Modern and classic jazz . .

[jimdgoulding]

I can contribute quite a lot if there is an interest. Perhaps, you can, too. Well? :sofa:

[The Grand Wazoo]

Like Dexter said..............

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[magiccarpetride]

I can contribute quite a lot if there is an interest. Perhaps, you can, too. Well? :sofa:

Jazz is dead?

[Thing Fish]

I like Diana Krall.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Like the new AoS classical section, maybe this is the place for a little definition.

Modern Jazz = ?
Classic Jazz = ?

What do you reckon, Jim?

[Stratmangler]

Like the new AoS classical section, maybe this is the place for a little definition.

Modern Jazz = ?
Classic Jazz = ?

What do you reckon, Jim?

Nah !
I hate categorising music to start with - it's either good or bad (to me).
I'm currently playing Al Di Meola's "Elegant Gypsy".
Is is rock ?
Is it jazz ?
Is it flamenco ?

Nope, it's a combination of all of the above, and all the better for it.

[jimdgoulding]

Nah !
I hate categorising music to start with - it's either good or bad (to me).
I'm currently playing Al Di Meola's "Elegant Gypsy".
Is is rock ?
Is it jazz ?
Is it flamenco ?

Nope, it's a combination of all of the above, and all the better for it.

Well, once upon a time there was distinction. You wouldn't confuse Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers with anything other than jazz.

GW, it doesn't matter to me. I can highly recommend Art Blakey's Free For All (Blue Note) and his Live at Keystone 3 (Concord Jazz), that is if you like classic jazz. ECM is a label that features a lot of more modern and European jazz player/composers. Love a lot of it, also.

[The Grand Wazoo]

Well, that's fine, as I hate the use of genres too, but the thread title made a distinction between the two.

[lurcher]

I guess its all down to where you put the split. For me, I would say you could either say the split is

before "The Charlie Parker Story" -> Classic

Or you could move it later to

before "The shape of Jazz to come" -> Classic

Or

Before "In a Slient Way" -> Classic

Or

Before "Headhunters" -> Classic

And so on. Thats just the points I would pick from my collection.

[Neil McCauley]

FYI re Jazz: http://not-boring-honestly.blogspot.com/search/label/Music%3A%20Jazz

Regards

Howard

[WAD62]

A few newer outfits that are worth a check;

Polar Bear (described as nu-jazz, a horrible term, well worth checking out)
Acoustic Ladyland (a sort of subset of Polar Bear more Jazz/Punk, great live)
Led Bib (probably more traditional, but definitely not easy listening)

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[jimdgoulding]

Chris, Hi. I only meant to say that the thread is meant to be all inclusive. I recently got turned onto a pianist/composer named Craig Taborn. I've just ordered one of his CD's, actually. Cheers.

Dat funky, Will!

[WAD62]

Dat funky, Will!

...I have to admit to being a bit of a late starter with Jazz, but I can thoroughly recommend any of Polar Bear's 3 albums, 'Held on the Tips of Fingers', 'Polar Bear' (from which the youtube clip is from), and 'Peepers' their latest and probably most err... experimental.

Probably Jazz traditionalist would view them more a 'crossover' band, but they've opened my eyes a lot more to the genre...which must be a good thing ;)

[Slippershod]

Nah !
I hate categorising music to start with - it's either good or bad (to me).
I'm currently playing Al Di Meola's "Elegant Gypsy".
Is is rock ?
Is it jazz ?
Is it flamenco ?

Nope, it's a combination of all of the above, and all the better for it.

Amen

[The Grand Wazoo]

I'm was kind of intrigued to see how long this thread can go without mention of the 'big three' jazz albums, but I suppose I've just done it!

Some of my big picks from the jazz catalogue:

Dexter Gordon - 'Go' (as pictured above) - actually pretty much anything Dexter did, I'm happy with!

Tommy Chase - 'Groove Merchant'
Brilliant propulsive drumming - someone on the web described Tommy Chase as "a football hooligan Art Blakey"

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The album is pretty hard to come by now, I think, but it's on Spotify if you're interested.


