Using iTunes to rip as ALAC

[Dr. Robert]

i was originaly ripping my cds as wav using EAC but i was then having to use seperate software to tag them then import them into itunes. any way i thought i'd give itunes a go as a ripper. i love it, put the cd in, rips it, now according to itunes using error correction, get cover art and track info. it still splits albums up for no reason but if your using remote it dont matter.
Also as a side note i could never rip street spirit from the bends, i thought my cd was shafted. itunes did it. dont believe the truth oasis would rip but no tagging program could ever get the tacks in order, an itunes rip did.
i get my mac mini tomorrow so i am very happy.:)

[Bonky]

i was originaly ripping my cds as wav using EAC but i was then having to use seperate software to tag them then import them into itunes. any way i thought i'd give itunes a go as a ripper. i love it, put the cd in, rips it, now according to itunes using error correction, get cover art and track info. it still splits albums up for no reason but if your using remote it dont matter.
Also as a side note i could never rip street spirit from the bends, i thought my cd was shafted. itunes did it. dont believe the truth oasis would rip but no tagging program could ever get the tacks in order, an itunes rip did.
i get my mac mini tomorrow so i am very happy.:)

Any possibility that this could be written in Standard English? I cannot understand it.

Sorry...

I do wonder if the mods could write a 'sticky' for 'how to write clear English'.

I despair at the poor spellings and punctuation. Mistakes always happen of course, but the meaning must be clear.

Why do so many people not know how to spell 'separate' / 'accommodation' etc. Spellcheckers?

Why are there so many people not knowing how to use the possessive apostrophe?

DVD's/ CD's/ no, no, no.

CDs, DVDs please.


If I read such poor communication skills then I , perhaps unfortunately, immediately wonder whether the poster has any real knowledge of the subject being discussed - and usually dismiss them.

Please - no flames.

BW.

Bonky.

[Darren]

All very well Bonky. But this forum encourages friendly participation not nit picking, no matter how erudite you consider yourself to be.

Give the man a break eh?

[roob]

I blame mobile phones it's text speak:D

[Bonky]

All very well Bonky. But this forum encourages friendly participation not nit picking, no matter how erudite you consider yourself to be.

Give the man a break eh?

Hi, thanks; but that's not the point . I can't understand the post. I wish for clarification, that's all.

What's wrong in expressing oneself clearly?

I am not being unfriendly - just the reverse.

It could be, that somewhere in the post, was a good point. Let's all help him/ her to express it. I too have been impressed by the general good manners of the forum members, ( although the objective/ subjective discussions have often rekindled by ire). Let's keep it that way.

BW,

Bonky.

[Welder]

Hmm, isn't this a bit like writing I can't take this man seriously because he doesn't speak with a public school accent ?

Anyway, it doesn't really matter bout the details coz itunes is rubbish. :ner:

[Stratmangler]

i was originaly ripping my cds as wav using EAC but i was then having to use seperate software to tag them then import them into itunes. any way i thought i'd give itunes a go as a ripper. i love it, put the cd in, rips it, now according to itunes using error correction, get cover art and track info. it still splits albums up for no reason but if your using remote it dont matter.
Also as a side note i could never rip street spirit from the bends, i thought my cd was shafted. itunes did it. dont believe the truth oasis would rip but no tagging program could ever get the tacks in order, an itunes rip did.
i get my mac mini tomorrow so i am very happy.:)

I too had trouble making sense of all this, but here's my take on it.

According to the thread title the OP is now using iTunes to rip CDs to ALAC files, whereas before he was using EAC to rip to WAV.
So before he was doing uncompressed rips, and now he's doing losslessly compressed rips.

There's a nonsense comment about iTunes doing error correction - yeah, right :rolleyes:

There's a bit about tagging WAV files - bit of a moot point, this one, because whilst it's now apparently possible to tag WAV files, finding a media player that can read them is another thing altogether :eyebrows:

What's this bit about iTunes splitting albums up?
Sounds like a serious tagging issue to me.
When I tried iTunes as a ripper a long time ago I had similar issues.
There are errors with tags on almost every database out on t'interweb, so you'll need a program tool to correct the errors.

The rest of it revolves around having ripping issues with a couple of CDs - the only thing I'll guarantee about the rips is that they're not accurate.
However, if they play without glitching then that's fine. It's the best you'll get without buying another copy of the CDs.

Then the OP unzips his flies and pulls out his willy and proceeds to wave it around....

Sorry, got carried away there.
Then the OP makes comment about his Mac Mini arriving sometime soon, and is pleased at the prospect :D

[Bonky]

"Hmm, isn't this a bit like writing I can't take this man seriously because he doesn't speak with a public school accent ?
"

I hope my reply did not convey that.

Thanks for the interpretation.
I thought I read somewhere that iTunes, for all its faults, IS bit perfect?


