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Ant
17-10-2011, 12:48
Hi all,

I've been playing with the TC-7520 for a while now so I thought I'd share my mods with everyone as a guide. I'll include the layman's terms key at the bottom so everyone whether novice or DIY guru can follow, I'll also include various instructions together with costs and links to the parts used - all being well it will help someone along the way.



No.01: “plug and play”

I recommend purchasing a 'better' PSU from the off, I chose the “Maplins High Power Multi-Voltage Desktop Power Supply” as it has a greater current delivery than the standard Beresford wall plug, it is still however a SMPS so not ideal for audio but the HF noise is dealt with further down the list.

This power supply will not automatically make your 7520 significantly 'better' but it's a start and every little tweak adds up to a bigger picture.

It's the most expensive of my 'mods' coming in at £37

Link: http://www.maplin.co.uk/ac-dc-multi-voltage-4a-switched-mode-power-supply-48517



No.02: “op-amps”

I swapped the 5532's out for LME49720HA tin hat in the fixed position and LM4562NA in the headphone/variable position with superb effect, much more dynamic and musical with a more apparent spacial presentation, a highly impressive mod.

It's an absolute doddle to do too, insert a small flat head screwdriver between the old 5532 op-amps and their sockets, lightly 'turn' the screwdriver to push the op-amps out of their sockets, take care not to use any other components on the board as leverage, once they're lifted slightly – pull out by hand.

Looking from the front of the TC-7520 Insert the LM4562NA op-amp (Headphone/variable) so that the small semi-circular recess is facing towards the right of the socket, lightly align the op-amps legs and press in firmly.

The insertion of the LME49720HA is slightly different as this op-amp needs the circular orientated pins forming/bending slightly with a pair of thin nosed pliers to fit the square socket. Make sure the 'PIN' (photo below) is pointing towards the front right hole in the socket and press in firmly taking care that all the legs are situated correctly.

Job done – Told you it was easy!

I highly recommend purchasing the LME49720HA from “yp53” on ebay, his service is truly excellent and at £12 delivered – rather cheap.

Link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LME49720HA-DUAL-OPAMP-8PIN-LME49860-LM4562-LME49720-/110750847181?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19c943d0cd#ht_1633wt_1396

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no02.jpg



No.03: “op-amp de-coupling/coupling”

For this mod you have to remove the op-amp PCB – To do this you need to carefully remove the glue that bonds the PCB to the headphone socket, there is also a double sided sticky pad underneath the board which with a thin screwdriver carefully prize the board away from the headphone socket and gently lift the whole PCB.

I use Nichicon MUSE ES 47uF 50V (UES1H470MPM) here with great effect, they're quite a large cap so need the legs bending 90 degrees, don't worry – they leave 1-2mm gap between the front panel and lid. They're Bi-Polarised so more suited to the application.

I found the mod to widen the sound-stage and produce a more revealing listen.

They're incredibly good value at only 32p each

Link: http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/nichicon_es.html

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no03.jpg



* At this point I'll add I purchase all my capacitors from http://www.hificollective.co.uk/ , Nick (the owner) is a superb guy and in my experience his service is second to none.



No.04 “MLC5/6”

Here's a simple one that only involves removing 2 components (yellow capacitors) from the PCB, like myself by de-soldering and removing or by simply snipping the legs, either way the mod compliments the LME49720HA quite nicely – Strings seems to be more pronounced and accurate, a good old 'free' mod.

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no04.jpg



No.05 “Swapping the DAC chip”

NOTE: This is definitely one for the experienced DIYer so please don't even consider it if you feel unsure, it is extremely fiddly and if done wrong can render your TC-7520 useless.

I replaced the Burr-Brown PCM1716 with the Wolfson WM8716 and here's my method – I used a couple of wooden cocktail sticks and inserted them under each run of legs and simply flooded all of the pins with solder whilst gently sliding the 'sticks' further under the legs, swapping from side to side the chip soon rises and releases, there were no lifted seats and enough solder was left to simply place the WM8716 in situ and gently heat the pins flowing the solder underneath, I did not add any 'extra' solder as I knew if I bridged any pins I would have a hard time removing it.

