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John
11-11-2011, 18:57
Does anyone know someone in the Lonodon region who has experience and feels confident around changing the body to the Denon 103r.
I rather not post it as cannot find the orginal packaging

Dominic Harper
11-11-2011, 19:52
Hi John. I can remove the body no problem. I can hopefully supply replacement exotic wood bodies for the denon.

John
11-11-2011, 20:04
I got the body already my only worry is that I do not have the orginal box to send it

The Grand Wazoo
11-11-2011, 20:23
John,
I've got a cartridge box you can use if you want.
Send me a PM if you need it.

Marco
11-11-2011, 20:43
Hi John,

Also remember, mate, that the body-shell of the 103R is less resonant than that of the stock 103, due to being internally damped with pads. Therefore, it doesn't impinge as negatively on sound quality.

What I'm getting at is that there is less to be gained, sonically, by removing or upgrading the body-shell of the 103R than there is with the stock 103.

That's not to say, though, that the exotic wood bodies Dominic sells wouldn't provide a notable sonic improvement, or maybe you just want it to look sexier? If that's the case then feel free to ignore my waffling! ;)

Just trying to save you from spending money, unless it is really necessary :cool:

Marco.

Dominic Harper
11-11-2011, 20:48
Hi Marco. The 103r just has a single damping pad between the body and the front yolk. It does help with body resonance as you say.

Marco
11-11-2011, 21:05
Indeed - and surprisingly so, in my experience, Dom :)

Marco.

John
11-11-2011, 21:34
When using a Decca super gold the sound seems quite vague in comparison I am used to more resolution and read the upgrades make a difference such as body and needle

Marco
11-11-2011, 23:23
Hi John,

No doubt fitting a 'posher' stylus will help with the vagueness you mention (although watch that the sound, in the process, doesn't become too 'hi-fi'), as indeed will upgrading the body-shell.

Undoubtedly, in my experience, the plastic body-shells of the 103, and 103R, regardless of internal damping, muddy the sound to varying degrees, as a result of the way that their resonant nature impacts adversely on the music signal.

However, you can 'fancify' the 103 as much as you want, but it will never be a Decca! It all depends on where you want to go :)

Marco.

John
12-11-2011, 04:08
I no I cannot get it to Decca levels but I remember hearing one on Vics that was mod and thought it was a really nice cart

John
12-11-2011, 04:46
The question then is it worth sinking money into the 103r
Do you think the mods make the cart to clinical I was hoping to tighten things up with the mods

NRG
12-11-2011, 13:39
I did this a few years ago, makes a big difference to the 103r sound. Well worth the effort IMHO, here's the original thread:

http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3730&highlight=103r

John
12-11-2011, 13:41
Cheers Neal

Moko
12-11-2011, 16:34
John, I just fitted today the MIDAS body that Daiwok over on Lenco Heaven sells and so far the difference is well worth it on my regular DL103.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/MokoMilk/DIY%2012%20Tonearm/IMG-20111112-00524.jpg

It's not that hard to do the cutting as long as you have the original cart protector,a sharp knife and take your time.

The video that Thomas Schick posted is really worth a good few watches as well before you start.

selfaddict
12-11-2011, 19:49
Hi David. That aluminum Midas looks great :stalks:.

Is he doing other colors that gold as well? The gold color has put me of buying from him earlier.



John, I just fitted today the MIDAS body that Daiwok over on Lenco Heaven sells and so far the difference is well worth it on my regular DL103.

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy154/MokoMilk/DIY%2012%20Tonearm/IMG-20111112-00524.jpg

It's not that hard to do the cutting as long as you have the original cart protector,a sharp knife and take your time.

The video that Thomas Schick posted is really worth a good few watches as well before you start.

Moko
12-11-2011, 21:01
No I think from what he's posted all the gold ones are gone, now he has the older square edge silver ones I think for €90 and the new rounder edge version which is what I have for €120 but best to check on the traders section on Lenco Heaven