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Dutch oven prime rib roast,Asparagus,potato salad and butter milk bisects with hollandaise sauce and a Horseradish based dipping sauce.
What did you make for Easter Dinner?
Do tell!
Hi Jeff,
See my post here: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?p=208156#post208156
:)
Looks like a nice piece of beef you had!
Marco.
The Grand Wazoo
25-04-2011, 00:16
Biscuits!
That means something so different in the UK to the what it means to you guys in the States, Jeff.
A biscuit here is what you call a cookie.
The nearest thing to what you know as a biscuit would be a scone, I suppose. Now, I dare you to try suggesting to Marco or some of the other Scots guys here that they might like some gravy on their scones.....and that it's perfectly sensible to do that even at breakfast time!
Looks good though!
Our day went like this:
We went for a trip through the Forest of Bowland (which is not a forest in the 'tree' sense of the word!) and stopped off at a pub right at the top of the Pennines on the border between Lancashire & North Yorkshire & scoffed home-made tomato soup & a rump steak burger with some beer.
http://img01.beerintheevening.com/01/01c96a2e0241819e31ae98a2022e0c35.jpg
Then we took the dog for a long hike in Gisburn Forest (this one is a tree-type forest!), then up higher to Bowland Knotts for an incredible view.
http://www.mypennines.co.uk/images/bowland/on-bowland-knotts.JPG
Then a spin back through the Trough of Bowland which is right at our back door
http://where2walk.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/d033/trough-of-bowland.jpg
When we got home we were too pooped for food!
(Not my photos, by the way, just scoured from the web)
Lovely views, Chris, and I like the look of that pub! :)
Btw, Jeff wrote "bisects", not biscuits, although it doesn't make much difference, as I've no idea what bisects are either.....
Marco.
The Grand Wazoo
25-04-2011, 00:35
Yep, bisects!
He may well have cut it in half for all I know, but that there is a biscuit mate!
It's a bit like a savoury scone, but you eat it with gravy (which is a bit like a bechamel sauce but often with pork fat). Big breakfast fodder over in them ex-colonial lands mate. But also dinner too!
Butter milk Bisects are made with butter milk,and can be eaten with just butter much like a scone. But even more flaky and crispy on the outside and soft and buttery on the inside.
Marco You can cook!,tell me about the cauliflower dish?
What do you guys call cheese cake?
The Grand Wazoo
25-04-2011, 07:46
Cheesecake?
.....we call it Cheesecake!
Hi Jeff,
Butter milk Bisects are made with butter milk,and can be eaten with just butter much like a scone. But even more flaky and crispy on the outside and soft and buttery on the inside.
Sounds good, although I'm not a big sweet person.
Marco You can cook!,tell me about the cauliflower dish?
Lol... Sadly I can take no credit for any of that. It's all the work of Del (my wife), who is a fabulous cook. I am very lucky :)
The cauliflower, incidentally, was with mustard seeds, and not wholegrain mustard, as I had thought.
Ok, here's how to do it:
Steam the cauliflower florets for 2 or 3 minutes, and then in a frying pan, put in some butter, olive oil and mustard seeds.
Heat the mustard seeds until they pop a little bit. Then put a couple of tablespoons of cream in the pan, and a touch of Turmeric, some salt and pepper to taste, and add the cauliflower florets, stir though, and serve - lurvely! :cool:
Marco.
anthonyTD
25-04-2011, 09:21
Del is an absolutely cracking cook,
i have been very lucky to have sampled a few of here creations.
I am quite a fussy eater [and she knows that] but if she recomends something i know it will be good!:)
Marco's a bit special on the wine front though!
Anthony,TD...
sorry I dont know if you noticed, but your meat was raw ! :-)
I'm sure I could hear a mooooo from it !
Rare Bird
25-04-2011, 13:12
:lolsign:
sorry I dont know if you noticed, but your meat was raw ! :-)
I'm sure I could hear a mooooo from it !
Aye, a decent vet would have that running round again.
Dont think i could cope with all that fat :eek:
Always remember, fat = flavour ;)
Everyone likes their meat cooked to different degrees. Personally, I go for medium-rare.
