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bong
31-01-2009, 03:14
Hi folks,

sorry for the lack of participation so far, but I've been busy away 1) setting up and enjoying my new KAB1200mk2/at33ptg and 2) sorting out a new job. So finally, the missus and I have managed to head to tokyo for a break.

Here, I've managed to find quite a good deal on the AT33R cart that I was wondering if any of you would be keen on. (not too sure whether to post this here or at the private exhibition forum) Like the AT33PTG, it's a cart that's only meant for the japanese domestic market, and not as easily found out of Japan compared to the 103s. The AT33R (i think the R stands for Reference, like the 103R) is discontinued and I guess these are the remaining stocks being retailed.

Here's a stock image of the cart (it comes with its own headshell).
http://www.audio-technica.co.jp/products/cartridge/image/mc/33r.jpg

since I'm in tokyo, I'm just checking if any of you were keen for me to grab one of these brand new and not used for you. It normally retails on ebay for about US$820 or more, and on audiocubes2 (http://www.audiocubes2.com/category/Cartridges/product/Audio-Technica_AT33R_Limited_Edition_MC_type_Stereo_Cart ridge.html) for US$ 899 before shipping. I've managed to find one here for 55000yen, or US$614/GBP429 according to the current rate on oanda.com.

I'm in tokyo till 10th Feb, but i'm not too sure how long this deal will go on for.
You can either leave a note in this thread or PM me, and we can work out details if you're keen. I'm expecting postage to be about GBP20 or less via DHL (i got the quote recently for shipping the denon au-300lc step up to the UK, and the cart is in a box of similar size) and should get to you in 2-3 working days.

I'm not related to Audio technica or any japanese retailer in any way, and am just passing this savings on to any of you who would like to give this cart a go. I've already grabbed one for myself to try on my deck back home, and would gladly pick one up for any of you if you're keen. fortunately carts are really space/weight friendly, and so the missus wouldn't have a problem with me stuffing one more into my bags. :eyebrows:

let me know!

Marco - keen to veer away from your 103s and give this a go? :cool:

Dave Cawley
31-01-2009, 08:24
What if Marco liked it ??

Dave

Marco
31-01-2009, 08:40
Then, as I'm a highly regarded audio icon people would order them in their 100s, as they have with the 103s and 1210s I've recommended :lolsign:

;)

Bong,

Nice offer and I appreciate the gesture. However it looks like what you have there is a version of the AT33PTG in a fancier body shell (it looks almost identical), which I've already owned and enjoyed, but preferred the 103R, and certainly also the Pro and 'SA'.

It's a very good cartridge, though, and I'm sure someone will take you up on the offer. To help this happen I'll temporarily transfer this thread to the Blank Canvas and make it into a sticky so that everyone sees it. I may even make it into an announcement later and provide your email address for contact if that's ok with you - that way you'll get the interest of other people who aren't members of the forum.

How much is the headshell on its own? It might be worth your while grabbing a few of those for people using 103s. I'm sure you'd end up selling them no problem, and I'd even give you a dedicated space on the forum to do just that :)

Enjoy your holiday in Tokyo - you lucky bugger! :cool:

Marco.

bong
31-01-2009, 14:07
hey marco,

thanks for the generous stickied space!

though I'm here till the 10th, I may not be able to run down to the electronics store every day, and I'm not too sure how long stocks will last for. I've only picked up one for myself, and got another one on hold till Tuesday, after which, it goes back into the display rack.

so what I can do is to wait a couple of days and gather the replies, and pop down to see what they have left, and if the special is still on. In the event that demand outstrips supply, I'll allocate according to the order of reply; early bird and all. for those who're interested, i guess it's easier to keep track of this by just leaving a note in this thread. once i confirm the quantity, i'll contact each one individually then.

i'm using the at33ptg right now, and i must say that i enjoy the AT's sound as much as I do the 103s, having used the 103 and 103R. I don't think it's fair to compare head on as the two sounds are quite different. So the 2-3 carts will be on rotation on my 1200, depending on the music and my mood ( BIG nod to removable headshells!) how similar or different the 33ptg is to the 33r can be a LONG discussion on its own, but I guess there's a reason that audio technica put the 33R as their top of the line reference cart, above the EV and the PTG, and I can't wait to hear it for myself, especially at about the same price as the EV! :)

as for the headshell, I think the one in the picture is exclusive to the 33R. however, I can pick up some of the AT-LH13/15/18 headshells if anyone wants it. I think Marco's mentioned his experience with the AT-LH18 (18g) headshell on a different thread, and I've seen that in the shops for 5850yen, about US$66, vs US$99 on audiocubes. The LH13 and 15 are a bit cheaper. If there's anyone who wants these, let me know, and I might just grab a couple of them.