It was well worth the £6 outlay, there is more control over the whole spectrum, the mids are more 'punchy' and the bass is lower, again a wider sound stage. Overall – very happy with this mod.

Link: http://eshop.tirnaelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_45&products_id=181



No.06 “10v regulator RC Filter”

Again – one for the more experienced DIYer as the whole PCB needs to be removed and soldering is required. I'm not particularly keen on the idea of SMPS for audio due to the HF switching noise so to combat this I used a simple RC filter for the 10v 3pin regulator.

Here's how – There is a jumper (J15) just in front and which feeds the 10v regulator, I removed this jumper and replaced it with a 1ohm resistor in the right hole feeding the positive pin of a Nichicon MUSE KZ 1000uF 25v (UKZ1E102MHM ) capacitor and back down into the left hole. The negative pin of the cap is linked to GND at MLC12. Vuala – simple HF filter.

The cap is big so needs seating at 90 degrees and it fits perfectly in the space given.

The cap is only 95p and the result is well worth it.

Link: http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/nichicon_kz.html

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no06.jpg



No.07 “bulk DAC caps”

Again – one for the experienced.

I see quite a few folk have replaced the bulk caps around the DAC with Elna Silmics – I'm not really a fan of Silmics as I find them a little boomy and soft. My favourite electrolytics bar none are the Nichicon MUSE KZ's, they're very cheap, well damped and I find them dynamic and rhythmic. Here's what I replaced with the KZ's:

EC2 – 220uF 25v (39p) UKZ1E221MHM

TC2 – 100uf 25v (33p) UKZ1E101MPM

TC1/3/4/5/6/7/8 & EC3 – 10uF 100v (50p) UKZ2A100MPM

All at a cost of under £6, a vast improvement over the OEM's (IMO) - More outright scale to the output.

Quick tip – I found the best way to fit the caps was to remove the 'bunged' solder from the pad holes by holding a solder sucker on one side of the PCB whilst heating the other, click/suck/gone.

Link: http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/nichicon_kz.html

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no07.jpg



No.08 “post 10v reg de-coupling”

Again – an easy one whilst the board's out.

Another KZ here (EC19) in the form of 220uF 25v (UKZ1E221MHM), no apparent improvement here but a 'better' cap can't hurt after a reg and at 39p, you may as well.

Link: http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/nichicon_kz.html

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no08.jpg



No.09 “the ribbon”

This was not a planned mod but after I tore the quite delicate ribbon cable after numerous 'in and outs' it was a necessary job. Not a lot to say other than I replaced the ribbon with cat5 solid core. I found the easiest way to remove the ribbon was to cut/separate the ribbon between each cable and de-solder each run individually.

No improvement noticeable other than a more forgiving/hardy connection.

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no09.jpg



No.10 “hard wired usb”

I removed the plug/socket from beneath the USB board and replaced with a tightly twisted soldered pair of solid core cat5 thinking the less 'connections' the better although no apparent improvement.

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no10.jpg



No.11 “the sockets”

I had a few spare quality “CMC” phono sockets so I thought 'while the case is empty'. I had to enlarge the case holes by 3mm so the connectors had enough room to sit side by side , no sonic benefit apparent but a 'better' mechanical connection none the less.

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no11.jpg



No.12 “the very cheap yet very effective 5v reg”

Another for the competent DIYer and IMO – the most beneficial and my favourite mod.

I used a very simple and very cheap discrete regulator circuit based upon the LM317 3pin here with superb effect, not only does it cut the passing HF noise from the SMPS but it cuts the noise from the LM317 itself.

I had to move the 1000uF 16v Cap through 90 degrees and solder to legs to fit the reg, the case closes with no fouling.