Too many Brits though, in my experience, like beef cremated to a crisp, to the extent that you may as well be eating shoe leather!! :rolleyes:
Marco.
I like mine well down and not going to mooo or attack me when I put a knife and fork in it !
:fence:
Sfunny Marco, I thought animal fat meant HEART ATTACK :lolsign:
But, yes, its true in my experience as well the British have a habit of boiling veg to death and turning meat to leather :mental:
I know, and it's bloody boggin! And no wonder most say that they hate veg... The reason is, they've never tasted fresh stuff cooked properly (not boiled to a pulp)!! :doh:
The food culture in this country, compared with in Italy (despite us having world-class produce), is an uttter shambles, but let's not go there....... :rolleyes:
As for fat, meat, etc, the secret lies in a balanced diet and exercise. One should only eat a little red meat, something our American friends, and no offence to Jeff, don't seem to grasp ;)
I tend mostly to eat chicken, lamb and pork, and Del is a veggie! We love pasta, though, of any description (and rice). Del makes her own sauce from fresh tomatoes and basil, etc, and mostly (when she has time) her own pasta - you can't beat it like that!
Marco.
Del is an absolutely cracking cook,
i have been very lucky to have sampled a few of here creations.
I am quite a fussy eater [and she knows that] but if she recomends something i know it will be good!:)
Marco's a bit special on the wine front though!
Thanks for the compliment, mate. You're always welcome here :)
Becky does a mean bacon sarnie!
Marco.
”The food culture in this country, compared with in Italy, is an uttter shambles, but let's not go there....... ”
Oh go on, lets ;)
It’s something that has bugged me for years.
True about red meat consumption as well, we (well the Americans and British) tend to eat far to much of it and given the veg has had any goodness boiled out of it, don’t get the vitamins to adequately digest and combat the fatty acids.
Add to that out reluctance to eat fruit and a fondness for sweet stodgy puddings and I’m surprised we don’t all die of bad diet.
I personally adore Italian cooking and I don’t mean Pizza. One of the best part of going to Italy is having some proper Italian cooking served up and a decent amount of time spent eating rather than the stuff it down yer greedy burp as fast as possible and get going that I must confess I’m as guilty of as most.
Sicilians do nice food as well, but more fish than meat based. Got to love a swordfish steak and a crisp salad in a local dressing.
Reid Malenfant
25-04-2011, 15:07
What's all this about boiled veg? :scratch: Have you guys ever heard of steaming things :eyebrows:
I'm afraid i'm with Marco on the beef or steak thing, some fat for flavour & self basting & if it doesn't bleed on the plate it's over done ;)
Just had my main meal of the day & veggies consisted of cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, carrots, sprouts, petit pois, peppers, mushrooms & whole green beans (all steamed). I never boil vegetables..
Beef: Cut it's horns off, wipe it's ass, and put it on the plate.
I usually cook a fillet steak for 3 minutes each side, on a very hot gas barbeque - yes, it still has a pulse, but the juices and flavours compared to overcooking it (anything more than medium rare, in my book) are awesome. We're having exactly that for dinner this evening - along with a fresh rocket salad, some cous cous, coleslaw and if I can be
arsed some potato salad. And a nice bottle of Amarone. :)
Yep, steaming is good.
I tend to boil sprouts and root veg but steam the leafy stuff.
I don’t in general eat much red meat but sure, some fat helps the flavor but I don’t eat it; makes me feel sick just thinking about trying to chew my way through it, particularly lamb fat.
Fresh, grilled sardines on wholemeal bread with raw spinach, rocket and sundried tomatoes followed by fruit salad in Greek yogurt for my dinner.
Rare Bird
25-04-2011, 15:50
People cook Veg too long, why? :scratch:..
i refuse to eat a joint that's bleeding :spew:..
I love good food but i also like Special kebabs with Garlic sauce & salad the size of Birmingham :D
i refuse to eat a joint that's bleeding :spew:..
totally agree !
I don't do anything special when it comes to eating during the traditional holidays. (Everyday is a holiday for me.)
Whilst constantly being told that one should not too much red meat, beef is my favourite meat and I eat it in one form or another once a week. Elsewhen it will be either chicken (though I cannot stand roast chicken - the smell or it roasting makes me want to puke!), pork or lamb. I also like liver and will make a meal with that once a month.
