Decca curse?

[Haselsh1]

I had the chance to hear one decades ago on a heavily damped unipivot and it sounded bloody amazing.

[karma67]

You have two elements that "take no prisoners" - the Decca and the Yamahas.
I know as I have both!
However the Rock should be a bonus. Have you tried adding mass to the the Alphason, or adjusting the amount of damping?
Admittedly I use an OL modded RB300 and a retipped Decca Blue but records that sound poor with the Decca also sound poor with my other cartridges.
Experimenting could be worth trying.

hi, yes ive tried 20,000 cs and 30,000 cs damping fluid,the original 12,500 sounds the best to me,more open and airy.
i already have mass at the headshell due to the damping paddle for the rock.
i dont think anythings a miss,i just think the decca is showing up bad/worn pressing as any great cartridge would do.

[Bigman80]

hi, yes ive tried 20,000 cs and 30,000 cs damping fluid,the original 12,500 sounds the best to me,more open and airy.
i already have mass at the headshell due to the damping paddle for the rock.
i dont think anythings a miss,i just think the decca is showing up bad/worn pressing as any great cartridge would do.

Daft question, Jamie. I know you're having a listen to my cables currently. Are they in your system now?

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[karma67]

they are indeed

[Bigman80]

they are indeed

Do you think they are contributing to the "exposing" of the bad recording? They are very revealing in my system. I can tell if I take them out. Might be worth a try to put the Klotz back in. See what happens.

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[karma67]

no mate,ive only been using them through the cd

[Bigman80]

no mate,ive only been using them through the cd

Ah, fair enough.

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[StuN]

"hi, yes ive tried 20,000 cs and 30,000 cs damping fluid,the original 12,500 sounds the best to me,more open and airy.
i already have mass at the headshell due to the damping paddle for the rock.
i dont think anythings a miss,i just think the decca is showing up bad/worn pressing as any great cartridge would do."

It certainly does that Jamie, and I know you have the paddle and that helps, but that assembly (if it is the original) weighs less than 3 grams which is very little if you are trying to raise the effective mass towards that of a medium or high mass arm which suits the Decca best. For the rebodied Blue, I add about 10gm at the headshell.

[karma67]

hi stuart,i did try adding mass a while ago but it seemed to make it sound dull,dont forget my decca c4e weighs 13g,i dont know what the blue weighs,i suspect a lot lighter.
my tonearms Effective mass is 11g.

[topoxforddoc]

Jamie,

The tin box Deccas weigh 6.7 g, so a lot lighter than the C4E. I always put a small blob of blutak between the top of the asking and the headshell to damp some of the resonance in the tin box. It has to be a small blob, otherwise the blutak separates the cartage from the red plastic mount.

Charlie