View Full Version : Wanted: Belkin PF40 or Belkin PF50 Power Console (or maybe PF30)
I am after either a Belkin PF30 or Belkin PF40 Power Console that is in excellent condition!
Anyone got one to sell or know where I can get one from...
Thanks
Guy
Hello Guy
Can you pop over to The Welcome (http://theartofsound.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15) Thread and introduce yourself please.
Hello Guy
Can you pop over to The Welcome (http://theartofsound.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15) Thread and introduce yourself please.
Introduced :)
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14328
Reid Malenfant
23-11-2011, 18:10
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the PF50 is only available on the other side of the pond? :scratch:
Just about your only chance of finding either the PF40 or PF30 is to keep an eye out on ebay in all honesty :rolleyes:
Good luck in the hunt though :)
Thanks for the info regarding the PF50, I have updated the post.
A few have been listed here so I am crossing my fingers that another one will come up :)
Guy
Reid Malenfant
23-11-2011, 19:03
Guy, put up another post m8 ;) I have a PM for you but you need another post before your PMs will be activated....
So just post anything :lolsign:
In a seperate thread? Or will this one do :)
Reid Malenfant
23-11-2011, 19:49
No, that's all that is needed ;) Keep an eye open in the top right of the forum page where it says "private messages" as you are about to get one :cool:
You can get PF50's over here, I use one, its the same as the PF40 but with a higher stage filter and more controllable banks of sockets, I used to have a 40 and also a 30. :)
The Black Adder
24-11-2011, 19:04
I always wanted a PF60 but they are hard to find.
mattross
29-11-2011, 11:57
I've been debating getting one (or two) of these. Can't believe I missed the feeding frenzy when they were EOL'd last year. :scratch: I must have been hiding in a cave not to notice them. I'll keep my eyes open on here and certain other sites in the hope of bagging at least one, as my setup is in serious need of some power conditioning TLC.
Failing that I'll save my pennies for some Isotek kit.
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 17:56
Hi Matt, try some of these out chap (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=belkin+pureav+protector&_sacat=0&_odkw=belkin+pureav&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). If you read carefully you'll see they are all filtered & have different filter on some of the sockets. Effectively thay are PF30 & PF40 but in a block rather than a box to go in your rack.
brian2957
29-11-2011, 18:06
Hi Mark , have you received yours yet. If so any thoughts . BTW received the little USB to SPDIF converter you recommended for £18 . Plugged it in this morning between laptop and Caiman SEG - well pleased !
Brian.
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 18:14
Not yet Brian no :rolleyes: The seller hasn't even marked them as dispatched yet :( However estimated delivery is this month, so It's quite possible they have been sent but the seller just hasn't marked them as such :doh:
:lolsign: They'll get here sooner or later..
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 18:42
Update :lol: They are now dispatched but by Interlink Express with a tracking number :) Better than 1st class recorded me thinks ;)
Pleased you are enjoying the little convertor. Cracking stuff for the money in all honesty, I'd still like to try a V Link though :eyebrows:
brian2957
29-11-2011, 18:47
Thanks Mark . BTW Amazon ( Bartletts ) now selling the v-link for £89 inc. delivery . Getting more mouth-watering by the day.
Brian.
mattross
29-11-2011, 20:40
Hi Matt, try some of these out chap (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=belkin+pureav+protector&_sacat=0&_odkw=belkin+pureav&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). If you read carefully you'll see they are all filtered & have different filter on some of the sockets. Effectively thay are PF30 & PF40 but in a block rather than a box to go in your rack.
Some good reviews I see. I'll be interested to see what you think (unless you're waiting for something else to arrive and I'm getting my wires crossed?)
I've just recently ordered two of the Tacima 6-way blocks. I can always reassign them to other duties if these Belkin ones turn out to be as useful as the PF range.
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 20:44
Yes I have a pair of 8 way blocks arriving shortly. Martin (macca) has used similar & said it was rather good but not to plug a power amp in, which is the same recommendation for the PF range from most on here as it happens ;)
brian2957
29-11-2011, 20:51
Mark is the cat an alien too . It looks spaced out !:)
Brian.
mattross
29-11-2011, 20:53
I would need to connect about ten or eleven plugs into two sockets so I might not be able to. Currently my amps are connected via a Sound Fantastic 8-way block, which I've recently seen poor reviews for.
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 20:54
:lolsign: Not my cat or me Brian :eyebrows:
If it's anything like me though it's definately spaced out ;)
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 20:59
I would need to connect about ten or eleven plugs into two sockets so I might not be able to. Currently my amps are connected via a Sound Fantastic 8-way block, which I've recently seen poor reviews for.
So why not purchase a couple of 6 way blocks, plug them into two sockets & you magically have 12 ways. Or even an adapter on a single socket.