Apart from that, I love pasta (of all description), though I don't go so far as to make my own, I do use fresh pasta.
I'm now learning to enjoy fish a lot more than I used to. Always poached or baked, never fried.
Regarding steaks, whether it is rump, fillet, T-bone, filet mignon or chateaubriand, doesn't really matter to me as long as it is cooked properly. For me that means medium rare (somewhere between un steak saignant and un steak à point): I cannot eat bloody meat and any that is uncooked I find impossible to swallow and if I do it is involuntary regurgitated; so no steak tartare for me.
I loath fat, but understand that it adds to the flavour, so will cook meat with it on and then cut every scrap away before I eat.
Vegatables - well one can't have too much veg. I steam everything except potatoes and carrots (unless the latter are cut small).
Bon appetit!
Hi John,
It’s something that has bugged me for years.
And me. But if I 'start' on this subject, I won't stop, as I have very passionate views on the matter! ;)
I personally adore Italian cooking and I don’t mean Pizza.
Lol! It's amazing how little people here know about real Italian food, although there's nothing wrong with pizza, done properly - and that means home-made from scratch, and thin and crispy (with very simple and few ingredients, all of which are the freshest and best quality possible), and cooked in a wood or clay oven (much like Indian Naan bread).
The commercial abomination known as the 'Stuffed Crust' and/or anything 'Deep Pan', or topped with bloody pineapple, would see an Italian run for the hills!!
One of the best part of going to Italy is having some proper Italian cooking served up and a decent amount of time spent eating rather than the stuff it down yer greedy burp as fast as possible and get going that I must confess I’m as guilty of as most.
Totally agree, and that's one of the biggest problems in this country. Everyone's running about like headless chickens, working until 'stupid o'clock' trying to pay huge mortgages to fund a lifestyle they can't really afford. And before they know it, they're dead and buried, and for what??
It's utter bollocks! :mental:
Where my family come from, in rural Tuscany, people are content living in quite basic homes, mostly farms, and lead much simpler lives, with less material possessions. I bet that they're happier and more content with their life than about 80% of the people who live in the UK!
Consequently, they don't have to work ridiculously long hours, and therefore can spend time with their family and loved ones, enjoying a proper meal TOGETHER at the table, talking to each other and enjoying lovely home-made food, and wine (often produced by themselves), whilst the TV remains blissfully switched off!
Sadly, most of my older relatives are now dead, who used to cook these meals, but I have fond memories as a boy spending five or six hours over lunch, eating outside in glorious sunshine under the pergola, which on special occasions, such as birthdays and First Communions, could run to over a dozen different courses of the most gob-smacking amazing home-made food imaginable, most of it from their own produce.
This is where I get my food culture from - that and being brought up with a mother and grandmothers, aunts, etc, who are/were all superb cooks. So of course I had to make sure that I married one! ;)
Of course, what I described above from my childhood is never going to happen here, but 'TV dinners' (comprising mostly of microwave muck) have killed off the precious (and very valuable) time families used to spend eating together at the table. The old adage is so true: Brits (in general) eat to live; it is merely 'fuel', and Italians (and the French, oh and probably most other nations) live to eat!
I kid you not, I've sat in bars and cafes in Italy listening to men talking about their favourite recipes for wild mushroom risotto, and how they spend hours searching the countryside for the required Porcini mushrooms, or sharing their tips for the best pasta sauce! And they're *so* passionate about it. Can you imagine that happening here?? :lol:
All they want to do here is get pished!
Anyway, like I said, don't get me started on this, because I'll bore you to death (if I haven't done so already)....
Sicilians do nice food as well, but more fish than meat based. Got to love a swordfish steak and a crisp salad in a local dressing.
I've never been to Sicily, but have no doubt that you're right. We intend to go one year soon :)
Marco.
in rural Tuscany, people are content living in quite basic homes, mostly farms, and lead much simpler lives and have less material possessions. I bet that they're happier and more content with their lot in life than about 80% of the people who live in the UK!