Cannonball Adderley - 'Something Else'

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The Miles Davis Quintet - the series of albums that we call the 'Ings' in this house:

'Cookin'
'Relaxin'
'Workin'
'Walkin'
'Steamin'

Classic Prestige albums from 1954 & '56 - still available at £10 for the lot here:
http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/GuardianOffers/_nmpwm5jx/-/Davis-%26amp

[John]

Well I can listen to Dixie to Bebop to Fusion
Early Louis is great you can just hear so much music influnced from his playing
I am big Django fan For me most good jazz seems to come from Amercia but this is very European and he is one of the few people I consider to be a guitar genius
I love players like John Coltrane Miles Davis Sonny Rollins; man these guys could play
There been some great singers too Ella live at Berlin is just fun and she still can really sing Nina is hit and miss but when she is hit boy can she sing If you want to hear what I consider the ultimate protest song listen to Strange Fruit by Billy Holiday
I love a good bit of fusion I guess this is how I got into Jazz Al Di Meola Larry Carlton Mahvishnu Orchestra Alan Holdsworth
One of the exicting things happening at the moment is the mixiture of cultures people like Surinder Sandhu Amour Braham and Natin have their own unique voice

[jimdgoulding]

Fixin to spin . . Programmed- Innerzone Orchestra and Annular Gift- Vandermark 5.

[jimdgoulding]

Well I can listen to Dixie to Bebop to Fusion
Early Louis is great you can just hear so much music influnced from his playing
I am big Django fan For me most good jazz seems to come from Amercia but this is very European and he is one of the few people I consider to be a guitar genius
I love players like John Coltrane Miles Davis Sonny Rollins; man these guys could play
There been some great singers too Ella live at Berlin is just fun and she still can really sing Nina is hit and miss but when she is hit boy can she sing If you want to hear what I consider the ultimate protest song listen to Strange Fruit by Billy Holiday
I love a good bit of fusion I guess this is how I got into Jazz Al Di Meola Larry Carlton Mahvishnu Orchestra Alan Holdsworth
One of the exicting things happening at the moment is the mixiture of cultures people like Surinder Sandhu Amour Braham and Natin have their own unique voice
Re: Fusion. One album that communicates to my inner groove is Love, Devotion, Surrender with McLaughlin, Santana, Jan Hammer, Doug Rauch, and Billy Cobham, in particular the last track. Whew, Cobham is on fire!
Some of Tony Williams later recordings are very persuasive, also.
Ran across this one the other night . . Sunset Glow by Julie and Keith Tippetts. You guys should know of them. And, Primitive Guitars by Phil Manzanera might be included in the genre. Regardless, it's excellent music.

[Barry]

I'm was kind of intrigued to see how long this thread can go without mention of the 'big three' jazz albums, but I suppose I've just done it!

Some of my big picks from the jazz catalogue:

Dexter Gordon - 'Go' (as pictured above) - actually pretty much anything Dexter did, I'm happy with!

Tommy Chase - 'Groove Merchant'
Brilliant propulsive drumming - someone on the web described Tommy Chase as "a football hooligan Art Blakey"

5JHFm6DLABU

The album is pretty hard to come by now, I think, but it's on Spotify if you're interested.


Cannonball Adderley - 'Something Else'

I1VwBawu6Z0



The Miles Davis Quintet - the series of albums that we call the 'Ings' in this house:

'Cookin'
'Relaxin'
'Workin'
'Walkin'
'Steamin'

Classic Prestige albums from 1954 & '56 - still available at £10 for the lot here:
http://www.guardianoffers.co.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/GuardianOffers/_nmpwm5jx/-/Davis-%26amp

Not sure it's jazz, but what the Hell, we're not going to be slaves to classification:

Scott Joplin - Piano Rags

I think the 'usual culprits' have already been mentioned (apart from Charles Mingus).

Regarding the above cited Miles Davis, well Chris you have just reminded me to snap up the "Ings", which I have done - along with the Coltrane for good measure! :)

Regards

[The Grand Wazoo]

Regarding the above cited Miles Davis, well Chris you have just reminded me to snap up the "Ings", which I have done - along with the Coltrane for good measure!

Now that's a wise move, Barry! I bought the Coltrane set too, despite already having some of it on vinyl.

[BTH K10A]

Hiromi Uehara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJhf0DW7GKk&feature=player_embedded

[WAD62]

That reminds me...

Soil & "pimp" Sessions, a bit of 'japanese death jazz'

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[jimdgoulding]

Last night I listened to two releases from Jan Garabek/Bobo Stenson Quartet on ECM, Dansere (1976) and Witchi-Tao-To (1973). The closing track on the latter, Desireless, is 20 minutes long and the best thing that ever happened to Garabek to these ears is Bobo Stenson, and Palle Danielson, and Jon Christenson. It is a superb piece. Danielson's instrument is beautifully recorded and his playing is profoundly good. I just love that selection. Stenson is amazing and very passionate and long playing, thankfully. You can't just sample it, however, cause it takes a while for it to unfold. It's one of those tunes that builds momentum. But, you can buy it and I sure would recommend that jazz fans do. The 15 minute title track on Dansere is very arresting, also.

