whats the best SL1200 MK2 Cart....in standard arm ?

[the engine]

Ps......using a denon 110 at the mo. And a orto 2m black. But that's really my gyrodec cart.

[the engine]

What can I add ? .......nuff said.
I'm expecting a shed load of denon answers but that fair enough. I'll consider em all.
I've had an AT oc9ml2....too toppy in my gyrodec but in a technics ??
Your veiws are valued....all of em dudes ( and dudettes ) .
Are there any real dudettes here....not just soft lads ?

[Beechwoods]

I have a lovely sounding Pickering XV-15/625e which I would always recommend. Fine detail and excellent controlled and refined bass. Love it!

Yours, Nicola :)

[the engine]

I love you I do Nicol....ahh You little tinker.
I have certainly not heard one of those.
Carts are a bitch to pick . No demo's these days is there ?
So trusting forum opinions is a must.
Cheers for that.

[Beechwoods]

Price wise, it's an excellent choice. Punches well above its weight in my opinion.

[Tarzan]

To be honest, the world is your lobster,l have used, Stanton 500,520, 681, Nagaoka MP110, and all the way up to a Lyra Helikon..........and there will be more to follow as setting up and ease of use is a doddle even for me:)

[RobbieGong]

I have the 2M Black on stock arm with KAB fluid damper and it has sounded great. I'm sure I can get more out of it with the stock arm if I look at compliance figures more. I keep reading that compliance is pretty important in respect of arms and carts. You'll probably know that the stock arm is on the lightish side therefore matching with a cart that is known to be better matched to a lightish - medium weight arm would likely work well, others will know more about all that than me :)

[Alex_UK]

Quite a few of us rate the Nagaoka range - not as cheap as they used to be new, but potential bargains to be had 2nd hand.

Yours, Alice x

[DSJR]

Alice? Looks like Dr Two-bricks has got in early :lol:

Ortofon 2M any model
AT120E, 440MLa and any of the well known MC's from F series to OC9 and 33EV or PTG, although the new models have been perfect excuses for a generous price hike!
Shure Me97XE - great cartridge if you get a good one and the Jico SAS stylus takes it to another level entirely, as the SAS seems to do with all Shures.
Stanton 681EEE and Pickering models above and below it. The XV15/625 is a sort of 680E equivalent and the XV15/757S is better than the 681EEE, these all share basically the same body I believe.

[DaveK]

Another vote for Nagaoka from me - I have an MP30 on a Sumiko Universal headshell on a standard Techie arm and I'm very happy with it :) .
Dave.

[freefallrob]

Ortofon 2M Blue was my favourite in a standard SL1210Mk2 arm.

[kininigin]

I only tried a couple of carts in the standard arm.One of the carts was a Nagaoka MP110,worked well for me.

[Macca]

I only tried a couple of carts in the standard arm.One of the carts was a Nagaoka MP110,worked well for me.

I am currently using an MP11 (the older version of the 110) and it is a superb budget option for this deck/arm. Good bass, very musical. The very top end is a bit perfunctory but nothing you can argue with at the price. The more expensive Nags should sound awesome.

[the engine]

Nagoaka's eh....never heard one of those either.
Thanks .I'll go hunting.

[DSJR]

The UK market is tiny and the older MP Nagaoka's were judged far too highly compliant and capacitance sensitive for general use in a market increasingly dominated by Ortofon.

Alex's MP15 and MP30? sound very good in either the heavier Technics SL1500 arm and his SME "Improved" arm with detachable headshell (Sumiko shell).

[Fulci]

Has anyone compared a Nagaoka MP110 with an AT440 MLa and either of these with a DL110?

I can get a Nagaoka for about half the Audio Technica, and the Denon for just a little bit more. I was going for the AT, but now having found the MP110 for such a great price, I thinking taking another route... What do you recommend?

[nickbaba]

My old Denon DL-110 always sounded great on my stock Techie arm.
So does my current cart, DynaVector DV-20X (but you will need a Moving Coil Phono-Pre for that - won't work into a standard MM/DJ mixer phono input).

[Floyddroid]

The Nagoaka MP11 & MP30 are both excellent sounding cartridges. However, On my son's 1210 the clearance of the cartridge body is very fine indeed even with the arm well out of the arm pillar and angled at about 15 degee. This can sometimes be heard as the slightest of warps can fowl on the cartridge body. I intend to sound out the Grado range of cartridges when i acqiure a 1500 in the coming weeks. I have heard some very good things about them. I will keep you posted.

[budlark]

I have the 2M Black on stock arm with KAB fluid damper and it has sounded great. I'm sure I can get more out of it with the stock arm if I look at compliance figures more. I keep reading that compliance is pretty important in respect of arms and carts. You'll probably know that the stock arm is on the lightish side therefore matching with a cart that is known to be better matched to a lightish - medium weight arm would likely work well, others will know more about all that than me :)
Hi, Robert!
You use what level of oil for 2М Black (1\3,1\2 …)?
Yours, Sergey

[RobbieGong]

Hi, Robert!
You use what level of oil for 2М Black (1\3,1\2 …)?
Yours, Sergey

Hi Sergey, Trough is half full as recommended. I have read and believe to go over half is overdoing it ;)

[budlark]

Hi Sergey, Trough is half full as recommended. I have read and believe to go over half is overdoing it ;)
Hi Robert, I have too half (began with 1\3) I am afraid more, though bought 2 syringes...

[nickbaba]

I had my trough 1/2 filled at first, but ended up removing some of the fluid.
The sound was over-damped to my ears, it sounded "thick" and was on the edge of being muffled... probably due to a loss of top end frequencies. After removing some fluid to a depth of about 1/3 I have been much happier with the sound.