Slightly off topic I know but:

I recently ripped L Cohen's new and great album "Old Ideas" from FLAC to AIFF using Xact (I have a Mac). The loud passages were slightly distorted when played back via Audirvana+ (and iTunes) but not when played back via the Touch accessing the original FLAC file. Why should this be? Other music played back OK.

Thanks,

Dr Robert ...please join in.


BW

Bonky.

[dave2010]

I blame mobile phones it's text speak:Dinnit:lol:

[dave2010]

it still splits albums up for no reason but if your using remote it dont matter. Dr Robert

iTunes is currently OK, after a bad patch around version 10.5.1. It might not do best even now with HDCDs and CDs with pre-emphasis - but at least it won't sound bad. [I don't actually know whether it sorts these or not, but some CDs sounded horrid with 10.5.1] If you really want to check out HDCDs and CDs with pre-emphasis to be sure of getting the best results you might want to check other rippers.

You can edit the tracks in iTunes, and that might solve your split problem. Select an album, then select the first track. Using a right click, then do Get Info then select the Info tab to find the track details. You can move through the tracks with Next and Previous. You can change the details in the text boxes.

iTunes will split up albums if the details differ from one track to the next. If you want to join them together, then try to make sure the album and artist details are consistent from one track to the next. Play around, you can get the hang of it quite quickly.

Also, if you want to rename the album, do it in the Album column. Click over the album name until it becomes editable, then change it. That way all the tracks will be changed, otherwise it's a bit of a pain having to copy and paste the same album details for each track.

These instructions work for the Mac version. I've not cross checked on the PC version - but I think they're similar.

Lastly, you can search for most things in iTunes - very quick, which, as you say, avoids the need for browsing.

Good luck with the Mac Mini - let us know how you get on.

[dave2010]

I recently ripped L Cohen's new and great album "Old Ideas" from FLAC to AIFF using Xact (I have a Mac). The loud passages were slightly distorted when played back via Audirvana+ (and iTunes) but not when played back via the Touch accessing the original FLAC file. Why should this be? Other music played back OK.
Which version of iTunes? Have you upgraded to 10.5.3?

10.5.1 and a couple of other releases/minor updates around that one were totally rubbish.

Otherwise could you try converting to ALAC? I've done this and not noticed any problems.

There are fixes to allow iTunes to play FLAC, but I've not tried these myself.

[Bonky]

"Good luck with the Mac Mini - let us know how you get on."

...Yes please; I'm quite jealous.

BW

Bonky

[Gmanuk101]

There are fixes to allow iTunes to play FLAC, but I've not tried these myself.

:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

YIPEE!!!

iFLAC... lol

[dave2010]

You know, a bit of a Fluke (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28768/fluke) really.

[Dr. Robert]

I was slightly inebriated last night therefore my phrasing was some what lacking in syntactical accuracy. I apologise profusely and hope I have caused no more offence regarding the use of the English Language ;)

All I meant to say was I'm totally loving iTunes as a ripper and player. I can understand it has its critics but for me and where I am with using my PC as a transport it provides what I need.

Didn't realise this would create a two page thread.

Sorry :)

[Alex_UK]

I was slightly inebriated last night therefore my phrasing was some what lacking in syntactical accuracy.

Makes a change from "I was slightly inebriated last night and oh my God look what I've bought on eBay!!"

I used iTunes for years before moving to FLAC and I had few problems, if kit does it for you then great. :)

[shane]

Any possibility that this could be written in Standard English? I cannot understand it.

Sorry...

I do wonder if the mods could write a 'sticky' for 'how to write clear English'.

I despair at the poor spellings and punctuation. Mistakes always happen of course, but the meaning must be clear.

Why do so many people not know how to spell 'separate' / 'accommodation' etc. Spellcheckers?

Why are there so many people not knowing how to use the possessive apostrophe?

DVD's/ CD's/ no, no, no.

CDs, DVDs please.


If I read such poor communication skills then I , perhaps unfortunately, immediately wonder whether the poster has any real knowledge of the subject being discussed - and usually dismiss them.

Please - no flames.

BW.

Bonky.

OK, basically I agree with you, my own pet-hate being people who who insist that they have "intergrated" amplifiers, but there are many on this forum for whom English is a second language, a number of others who suffer from dyslexia, and many who had the misfortune to be educated in the sixties, seventies and eighties, who therefore had little exposure to correct teaching of English grammar. Should they be discouraged from posting? There wouldn't be much left to read!

Incidentally, you might want to check you own post for errors in grammar and punctuation... :lol:

[bobbasrah]

Incidentally, you might want to check you own post for errors in grammar and punctuation... :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

PS - It is that DUH moment when you empty the U-bend down the sink from which it was just removed...

[shane]

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

PS - It is that DUH moment when you empty the U-bend down the sink from which it was just removed...

