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Thought i had a new job lined up but told today they found some young aussie guy with better qualifications. The head team member was my old boss/mate who put in a good word and its a job position which i have a good track record for. Gutted and shocked that i cant get a position that has my name written all over. Sound familiar anyone?
Reid Malenfant
30-05-2012, 21:14
Sound familiar anyone?
While I don't wish to provoke any arguements, it sounds like the foreigner may well be payed less - so got the job :rolleyes:
It's happening all over...
Though I could be wrong, in which case I'd love to know why like yourself Colin :)
Ah, just hit on the age thing, but that ties in with the pay thing to...
Yes, Colin it does.
In the U.S. it is not legal to base your hiring on age that would be discrimination.
It is not ok to say I want a younger person in that position.
It is however ok to say (KEY WORD) I want some one with young energy in that position.
When exactly did the world go upside down inside out and arsbackwards any way?
I don't know about the U.K. but things are pretty screwed up over here,my only hope is that they will continue in the same direction long enough to come full circle at normal and sane again.Can things become so screwed that a country rights it's self?
WOStantonCS100
31-05-2012, 00:10
One can only hope, Jeff, one can only hope.
However, I'm hedging my bets that it won't. As I age, I am intensely pursuing more and more opportunities to be my own boss. That presents it's own very real challenges. But, when it works out, at least no one can "age me out" of anything. Especially, since I'll most likely have to work until I drop. :lol: :scratch: :(
bogle111
05-06-2012, 00:22
As I age, I am intensely pursuing more and more opportunities to be my own boss. That presents it's own very real challenges. But, when it works out, at least no one can "age me out" of anything. Especially, since I'll most likely have to work until I drop. :lol: :scratch: :(
Do it, do it, do it. We doubled our work area about 3 years ago and I thought I had made a big blunder, having set one company up in 1997. I have just turned 63 and will be working till I drop, with my private pension being near worthless. Two of our main competitors have gone and we are picking up more business now than ever - average +18%p.a. over the last three years, we are in the black at the bank and own all our own equipment. The guys with me will have the chance to buy the business at a very, very good price, and in that way they are working for their own future.
We have been very lucky, but we do work hard and long. In real terms we are probably working harder for less, but we are working and we are in control of our business so far. I listen to more music at work than I do at home.
Do it while you can. Just get your Business Plan SWOT analysis and Market Research right. Small businesses are the future at present. (That sounds cock-eyed I know, but I think you get the drift.)
We think we make quality, but the important thing is we make - manufacture. People will still pay for quality and a use-able, meaningful warranty.
Regards & Good luck;)
Pete
WOStantonCS100
05-06-2012, 01:24
Do it, do it, do it. We doubled our work area about 3 years ago and I thought I had made a big blunder, having set one company up in 1997. I have just turned 63 and will be working till I drop, with my private pension being near worthless. Two of our main competitors have gone and we are picking up more business now than ever - average +18%p.a. over the last three years, we are in the black at the bank and own all our own equipment. The guys with me will have the chance to buy the business at a very, very good price, and in that way they are working for their own future.
We have been very lucky, but we do work hard and long. In real terms we are probably working harder for less, but we are working and we are in control of our business so far. I listen to more music at work than I do at home.
Do it while you can. Just get your Business Plan SWOT analysis and Market Research right. Small businesses are the future at present. (That sounds cock-eyed I know, but I think you get the drift.)
We think we make quality, but the important thing is we make - manufacture. People will still pay for quality and a use-able, meaningful warranty.
Regards & Good luck;)
Pete
:yesbruv:
Doing it, doing it, doing it. I wish I could say it was more by choice rather than as a matter of survival; but, it just has to be this way. Extra points are retained for doing something(s) I truly enjoy doing.
bogle111
05-06-2012, 09:27
:yesbruv:
Doing it, doing it, doing it. I wish I could say it was more by choice rather than as a matter of survival; but, it just has to be this way. Extra points are retained for doing something(s) I truly enjoy doing.
Good. I also forgot to mention, Adaptability & "Being like a loose woman" - trying not to say no to a customer:eyebrows: - if we can't, I know someone that can.
With my accent, I stand out like a sore thumb round here, but no one minds now as they can see I am here to stay and we pay our bills fast. Try and get something that people will remember you by. (I am not suggesting wearing women's dresses or anything like that, but maybe a crazy logo etc..)
May I be so bold as to what line you are going in.
Mr Moderator, this is not an ad, we are too busy, but as an example. This website is by no way complete as we have very little time.
http://wzeu.search-results.com/r?t=p&d=apn&s=zuk&c=a&app=aoth&l=dis&o=1921&sv=0a652921&ip=5698e432&id=E65BF2E52C881DFFD6FDCC4BC2CA87B2&q=signshop-wales&p=1&qs=121&ac=660&g=30d9Pv9iVJOZCB&cu.wz=0&en=gs&io=0&ep=&eo=&b=a001&bc=&br=&tp=d&ec=10&pt=signshop-wales.com&ex=&url=&u=http://www.signshop-wales.com/
Apologies for going off topic Colin, but I was wandering in the dark for a couple of years when I left the Hi Fi industry. Then I found something I wanted to do - Design and Slate - I never envisaged what we have now. I guess "thinking out of the box" has helped us. If there is any way we can help, just PM me.