As long as you are not going to draw more current than a single mains plug can supply there is not a problem.
The reason that you keep seeing stuff about plugging too much stuff in is simply because most people do not understand about total power used, so it's safer to say "don't plug too much stuff in" so no fires get started ;)
brian2957
29-11-2011, 20:59
LOL That's what I look like after a 12 hour shift in my place ( the cat I mean ) . Might try the 'hat' and see it it helps. Beam me up Scotty !!!!
Brian.
mattross
29-11-2011, 21:32
Yes, good idea. I can bung the low power thingies (such as a 10/100 ethernet switch and HDMI splitter/switches) on a daisy-chained Tacima block. I have a Plug-in Power & Energy Monitor I can use to measure the full load my system generates to make sure it's all below 13 amps.
I was also planning to plug my subwoofer in via an X10 appliance module so my Pronto remote could turn it on and off with the AV amp. I'm guessing the X10 signal would be obliterated by this kind of mains filtering? This is off topic so I'll raise another thread somewhere else to discuss this at some point.
Reid Malenfant
29-11-2011, 21:37
Yes I'd expect any high frequency signal transmitted over the mains to be seriously stuffed by the Belkins. I wouldn't bother with the Tacima stuff, from the responses I have seen on here those that have tried the Belkin filters invariably no longer use the Tacima filters ;)
However, please do experiment & report back as no two situations are the same :)
I ended up getting a PF30 from eBay for £83 including postage - thanks for the heads up Mark :)
I am looking forward to it arriving!
I am still however after another PF30 or PF40 or PF50 or PF60 if anyone has one!
I did look at the block type ones as opposed to the unit/rack types but I decided that the rack type would be better for me as not only will the do the job of conditioning they will allow me to arrange and tidy my kit/rack/stand/wiring more effectively (and look nice too :D).
Are the block types just as good - would the PF30 but a little better technically - or are they just the same but in a different form factor?
Thanks
Guy
belloire
30-11-2011, 14:16
i have a belkin pf30 that i bought and never used. bit of a big box to send in the post though and leamington spa is a bit far away....... it's boxed as new and you can have it for £50 (what it cost me) i'm in Leeds and i'll happily meet you around Tibshelf on the M1, which is about half way if you like.
i have a belkin pf30 that i bought and never used. bit of a big box to send in the post though and leamington spa is a bit far away....... it's boxed as new and you can have it for £50 (what it cost me) i'm in Leeds and i'll happily meet you around Tibshelf on the M1, which is about half way if you like.
I'll take it :)
I have family in Bradford so I will try and arrange for my brother to pick it up if that is OK with you?
Thanks
Guy
belloire
30-11-2011, 15:27
no problem Guy. i don't mind a trip to Bradford i'll PM details to you.
belloire
30-11-2011, 15:30
i've tried to PM you, but not sure it's gone......
i've tried to PM you, but not sure it's gone......
Got it and sent one back :)
Yes I have a pair of 8 way blocks arriving shortly. Martin (macca) has used similar & said it was rather good but not to plug a power amp in, which is the same recommendation for the PF range from most on here as it happens ;)
Would that be true for an AV Receiver/Amp (a Denon AVR-4310) as I was going to plug this into the High Current socket?
Thanks
Guy
Reid Malenfant
30-11-2011, 17:48
Probably yes. I wouldn't plug any speaker driving amplifier into the PF30, just put that plug straight into the wall.
You can try it if you like, but I think you'll end up with it in the wall myself :eyebrows:
Probably yes. I wouldn't plug any speaker driving amplifier into the PF30, just put that plug straight into the wall.
You can try it if you like, but I think you'll end up with it in the wall myself :eyebrows:
Did you use an inline surge protector or just straight into the wall socket?
I take it that surge protectors won't have the same effect on dynamics like a conditioner would?
I am convinced that the power in my house is a little flaky/dodgy and would want some kind of surge protection!
Guy
Reid Malenfant
30-11-2011, 18:46
Straight into the wall. If you are really concerned you could fit an MOV into the amp following the mains fuse ;) If it spikes then the fuse would blow but it'd save the amp :eyebrows:
MOV = Metal Oxide Varistor, you'd need to select one with a clamping voltage of about 275V AC..
Thanks to Mark and Darren I should have 2 PF30s by the end of the week, thanks guys :cool:
I'll report back and post some pics in The Gallery when I have them installed :)
Guy
If anyone is interested there are 2 PF30s on eBay right now at £85 buy it now...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1&_nkw=Belkin%20PF30&_dmpt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifie rs&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m283
...and no, it is not me and they are not the ones I have just bought :lol:
Probably yes. I wouldn't plug any speaker driving amplifier into the PF30, just put that plug straight into the wall.