Here's my simple reg with the layout on a strip of veroboard:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no12a.jpg


Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no12.jpg

And here's the complete (for now) product:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/B7520_1.jpg

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/B7520_2.jpg

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/B7520_3.jpg

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/B7520_4.jpg




KEY:

SMPS: Switch Mode Power Supply
PSU: Power Supply Unit
Op-amp: Operational Amplifier
Reg: Voltage regulator
Cap: Capacitor
DAC: Digital to Analogue Convertor
BP: Bi-Polar
PCB: Printed Circuit Board
RC Filter: Resistor Capacitor Filter




I really hope this thread has been helpful,

Yours truly,
Ant

aquapiranha
17-10-2011, 13:01
I do not own one if these DAC's ( I have the original 7510) but even so even I can see that this is a very thorough and easy to follow guide! Many thanks for taking the time Ant, I feel sure there are many here who will make good use of it.

Steve

John
17-10-2011, 14:08
Cheers Ant for a very detailed modification guide I am sure many people will benefit from the infomation you given. Some good photos to and realy nice touch to bring it back into how it has changed the sound

Covenant
17-10-2011, 18:05
Its nice seeing so much DIY condensed down for easy reference. Superb photos, you must have a decent camera. I don't see the Gator board mod there-I assume you didn't think it necessary?
I have to disagree about the Silmic's, I dont find them boomy and soft in my setup.

StanleyB
17-10-2011, 19:15
Nice project Anthony. But you should try the Gator PCB with non-polarized Nichicon well. The standard PCB cannot match the Gator for performance.

Butuz
19-10-2011, 11:45
Great guide ant. There's a lot of good modding there.

Out of interest do you think the new RCA connectors make any difference to the sound?

Hi Stan you got any gators in stock?

Cheers, Butuz

Ant
19-10-2011, 13:59
No.13 "Passive"


I wont go into detail how to do it as Stanley describes it extremely well here (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6910)

However, this is my version:

I've used Mundorf Silver cable from the pins to the RCA's but I'm sure solid cat5 would be more than adequate.

I'm not a big fan of electrolytics in the analogue audio path but gave some a go anyhow - I tried 47uF Nichicon ES and Rubycon ZA's here and actually preferred the ZA's but then I settled on a pair of small 3.3uf 50v Wima MKS2's - much deeper bass, sparkling high's and much more detail - far better the the 'lytics IMO. Time for boutique films I think...

The 'passive' result: A far wider sound-stage, more defined placement of instruments, cleaner strings and deeper low notes but a little less 'kick' than with the op-amps on board. Overall - This one (with 'better' films) is a keeper.

NOTE - Implementing the 'passive' mod will leave the front board redundant, this makes the front 'power' button inactive - ie, you can turn it 'off', the LED's will extinguish but the TC-7520 will still work as if it was turned 'on'.

Piccy:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/no13.jpg


Ant

chrism
19-10-2011, 14:19
Thought that I would give the Nichicon Muse KZ's ago. Cost with postage is around £9.50.

Your next project is to get rid of the internal regulators totally and provide dedecated self built high quality linear PSU's to the 5v and 12v points!

Regards

Ant
19-10-2011, 15:40
Cheers Ant for a very detailed modification guide I am sure many people will benefit from the infomation you given. Some good photos to and realy nice touch to bring it back into how it has changed the sound

Thanks for the praise John, much appreciated.


Its nice seeing so much DIY condensed down for easy reference. Superb photos, you must have a decent camera. I don't see the Gator board mod there-I assume you didn't think it necessary?
I have to disagree about the Silmic's, I dont find them boomy and soft in my setup.

Thanks Covenant, my camera is a mediocre Nikon D3000 with 18-55 & 55-90 lens. Gator board - I'm sticking with the passive for now with an intent to swap the Wimas for something a little more boutique. Silmics - I guess it's all to individual taste but not my 'cuppa' I'm affraid.


I do not own one if these DAC's ( I have the original 7510) but even so even I can see that this is a very thorough and easy to follow guide! Many thanks for taking the time Ant, I feel sure there are many here who will make good use of it.

Steve

aquapiranha - Thanks matey, I enjoyed writing it.