D'oh! finger-fault...

[Hoffer]

There are fixes to allow iTunes to play FLAC, but I've not tried these myself.


If you have a Mac, check out Pure Music by Channel D. It's not cheap, but it works wonders with iTunes, including the ability to use FLAC. Works with the Remote app too.

[dave2010]

Makes a change from "I was slightly inebriated last night and oh my God look what I've bought on eBay!!"
Maybe I'll own up to this in a week or so. I haven't even been drinking!

Might turn me into an eBay seller though as I try to offload stuff. Never quite figured out how to do selling. Do I need to change my PayPal account?

[Bonky]

Which version of iTunes? Have you upgraded to 10.5.3?

10.5.1 and a couple of other releases/minor updates around that one were totally rubbish.

Otherwise could you try converting to ALAC? I've done this and not noticed any problems.

There are fixes to allow iTunes to play FLAC, but I've not tried these myself.
Hi, thanks. I'll try it. Yes, my version of iTunes is the latest one.
BW
Bonky

[Bonky]

I was slightly inebriated last night therefore my phrasing was some what lacking in syntactical accuracy. I apologise profusely and hope I have caused no more offence regarding the use of the English Language ;)

All I meant to say was I'm totally loving iTunes as a ripper and player. I can understand it has its critics but for me and where I am with using my PC as a transport it provides what I need.

Didn't realise this would create a two page thread.

Sorry :)

Hi, thanks for that. I think we have all done something very similar. I do find a few pints at the keyboard tends to loosen inhibitions myself.

How are you getting on with the Mac Mini?


BW

Bonky.

[Bonky]

OK, basically I agree with you, my own pet-hate being people who who insist that they have "intergrated" amplifiers, but there are many on this forum for whom English is a second language, a number of others who suffer from dyslexia, and many who had the misfortune to be educated in the sixties, seventies and eighties, who therefore had little exposure to correct teaching of English grammar. Should they be discouraged from posting? There wouldn't be much left to read!

Incidentally, you might want to check you own post for errors in grammar and punctuation... :lol:

Hi, thanks for the reply. I can usually tell if someone has dyslexia or other learning difficulties - but I agree, if we discouraged everyone who couldn't get an "A" at "A" level English then the cupboard would be bare.

I'm unaware of any SPaG errors in my original post - but please point them out. This is the problem of course, of criticising someone's English - one opens oneself up to the smallest criticism of one's own, (as I think someone else pointed out ).

Incidentally, did you mean "... you MAY want to check..."? ('May' for the future tense, 'might' for the past)? (Very pedantic of me - and meant in jest).

Let's get back to the real issues of SQ.

BW to all,

Bonky

[accuphaseman]

If you have a Mac, check out Pure Music by Channel D. It's not cheap, but it works wonders with iTunes, including the ability to use FLAC. Works with the Remote app too.

Hi, One question if I may.How do you get the Flacs into Itunes.

Andy

[seoirse2002]

yes,and whats the program to make itunes play flacs?
:cool:

[Stratmangler]

Does anyone here ever use Google?

[seoirse2002]

erm...yes
But isn't it nice to be a member of a forum where one can ask for help from people who already have the experience,and its more personal too,in fact I thought this was the whole idea?
I have already left certain forums that were full of old-school, traditionalist, stuck-up, pinky raising, exclusionary, elitist,know it all,but divulge nothing members,that didnt help the less informed among us,and remained within their own cliques with their private meaningless jokes and constant oneupmanship regarding their systems.
Now there woulden't be any of that here now, would there?:cool:

[Stratmangler]

There's also a search function on this forum :)

[seoirse2002]

thanks Chris...Ill have a search:cool:

[Werner Berghofer]

George,


But isn't it nice to be a member of a forum where one can ask for help from people who already have the experience,and its more personal too,in fact I thought this was the whole idea?

I completely agree with your statement, but this certain utility already has been mentioned in this thread: It’s called Fluke (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/28768/fluke).

Allow me just one question: Why do you prefer FLAC instead of ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Encoder)? FLAC doesn’t sound better or different than ALAC, and ALAC is fully supported by any piece of Apple hard- and software. And yes, ALAC has been released to the Public Domain and is a completely free, open specification.

Werner.

[seoirse2002]

I dont necessarily prefer flac over alac,but I have a lot of stuff already ripped to Flac and dont want to start again...lately Ive been ripping apple lossless into itunes and I keep the flacs in media monkey,both of which can be played on the newly acquired SBT...I dont have a mac,I have a pc...64bit win 7 workstation,so I dont think fluke works with pc...Ill check it out though...and thanks for the help
GT

[Stratmangler]

Foobar2000 can cope with both FLAC and ALAC :)
And it can be remote controlled.
Why anyone would want to bugger about with it when they have a Squeezebox Touch is beyond me :mental:

[twelvebears]

All very well Bonky. But this forum encourages friendly participation not nit picking, no matter how erudite you consider yourself to be.

