220v tube amps from China

[Giubanix]

Just wondering if anyone has run into reliability issues or towering infernos using any of the tube amps, headphone amps or tube buffers from China. Despite the descriptions generally stating 220-240v, a zoom in on the back of the amp usually shows "220v" written beside the mains socket.

I must admit I'm quite tempted by some of these, but not if they're going to run so hot they need a fan blowing on them, or they're guaranteed to burn out within a year.

In the same kind of price range, there's other stuff like the Mr Nixie mini tube amp, made in Germany and powered by by what looks to be a little ac/dc smps. Safe and EU approved no doubt, but not as sexy looking as the Chinese amps. Also the Carot One Ernestolo. Again, it won't burn your house down, but it's unimpressively teensy weensy and cute. :carrot:

[Reid Malenfant]

A few on here have had hard luck stories unfortunately.

All you need is a Variac or bucking transformer to lower the UK voltage which averages 240V to 220V :)

[Giubanix]

I kind of guessed that would be the case. Factor in shipping and variac and the better looking Chinese amps perhaps aren't that big a saving over the cheaper western built gear. Plus, if the parts used are ok, but the way they've been put together isn't up to standard, maybe the potential lack of reliabilty isn't worth saving a little money initially.

[Reid Malenfant]

You don't need a variac, a bucking transformer would be much cheaper.

You'd need some kind of 18V or 22V transformer that has the same secondary current as the amplifier draws. So if the amp draws 1Amp then a 25VA transformer will be sufficient ;)

[Giubanix]

You don't need a variac, a bucking transformer would be much cheaper.

You'd need some kind of 18V or 22V transformer that has the same secondary current as the amplifier draws. So if the amp draws 1Amp then a 25VA transformer will be sufficient ;)

OK, I'll do a bit of Googling about that. Being more of a plug it in and use it kinda guy, rather than a tweaker, what you said mostly went over my head. But thanks for the info. :)

[Barry]

This (http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_9/5.html) might be of help Ian.

[Yiangos]

Personally never had any experience with Chinese amps but i've heard lots of stories of not only reliability issues but also of valves next to impossible to obtain if one fails.

[Marco]

Hi Ian,


OK, I'll do a bit of Googling about that.

Also use the search facility here, as there have been a number of discussions on this already ;)

Marco.

[Giubanix]

This (http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_9/5.html) might be of help Ian.

Thanks for the link. ;)

[Ali Tait]

If you do some research you can end up with a very good Chinese amp. Having tried several in the past, some are built to high standards. Probably the best I've had in that respect was the Mr Liang 845 SE, 50kg of battleship build for a ridiculous price at the time. Very good sounding too. You can still import one from them directly, from here-

http://www.lsyx.com/en/index.asp

I know someone who imported one last year for £750 including shipping, an absolute bargain for a 300b driven 845 output single ended amp. I once demoed mine against 4 grands worth of Unison Research 845, and it walked all over it.

No worries with the mains trannies on these, they are properly specced, and the output trannies are made by Liang in-house and are excellent quality.

The only downside with these amps are their physical size and weight, you need to have room and a strong back to lift one!

You can read a review here-

http://www.affordableaudio.org/aa2010-09.pdf

[Ali Tait]

Whoops, forgot to say they are now called Audio Rennaissence.

[Rare Bird]

Ive used a chinese tube DAC as an headphone unit from my laptop every night for a couple of years now, no probs so far!

[Giubanix]

The only downside with these amps are their physical size and weight, you need to have room and a strong back to lift one!


Room is something I ran out of a long time ago :scratch::scratch:. I'm currently debating what I can get rid of in order to cram some new things in. Trying to avoid ending up on one of these OCD hoarder reality tv programmes.

[Ali Tait]

Aye, know the feeling!

I really would recommend one of these amps if you can fit one in BTW, they are truly superb.

[Jonboy]

OCD hoarder

Welcome to my world :mental:

[Reid Malenfant]

Welcome to my world :mental:
Mine to, you're not alone Jon :rolleyes:

[spendorman]

A few years ago I bought a Chinese EL34 Single ended amp, also called a headphone amp, never been any problem apart from the cosmetic damage (chassis slightly bent) caused by shipping.

[Rare Bird]

I remember you buying that, whats it like on headphone duty?

[spendorman]

I remember you buying that, whats it like on headphone duty?

It's fine for headphone amp, pretty good through speakers too, if they are fairly efficient. The Tannoy HPD315's on them are not bad.

[walpurgis]

I've had Chinese built valve amps from VTL and Arcana and had no bother during several years use. They sounded pretty good too. Not had any bother with my Chinese Tripath stuff either. Geoff.