Regards
Pete
StanleyB
05-06-2012, 09:37
Judging a new employee on better qualification rather than better experience is a sure fire recipe for disaster. I have had to deal with that problem from both ends of the interview desk. In my last job my bosses decided to hire a more senior manager and then a director in order to do the top end side of the job, where it was felt I had no qualifications in some aspects of my work. As it turned out those better qualified guys were forever asking me how to do their job. I had the experience that they lacked :rolleyes:.
Judging a new employee on better qualification rather than better experience is a sure fire recipe for disaster. :.
Sadly it is becoming more and more of a problem, especially with big companies. There has been an explosion in the amount of mickey mouse courses and supposedly professional qualifications in practically every area of business - I have worked with people who have 'qualifications' in Customer Service ffs! Some of these things actually give you letters after your name as though you were a chartered accountant or a doctor. Of course you have to pay a yearly membership fee in order to have the right to use them - what a scam!
Ive decided i want a change of career, if thats possible at the age of 46.
I had to get my automatic watch serviced recently and found it surprisingly difficult to source a good horologist. I eventually found one on a recommendation from a customer in Hatton Garden and to be frank the service was rubbish.
I have a bit of a watch obsession and im looking into training in the area. There might be a recession on but the luxury market seems unaffected.
Having a skill that you can turn into a personal business is always something i have dreamed of and working for other people just gets worse the older i become.
I am getting to the point where it really isn't worth the grief of getting on the recruitment merry-go-round because the trend seems to be for hiring pretty young things who seem to know jack shit about REAL marketing.
While I have no issues at all about the better candidate getting the job, it makes my blood boil to watch from the sidelines the appalling quality of marketing that is being unleashed by these inept and incompetent clowns who think the be-all and end-all is a website driven on by "search engine optimisation". Watching advertisements on the TV or listening on the radio makes me cringe because of that lack of basics.
Why is it that employers think your brains have leaked into your incontinence pants once you have passed the age of 45? :steam:
Reading the G2 in the guardian today there is a 3 page spread on people changing career at 60. Im in awe at their courage to be honest and some what ashamed i didnt get of my ass and do something about this when i knew it was coming.
Colin good to here about the change in direction, its really tough at present. Just keep going for it
Reading the G2 in the guardian today there is a 3 page spread on people changing career at 60. Im in awe at their courage to be honest and some what ashamed i didnt get of my ass and do something about this when i knew it was coming.
I changed career at the age of 57. Mind you it was forced on me as I was made redundant in Jan. I thought it was going to happen last year and so registered with some agencies. I had sat behind a desk for 40 years, loved cycling and always envied the postman who I thought had a pretty good work/life balance. I registered with RM in Dec 2010. A post came up in Dec 2011 for a P/T postie, so I applied. Went back to work in the New Year, 3 days later get notice of "possible" redundancy. As I had been off with depression between Nov and NewYear, guess who I thought it would be!!!:D
Anyway you know the rest, Yes it was me and Yes I got the Postie job. Pay is poor, round is "demanding", but boy what great working day I have now....every day. My new hobby is seeking out the "value" brands in the supermarket. Oh...and I'll keep delivering as long as joints hold out!
Fantastic. I imagine your fitness levels are up to. I would be nervous about the dogs though.
Oddly enough I had a "situation" with a dog last week. Owner was frantically trying to pacify this horse of a thing (St Bernard size) and offering it a watering can to bite on instead of me!
I waited for her to offer some apology once I had got the other side of the gate, which didn't come! went and delivered to adjoining properties, came back and husband/partner was outside. Recounted the incident to him for which he apologised. Told him he would be getting a letter from the office. Next day the post recepticle was the other side of the gate...Result.
bogle111
05-06-2012, 17:55
"At age 65, (Colonel) Sanders' store having failed due to the new Interstate 75 reducing his restaurant's customer traffic, he took $105 from his first Social Security check and began visiting potential franchisees.[8]
The franchise approach was successful, and less than ten years later (in 1964) Sanders sold the Kentucky Fried Chicken corporation for $2 million to a partnership of Kentucky businessmen headed by John Y. Brown, Jr. The deal did not include the Canadian operations."
- Quoted from Wiki
Harland David Sanders: Perhaps better known as Colonel Sanders of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame, Sanders had a hard time selling his chicken at first. In fact, his famous secret chicken recipe was rejected 1,009 times before a restaurant accepted it.
Like Fried Chicken or not, you just have to get up and do it.
If you need encouragement, here is the site to do.
http://wzeu.search-results.com/r?t=p&d=apn&s=zuk&c=a&app=aoth&l=dis&o=1921&sv=0a652926&ip=5698e432&id=CF5C0BE34BFE82C1F8AF65463B60A608&q=who+failed+in+business+the+most&p=1&qs=1&ac=172&g=0f57LSs9bTvJdH&cu.wz=0&en=gs&io=0&ep=&eo=&b=a004&bc=&br=&tp=d&ec=10&pt=50%20Famously%20Successful%20People%20Who%20Fai led%20At%20First%20-%20Online%20Colleges&ex=&url=&u=http://www.onlinecollege.org/2010/02/16/50-famously-successful-people-who-failed-at-first/
Regards
Pete
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