I bet they've got sh!t hifi systems though... :eyebrows:
;)
Where my family come from, in rural Tuscany, people are content living in quite basic homes, mostly farms, and lead much simpler lives and have less material possessions. I bet that they're happier and more content with their lot in life than about 80% of the people who live in the UK!
Totally agree there, I used to live on an Island of 1,500 people, I had a small house with only the very bare essentials inside, an old beat up Jeep and not much else. Most other people were the same, material possessions were not what was important, having a good time and friends/family was top of the list. Happiest years of my life - mind you the weather helped as everyone was out all the time, homes were just somewhere you slept in or had barbecue's and parties...... oh those parties
:comatose:
Beef: Cut it's horns off, wipe it's ass, and put it on the plate.
Thats how i had my ribeye today and not chewy at all just melt in the mouth stuff.:thumbsup:
Veggies should be crunchy and not soft with all the goodness boiled out of them
Veggies should be crunchy and not soft with all the goodness boiled out of them
Now, John, that's no way to treat vegetarians! :lol:
Marco.
I used to live on an Island of 1,500 people, I had a small house with only the very bare essentials inside, an old beat up Jeep and not much else. Most other people were the same, material possessions were not what was important, having a good time and friends/family was top of the list. Happiest years of my life - mind you the weather helped as everyone was out all the time, homes were just somewhere you slept in or had barbecue's and parties...... oh those parties
Lol - I can imagine! :eyebrows:
So why are folk here so obsessed with material possessions and intent on complicating their lives?
Marco.
So why are folk here so obsessed with material possessions and intent on complicating their lives?
I have thought about that and I think the weather does have a lot to do with it. We spend a lot of time cooped up in our nests, so surround ourselves with crap - bit like magpies. If the weathers great and you are out socialising all the time, homes/material possessions seem less important. Nobody gave a rats arse about what you wore over there either, shorts and T shirts all the time.
And our media fuelled fixation with property and wealth doesn't help either :scratch:
Agreed. Weather is a big factor, but so is also education and culture. So why the hell did you leave that island? :doh:
Arf!
I bet they've got sh!t hifi systems though... :eyebrows:
Lol... Actually, some of the younger ones, who are into music seriously, have surprisingly decent systems! But cars (scooters and motorbikes) are where their real passion lies, as well as hunting and shooting (animals, that is).... ;)
Marco.
This may upset some of you but prime rib is suppose to be red in the middle and you pay extra for more fat in a grade A rib roast.The mussels of an animal that aren't used are the most tender.Meat close to bone has the best flavor IE prime rib is from the back strap area and in my opinion the best part of the cow.But there is more waste than with a filet minion.
More important is how it's prepared and cooked (never over cooked).
I bring the roast to room temp,wrap it with twine,pat it dry with a paper towl then pour clarified butter over it (pure Desi Ghee) for our Indian friends, Then I sprinkle a heavy amount of Kosher salt all over every inch of it.(locks in the juices)
Then I put it in an uncovered cast iron dutch oven and put fresh Rosemary,white onions and garlic over the top of it and pre heat the oven to 460 F. After searing it for 10 to 15 min.I reduce the temp to 325 F and let it go 20 min. per pound. Take it out and put the cover on it for 15 min. so the juices are sucked back into the roast. The center of the roast must reach 160+ F.
Take it out cut the stings and cut it away from the Ribs using a carving knife.(Always cook the roast with the ribs in place it costs a little more but the bones add to the flavor.)
I then cut it into 1 inch steaks then serve with a special side of.
1 spoon horseradish,1 spoon sour cream,2 spoons real mayonnaise and 1/2 spoon Worcestershire sauce and a few drops of fresh lemon juice all whisked together.
Rare Bird
25-04-2011, 23:03
How long is it before your on the throne after eating one of those then Jeff? :lolsign:
Andre, that all depends on how many Beers I drink with it...
Lol....
Jeff, just out of interest, do you drink wine? I ask simply because, as an obvious foodie, I've never seen you mention any nice wine you've enjoyed with your meals.
For me, no nice meal is complete without a bottle of good red, or white, if we're having fish or some white meats :)
Marco.
The Grand Wazoo
25-04-2011, 23:17
Bone & fat = flavour.
