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    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    All those MP3 download codes in vinyl, maybe they will swap to better fuller bandwidth downloads now. Thing is MP3 can sound not too bad if its reproduced with decent equipment.
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    All those MP3 download codes in vinyl, maybe they will swap to better fuller bandwidth downloads now. Thing is MP3 can sound not too bad if its reproduced with decent equipment.
    Last 2 records I bought had wav downloads with them. excellent I thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Last 2 records I bought had wav downloads with them. excellent I thought
    Not had any wav ones yet, but often I don't bother using the codes, a few times I tried the link was dead and you could not redeem the code anymore.
    Regards Neil

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    Hi Geoff
    I similarly reported a few days ago that MP3 licensing had ended.
    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...ow-patent-free
    It was arguably entirely replaced already, by Ogg and Flac. Samsung being one
    manufacturer who continually supported Ogg in the face of much pressure of MP3

    It is not exactly dead, as it can now be used without licensing which if anything makes it better.
    It has received renewed interest already by the Linux community,

    But as I say Ogg and Flac are much better choices if audio quality is desired. Ogg uses less file
    space as well. https://www.xiph.org/ogg/

    Supermarkets and lifts like the Blues Bros final few minutes might find homes for its continued use.

    Who knows too the Linux community might assess to make it better in quality, that's if improving its source
    code becomes available.

    In the world of computers Linux and free software will always win, because it is free not proprietary.
    The freedom to use the program as you wish, the freedom to copy and distribute to assist others, the
    freedom to modify the program to make it do what you want it to do, and the freedom to publish those
    modifications to assist others if you wish to take it that far.
    Cheers / Chris
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    yeah, not dead just available for rebirth as it's no longer patent encumbered.

    fraunhoffer would obviously like to see it dead as it's now essentially a competitor to whatever commercial offering they come up with next - could MQAs 'first to market' advantage be eaten up by 'brought to you by the people who brought you mp3' pitch they'll have.

    I dunno, what do I care, the only thing I've learned over the years is there's value in using open formats and not ceeding control of your stuff to business interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I read somewhere (sorry, forgot the exact sources) that some studies have shown how during blind tests, majority of people prefer the way mp3 sounds compared to the way lossless formats sound. Odd!
    Don't you just hate it when you cannot detect where the post ends and a signature line begins?

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    think it depends if its been eq-ed for mp3. A lot of spotify content has been and it IS good
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Oh I dont know. Ive just read the Wikipedia page and it still bores me. Even with the patents down I cant see the interest in an obsolete format

    I skipped the earlier days of i pod style mp3 players and was still listening to a portable minidisc player (lossy in its own way but a reasonable sound for portable use). I came to i tunes just as they were changing from 128kbps to 256 but still dont think 256 is good enough for my download money. I use apple lossless when when ripping my cd collection to computer.

    I sat on the train one day with a big pile of minidiscs and thought this is ridiculous so I bought a phone that could doubletwist app my I tunes files on to it. Its a cheap phone so I wonder if that is outputing in an mp3 style format. With a FiiO E6 amplifier and Sennheisers it sounds entertaining enough if not hi fi quality.

    I find it hard to care about all these digital formats and will just pick up on laymans terms like lossless. I would like it simple and standardised so I can just get on with listening to music.

    Cheers
    Martin

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