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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder5 View Post
    I use this should be quite an improvement for little outlay, I buy bare cable and put plugs on

    https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/...speaker-cable/

    All copper is not equal, cables definitely make a difference.

    The above is silver coated copper IIRC. A steal at this price.
    That is what I use, as well as Van Damme Blue 4mm2 and Van Damme 6mm2 (with the clear insulation).

    I can't say I notice any difference between them (or indeed QED 79-strand), but then my speaker cables are < 1 metre in length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LC1979 View Post
    Looking at a cross section of the fisual cable it seems that, for quite a bulky cable, it is all plastic filler and insulation and very little metal!

    My understanding was that thickness of your cable is crucial (ooh er)?

    Still tempted to go for some 4mm VD blue. No heavy current in my system.
    Ye it is a bit like that but from what im hearing it's a lot better than the unbranded OFC stuff i had before which was 4mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    That is what I use, as well as Van Damme Blue 4mm2 and Van Damme 6mm2 (with the clear insulation).

    I can't say I notice any difference between them (or indeed QED 79-strand), but then my speaker cables are < 1 metre in length.
    Mine a 3m per channel which isnt ideal but the Fisual are very nice.


    The OP is welcome to come and have a listen ? Don't know where he is in the world though lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Ye it is a bit like that but from what im hearing it's a lot better than the unbranded OFC stuff i had before which was 4mm.

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    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12AWG-SILV...item463a9d97aa

    Last ones used this.. its very good doubled up so 4 wires per side twisted and taped, not too tightly, then braided and plugs of choice. Got another one in mind and hope to have them done in a few months. Awaiting stock of this new cable
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    Quote Originally Posted by LC1979 View Post
    I find the issue of cables daunting, but best thing to do is try it and see!
    For £1.69 a meter it's a no brainier in my eyes which is why i took a punt. I'm listening now and the detail is amazing. Very balanced sound for about £10 it's doing a great job lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12AWG-SILV...item463a9d97aa

    Last ones used this.. its very good doubled up so 4 wires per side twisted and taped, not too tightly, then braided and plugs of choice. Got another one in mind and hope to have them done in a few months. Awaiting stock of this new cable
    12AWG wire has a cross section area of 3.31mm2, doubling up the cable will provide an ample 6.6mm2.

    I have, in the past, done similar using QED 79-strand cable (2.5mm2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    12AWG wire has a cross section area of 3.31mm2, doubling up the cable will provide 6.6mm2.
    Yup, well maybe less than that...thats my current stuff and been using it for some time. Nothing has beat it so far. Going to try another different one just for fun. Its not silly expensive and keeps me busy.
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    Have you tried using 15mm plumbing tubing, squashing the ends flat to go on the speaker terminals/

    Good re skin effect, and you can upgrade to 22 or even 28mm tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    Have you tried using 15mm plumbing tubing, squashing the ends flat to go on the speaker terminals/

    Good re skin effect, and you can upgrade to 22 or even 28mm tubing.
    Not sure what you mean there. Do you have a photo?
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