[Werner Berghofer]

It's one of those tunes that builds momentum.

Since the late 1970’s “Dansere” and “Desireless” belong both to my personal all-time favourites from Jan Garbarek’s work. If you like these tracks I recommend also his later recordings like “In praise of dreams”, “Rites”, “Twelve moons”, “Visible world” and “Legend of the seven dreams”.

I’ve heard Jan Garbarek three times on various festivals and enjoyed each of these gigs very much.

Werner.

[slate]

Just giving Tom Scott's Target a spin... welll the only thing spinning is the harddrive:eyebrows:

I have not heard this record for many years. Had to go and turn the volume up as this is years (1983) before the loudness war begun.
The recording is as good as I remember it, but those 80's electronic drums on some of the tracks annoyes me now... why oh why didn't they use old fashioned drums. But hey that was how it sounded back then.

If you want to sample a bit http://www.amazon.co.uk/Target/dp/B001EYWH16/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313265283&sr=8-2

My favorite tracks:1,4,5,7

A live recording of Target... quite a backing band http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1rJ4hpG18

[jimdgoulding]

For you hard bop jazz aficianados, to include myself, you might find the article under the cover photo of Hank Mobley written by yours truly useful or amusing at the site below.

By the way, this is a pretty well thought out online magazine from Australia. Get a load of the article about the wooden tonearm. Wow. In past issues which are accessible at the site, I've also written about Gil Evans, the recording quality of some Scandinavian labels, and more. Good articles about speakers and room acoustics abound and your comments about any featured article are welcomed at the site. Enjoy.

http://www.hifizine.com/

[Mika K]

Have not lately been reading this but if not familiar yet, please check out Jim Blacks latest album..

http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/012/038/0001203840_350.jpg

[Jac Hawk]

Jazz is dead?

Clearly it isn't:ner:

At the moment i'm really into a New Orleans group called Galactic, not strictly Jazz, more a Jazz/Funk kinda sound, anyway IMHO they're awesome

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[jimdgoulding]

Clearly it isn't:ner:

At the moment i'm really into a New Orleans group called Galactic, not strictly Jazz, more a Jazz/Funk kinda sound, anyway IMHO they're awesome

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I go to New Orleans every now and again. These cats are playin? I'm gonna check them out. Thanks.

[Jac Hawk]

I go to New Orleans every now and again. These cats are playin? I'm gonna check them out. Thanks.

I'm off to Myrtle Beach SC for Oktoberfest, they're playing there, so i'm looking forward to seeing em live, the album "YA KA MAY" is well worth buying in my opinion, their web site is http://www.galacticfunk.com/

[Mika K]

I checked one gig from telly some time ago and now noticed that few songs from that can be found from Youtube also. The band is called Jo Stance named after the vocalist Johanna Försti but the band at the backround is actually the most interesting part imho as it's kind of allstar band of the finnish top young generation jazz artists as Verneri Pohjola, Timo Lassy and Teppo Mäkynen to name a few.

Check these clips out:

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EDIT: If more interested of the band at the backround check also Youtube offerings for The Five Qorners Quintet.

[jimdgoulding]

Three ladies tonite . .

Deeper- Maria Neckham (Sunnyside). A very hip little jazz singer and composer/arranger from Austria currently residing in Brooklyn by way of an ashram from the sound of her lyrics. She has a unique gift for what notes go where and a perfect group for what she is doing.

Maria Schneider- Sky Blue (Artists Share). Wonderful orchestrations and playing reminicent of Gil Evans.

Angela Strehli- Deja Blue (House of Blues). Good and clear HDCD recording of the best white girl blues singer I have ever heard. Get a load of the title track and the fierce guitar playing of Mike Schermer.

[jazzpiano]

I think of jazz as simply being jazz first, and that is how I would categorize it. Now if someone expresses an interest in jazz to me I may mention a few artists and describe them as "be-bop or Charlie Parker influenced" (Barry Harris), or "more a branch off the Ellington tree" (some Mingus and MJQ), "a little experimental or third stream" (certain Jimmy Giuffre, Chico Hamilton records), or "pre-modern, more Chicago bar room or deep-south rag/dixie-like" (Art Hodes, Doc Cheatham)... and then have them listen to examples to see what they might gravitate towards. I'm not an authority but I think we can start by just calling it jazz. I don't feel the need to define for others what is or isn't jazz.

Best,
Barry

[alexthemusicbloke]

An album I've been listening to a lot in the last year or so:

http://www.ongen.net/album/20100324/al0000202052_large.jpg

Brad Mehldau - Highway Rider. Wonderful album - very dark production too...