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Spur07
10-08-2011, 08:13
Hi guys

I need some speaker cable to fit the bare wire, push-fit connecters on the back of my late 70's amplifier. I've tried my Naim Nac but the core is just too thick and even though I stripped half the wire away to make it fit the rigid inflexibility of the Nac causes endless problems.

Any recommendations for a decent, flexible cable with an appropriate sized core? Or would it be easier/better to convert the amp to banana connections?

Your experience much appreciated. :)

John
10-08-2011, 08:50
How about just getting a connector that allows you to go from one to the other Paul I am pretty sure you local Maplin would be able to help. It save buyin new cables I have cricklewood electronics locally so could even get for you I presume you have standard banana terminals

Effem
10-08-2011, 11:49
As far as I am aware there is no adaptor available to convert standard 4mm banana plugs to fit into the spring loaded terminals.

What I used to do is get a set of BFA hollow connectors and squeeze the ends down with a pair of pliers to fit the hole in the spring terminals.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FMTt5VPJL._AA1500_.jpg

They take cable up to 10mm and are double screw type so no soldering

http://www.amazon.co.uk/High-Quality-Banana-Plugs-assembly/dp/B00525YKM2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1312976817&sr=8-9

Techno Commander
10-08-2011, 12:40
I'm not sure I can make those out. Do you have a bigger picture? :)

DSJR
10-08-2011, 13:29
What's wrong with 6A twin core mains wire???

If the above isn't deemed holy enough (:rolleyes: :ner:), then try this -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fisual-S-Flex-Studio-Grade-Speaker-Cable-2-x-1-5mm-/380337529504?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item588de222a0

There is a 0.75mm one as well as 2.5 and 4mm... :)

The Grand Wazoo
10-08-2011, 17:21
Belkin Speaker Pins - about a fiver:
http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=13438&source=froogle

I bought something similar years ago from Campaign Audio Design:
http://business.virgin.net/cad.cables/home.htm

They are made for precisely that job. You can also use them in binding posts if you change things around later.

http://p.gzhls.at/227191.jpg

Spur07
10-08-2011, 20:10
How about just getting a connector that allows you to go from one to the other Paul I am pretty sure you local Maplin would be able to help. It save buyin new cables I have cricklewood electronics locally so could even get for you I presume you have standard banana terminals

John

thanks, but I really need some new cables as they're going to be soldered directly to the x-overs attached to the speakers - the Nac is just to rigid and big to work this time otherwise I would have kept it.

I might try some of what dave's recommending, or maybe some Claude Van Damme from Mark

Spur07
10-08-2011, 20:13
As far as I am aware there is no adaptor available to convert standard 4mm banana plugs to fit into the spring loaded terminals.

What I used to do is get a set of BFA hollow connectors and squeeze the ends down with a pair of pliers to fit the hole in the spring terminals.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71FMTt5VPJL._AA1500_.jpg

They take cable up to 10mm and are double screw type so no soldering

http://www.amazon.co.uk/High-Quality-Banana-Plugs-assembly/dp/B00525YKM2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1312976817&sr=8-9

:lol:

Thanks Frank. I never thought of doing that but will definitely give it a try, just for the hell of it. Have you compared that method against a straight bare wire connection?

Spur07
10-08-2011, 20:16
Belkin Speaker Pins - about a fiver:
http://www.kikatek.com/product_info.php?products_id=13438&source=froogle

I bought something similar years ago from Campaign Audio Design:
http://business.virgin.net/cad.cables/home.htm

They are made for precisely that job. You can also use them in binding posts if you change things around later.

http://p.gzhls.at/227191.jpg

Thanks Chris - do these really fit into push fit connecters? Like Frank, I didn't think you could get anything like this.

The Grand Wazoo
10-08-2011, 20:25
You do mean spring connectors, don't you? If so, then yes, they do - that's what they're made for. The ridges on the shaft stop them from slipping between the jaws of the connectors.
I use them in my old receivers.
I've got my Yamaha wired up as a pre-amp at the moment & the cables are being loaned to a friend so he can have a play with an old amp of his Dad's, The receiver I'm currently using as a receiver(!) is a Pioneer which uses their own connectors (different again).

Otherwise I'd take a photo for you.

Spur07
10-08-2011, 20:33
Thanks.

It seems they're out of stock at the mo.

are they screw fit regarding the bare wire into the plug, or do they need soldering?

The Grand Wazoo
10-08-2011, 21:00
I think the Belkin ones are a crimp fit. However, the CAD ones that I have are solder only.

Plenty of other folks offering the Belkins though:

http://www.netshop.co.uk/productcategorydetail.aspx?categoryid=54290
http://www.computerplaza.uk.com/detail.aspx?ID=31912
http://www.mexpress.me.uk/t3/product.php?id=808138

Just the first 3 I came up with.


But your best bet (on price) could just be this place:
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/mobile-phone-accessories/belkin-blue-series-pureav-15-awg-flat-speaker.asp

You buy 8 pins and get a load of free cable thrown in for £1.10 - it'd be rude not to!!



Incidentally, if anyone has got the Belkin speaker cables with screw fit bananas & want this type of connector, they do these pins with a screw fit too!

http://www.softwareforless.com/cnet/I282912.jpg

Spur07
10-08-2011, 21:15
I think the Belkin ones are a crimp fit. However, the CAD ones that I have are solder only.

Plenty of other folks offering the Belkins though:

http://www.netshop.co.uk/productcategorydetail.aspx?categoryid=54290
http://www.computerplaza.uk.com/detail.aspx?ID=31912
http://www.mexpress.me.uk/t3/product.php?id=808138

Just the first 3 I came up with.


But your best bet (on price) could just be this place:
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/mobile-phone-accessories/belkin-blue-series-pureav-15-awg-flat-speaker.asp

You buy 8 pins and get a load of free cable thrown in for £1.10 - it'd be rude not to!!



Incidentally, if anyone has got the Belkin speaker cables with screw fit bananas & want this type of connector, they do these pins with a screw fit too!

http://www.softwareforless.com/cnet/I282912.jpg

Thanks again.

Blimey, £1.10 :)

HighFidelityGuy
11-08-2011, 12:07
If you want to swap the cable and would prefer to use bare wire, then solid core cable like that made by DNM would be good.