Nice project Anthony. But you should try the Gator PCB with non-polarized Nichicon well. The standard PCB cannot match the Gator for performance.

The 'main man' - Cheers Stanley, I'll keep playing with passive caps..... for now, although I intend to compare the gator at a later date.


Great guide ant. There's a lot of good modding there.

Out of interest do you think the new RCA connectors make any difference to the sound?

Hi Stan you got any gators in stock?


Cheers, Butuz

Butuz - Cheers. I didn't find the connectors made a bit of difference other than a 'better' mechanical connection.


Thought that I would give the Nichicon Muse KZ's ago. Cost with postage is around £9.50.

Your next project is to get rid of the internal regulators totally and provide dedecated self built high quality linear PSU's to the 5v and 12v points!

Regards

chrism - I like the KZ (alot) although I intend to swap a few out on the digital rails for solid polymers, oscons would be good but they are quite expensive in higher values so I think I'll end up going for solid Nichicons.

I've got 'other' things up my sleeve that should be more beneficial than a linear PSU. No clues just yet.... TBCont'

Ant

icehockeyboy
20-10-2011, 12:21
FWIW, when I had my modded by Stan 7510, I used a Maplin psu, similar price to the one suggested, if not the same unit, and IMO, it didn't make an audible difference, although at the time I persuaded myself it did.

Ant
20-10-2011, 17:43
FWIW, when I had my modded by Stan 7510, I used a Maplin psu, similar price to the one suggested, if not the same unit, and IMO, it didn't make an audible difference, although at the time I persuaded myself it did.


That's the reason why 7 lines from the top I included the text: "This power supply will not automatically make your 7520 significantly 'better' but it's a start and every little tweak adds up to a bigger picture."

However - if you intend to implement discrete regulators and especially if you swap the 10v for a 12v you may need to allow as much as 3v dropout (dependant on regulator circuit/design chosen) - which the 12v OEM cannot deliver.

I intended to go 'discrete' from day one - hence the Maplins 15v PSU was added from the off.


Ant

Reid Malenfant
20-10-2011, 18:00
Hi Anthony, nice work chap :) I have a little suggestion for you that might be worth looking into. Regarding your LM317 regulator board, try removing the 10 ohm resistor & replacing it with a 1Amp or greater low value inductor ;) I'd suggest somewhere between 30 - 100 micro Henry. In the standard StanDAC this resistor tends to reduce the dissipation of the 7805, but it also makes the supply feeding the regulator subject to voltage fluctuations if the output current varies (as the voltage dropped by the resistor will vary in sympathy)..

The LM317 should have no dissipation problems & is a much better regulator. If you replace the resistor with an inductor you'll virtually eliminate any switching spikes from the PSU reaching the regulator input, thus the output will be cleaner. There should also be less of a voltage fluctuation on the input & thus the output will be better regulated to..

Just a thought :cool:

Ant
20-10-2011, 20:00
Hi Anthony, nice work chap :) I have a little suggestion for you that might be worth looking into. Regarding your LM317 regulator board, try removing the 10 ohm resistor & replacing it with a 1Amp or greater low value inductor ;) I'd suggest somewhere between 30 - 100 micro Henry. In the standard StanDAC this resistor tends to reduce the dissipation of the 7805, but it also makes the supply feeding the regulator subject to voltage fluctuations if the output current varies (as the voltage dropped by the resistor will vary in sympathy)..

The LM317 should have no dissipation problems & is a much better regulator. If you replace the resistor with an inductor you'll virtually eliminate any switching spikes from the PSU reaching the regulator input, thus the output will be cleaner. There should also be less of a voltage fluctuation on the input & thus the output will be better regulated to..

Just a thought :cool:




Quite right as you say - a 30-100µH inductor replacing the 10r would work very well indeed, I will do just that.

Thank you,
Ant

Alex_UK
20-10-2011, 20:08
Great guide Ant, thanks for taking the time to share it with our members.

icehockeyboy
21-10-2011, 09:43
That's the reason why 7 lines from the top I included the text: "This power supply will not automatically make your 7520 significantly 'better' but it's a start and every little tweak adds up to a bigger picture."