You can try it if you like, but I think you'll end up with it in the wall myself :eyebrows:
Ill second that :)
icehockeyboy
08-12-2011, 13:55
Ill second that :)
On the back of a number of people saying plug an amp straight into the wall, I did, and it made bugger all difference, well, that is not 100% true, it sounded worse........:scratch:
Reid Malenfant
08-12-2011, 15:25
Perhaps you have particularly noisy mains? If so then it's quite possible it would sound worse ;) Maybe in those circumstances a bit of filtering & the slight increase in mains impedance outweighs the lower impedance of being straight in the wall, but with all the mains trash :scratch:
Also, here's another reason....
Plugging kit directly into the wall also couples it more effectively as a conduit for transferring vibration to sensitive component circuitry, via attached power leads.
Introducing equipment to this type of microphony is very detrimental to its sonic performance (significantly muddying the sound), hence why all my equipment is plugged into a high-quality distribution block (supported on my Mana equipment rack, and thus further isolated), which is hard-wired directly into a dedicated CU, powering the whole system.
This has the effect, amongst other things, of decoupling (as far as possible) the system components from the effects of said microphony, and the sonic benefits are easy to hear: increased clarity, subjectively less distortion, and as a result, superior information retrieval and more music, in a suitably high-resolution system.
Yes, impedance may be raised a little as a result, but extensive experience of experimenting in this area has taught me that this method of set-up offers by far the best compromise! ;)
Marco.
icehockeyboy
08-12-2011, 15:46
Perhaps you have particularly noisy mains? If so then it's quite possible it would sound worse ;) Maybe in those circumstances a bit of filtering & the slight increase in mains impedance outweighs the lower impedance of being straight in the wall, but with all the mains trash :scratch:
Afaik, my mains are ok........
See my reply above, Craig :)
Marco.
brian2957
13-12-2011, 22:27
Just replaced my Tacima CS929 mains block with one of these Belkin 8-way
mains blocks . http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00009RIP8/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1323815794&sr=8-1&condition=new.
Result is much better picture and sound quality on my Panasonic 37 inch plasma TV.
Great improvement for not a lot of money . My HIFI is out of commission for a
few days so I will add to this later .
icehockeyboy
14-12-2011, 10:18
The link goes to a sub £20 8 way Surgemaster unit, is that correct?
I ask as previously some links went to a generic listing, and not the exact unit in question.
The link goes to a sub £20 8 way Surgemaster unit, is that correct?
I ask as previously some links went to a generic listing, and not the exact unit in question.
You are after the Belkin PureAV Isolators - they do a 6 way version and an 8 way version.
See here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=Belkin+isolator&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Guy
icehockeyboy
14-12-2011, 13:10
You are after the Belkin PureAV Isolators - they do a 6 way version and an 8 way version.
See here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=Belkin+isolator&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Guy
Thanks chum!
Is it the F9G623UK one?
PS........sod it, for that price I ordered one anyway!
The prices seem to vary greatly for what appears to be the same units..
brian2957
14-12-2011, 18:50
The link goes to a sub £20 8 way Surgemaster unit, is that correct?
I ask as previously some links went to a generic listing, and not the exact unit in question.
Hi Craig , this is the link to the unit which I bought and installed into my system. . Excellent improvements in sound and picture quality. Can't comment on any others I'm afraid.
Brian.
Reid Malenfant
14-12-2011, 18:52
I could say "told you so" but it looks like I just did :D
Glad they are doing the business, though it is what I expected :)
brian2957
14-12-2011, 18:58
Yes you were right again OH GREAT ONE : LOL
Seriously though this is a fantastic piece of gear Mark.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction .
If I manage to sell the wife and daughter I may even go for the Oppo 95.
icehockeyboy
14-12-2011, 20:45
Hi Craig , this is the link to the unit which I bought and installed into my system. . Excellent improvements in sound and picture quality. Can't comment on any others I'm afraid.
Brian.
Hi Brian, so is the one you bought the same model number as the one I mentioned I just bought?
brian2957
14-12-2011, 21:05
No mate , the one I bought was the F9M820UK4M .To be honest with you I
think they all are very similar and do virtually the same thing . The UK stands
for UK plugs and the 4M is the cable length.
icehockeyboy
03-04-2013, 11:38
Hi Matt, try some of these out chap (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=belkin+pureav+protector&_sacat=0&_odkw=belkin+pureav&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313). If you read carefully you'll see they are all filtered & have different filter on some of the sockets. Effectively thay are PF30 & PF40 but in a block rather than a box to go in your rack.
I've just resurrected this to show Effem and the boys how come I thought the PF 30 and 40 was just a different case to the one I ended up buying!
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