hoopsontoast
13-05-2012, 11:45
Well first off, sorry for starting two threads, but I may be sorted short term anyway on the Phono Stage/SUT/Head amp front.
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17815
Intro
I have a DD Luxman PD-272/Luxman TA-1 (Micro Seiki designed), now with a Denon DL103 which seems to work really well.
Earlier this week my system was going straight from the CDP or Luxman/Rotel combo into the Decware Zen.
I had been using a Sure M97xE, with the Luxman TA-1 arm into a MM/MC Rotel RQ-970BX (in MM mode) which sounded OK but a bit closed in and low dynamics.
I recently purchased a lightly used DL103 on a whim, and initially it sounded quite poor, and low output using the MC input on the Rotel.
Yesterday I have the delight of listening to a local Wammers system (gthang), who has a very nice Lenco based TT with all the trimmings in a massive plywwod plinth, Jelco arm/SPU and it sounded lovely, really got me interested in spending a little more on my Vinyl replay side of the system.
I have this morning plugged the DL103 into the Rotel in MC setting, and it still sounded poor. I plugged my Sony TA-F670ES in, using it as pre amp for the sources (It has a MC/MM Phono Stage) and then pre-outs into the Zen.
It sounds Really Really good, well compared to before anyway.
As we stand atm-
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5452/7187753844_8a8904b70a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoopsontoast/7187753844/)
Luxman PD272/ DL 103 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoopsontoast/7187753844/) by hoopsontoast (http://www.flickr.com/people/hoopsontoast/), on Flickr
The Question
What kind of tweaks do you think it would be worthwile doing on the Luxman?
Gthang's TT had a nice Puresound Copper mat which may do well on my relatively lightweight platter, in fact the Puresound website has a pic of a simmilar vintage Luxman DD tt (PD-121??) with one on-
http://www.puresound.info/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/luxman.jpg
http://www.puresound.info/id2.html
The PD-272 platter only weighs 1.8kg (as much as the Copper Mat in itself)
The next port of call could be the tonearm, which is a Luxman TA-1. It was designed by Micro Seiki and is supposed to be quite good for the price. It is a medium-mass iirc around 12g which I gather should not work ideally with the DL103 but sounds quite good to me.
Specs here-
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/luxman/pd-272.shtml
Shown here on a Michell TT-
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3362/5809433732_93159947d6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8309248@N06/5809433732/)
Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference #16 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8309248@N06/5809433732/) by setpower1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8309248@N06/), on Flickr
Now, this could be improved on by possibly a re-wire?
I have a solid concrete floor so there are no vibration problems, I have it on 3 Brass feet which works quite well.
What do you think would be the best line of attack?
Thanks Rob
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17815
Intro
I have a DD Luxman PD-272/Luxman TA-1 (Micro Seiki designed), now with a Denon DL103 which seems to work really well.
Earlier this week my system was going straight from the CDP or Luxman/Rotel combo into the Decware Zen.
I had been using a Sure M97xE, with the Luxman TA-1 arm into a MM/MC Rotel RQ-970BX (in MM mode) which sounded OK but a bit closed in and low dynamics.
I recently purchased a lightly used DL103 on a whim, and initially it sounded quite poor, and low output using the MC input on the Rotel.
Yesterday I have the delight of listening to a local Wammers system (gthang), who has a very nice Lenco based TT with all the trimmings in a massive plywwod plinth, Jelco arm/SPU and it sounded lovely, really got me interested in spending a little more on my Vinyl replay side of the system.
I have this morning plugged the DL103 into the Rotel in MC setting, and it still sounded poor. I plugged my Sony TA-F670ES in, using it as pre amp for the sources (It has a MC/MM Phono Stage) and then pre-outs into the Zen.
It sounds Really Really good, well compared to before anyway.
As we stand atm-
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5452/7187753844_8a8904b70a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoopsontoast/7187753844/)
Luxman PD272/ DL 103 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoopsontoast/7187753844/) by hoopsontoast (http://www.flickr.com/people/hoopsontoast/), on Flickr
The Question
What kind of tweaks do you think it would be worthwile doing on the Luxman?
Gthang's TT had a nice Puresound Copper mat which may do well on my relatively lightweight platter, in fact the Puresound website has a pic of a simmilar vintage Luxman DD tt (PD-121??) with one on-
http://www.puresound.info/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/luxman.jpg
http://www.puresound.info/id2.html
The PD-272 platter only weighs 1.8kg (as much as the Copper Mat in itself)
The next port of call could be the tonearm, which is a Luxman TA-1. It was designed by Micro Seiki and is supposed to be quite good for the price. It is a medium-mass iirc around 12g which I gather should not work ideally with the DL103 but sounds quite good to me.
Specs here-
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/luxman/pd-272.shtml
Shown here on a Michell TT-
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3362/5809433732_93159947d6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8309248@N06/5809433732/)
Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference #16 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8309248@N06/5809433732/) by setpower1 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8309248@N06/), on Flickr
Now, this could be improved on by possibly a re-wire?
I have a solid concrete floor so there are no vibration problems, I have it on 3 Brass feet which works quite well.
What do you think would be the best line of attack?
Thanks Rob