iPhone Privacy Concerns ..does this bother you?

[Vinyleyes]

It has been discovered that the iPhone keeps a record of everywhere you go and stores it on the device, and automatically copies it to any other device you link the Iphone too .. all without you knowing ! Nobody knows why .. except, presumably, Mr Jobs himself .. :)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears

Does this kind of thing bother anyone else .. ? :scratch:

[Beechwoods]

It automatically copies itself to any machine the iPhone is set to sync / take a backup with; not quite the same thing. I personally don't find it a privacy concern - I was more disappointed when the application built by the guys that publicised this, wouldn't work on my version of OSX!

http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/

It's interesting that the iPhone gathers this kind of information without making the permission to do so opt-in though.

[Techno Commander]

Apple can legitimately claim that it has permission to collect the data: near the end of the 15,200-word terms and conditions for its iTunes program

Theres a good reason not to use I Tunes. :)

[Effem]

We never had any of these issues in the good old days when a bakelite phone was fashionable and a nice lady at the exchange put the call through for you :ner:

I dunno, what is the world coming to . . MUTTER MUTTER . . bring back steam engines on the railways . . . MUTTER . . MUTTER . . National Service for the feckless yoof . . MUTTER MUTTER . . I could go to the pictures, buy a packet of fags, fill up the car and still have change from a 10 bob note . . MUTTER MUTTER

[MartinT]

It's probably not too much of a privacy concern. What rankles more is Apple's attempt to be perceived as whiter-than-white when in fact they are as devious as Microsoft in their cavalier approach to customers.

[Effem]

It's probably not too much of a privacy concern. What rankles more is Apple's attempt to be perceived as whiter-than-white when in fact they are as devious as Microsoft in their cavalier approach to customers.

The list is much much longer than that . . . . Google and Facebook are also prime examples of seeing people's privacy as a commodity to be abused and sold on for cash.

I went on to a web energy comparison site a while back just for a quick quote and have been plagued by phone calls and letters from energy companies ever since. I didn't give my consent to pass on my contact details to all and sundry :steam:

[Tim]

I get very rankled about privacy, I'm just not comfortable with so much of my personal data being available and passed around for profit - I really dislike cold calling too. Managed to just about stop it now, not had one for many, many weeks now ........ :doh: that was the wrong thing to say wasn't it!

[Reid Malenfant]

What is that opt out thing for cold callers? Sorry but it's been so long since i signed up for it that i simply can't remember :scratch:

Effectively if your number is logged with these people & you get calls from firms trying to sell you something (that you don't already do business with) they can be fined quite a bit of money :eyebrows:

Take it from me, it does put a stop to just about all of it :)

[Tim]

What is that opt out thing for cold callers? Sorry but it's been so long since i signed up for it that i simply can't remember :scratch:

Effectively if your number is logged with these people & you get calls from firms trying to sell you something (that you don't already do business with) they can be fined quite a bit of money :eyebrows:

Take it from me, it does put a stop to just about all of it :)
Hmmm, there's more to it than that, I made it my mission to stop the buggers!

You opt out by signing up to the Phone Preference Service http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/, which will catch most if not all. BUT, that is only for callers trying to sell you something. There is a loop hole in the legislation which allows cold calling for 'market research purposes'. I got a few calls so started logging the numbers and Googling them. Mostly the same company doing 'Market Research' To stop them you have to actually say "Please can you add me to your do not call list". Otherwise they can just keep calling you :steam:

Not sure where I found it, but putting the numbers into Google led me to a forum where I found that was what you had to say to stop them. If they then continue they are in breach of the legislation regarding Market Research calling.

[Reid Malenfant]

That's it Tim, TPS!

Must admit i don't get too many market research people as i'm also ex directory :eyebrows:

You know i get the feeling that these people just start with a city number like mine (01733) & then just go through the lot systematically :mental:

[MartinT]

The TPS works, but it only applies to UK callers. Cold calls from abroad cannot be stopped in this way. I usually stop them dead with "remove my number from your list and DO NOT call me again", which has been quite successful.

[Tim]

Must admit i don't get too many market research people as i'm also ex directory :eyebrows:

Me too and my number has a permanent bar on it being displayed - I'm a funny bugger I guess, but I detest being called by anyone at home, unless it's friends or family (or a lost hooker:lolsign:)

[Beechwoods]

Companies with whom you have a relationship - ie. ones you are a customer of, do not have to screen against TPS, but many will anyway. It's definitely worth registering with, even if it doesn't stop everything.

[Beechwoods]

It seems Apple aren't the only ones at it.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/04/android-phones-keep-location-cache-too-but-its-harder-to-access.ars

[goraman]

I don't trust Apple.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/137432/20110423/apple-we-must-have-comprehensive-user-location-data-on-you.htm