However - if you intend to implement discrete regulators and especially if you swap the 10v for a 12v you may need to allow as much as 3v dropout (dependant on regulator circuit/design chosen) - which the 12v OEM cannot deliver.

I intended to go 'discrete' from day one - hence the Maplins 15v PSU was added from the off.


Ant


Yeh but no but yeh but...........:) Not audible to not significantly better is still a big gap. :)

chrism
21-10-2011, 11:09
Yeh but no but yeh but...........:) Not audible to not significantly better is still a big gap. :)

The internal 5v and 12v regs are the limiting factor for any external linear PSU solution. They need sorting with something better if a quality linear supply is to be used and appreciated.

Your choices appear to be non-switching regulators like Dexa etc (not Muratas) or like me, removing the internal regs entirely and providing external linear 12v and 5v regulated supplies straight into the DAC.

As Ant says the bits add up!

Regards

chrism
11-11-2011, 10:20
Hi Ant,

Have you looked at swapping the pot out in the Caiman? It looks to be a 20k Alps type and I wondered if any improvement could be gained from the variable output from trying something else?

Noble types are just too big or I would give it ago.

Regards

Chris

Ant
11-11-2011, 19:41
Hi Ant,

Have you looked at swapping the pot out in the Caiman? It looks to be a 20k Alps type and I wondered if any improvement could be gained from the variable output from trying something else?

Noble types are just too big or I would give it ago.

Regards

Chris

Hi Chris,

I'm currently in progress with quite a few other bits 'n' bobs so I haven't looked into the pot as yet, although I don't use the variable or headphone so in my case it isn't really necessary but.... and a big but.... I have biggish plans for my 7520 so I suppose a stepped pot may be an idea whilst I'm at it.

So sorry, not as yet but soon.... maybe :)


Ant

chrism
12-11-2011, 10:02
Hi Ant,

Regarding stepped pots, has anything caught your eye that may be worth ago. Quite a lot of what appear to be original Alps pots on ebay for £10.00 but not sure if they would better Stan's original choice.

Would like to find something that fits the case rather than a stand alone lightspeed type.

Regards

Chris

Ant
12-11-2011, 22:30
Hi Chris,

As a replacement pot to fit in the STD case I'd go for the £15 Alps Blue aka "Blue beauty" here (http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/potentiometers.html)

Although in my case if plans go as expected the physical size of of the pot isn't the underlining requirement so I'm going to go for one of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Assembled-Dale-25K-step-ladder-Attenuator-Potentiometer-/120755952309?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiF i_Amplifiers&hash=item1c1d9d9ab5#ht_1953wt_1163) or something like it.

Ta,
Ant

chrism
13-11-2011, 09:03
Hi Ant,

You appear to be considering either going for a Dale type stepped pot in a little box or replacing the Beresford box to gain more room for mods.

Might give the Alps 20k blue ago just to see if any improvement can be gained through the preamp. I liked the Beresford pre as it appears to better many stand alone preamps out there especially when the power supply issue is well sorted.

Regards

Chris

StanleyB
13-11-2011, 11:26
I have been experimenting with an optical encoder to see if it would be possible to get rid of the standard pot in a future design. The software part is however mind blowing for me to get right, so don't expect an imminent solution.

Covenant
13-11-2011, 11:35
'I liked the Beresford pre as it appears to better many stand alone preamps out there especially when the power supply issue is well sorted'.

+1. Although I am likely to try a pre in the future I am very happy with the variable out on my Beresford connected to a power amp.

Ant
13-11-2011, 11:46
Hi Ant,

You appear to be considering either going for a Dale type stepped pot in a little box or replacing the Beresford box to gain more room for mods.

Might give the Alps 20k blue ago just to see if any improvement can be gained through the preamp. I liked the Beresford pre as it appears to better many stand alone preamps out there especially when the power supply issue is well sorted.

Regards

Chris

That's the one, although finding a quality case within my budget is proving difficult.