Flavour in steak is all but forgotten in the UK in favour of tenderness.
I threatened it before, but one of these days, I'll type out my recipe for '24 hour steak'.
The abridged version: you cook a rib joint on the bone on a really low oven for about 20 hours. Then you cut it off the bone & leave it to stand for a few more hours, after which you carve off the leathery outer surfaces & slice it into steaks. Flash fry the steaks in a searing hot pan for about 2 minutes a side (for medium rare).
Bob's yer Auntie's live in lover: the best steak you will ever eat!
Bone & fat = flavour.
Flavour in steak is all but forgotten in the UK in favour of tenderness.
I threatened it before, but one of these days, I'll type out my recipe for '24 hour steak'.
The abridged version: you cook a rib joint on the bone on a really low oven for about 20 hours. Then you cut it off the bone & leave it to stand for a few more hours, after which you carve off the leathery outer surfaces & slice it into steaks. Flash fry the steaks in a searing hot pan for about 2 minutes a side (for medium rare).
Bob's yer Auntie's live in lover: the best steak you will ever eat!
We hadn't forgotten, but what with chopping down trees you lead a very busy life, unlike we indolent ones.
Regards
[P.S. Your 'new' name has been noted and research is being carried out at this very moment! ;) ]
The Grand Wazoo
25-04-2011, 23:26
[P.S. Your 'new' name has been noted and research is being carried out at this very moment! ;) ]
Research is not required - I am actually a little teapot!
That was just a little something to keep you on yer toes 'til I can think of something that's not on Google!
Agreed. Weather is a big factor, but so is also education and culture. So why the hell did you leave that island? :doh:
Arf!
Good question, but family mostly, Mum died leaving Dad back here on his own - I often wonder what would my life be like if I had stayed there :cocktail:
Sounds great, Chris, so *do* it!
Bone & fat = flavour.
Flavour in steak is all but forgotten in the UK in favour of tenderness.
Too bloody right! Unless when doing Tournedos Rossini or Beef Wellington, I'll not touch fillet steak with a bargepole. Rib-eye, Sirloin or just plain old Rump are best. A nice T-bone is also awesome! But ALL beef MUST be well-hung, and thus suitably mature.
As for fat, I'm not a fan of eating it, but it simply must exist in the cooking process to ensure good flavour, in the same way as a quality (home-made) stock is essential for making a nice sauce or gravy... Good food is all about flavour, flavour, and more FLAVOUR!!
There's one time that fat is gorgeous to eat, though, and that's when it's nicely 'burnt & crispy' on some lovely grilled Welsh lamb cutlets - I sook the bones dry! :eyebrows:
As they say in some countries, if your face isn't all greasy at the end of a meal, and the tablecloth (and/or your shirt) covered in stains, then you haven't enjoyed yourself!!
Marco.
P.S Oh, and anyone who tries to eat meat on the bone with a knife and fork should be shot - use the hands that God gave you! ;)
Research is not required - I am actually a little teapot!
That was just a little something to keep you on yer toes 'til I can think of something that's not on Google!
Oh ye of little faith - "Bow before the might of Google!"
I realise it's nothing to do with Zappa, but I think some explanation is warranted for the edification of our members. And where better than to quote Wikipedia:
"The Teapot Song" (commonly known as "I'm a Little Teapot") is a song describing the heating and pouring of a teapot. The song was originally written by George Harry Sanders and Clarence Kelley and published in 1939. Ronnie Kemper first sang this song.
Though many variations have arisen over the years, the original lyrics are as follows (dance motions in parentheses):
First verse:
I'm a little teapot,
Short and stout,
Here is my handle (one hand on hip),
Here is my spout (other arm out with elbow and wrist bent),
When I get all steamed up,
Hear me shout,
Tip me over and pour me out! (lean over toward spout)
Second verse:
I'm a special teapot,
Yes, it's true,
Here's an example of what I can do,
I can turn my handle into a spout,
Tip me over and pour me out!
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Oi you two, this is a foodie thread, so keep yer Zappa baloney for the music room! ;)
Marco.
Oi you two, this is a foodie thread, so keep yer Zappa baloney for the music room! ;)
Marco.
