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webby
24-09-2011, 17:05
Tests have shown that Neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

Now they're trying to prove their results wrong before declaring it scientific fact.

Mind-blowing stuff :stalks:
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 17:12
Sure is. If it's correct it will turn physics on it's head.
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 17:14
Sure is. If it's correct it will turn physics on it's head.
Which it should be to as we have nothing unifying general relativity & quantum theory :scratch:
webby
24-09-2011, 17:17
Light has jitter, Neutrinos no jitter? :lol:
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 17:19
Well science must be coming on in leaps & bounds, i'm sure it wasn't so long ago that they were still working out a way of detecting Neutrinos, let alone firing a beam of them through the earth & picking up the results :eek:
Tony Moore
24-09-2011, 17:31
Anyone ever read Timescape by Gregory Benford?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timescape

I remember reading this book when it first came out in the UK in the early 80s and having my mind blown by the possibility of sending a message back in time using Neutrinos. All Sci-fi up until now. Exciting times if this new discovery turns out to be true.
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 17:34
Yes read it Tony. I like his books.
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 17:34
Yes read it Tony. I like his books.
Me to as it happens :eyebrows:
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 17:56
Aye good stuff. Peter Hamilton's not too shabby either!
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 17:56
..and Ian M Banks.
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 18:01
I'm reading Stephen Baxter - Exultant at the moment, another good sci fi author...

I wish there was certain things i could change about the past, but best not go there :eyebrows:

Actually no, i like my life even though it's not the best ;) If i changed the past then who knows where i'd be now :scratch:
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 18:05
Have you read Coalescent?
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 18:09
Have you read Coalescent?
Yes, Exultant is #2 in the destiny's children series. I'll probably get Trancendent & Resplendent as this is also quite good...

Coalescent was a cracker though, no two ways about it ;)
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 18:22
For a minute there Ali i thought you were going to bring up the ex copper blowing up the lab where they were going to make an artificial black hole by slowing light down ;)

Well light can be slowed alright (http://jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/slowlight.html) as you possibly know already...
Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 19:03
Haha aye, seen that before. interesting stuff.
Beechwoods
24-09-2011, 19:11
Call me a 'faster than light denier' but the thing I have a problem with is how they identified that neutrino 'A' spotted in Geneva was the very same neutrino 'A' entering Gran Sasso :scratch:

Do neutrino's have RFI tags these days?!
Tony Moore
24-09-2011, 19:14
Peter F Hamilton - yes, fantasic. Waiting eagerly for "Great North Road".

Stephen Baxter brilliant.

Also Robert L Forward, I seem to remember a very thought provoking novel about an alien lifeform living on a neutron star that live life at millions of times the speed of humans and can only move in two directions because of the magnetic field lines. Dragon's Egg I think it was called. We send a probe to communicate with them, pass on knowledge and they surpass us very quickly due to the difference in the progression of time due to the gravity.
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 19:15
Hi Nick, i should imagine they sent a stream of them which could be identified. I know what you are saying though as these things will pass through the planet :eyebrows: They'd definately need to be sure that what was received were the Neutrinos that were transmitted.

Some kind of encoded stream springs to mind :)
Beechwoods
24-09-2011, 19:27
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;)
Reid Malenfant
24-09-2011, 19:31
:lolsign: Something like that aye :eyebrows:
Stratmangler
24-09-2011, 19:33
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Beechwoods
24-09-2011, 19:48
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Ali Tait
24-09-2011, 21:14
Call me a 'faster than light denier' but the thing I have a problem with is how they identified that neutrino 'A' spotted in Geneva was the very same neutrino 'A' entering Gran Sasso :scratch:

Do neutrino's have RFI tags these days?!


The neutrinos were aimed at the detectors in Italy by CERN.
Stratmangler
24-09-2011, 21:18
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Accepted :)
Greg2010
24-09-2011, 23:47
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DanJennings
25-09-2011, 16:02
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;)

:lolsign:
Stratmangler
25-09-2011, 23:22
Do you think we should start using Enigma encoding ? :eyebrows:
Beechwoods
26-09-2011, 06:34
It would take a few years longer to read each post, unless you have a machine lying around you can spare!