Give the man a break eh?

Yeah Bonky, if you can't be polite, why don't you 'do one' yourself.

The mods and the rest of us don't have an issue with poor, keyboard or even (as you so rudely say) poor English, but we do with people just being rude.

:ner:

[twelvebears]

I too had trouble making sense of all this, but here's my take on it.

According to the thread title the OP is now using iTunes to rip CDs to ALAC files, whereas before he was using EAC to rip to WAV.
So before he was doing uncompressed rips, and now he's doing losslessly compressed rips.

There's a nonsense comment about iTunes doing error correction - yeah, right :rolleyes:

There's a bit about tagging WAV files - bit of a moot point, this one, because whilst it's now apparently possible to tag WAV files, finding a media player that can read them is another thing altogether :eyebrows:

What's this bit about iTunes splitting albums up?
Sounds like a serious tagging issue to me.
When I tried iTunes as a ripper a long time ago I had similar issues.
There are errors with tags on almost every database out on t'interweb, so you'll need a program tool to correct the errors.

The rest of it revolves around having ripping issues with a couple of CDs - the only thing I'll guarantee about the rips is that they're not accurate.
However, if they play without glitching then that's fine. It's the best you'll get without buying another copy of the CDs.

Then the OP unzips his flies and pulls out his willy and proceeds to wave it around....

Sorry, got carried away there.
Then the OP makes comment about his Mac Mini arriving sometime soon, and is pleased at the prospect :D

*snigger* :clapclapclap:

[twelvebears]

I was slightly inebriated last night therefore my phrasing was some what lacking in syntactical accuracy. I apologise profusely and hope I have caused no more offence regarding the use of the English Language ;)

All I meant to say was I'm totally loving iTunes as a ripper and player. I can understand it has its critics but for me and where I am with using my PC as a transport it provides what I need.

Didn't realise this would create a two page thread.

Sorry :)

Wondrous how a little of the laughing juice can made a clearly intelligent, articulate chap to forget the existence of punctuation and capital letters. :)

[twelvebears]

Allow me just one question: Why do you prefer FLAC instead of ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Encoder)? FLAC doesn’t sound better or different than ALAC, and ALAC is fully supported by any piece of Apple hard- and software. And yes, ALAC has been released to the Public Domain and is a completely free, open specification.

Interesting you you should make this comment Werner.

I went into 'Angry of Hemel Hempstead' mode after an author of an article in HiFi+ marked ALAC down on SQ compared to other lossless formats without a word of explanation or justification.

Alan Sircom replied saying he was also puzzled and that he wished it had just been a typo given the amount of e-mails it had prompted. :doh:

[AlfaGTV]

Interesting you you should make this comment Werner.

I went into 'Angry of Hemel Hempstead' mode after an author of an article in HiFi+ marked ALAC down on SQ compared to other lossless formats without a word of explanation or justification.

Alan Sircom replied saying he was also puzzled and that he wished it had just been a typo given the amount of e-mails it had prompted. :doh:

:lol::lol:
Me too, I got all carried away and mailed to the editor!
And, unsuspectedly, they published it in the lates issue... :stalks:

Well, to comment on topic, i to prefer to use XLD or EAC or similar for ripping, but i am really fond of iTunes as a browser for my music collection. I does what it should, rarely messes things up and provides some very very good audio output when doped up on Amarra! :eek:

And to my ears, nothing beats AIFF as an audio carrier... (Yes, you may argue that WAV is just as good, but the damned shite dont carry tags?)

BR /Mike

[Bonky]

Yeah Bonky, if you can't be polite, why don't you 'do one' yourself.

The mods and the rest of us don't have an issue with poor, keyboard or even (as you so rudely say) poor English, but we do with people just being rude.

:ner:

MMM.... I thought this was done and dusted. Why raise the stakes now?

When you say 'do one yourself', what do you mean?

I too cannot stand rudeness, and your (unnecessary) 'contribution' smacks of that.

If you would do me, and the other members of AoS a kindness, perhaps you could re-read the original post and my reply to it. The original poster gave a full apology with an explanation, and we all nodded our heads in sympathy as I'm sure we have all been there....!

I cannot see why if one asks for clarification then that upsets you so much. No better things to do on "Mothering Sunday"?

Again, I repeat, I do not think it unreasonable to ask for a standard of English such that the meaning(s) is/are clear, - and politeness is upheld - as I believe it was in this case. One of the great things about AoS compared with other forums is that generally speaking people are much more polite and helpful. There are always a few rogues and one must allow oneself not to be too upset by their behaviour.

Please may we now return to the subject?

Thanks,

Bonky.