Faulty CD-r?

[Tea24]

I recently bought a second hand Pioneer PDR-609 CD recorder and it works really well. However of the first 4 Cds I burnt I seem to have had 2 duff ones. The first simply stopped in the middle of recording at about track 12 & wouldn even finalise. The second recorded fine but on playing back on my usual CD player some (but not all) tracks seem to 'skip' along; the sound is jerky & the seconds display goes too fast. It sounds fine on the Pioneer however. My other CD player is a Quad 66 which was serviced by Quad some 3 or 4 years ago & plays commercial CDs without a problem. The CD-r's are Sony, but God knows who actually makes them.

Anyone had a similar experience, can offer any suggestions?

[sparrow]

From my experience cd recorders don't last long and are on occassions temperamental. I've had recordings abort half way through for no apparent reason. They are also getting harder to get new as they were never very popular.

[MartinT]

Those discs are only price uplifted, Andr'e, to include the music copyright royalty. There is no physical difference between them and a computer CD-R.

The ones to avoid are CD-R/W as many players can't cope with reading them.

Sounds like the laser on this recorder is on its way out. Computer writing drives fail fairly regularly with similar laser problems.

[Ammonite Audio]

This Pioneer PDR-609 recorder was mine and is rather young in terms of hours of use, so I would be surprised if the laser was on its way out. Before I sold it to Julian I used it to record some vinyl over at Snoopdog's, using an old Verbatim Audio CDRW, which was fine. I did promise Julian that I'd send him that CDRW and promptly forgot, so I shall send it over to France in the next day or so.

I always recorded onto a freshly erased CDRW before transferring the files onto the PC for editing, then burning to a perfectly ordinary computer CDR. This is a much cheaper way of doing things than recording straight onto Audio CDRs, since the same CDRW can be used indefinitely.

[Tea24]

Yes; the machine seems to be in fine fettle. For me it is faulty CDs. After all who knows who makes Sony's CDs these days - I feel sure they are not made in house but farmed out.

[WOStantonCS100]

I gave my son my PDR-509 a couple of years ago. I believe the only difference compared to the PDR-609 is CD-TEXT. In the beginning (first year) this unit worked flawlessly; but, very quickly things started to get squirly. "Stopping in the middle" of a recording became more common along with taking a long time to recognize a disc or not being able to recognize one at all, whether it was a "pressed CD", a CD-R or a CD-R/W. I maybe got 30-40 good full length recordings out of it. It works when it wants to. I was mostly using it as a spare A/D converter before passing it on. Hopefully, you'll have better luck.

[Reid Malenfant]

Those discs are only price uplifted, Andr'e, to include the music copyright royalty. There is no physical difference between them and a computer CD-R.
Sorry Martin but i must disagree ;) There is a physical difference that a stand alone CD recorder can recognise, they'll reject computer type CDRs :( There is a much bigger built in wobble on the track that the CD recorder recognises. Blank computer CDRs can record a heck of a lot faster as the track is vastly more linear with less wobble & therefore much easier for the laser to track at high speed :)

I used to format with an audio CD on my Traxdata recorder & when on record pause pull out the tray & replace the audio CDR with a computer type & slide it back in. The machine was then convinced it was recording to an audio CDR & was quite happy :eyebrows:

[Ammonite Audio]

I believe that the Traxdata machine is related to the Pioneer, so the same trick should work with the PDR-609.

[Reid Malenfant]

The Traxdata is a reboxed Philips, so it'd definately work on a Philips machine. I guess it might be worth trying it on any at the end of the day.

The way to do it is after it has done it's calibration run & in record pause mode. I use a small bit of 0.7mm solid core copper wire bent so i can hook it underneath the draw & then gently pull the draw out. Change the disc for a PC type & then gently push it back in again & your ready to go.

I used to get about 50 or so calibrations out of one audio CDR & when it started messing up i'd then record on that & break out a new disc for calibration purposes :)

[MartinT]

Sorry Martin but i must disagree ;) There is a physical difference that a stand alone CD recorder can recognise, they'll reject computer type CDRs :( There is a much bigger built in wobble on the track that the CD recorder recognises.

I stand corrected. Apologies.

[Reid Malenfant]

As they say, you learn something new every day :) That's what i like about this place as i find myself picking up all sorts of scraps of knowledge without consciously knowing it :eyebrows:

[MartinT]

Oh definitely. I can say that I have learned a great deal from AoS members while on here. More power to AoS :)