Tea is an essential part of food and drink for me. And anyway I did say it had nothing to do with Zappa! :ner:
Lol... Tea is for poofs! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Lol... Tea is for poofs! :eyebrows:
Marco.
Don't let André hear you say that. He claims to drink something like 15 cups a day!
To say "tea is for poofs", is rather like saying wine is for poofs, whereas beer is for 'real' men.
I happen to like tea, coffee, beer and wine equally. :cool:
LOL - I know... Of course, I'm only pulling ya leg!
However, tea is a rather British thing, and thus has never really been a major feature in my life. My parents never drunk it much, so I guess I've taken after them.
In the morning, I have a lovely big frothy mug of cappuccino (or latte), with no sugar, sprinkled with chocolate, with my croissant and jam, and generally that's my caffeine 'hit' for the day. Occasionally, I'll have a mug of tea in the late afternoon (about 4pm) with a slice of Del's home-made fruit cake, but that's it.
There's something rather comforting about having a mug of tea (Yorkshire Gold), properly brewed in a pot, and a slice of cake, in the late afternoon....
However, if I'm not drinking wine, beer or (nice) cider, then it'll be freshly squeezed orange juice, sometimes with lemonade, ginger beer cordial, or more often than not, just sparkling mineral water with a slice of lemon :)
I don't 'do' fizzy drinks much, although occasionally an ice-cold, non-diet Coke (can't stand the taste of 'Nutrasweet' :spew:) hits the spot like nothing else! Tea I wouldn't thank you much for, other than as specified. I'd far rather have a nice espresso (preferably made with Bei e Nannini coffee beans), which I guess reflects my Italian roots!
Marco.
Rare Bird
26-04-2011, 00:50
Oh i love tea (has to be strong tho, no witch piss)..You can't beat the taste of tea from a China Cup tho.
Wine gets me i a tacking, especially in those massive glasses that hold like near half a bottle :eyebrows:
Beer, well i'm truly out of control with, always have been.. you'll have to drag me out of the Boozer with my hair or i'm in there till last orders :lolsign:
Whisky i'm extremely dangerous with, opening a bottle = finishing it, again i drink to much too soon :doh:
Marco, I seem to like dry red wines Merlo and Siraz are my favorites,more later.
Marco, I like an oak cask dry red,I like to taste different wines as I don't live far from Napa and Sonoma county's. Here in California you can get a pretty good bottle of vino really cheap.
At one of our high end wine stores there was a bottle of wine selling for $65.00 and at the
outlet the same bottle/same date $10.00 people where getting several cases.
There is a lot of over stock here,and reserve sell offs. some times .10 on the dollar!
But I am far more at home with a good pale ale, then comes a nice whiskey or Scotch.
I really like wine but don't enjoy drinking it alone for some odd reason.
And I don't know the names of winery's,and I suck at wine pairing.
I am a little turned off at the wine snobs here in California that boast about there $500.00 a bottle of ......
So I avoid them by drinking swill most of the time.
What is wrong with a good $15.00 bottle of wine anyway?
I did have a glass of 1965 red BV that was given to a political adviser my friends Dad,it was properly stored rotated and kept cool for 38 years before I sipped it and it was the smoothest wine I have ever had but I stopped him before he could tell me how much it was.I said If you tell me the price I won't feel comfortable drinking it. He smiled and said ENJOY!
The bragging that go's with the wine crowd here is kind of a turn off.
It's like a group of guys bragging on who has the most expensive jeans.
I like my jeans worn thin as pajamas!(comfortable)
I do like wine but my wife dose not drink,and wine is best enjoyed with some one.
Great attitude Jeff (as usual) - I have much contempt for wine snobbery, and "collecting" for either collecting's sake, or as an investment. I've enjoyed some fine wines in the past, but personally I wouldn't spend "mega bucks" on a bottle of wine that in reality will last an hour at most... (well, in my house, anyway!) If I'm paying $500 for an hours pleasure, I expect a lot more than just my taste buds or brain to be titillated! ;)
Rare Bird
26-04-2011, 23:30
Not catch me bragging about wine, it's three for a tenner from the Beer-off :lolsign:
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