finally, if anyone's looking for the denon au-300lc stepups, i can look out for them too. small items are ok, but anything bigger than the 300lc is going to get be a very bad nagging from the missus. ;)

that's it for now then. i'll try and put up some actual pictures of the 33R shortly. just need to transfer them over from my camera.

bong
31-01-2009, 14:11
pictures time!

the 33R unboxed from its blue box and silver 'Reference' label. the original price tag reads 64000 yen!
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0540.jpg

A closer look in the box. The sales person tossed in the actual retail tag without realising it. But with a bit of bargaining, i managed to get it down to 55000. :)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0550.jpg

finally, a macro shot (my little camera's macro mode is pushed to its limits!) of the 4 terminals and the cantilever. nice and clean!
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0546.jpg

p.s. a picture of the at-lh18 headshell, so you have a point of reference.
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/37952/1h/image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/j/komamono_at-lh18-occ

for whomever's keen, i'm happy to send over this exact cart in the pictures, (with the retail tag if you so desire ;)) so you get to see exactly what you're getting.

i'll continue to post updates as i get'em!

Peter Stockwell
31-01-2009, 14:52
Kelvin,

So wierd. I almost want one, just for the craigh, I'm on weekend in Barcelona. Just looking over the thread with my iPod touch!

Good luck with your treasure hunt!

bong
31-01-2009, 23:14
hi Peter,

weekend in barcelona! the envy ... :)

anyway, do drop a note if you do want one.

I must say that i've been wandering around hong kong and tokyo for audio goods, and tokyo really gets my pick for the most interesting place for discoveries. the japanese really take fantastic care of their gear, and the 2nd hand market has some gear in very good condition for a steal. pity that most of these are way too heavy and will require some kind of commercial courier that wipes out any savings. ;)

what i do try to pack as much as i can in, are used records. like anything else, they're in fantastic condition, and great value. only thing is, once you get more than 10, they weight a ton and are relatively fragile.

will post more pictures if i can find anything interesting.

Mike
01-02-2009, 07:38
It's an interesting looking cartridge Kelvin, do let us know how it compares with the PTG. :)

My own PTG is sitting in it's box with no arm to play with ATM. :(

bong
01-02-2009, 11:47
i definitely will, as soon as i get back home on the 10th. till then, i can only continue to admire it in its box. ;) the sushi here is amazing .. and i just went mad with a vinyl shopping outburst. i'm a jazzhead, and will try and share some of my buys today if i can get around to taking pictures of them. this is turning into a tokyo audio shopping thread!

Marco
01-02-2009, 11:51
And it's great to read, Kelvin - keep it coming, preferably with lots of pictures of hi-fi exotica inside emporiums in Tokyo. Let's see some toys! :cool:

Marco.

bong
01-02-2009, 11:55
unfortunately, photography is not really encouraged inside shops ... they are still pretty traditional about these things here, and i guess to some, pictures inside shops = commercial secrets. ;) so i can only try and sneak a picture here and there from the outside.

Marco
01-02-2009, 11:57
Ok, window displays will do! :eyebrows:

Marco.

DSJR
01-02-2009, 12:25
A real shame the UK/$ exchange rate is so bad right now, especially for people like me without loads of disposeable income :(

bong
01-02-2009, 12:27
A real shame the UK/$ exchange rate is so bad right now, especially for people like me without loads of disposeable income :(

yeah .. everything is falling to bits against the yen. i too, have limited disposable income, but that's where deals like these are really valuable. i enjoy scouring the shops to find that elusive bargain. get my kicks from it. :eyebrows:

DSJR
01-02-2009, 12:34
Hows about a good used AT440ML or MLa from anyone with one kicking around in a drawer somewhere? Can't afford a new one, even at "trade" (sorry Mr Cawley) and my current arm will only take high compliance mm's...

bong
01-02-2009, 12:46
as promised, spoils of the day. :D

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0577.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0578.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0580.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll258/konglip/IMG_0579.jpg

not bad for a day's work, I reckon. the vinyl still looks minty, though used. and this whole lot for less than 100GBP!

bong
08-02-2009, 14:43
trip's coming to an end ... with tomorrow being the last practical day to get any browsing/shopping done...