I'm not sure if an improvement will be gained from an alps blue, maybe Stanley would know?

I remember reading elsewhere that quite a few folks purchased cheap 'blues' from 'bay later to find out they were fakes, so if 'bay is your preferred, choose wisely.

I think I'll go for one of those cheap dale kit jobbies as I quite fancy a solderthon :)

Cheers,
Ant

Ant
15-11-2011, 13:45
I've been looking for a case to fit my planned mods in for a while now and although there's some fine cases out there, there really wasn't anything that I fancied, so, I'm building my own exactly to how I want it, here's a preview:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/B-case/final.jpg

The render above shows the size difference between the old case and new, much more room for tinkering.

The case will be constructed from 3mm aluminium with oak cheeks (I like oak :) ) and a light industrial feel thrown in with 12mm allen head bolts to the front and rear corners with 4mm for the top and bottom.

The aluminium, oak and fixings are with me and ready to be drilled, painted and constructed. Then that leaves the switches/rca's/IEC/knob etc etc to fit when they arrive in a few days.

I'm planning on making a build thread all for the case alone from start to finish so all being well, a week or two and it will be complete.


Ant

StanleyB
15-11-2011, 15:28
Nice bit of rendering. Which program did you use? Solidworks?

sondale
15-11-2011, 15:52
I have been experimenting with an optical encoder to see if it would be possible to get rid of the standard pot in a future design. The software part is however mind blowing for me to get right, so don't expect an imminent solution.

Stanley,

Have you looked at Paul Hynes' VCCS? This is an LDR based solution and it works very nicely - remote and all.

Alan

StanleyB
15-11-2011, 16:58
I got a remote controlled version of the Caiman with motorized volume gathering dust in my office ;). I also tried the LDR path, but SQ etc were not satisfactory. I could hear a dip in performance with the LDR in circuit. But fear not. I haven't thrown in the towel just yet.

Ant
20-11-2011, 21:17
I've just been browsing the 7520 circuit ready for my replacement regulators and I've stumbled upon something:

The headphone/variable opamp is supplied purely by the external PSU with no on-board regulation, so in other words: noisy PSU = noisy variable/h'phone output?

Wouldn't a spot of line regulation here be highly beneficial for the headphone & pre-amp guys?

I'm guessing it was due to current delivery that the regulation was dismissed - am I wrong?

Ta,
Ant

StanleyB
21-11-2011, 07:17
The headphone/variable opamp is supplied purely by the external PSU with no on-board regulation, so in other words: noisy PSU = noisy variable/h'phone output?

Wouldn't a spot of line regulation here be highly beneficial for the headphone & pre-amp guys?

I'm guessing it was due to current delivery that the regulation was dismissed - am I wrong?

The stock Caiman power supply is a regulated 15V power supply. It can't however deliver the 12V required for the line output stage and LED control circuit, or the 5V required by the DAC and receiver chip. It can only deliver the 15V for the headphone stage. So separate regulators have been added to drop the 15V to 12V and 5V.

Ant
21-11-2011, 13:32
Thanks Stanley,

I have the 7520 with 7510+ front board and 12v PSU, so the headphone stage is also receiving 12v, the LED control is running from the 10v Reg (KIA7810) and the DAC as you say - 7805.

I'm swapping the 7810 out for a discrete 12v, is there any reason why I can't run the headphone stage from that too? Any ideas on what current the headphone/variable stage pulls?

Also to note - PIN1B labels 10v & 12v are in reverse in my 7520.

I was planning on removing the KIA7810, tapping the 12v reg ve+ in at PIN1B 12V (marked 10v), remove the PIN 1A to 1B 12v (marked 10v) jumper and linking PIN 1A's 10v and 12v.... Does that make sense?


Thanks,
Ant

StanleyB
21-11-2011, 14:03
On the plug in audio PCB there is a 10V and 12V line in the case of the TC-7520. Use a multimeter to find them ;). Once you have, cut the track where the 12V comes in, and connect the now dead side of the track to the 10V. That's less complicated than messing about around those grey ribbon cables.

