schemes).. however, up until recently it hit me that i've not enjoy listerning to music for yonks & find myself changing albums before they even finish, bordom pretty much really...
Up untill recently i've been re-listerning to some of my early equipment i used to enjoy music with, to find that the years of so called upgrade phases i went through were nothing but a total waste of tme & money for me when i look back, i now again enjoy music like at used to, you can't pull me away sometimes..I was even late for work today :D
So the 'Just About Had Enough' out with the new, in with the old..I thini finally broke free.
Interesting stuff. And good to get back on track after all of the "AOS thread drift" :)
I certainly remember the wall of sound I got from my very first stereo - a little Philips all-in-one with very lightweight speakers (just empty plastic boxes, I guess), single drivers, about 12x12 inches and 3 inches or so deep. I put them high up on the wall in my bedroom (I was about 14 or 15, I think), one in each corner. I was so very very pleased with it and enjoyed my music hugely. I remember sitting for hours in my room listening again and again to Beethoven's 5th piano concerto until it finally "clicked" and I tuned into what it was about. A really magical moment.
What would I think of the sound now? - utter crap I am sure. But that's not the point is it. I enjoyed it then and it communicated the music to me.
It does make you wonder if hifi upgrades are really necessary for musical enjoyment - probably not; if I'd never heard anything better than that little Philips lo-fi system maybe I'd still be marvelling at how good I thought it sounded!
Andre I think what is great is you now enjoying the music again and now able to spend your money on all those obscure albums you love
awkwardbydesign
29-08-2012, 07:49
When I was younger, I thought Blue Nun Liebfraumilch was wonderful, and Holsten Pils was a top beer. My tastes have changed, I think deepened, and even my taste buds changed. I needed sugar in my coffee, now some coffees are too sweet on their own.
Isn't it a normal part of life that we develop, but long for a simpler time also? Going back is rarely possible, or even desirable IMO, but remembering those feelings can give me pleasure. However I think it takes something different to recapture the emotion, and even that changes; I don't experience the same feelings in the same way, my emotional taste buds have matured!
And I think that is the point, we can't have it both ways. Do you really want to give up everything that you have experienced in the intervening years (and they do intervene, don't they?), all the new music you discovered, all the food, people, everything? I certainly don't, but there is a price to be paid. I am not the same person, and I wouldn't go back to that earlier person; I wasn't that nice, to be honest.
Certainly go for a simpler sound system, but please don't regret your journey to now. You disrespect yourself if you do, the self you are now.
I haven't met you, but I suspect I would (will?) prefer the present you to the earlier one.
jandl100
29-08-2012, 07:52
Good, thoughtful post, Richard. :thumbsup:
When I was younger, I thought Blue Nun Liebfraumilch was wonderful, and Holsten Pils was a top beer. My tastes have changed, I think deepened, and even my taste buds changed. I needed sugar in my coffee, now some coffees are too sweet on their own.
Isn't it a normal part of life that we develop, but long for a simpler time also? Going back is rarely possible, or even desirable IMO, but remembering those feelings can give me pleasure. However I think it takes something different to recapture the emotion, and even that changes; I don't experience the same feelings in the same way, my emotional taste buds have matured!
And I think that is the point, we can't have it both ways. Do you really want to give up everything that you have experienced in the intervening years (and they do intervene, don't they?), all the new music you discovered, all the food, people, everything? I certainly don't, but there is a price to be paid. I am not the same person, and I wouldn't go back to that earlier person; I wasn't that nice, to be honest.
Certainly go for a simpler sound system, but please don't regret your journey to now. You disrespect yourself if you do, the self you are now.
I haven't met you, but I suspect I would (will?) prefer the present you to the earlier one.
as a french intellectual once wrote, 'to return is not necessarily to repeat provided we approach the place we know by a different road' :)
bobbasrah
29-08-2012, 08:38
Good, thoughtful post, Richard. :thumbsup:
Yes indeed, well said...:D
awkwardbydesign
29-08-2012, 14:08
as a french intellectual once wrote, 'to return is not necessarily to repeat provided we approach the place we know by a different road' :)
Yes, but he was French!
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