the weather's been too crazy to get any kind of outdoor photography done, but i've managed to sneak in a couple of shops in the audio section of one of the bigger chain electronic stores ... see if you can make out what items they are... apologies if some of them are a bit blur; I was trying to take these without the enthusiastic sales folk noticing me. :lolsign:

two lots of tube amps .. with asian brands like audiospace, cayin, spark and tri leading the charge
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3518/3257871912_5727ff4a04.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3257871756_57913bffce.jpg?v=0

tables galore!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/3257042553_971e70367c.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3257871362_62df97e375.jpg?v=0

of course, raw tube pron ... :eyebrows:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3515/3257871576_8ab24709e7.jpg?v=0


finally, speakers galore, and the metal boxes that drive them...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3257042201_971028d59d.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3257871108_dd1225aeaa.jpg?v=0

Mike
08-02-2009, 15:11
If you see any copper plate 845 tubes going cheap I'll have a pair please! :)

bong
08-02-2009, 15:13
i'll try my best, but i may not have time to make another run down to the store ... will see what i can do tomorrow. also, the yen's currently killing just about every other currency, so cheap's going to be really rare. ;)

Mike
08-02-2009, 16:30
Don't worry about it... Just a random thought TBH. ;)

bong
09-02-2009, 12:23
Folks,

i'll be leaving tokyo early tomorrow morning, and i didn't pick up any extra carts, since I didn't hear from any of you folks.

what I did was pick up a couple of onzow zerodust stylus cleaners, a real favourite of mine for getting the gunk off my stylus.

http://www.music-on-vinyl.de/product_image.php?imageid=190

for those not familiar with it, you can read more about it from the usual online sellers
elusive disc (http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ZERODUST), Acoustic Sounds (http://store.acousticsounds.com/browse_detail.cfm?Title_ID=9925), the Needle Doctor (http://www.needledoctor.com/Onzow-Zerodust) and Music Direct (http://www.musicdirect.com/product/74632)

I was planning to drop them off at my mate's audio shop, for him to offer'em, as they are not commonly found. but if any of you are interested, let me know and I can send'em over to you (it's a tiny item, so postage should be minimal. I'll check when there's interest)

Marco
09-02-2009, 12:43
How much are they, Kelvin?

Marco.

bong
09-02-2009, 12:56
ahh .. i forgot to include the price. at today's rate, they cost about 20 quid each, excluding P&P.

Marco
09-02-2009, 13:51
Get me one then, mate :)

Marco.

bong
09-02-2009, 14:06
sure. as i said, i've got a couple spare. PM me your addy and i'll check out shipping charges once I get back. I'll ship it out in a small bubble envelope, so it should arrive nice and cosy. :)

The Grand Wazoo
15-02-2009, 00:53
Regarding the Zerodust, may I direct you gents to the following:

Caption Competition Results
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1660

In which I told the lucky, lucky folks that were the winners the following:

As I said, the prize would be turntable related and almost worthless!!

So, in order to reward your undoubted skill and judgement, Iíve picked out for you some of the highest quality (& lowest value) items on the market today for discerning the turntablista such as yourself!!

YOU WILL NO DOUBT ALREADY HAVE FOUND A SMALL BAG, on which is written the word ĎTOYSí. ....................

Contained within this small packet of joy, however,.......... is, in fact, one of the best stylus cleaners that money can buy!! (In truth, theyíre so cheap that you hardly need money to buy them!).
THIS IS THE STICKY HAND!!!!
It is functionally identical to the Zerodust stylus cleaner, which currently retails at US$70 (I couldnít find a current UK price, but the last time I looked, it was ~ £30).
IT COST ME UNDER 20 PENCE Ė INC. POSTAGE FROM THE USA!!!

Keep it in an airtight container, so it doesnít dry out or collect non-hi-fi dust & itíll last you for years.
What I do is I cut it up into smaller pieces & stick one piece to a coin Ė itís pretty sticky (as suggested by the name) so you donít need glue. Put the other pieces somewhere safe & airtight too.

To use it, just place it on the platter & lower the stylus into the gel & then raise it again, repeat as necessary.

- It really is as good as the $70 version.
- If you donít have a turntable, then now is the time to buy one!!
- If you donít want to buy a TT then you can use the sticky hand to grab stuff from table tops or stick to peoples foreheads by stretching it & letting go like a catapult! (Donít play with it if youíre going to clean your stylus, as it picks up dirt like you wouldnít believe).


I also invited folks to report on their findings & offered one more set of prizes to another Art of Soundero. My offer has yet to be taken up................