Ant
21-11-2011, 14:20
Hi Stanley, thanks for getting back.

Don't worry, I wont be messing with the ribbon cables - they disappeared a long time ago:

http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i322/ant000/Beresford%207520%20mods/B7520_4.jpg

So it's easy peasy for me to pull a single cable and insert 12v there.

I've noticed quite a few folk have swapped the KIA7810 out for the 12v Murata, in my case it won't be a Murata so will any part of the circuit dislike the extra 2v? ie, LED's etc


Thanks

StanleyB
21-11-2011, 14:30
As long as you use an external 15V PSU, the 12V reg will be fine.

Ant
21-11-2011, 14:36
Cheers Stanley,


Sorry, I somehow forgot to mention I'm going 'linear' with 2 PSU's (12v & 5v) hence the questions regarding linking the 10v & 12v rails.

It's all going to live in one box too (render a few posts up).

I'm currently waiting for a few bits 'n' bobs then we're off :)


Thanks,
Ant

chrism
21-11-2011, 16:36
Hi Ant,

Good choice I also run 12v and 5v linear supplies and taken out the internal regs. I don't use the headphone / opamps as have gone passive though. My PSU' s are external though.

The PSU was the best upgrade I have done!

Regards

Chris

Ant
21-11-2011, 16:52
Hi Ant,

Good choice I also run 12v and 5v linear supplies and taken out the internal regs. I don't use the headphone / opamps as have gone passive though. My PSU' s are external though.

The PSU was the best upgrade I have done!

Regards

Chris

Cool,

Have you some kind of burndy connector between the PSU & DAC? Any photos you'd like to share?

I'm considering implementing a switchable 'passive mode', I want my re-cased version to be complete first time round with all box's ticked.

Ta,
Ant

chrism
21-11-2011, 16:55
Hi Ant,

Have a search for "DIY Caiman Power Supply Project". I would link it if I knew how.

Regards

Chris

Ant
21-11-2011, 18:01
Hi Ant,

Have a search for "DIY Caiman Power Supply Project". I would link it if I knew how.

Regards

Chris

This one here (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9144)


"Yes very surprised at the lack of interest with the DIY Caiman PSU project". Me too considering I thought AoS was the home of the Beresford mods? Slap a 1210 sticker on it and all will be good ;)

Joking aside - Good work, those avondale bridges and trackers are nice bits of kit. Did those MUSE KZ's settle down for you?

Ant

chrism
21-11-2011, 18:59
Hi Ant,

The Avondale bridges and TPR2 regs are great bits of kit. Les will sell the boards as well if you rather assemble them. My photos have the TPR1 but I upgraded to the TPR2 a few months ago.

The MUZE KZ's are still in and sounding good. I was wondering about trying some solid aluminium caps instead but not sure about them.

Not had ago at the vol pot yet as tempted to wait until Stanley has had chance to develop/complete/test his optical soln.

Regards

Ant
02-12-2011, 21:06
For the next instalment, clicky here (http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14485)

chrism
16-03-2012, 15:49
I have been experimenting with an optical encoder to see if it would be possible to get rid of the standard pot in a future design. The software part is however mind blowing for me to get right, so don't expect an imminent solution.

Hi Stan,

Did you progress the Caiman optical encoder further? Is this something that the new version may go for?

Regards

Chris

StanleyB
18-03-2012, 09:06
Still working on it, and I hope to use it in the next variable output DAC that I manage to complete. One of the things that initially worried me is the feeling that adjusting the volume control level in the digital domain would be inferior than adjusting it in the analogue domain. However I can't find any published research on this assumption. The information that I gathered so far from the web is based on pure hearsay, but no technical experiments to back up any claims. So I am having to do my own research instead of relying on cheap talk. Unfortunately doing my own research takes a lot of time. Too many other things going on at the same time.

Usernametaken
05-04-2013, 09:12
On mod #3, do the caps need to be 50V or will 25V 47uF work?